2nd Amendment

SageDave comments on Apr 1, 2018:

The problem with the Second Amendment is the lack of gramatical consistancy in 1789 and the placement of a comma where many blieve ther should have been a semi-colon. It is not th citizens' right to bear arms but that f a civilian militia, today the National Guard. The other problem is that the ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 5, 2018:

@Yakoi: I think you have a great opinion!

Makes me sick. This is going to continue until more people react to it.

Lancer comments on Apr 5, 2018:

When everyone gets all emotional about the death of 1 girraffe when hundreds of other animals and people die every day in much cruler ways... I guess that's it them. @Trajan61

Trajan61 replies on Apr 5, 2018:

The liberals would like to ban all hunting as they just can’t accept it. Personally I think hunting’s fine but I just can’t get to excited about shooting a giraffe.

Quite a few of the radical gun control people are calling for a repeal of the 2nd amendment but it ...

josh_is_exciting comments on Apr 1, 2018:

To repeal or amend takes 2/3's of the House and Senate and 3/4 of all the state legislatures. Not. Gonna. Happen. Next topic please.

Trajan61 replies on Apr 3, 2018:

I agree it can never happen but it greatly concerns me that many liberal judges do not recognize the 2nd amendment as giving private citizens the right to own firearms. That is the route the liberals would go to strip law abiding gun owners of their right to own firearms. If Hillary Clinton had won the liberals would be well on there way to undermining the 2nd amendment as the liberals on the US Supreme Court would have a 5-4 majority and they don’t recognize the 2nd amendment as giving private citizens any rights.

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NerdIsTheWord comments on Apr 1, 2018:

I reject repeal on the basis of ineffectiveness.guns proliferate the United States to a degree far too extreme to warrant buybacks or bans. I do believe the 2nd needs some amending though. It's too broadly worded and guns need to be redefined as a privilege as opposed to a guaranteed right. Better ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 3, 2018:

@NFAguy53 If the liberals would study a little history maybe we wouldn’t have so many problems as there’s never in history been a very successful socialist society.

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GodlessBeth comments on Apr 1, 2018:

This amendment is problematic and antiquated. Background checks should be mandatory, training on the use of weapons and licensing should be mandatory, and absolutely no military grade weapons should be in the hands of citizens. Furthermore, there shouldn’t be anyone with a violent criminal record...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 3, 2018:

@NFAguy53 I have no problem with that as long as the purchase record records stay with the local dealers. My son is a gun dealer also. I’m afraid it wouldn’t solve that many problems as the criminals often use stolen guns. I am opposed to a federal database though as that is the first step in gun confiscation.

Quite a few of the radical gun control people are calling for a repeal of the 2nd amendment but it ...

Lancer comments on Apr 1, 2018:

As long as American's remain of good moral courage, the 2nd Amendment will remain. But I fear in the future there may very well be more and more liberals in government who will vote for disarmament. That'll be a sad day in history if it ever comes to pass.

Trajan61 replies on Apr 3, 2018:

I think that might be a long ways in the future. I’m more concerned with liberal judges who don’t believe the 2nd amendment gives law abiding citizens the right to own firearms. If we hadn’t elected Trump who appointed Gorsuch that would already be happening as before his appointment there were 4 judges on the US Supreme Court who didn’t recognize it as giving private citizens the right to own arms and 4 who did. With Gorsuch appointment the pro 2nd amendment side should have a 5-4 majority.

Quite a few of the radical gun control people are calling for a repeal of the 2nd amendment but it ...

DUCHESSA comments on Apr 3, 2018:

I was watching "Death Wish 2" last night; the scene that keeps popping up is the one where the police removes a gun from an older couple stating that's illegal to own one. The old man tells the cops they have the gun for protection....but the cops ignore him. Few minutes after the cops left...and ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 3, 2018:

That’s what happens when law abiding gun owners are disarmed.

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PhoebeCat comments on Apr 2, 2018:

No, that's a simplistic attempt to address a complex societal problem.

Trajan61 replies on Apr 3, 2018:

It’s disturbing to me that some liberal judges including most of those appointed by Clinton and Obama don’t think the 2nd amendment gives private citizens the right to have a firearm!

Yay!!! I hope there is a domino effect from Maryland.

Lancer comments on Apr 2, 2018:

The disarmament has begun. I won't be surprised when the taxes go up, the crime gets worse, the ethnic gangs start growing and the economy starts plummeting. The US still has century or two before complete disarmament and the countdown has begun. Thanks for following in the footsteps of us other ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 3, 2018:

Good point. The liberals don’t want to allow private citizens the right of self defence. Hell most of the liberals are adamantly against concealed carry of loaded firearms even though there have been virtually no problems with concealed carry holders.

What is the status of the so called Obamacare now?

NFAguy53 comments on Apr 2, 2018:

It was supposed to be affordable health care for all. Premiums are more than the penalty for NOT having it. At least what I hear. Two flaws with it. You cannot force someone to buy what they don't want. They told the people they had to vote it in to see what was in it. A sham/scam from the get go. ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 2, 2018:

Well spoken. You and I are in total agreement on a lot of things!

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Indy comments on Apr 2, 2018:

The second ammendment, like other aging laws has been lost in the madness of our modern society.I believe it unfortuantely is necessary. Mainly because I am a responsible gun owner. That being said I would gladly vote for repeal. I value my children and my neighbors children more than I value ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 2, 2018:

The US along with a few other countries like the Cezch republic and Switzerland are one of the few countries where you are allowed to have a firearm for self defence. In most of the others your at the mercy of the criminals. I’ll take the US over the others any day. The second amendment could never be repealed anyway. But there is the danger that the appointment of liberal judges could undermine the second amendment. You go ahead and give your guns to the government. I plan on keeping mine come hell or high water. @Lancer

This is what we're up against folks.

LEPeff comments on Apr 1, 2018:

So when people say stupid shit everyone should lose their right to free speech? If we want to make sure kids are safe we should outlaw cars and cell phones and prescription meds and fast foods and and and...bullshit! Let's try to look at the facts and use logic. There is less gun violence now than ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

The liberals are using the school shootings to further their liberal agenda. They aren’t interested in facts or logic!

I agree that marijuana should be legal both recreational and medicinal nationwide but we need to ...

EdEarl comments on Apr 1, 2018:

If you mean putting them in prison, you'll merely exacerbate the problem. A druggie cannot face living without their drugs. When you put them in prison, life becomes more difficult for them, plus they get a first rate education from other convicts on how to commit additional crimes. The war on drugs...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

@EdEarl That’s because we’ve never got serious about percecuting career drug dealers and taking them out of circulation.

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SageDave comments on Apr 1, 2018:

The problem with the Second Amendment is the lack of gramatical consistancy in 1789 and the placement of a comma where many blieve ther should have been a semi-colon. It is not th citizens' right to bear arms but that f a civilian militia, today the National Guard. The other problem is that the ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

What about the attempt by the liberals to circumvent the people by liberal judicial appointee’s who uphold laws by cities prohibiting people from having a gun in their own home or laws prohibiting law abiding citizens from carrying a loaded firearm? Seems to me if you can’t have a gun in your own home that should be considered total confiscation. I think your the one who doesn’t get it! @ Lancer, @NFAguy53, @Yakoi

I agree that marijuana should be legal both recreational and medicinal nationwide but we need to ...

EdEarl comments on Apr 1, 2018:

If you mean putting them in prison, you'll merely exacerbate the problem. A druggie cannot face living without their drugs. When you put them in prison, life becomes more difficult for them, plus they get a first rate education from other convicts on how to commit additional crimes. The war on drugs...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

Repeat offending drug dealers should be executed rather than imprisoned.

Does anyone here have a butterfly garden?

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2018:

I have 4 acres here in Wisconsin that is devoted to the native species found here. Plant natives & they will come. Asclepias is sacred & Joe Pie Weed is a favorite with swallowtails. The chicken dung brings in the red spotted purples. So rewarding.

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

I don’t have one myself but I have a good friend who has one and it is quite spectacular. He’s also an avid bird watcher and has many bird house’s around his house.

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SageDave comments on Apr 1, 2018:

The problem with the Second Amendment is the lack of gramatical consistancy in 1789 and the placement of a comma where many blieve ther should have been a semi-colon. It is not th citizens' right to bear arms but that f a civilian militia, today the National Guard. The other problem is that the ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

It seems ludricous that the government would need an amendment for allowing them the right to bear arms so the only valid conclusion is that it should be applied to the ordinary citizen. @Duchessa

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SageDave comments on Apr 1, 2018:

The problem with the Second Amendment is the lack of gramatical consistancy in 1789 and the placement of a comma where many blieve ther should have been a semi-colon. It is not th citizens' right to bear arms but that f a civilian militia, today the National Guard. The other problem is that the ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

If it weren’t for the NRA we would have lost our rights to own firearms long ago, especially self defence weapons as most liberals don’t believe in the right of the people to possess firearms for self defence. @NFAguy53

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NerdIsTheWord comments on Apr 1, 2018:

I reject repeal on the basis of ineffectiveness.guns proliferate the United States to a degree far too extreme to warrant buybacks or bans. I do believe the 2nd needs some amending though. It's too broadly worded and guns need to be redefined as a privilege as opposed to a guaranteed right. Better ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

If we allow the government to determine what weapons we will have for self defence especially with people like Obama and Clinton we will be swiftly disarmed and won’t even have any guns available for self defence. Lacking the ability to disarm people by a vote of the people they intended to circumvent the 2nd amendment by appointing liberal judges that interpreted it like they want. @Lancer

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GodlessBeth comments on Apr 1, 2018:

This amendment is problematic and antiquated. Background checks should be mandatory, training on the use of weapons and licensing should be mandatory, and absolutely no military grade weapons should be in the hands of citizens. Furthermore, there shouldn’t be anyone with a violent criminal record...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

Military grade weapons are already banned. The AR-15 rifle is a semi automatic unlike it military counterpart which is a full auto.

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GodlessBeth comments on Apr 1, 2018:

This amendment is problematic and antiquated. Background checks should be mandatory, training on the use of weapons and licensing should be mandatory, and absolutely no military grade weapons should be in the hands of citizens. Furthermore, there shouldn’t be anyone with a violent criminal record...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

Background checks are already manditory and it’s already illegal for a criminal to posses a gun. If we allow the government to determine which weapons we should have for self defence we will quickly be completely disarmed and loose our right to have a gun for self defence. @Lancer

Quite a few of the radical gun control people are calling for a repeal of the 2nd amendment but it ...

DUCHESSA comments on Apr 1, 2018:

Poorly written? Out of time? May be....but re-writing it wouldn't the proper thing to do?

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

Yes it probably does but that would be extremely hard to do. The biggest threat to it is liberal judicial apointee’s interpreting it wrong.

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Druvius comments on Apr 1, 2018:

The Second Amendment isn't the problem. And since we can't even get basic common sense gun control enacted, the chances of ammending the Constitution are zip. Basically claiming the Second Amendment is under threat is one of the many ways the NRA rallies its supporters, since it doesn't have any ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

A lot of the liberals are a threat as there are a lot of the don’t think it gives private citizens the right to bear arms. There are 4 judges on the US Supreme Court who believe that way. A lot of the liberal gun control people, especially people like Obama and Clinton were intent on undermining the 2nd amendment with liberal appointments to the court.

Quite a few of the radical gun control people are calling for a repeal of the 2nd amendment but it ...

DUCHESSA comments on Apr 1, 2018:

Poorly written? Out of time? May be....but re-writing it wouldn't the proper thing to do?

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

I think it’s written ok. Some people just want to interpret it the wrong way like the 4 liberal judges on the US Supreme Court.

Quite a few of the radical gun control people are calling for a repeal of the 2nd amendment but it ...

Mooolah comments on Apr 1, 2018:

If we can not control the mentally unstable's access to fire arms, we will continue to see mass killings. Even criminals do not engage in such behavior with any degree of frequency. It seems to always be the deranged. Must we look inside the brain with a fMRI before purchase is approved? How can we ...

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

Pretty hard to keep the crazies from getting firearms without infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens.

Quick question, is it relatively safe to travel around rural parts of the USA?

Trajan61 comments on Apr 1, 2018:

Sure rural USA is very safe. Hell most of the shootings occur in big cities as that’s where most of the gangs and druggies are. Most of the shootings that have occurred in the rural US have been a few accidental ones or suicides from people who were terminally ill with cancer or something.

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

Keep in mind that if your allowed to have something there will always be someone who misuses it. Myself I feel safer here in the US because I’m allowed to carry a loaded gun for protection. In other countries I’m not allowed to have a gun.

When people say Australia has no gun crime.

Trajan61 comments on Mar 31, 2018:

That’s the way it is when the government takes guns away from law abiding citizens. The liberals always count suicides when they give shooting statistics which shouldn’t be the case as everyone should have a right to end their lives if they want.

Trajan61 replies on Apr 1, 2018:

@Lancer diabhal is obviously a crazy liberal idiot. Just ignore the smuck!

Do liberals tend to be more tolerant, open, and thoughtful or are they often just as intolerant, ...

Trajan61 comments on Mar 31, 2018:

The liberals are idiots especially when it comes to bashing Trump and gun control. They seem to be on a road to ruin this country.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 31, 2018:

@Huge You sir are the radical one. There’s so much name calling and cursing among the liberals especially when it comes to Trump or gun control it’s pathetic. And you call me hateful??

When people say Australia has no gun crime.

Trajan61 comments on Mar 31, 2018:

That’s the way it is when the government takes guns away from law abiding citizens. The liberals always count suicides when they give shooting statistics which shouldn’t be the case as everyone should have a right to end their lives if they want.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 31, 2018:

@diabhal You sir are very radical and would be considered a social outcast here in Western Oklahoma.

Atheist and humanist organizations move forward in prioritizing left-leaning political views above ...

Trajan61 comments on Mar 28, 2018:

I don’t think you can. Hell the liberals are a greater threat to our way of life than the Christain’s!

Trajan61 replies on Mar 30, 2018:

@Captain_Feelgood I agree with you.

Former Supreme Court Justice Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment I don’t believe it need ...

Trajan61 comments on Mar 28, 2018:

Thomas Jefferson also believed we might need our guns to fight a tyrant in Government like that leftist arrogant idiot Obama!!

Trajan61 replies on Mar 30, 2018:

@TerriCity I’m afraid if you can’t figure that one out your are a hopeless cause lady.

Being on this website has made me realize that the liberal Trump bashing, gun grabbing idiots on the...

jperlow comments on Mar 29, 2018:

Depends. Both sides have very intolerant people. And as a libertarian I find Trump as an anathema to rational thought and discourse. No rational republican I know respects or supports him. That has nothing to do with support for 2A or any other hot button issues with the left. He can’t even keep ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 29, 2018:

Trump’s a damn sight better than the Bush’s and a hell of a lot better than Obama. We need term limits so we can get rid of a bunch of those establishment people in Washington like Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell and Ryan and a host of others.

Does the ends justify the means?

Markus comments on Mar 27, 2018:

Islamic doctrine encourages it ”TAQIYYA”. That’s why we should totally buy the line that Islam is a religion of peace and Iran has no plans to develop their Armageddon weapon. Their nuke capabilities are only for peaceful purposes.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 29, 2018:

I know your being saracastic. One of the stupidest things Obama did was that idiotic deal he made with Iran.

I've learned to appreciate the Christians I know more so after joining this community.

buck1977 comments on Mar 28, 2018:

If the GOP would abandon their absurd religious platform, they would win every election for the rest of eternity. Leftism is a disease

Trajan61 replies on Mar 28, 2018:

I’m afraid they need the Christain’s help to overcome the liberals and I think Trump knows this.

A few memes

JackPedigo comments on Mar 25, 2018:

That first one is why I changed my yard sign from NRA members not welcome to NRA cowards not welcome. When I get it laminated and moved from the driveway to the street I will post it.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 28, 2018:

I’m going to post a sign that liberals and gun control nuts are not welcome. Hell you people are a bigger threat to our way of life than the Christain’s!!

Jim Attends March For Our Lives in San Diego - The Jim Jefferies Show - Uncensored [youtube.com]

Lancer comments on Mar 28, 2018:

Haha wow. "A good guy with a gun isn't what stops a bad guy with a gun". Fair point, those sheriffs deputies didn't do anything. The police didn't do anything. The FBI didn't do anything. I recommend all of them relinquish their guns. That way people will be safer. @Trajan61

Trajan61 replies on Mar 28, 2018:

Good point. They didn’t do there job. What do they need with the tools of their job if they don’t do it?

Former Supreme Court Justice Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment I don’t believe it need ...

wordywalt comments on Mar 27, 2018:

Jefferspn also said, "The earth belongs to the living, not the dead." Scalia's judicial philosophy of "original intent"-- the we should always go by what the original intent of the founding fathers was, as expressed in the Constitution was nothing short and stultifying. And Gorsuch believes in ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 28, 2018:

Thankfully Hillary didn’t win so we have good judges like Gorsuch and not liberal idiots like Alena Kegan and Sonia Sonimeyer who were appointed by that idiot Obama and were likely intent on undermining the 2nd amendment.

Former Supreme Court Justice Stevens: Repeal the Second Amendment I don’t believe it need ...

GipsyOfNewSpain comments on Mar 27, 2018:

Do Not Be Afraid of What's Has To Be Done... Dont, nra is counting on you to react like that... Dont! ...FUCK the 2nd ammendment!

Trajan61 replies on Mar 28, 2018:

You sir are very radical as it would take a civil war to do away with the 2nd amendment!

Here's a good one, Remington has filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Lancer comments on Mar 27, 2018:

Yay, hooray for hundreds of people losing their jobs and livelihoods. Hooray for their kids who can no longer go to good schools. Also this only happened because everyone thought Hillary was going to win. Too bad America knew better than to trust a deceitful narcissistic back stabbing hag like ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 28, 2018:

Remington went broke because of a combination of lawsuits arising from the Sandy Hook shootings and declining gun sales as gun owners weren’t afraid of Trump like they were of Hillary and for good reason as she was intent on undermining the 2nd amendment through liberal appointments to the US Supreme Court. Hillary would have been a terrible president but you’d be hard hard pressed to convince the leftist liberals on this website of that.

MARCH FOR LIFE.

Trajan61 comments on Mar 27, 2018:

This March for our lives crap is just another ploy by the liberals to strip the rights of law abiding gun owners away. Unfortunately there’s always going to be idiots who abuse guns just as there is who abuse cars and other things. The problem with the schools is they are gun free zones. If we ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 27, 2018:

@DUCHESSA Most of the schools in my area can’t afford to hire security guards so I think in that case arming a few well qualified teachers is the only solution. In Florida the officers didn’t even go inside to try to stop the shooter.

MARCH FOR LIFE.

MikeFlora comments on Mar 27, 2018:

Lady I was there, marching with about 10 to fifteen thousand people in Columbus OH(host Gun Control Now). The only weapons all of us are talking about banning are weapons that should never been on the street to begin with, decent people don't need assault weapons to defend themselves. I doubt 15 ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 27, 2018:

You don’t even believe the 2nd amendment gives private citizens the right to have guns. You know as well as I do the liberals will never be satisfied with taking away the AR-15 rifles. Besides the AR-15 rifles are used in less than 1% of all crimes. The problem in the schools is that they are often an unsecured gun free zone. Until they fix it so someone’s is able to shoot back the problem will continue. All they have to do is arm a few well qualified teachers and it will get a lot better.

'Outright Act of Terror' – White South Africans Protest Farm Murders, 74 Killed in 2017 So Far

Lancer comments on Mar 26, 2018:

I wonder how long until the left start deleting articles like this? They already hid the Australian mass shootings. Now they're going after guns, I bet racism and "racist" articles are next. The UK police already have 30+ "hate crimes departments" in different counties, you can now be ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 26, 2018:

The left always wants to silence those who disagree with them. Obama was notorious for that. It was his way or the highway. Hell the liberals think people who own guns are criminals. The liberals would be lost here in Oklahoma as there aren’t that many of them. Hell I don’t even know any of my friends who don’t own guns!

"Counter protesters" show up heavily armed to confront unarmed and peaceful protesters - mostly ...

Lancer comments on Mar 25, 2018:

Good to see that responsible gun owners DIDN'T shoot at students and WEREN'T responsible for mass murder like the left claims they are. But wait, that doesn't fit the anti-gun narrative... I guess we should just insult them, that way we can make them the bad guys. @Trajan61

Trajan61 replies on Mar 26, 2018:

Yes the criminals will always find a way to get them. The gun is just a tool. Without that tool we will always be at the mercy of the criminals. Hell Mike Flora doesn’t even believe the 2nd amendment gives private citizens the right to own guns so therefore he doesn’t even belief we have a right to defend ourselves.

Yesterday was beyond words.

Lancer comments on Mar 25, 2018:

The reason there were no "counter protestors" is because that's a left wing scare tactic. Most right wing or conservatives don't engage in scare tactics. Because we value freedom of speech, even if we disagree with the other people are saying. We're just decent people.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 26, 2018:

They’re not going to get anything done anyway, at least not as long as Trump is president. The conservatives will win seats in the senate this fall as there are 20 democrats up for re-election this fall, many of them in states that Trump carried handily and only 10 republicans up for re-election.

Yesterday was beyond words.

Lancer comments on Mar 25, 2018:

The reason there were no "counter protestors" is because that's a left wing scare tactic. Most right wing or conservatives don't engage in scare tactics. Because we value freedom of speech, even if we disagree with the other people are saying. We're just decent people.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 26, 2018:

Lancer the liberals are obcessed with gun control. We conservatives might as well ignore the smucks as they are just as obcessed with gun control as the religious nuts are with religion.

Being on this website has made me realize that the liberal Trump bashing, gun grabbing idiots on the...

AltWhite comments on Mar 25, 2018:

Progressives are a cancer and a plague to a healthy, modern society. Being an agnostic conservative is rare it seems.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 25, 2018:

They seem to be very rare except on this particular group. Most of them on the main group are Obama loving left wing Trump bashing liberals.

Milwaukee Police Chief Tears Apart NRA-Backed Concealed Carry Law

Dick_Martin comments on Feb 18, 2018:

What I am seeing, not sure if it is true, is that gun ownership among Americans is not a majority; in fact, far from it. That the number of guns per gun owner has grown to ludicrous levels. Most interestingly to me though is that the gun manufacturers are are in dire straights because gun sales ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 25, 2018:

All my friends have multiple guns. The reason gun sales are off is because Obama scared the shit out of people and he’s no longer in office.

National concealed carry reciprocity

Knitfreak comments on Jan 15, 2018:

You can't talk sense with a gun nut. They would have you buying more guns and carrying them at the mall. As long as we have this many weapons and the gun nuts running amok, we will have more violence. They are too stupid to see the correlation between the increase in ownership and the increase in ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 25, 2018:

You need to look at the Australian stats on gun control again. Before 1996 when the Australians disarmed law abiding citizens burglaries were relatively low. By 2006 10 years after the seizure of the guns the burglary rate was among the highest in the world!

So I'm watching the news this morning regarding the Texas church massacre and the fella that killed ...

JohnGlass comments on Dec 3, 2017:

Religion and guns. America would be better without both.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 25, 2018:

So your one of those who thinks the government should have all the guns? If you studied your history you’d realize that governments have killed far more people than private citizens!

3 main religions

Alexa comments on Dec 8, 2017:

Islam,Judaism and Christianity are the worst among all religions, in my opinion. Full of violence and very men dominated. I really don't understand how a women could follow any of these.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 24, 2018:

Especially Islam!

Message to the objective realist: I know people who think the world is 6000 years old, and they ...

gater comments on Mar 24, 2018:

My brother has a Phd and thinks the earth is 6000 years old, because some Bible scolars say that. My argument - if you need accurate information about any topic - ask an expert in the field. Dont ask a Bible scolar the age of the earth - ask an archaeologist.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 24, 2018:

Is his PHD in Theology?

Congress has approved 700 billion for defense and only about 1 billion for the wall - It seems the ...

Hicks66 comments on Mar 24, 2018:

You think conversations like this were made during the construction of the Maginot Line?

Trajan61 replies on Mar 24, 2018:

The Maginot line was constructed to stop armies but was easily defeated by the Germans. The so called wall between the US and Mexico is intended to stop illegal immigrants, big difference and a lot less expensive. If the US is going to stop or slow illegal immigration we’re going to have to secure the southern US border or were just going to continue to be the pop off relief valve for Mexico’s overpopulation problem.

Find it somewhat amusing that we have gun supporters who have joined this group ( you know who you ...

Lancer comments on Mar 17, 2018:

Chill mate. We are all human. When the Nazi party were gaining the majority of supporters and a few people rejected it, they were beaten down into submission and silenced. Then you know the rest. Just because the majority of people agree with something doesn't mean it is the right call. ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 21, 2018:

Diabhal is a radical leftist. Just ignore the smuck.

Find it somewhat amusing that we have gun supporters who have joined this group ( you know who you ...

MikeFlora comments on Mar 17, 2018:

Any body is welcome here as long as they are civil. The problem is they tend to attack hard and twist things to suit their needs. The worst part is they don't want to give up one bullet. As a rule they refuse to compromise in any way what so ever, and make it sound like we want to get rid of all ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 19, 2018:

Five judges on the US Supreme Court don’t agree with your interpretation and neither do I. @jayneonacob

American Atheist Convention 2018

Trajan61 comments on Mar 8, 2018:

I enjoy conversing with fellow atheists. There’s just one problem. Most of them are ultra liberal Trump bashing, Obama loving nuts. I used to belong to American Atheist but when they attacked Romney’s Mormonism during the 2012 election but failed to mention Obama’s association with the radical...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 19, 2018:

@Highway-Starr Obama went to church with Jeramiah Wright for years before he ran for president. Just because he distanced himself from him during the 2008 race doesn’t change anything because Romney would have been a lot better choice as president than that idiot Obama in spite of his Mormonism.

I just found this.

Trajan61 comments on Mar 17, 2018:

Hell mass shootings here in the US are well publicized by the liberal media but your chances of being shot by a mass shooter here are less than being struck by lightning. Why should we penalize law abiding gun owners just because a few idiots are abusing guns?

Trajan61 replies on Mar 19, 2018:

@Lancer That’s exactly the way the liberals think. Give those idiots a ban on semi auto rifles and the handguns can’t be far behind as most crimes are committed with them anyway. They just don’t believe in the right for self defense!

Find it somewhat amusing that we have gun supporters who have joined this group ( you know who you ...

MikeFlora comments on Mar 17, 2018:

Any body is welcome here as long as they are civil. The problem is they tend to attack hard and twist things to suit their needs. The worst part is they don't want to give up one bullet. As a rule they refuse to compromise in any way what so ever, and make it sound like we want to get rid of all ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 19, 2018:

If it weren’t for the NRA we would have lost our 2nd amendment rights long ago. Hell we already have 4 judges on the US Supreme Court who do not believe the 2nd amendment gives ordinary citizens the right to own firearms.

Find it somewhat amusing that we have gun supporters who have joined this group ( you know who you ...

Lancer comments on Mar 17, 2018:

Chill mate. We are all human. When the Nazi party were gaining the majority of supporters and a few people rejected it, they were beaten down into submission and silenced. Then you know the rest. Just because the majority of people agree with something doesn't mean it is the right call. ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 18, 2018:

You are one of the few sensible ones in this group. The people here never consider the fact that the chances of being shot by a mass shooter here in the US are very very small and that less than 1% of crimes are committed by semi auto rifles. Also we have to remember that in the UK and Australia you don’t have a right to defend yourself against a criminal who breaks into your house with a gun and therefore are more likely to be a victim whereas here in the US you do have that right. Also here in the US most states allow concealed carry of a loaded weapon for self defense so you have a lot more rights when it comes to self defense.

I just found this.

Trajan61 comments on Mar 17, 2018:

Hell mass shootings here in the US are well publicized by the liberal media but your chances of being shot by a mass shooter here are less than being struck by lightning. Why should we penalize law abiding gun owners just because a few idiots are abusing guns?

Trajan61 replies on Mar 18, 2018:

@Darthpug Semiautomatic rifles are used in less than 1% of all crimes. Besides do you really think the liberals are going to be satisfied with just banning semiautomatic rifles. They’ll never be satisfied till they’ve banned all guns. The only answer to mass shooting is to do away with unsecured gun free zones as they are a soft target and only make mass shootings more likely. How many children are going to have to die before the liberals are agreeable to something sensible.

I just found this.

Trajan61 comments on Mar 17, 2018:

Hell mass shootings here in the US are well publicized by the liberal media but your chances of being shot by a mass shooter here are less than being struck by lightning. Why should we penalize law abiding gun owners just because a few idiots are abusing guns?

Trajan61 replies on Mar 18, 2018:

@Darthpug Even if what you say Is true 208 fatalities out of over 300 million is very very few.

What kind of car would you own if money was not an object?

Trajan61 comments on Mar 17, 2018:

I loved the old Dodge Chargers when I was young even though I never own one. Today my pick would be the Dodge Chalenger.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 17, 2018:

@Leutrelle I really loved the General Lee Charger on the Dukes of Hazeard. That would be a 69.

CDC Scientists Plea to Congress: Let Us Research Gun Violence

Lewellyn3 comments on Feb 19, 2018:

@ Jack Pedigo....Yes, I've read about what you're talking about. Google "politicians getting money from NRA." That's what make me FURIOUS. Our representatives were elected to work for what WE want, not what some corporation or private organization wants. Bribing our representatives should be ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 13, 2018:

Well said! You are one of the few sensible ones on the website in spite of your religious beliefs! You might want to join us on our conservative atheist group on this website.

What kind of gun control do you think we Need?

Lancer comments on Mar 13, 2018:

Since I'm not an American Citizen, my opinion in this is basically irrelevant. But theoretically in a free society, I'd be in favor of raising the age to buy a semi-automatic rifle to 25-30, IF there was sufficient evidence to support the claim that this would reduce gun violence, so test it and...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 13, 2018:

Here in Oklahoma it cost 180 dollars for a concealed carry permit and it good for 10 years and it’s also good for whatever gun you choose to carry loaded. It’s also good for open carry if you choose to do that. It’s also good for multiple guns all loaded.

Did you enjoy Trumps speech?

Trajan61 comments on Mar 11, 2018:

Yes I enjoy Trumps speeches but some of the derogatory comments posted on the main forum about him of this website are radical and disgusting!

Trajan61 replies on Mar 12, 2018:

@gater Maxine Water’s is a liberal idiot!!!!

Does it ever bother you that there are over twice as many people in the liberal Trump bashing ...

alanalorie comments on Mar 11, 2018:

No, what upsets me is when people cannot have a decent and respectful conversation with the opposite side sometimes. Some people treat others like trash based on if they are a Dem or Conservative. I do not accept your numbers stated unless you have went through all the posts and tallied. Bashing ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 11, 2018:

There are sure a lot of Trump bashers on this website even though he’s a far batter president than that idiot Obama! A lot of the liberals seem to be obcessed with getting rid of Trump.

Does it ever bother you that there are over twice as many people in the liberal Trump bashing ...

richiegtt comments on Mar 10, 2018:

Yes,I never realized I was in the minority ,and not a part of these pathetic libertard Trump bashers who spew more bile and hatred towards the President than they do to enemies of the United States.They are Hypocritical nut jobs

Trajan61 replies on Mar 11, 2018:

Here in Oklahoma the liberal nut jobs are the ones in the minority. Hell after 8 years of Obama people were so disgusted with the democrats Trump carried 87% here in my hometown!

Does it ever bother you that there are over twice as many people in the liberal Trump bashing ...

gater comments on Mar 10, 2018:

I came out for Trump a year before the election - IMO he is the best thing that has happened to this country since JFK. But if you say anything positive about him in Agnostic - you will be ridiculed. Its amazing to me the lack of respect some give to their president.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 11, 2018:

I was about ready to leave this radical liberal website till I found the conservatives on this group.

Does it ever bother you that there are over twice as many people in the liberal Trump bashing ...

gater comments on Mar 10, 2018:

I came out for Trump a year before the election - IMO he is the best thing that has happened to this country since JFK. But if you say anything positive about him in Agnostic - you will be ridiculed. Its amazing to me the lack of respect some give to their president.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 10, 2018:

I think you have that right. They’re just going along with the liberal media. They don’t care if the economy does good or not.

What calibers do you have in the AR?

Trajan61 comments on Mar 9, 2018:

I have it in . 308, 5.56, and a 9 mm with a bump stock.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 10, 2018:

@Yakoi I also have a Class lll full auto AK47.

Does it ever bother you that there are over twice as many people in the liberal Trump bashing ...

richiegtt comments on Mar 10, 2018:

Yes,I never realized I was in the minority ,and not a part of these pathetic libertard Trump bashers who spew more bile and hatred towards the President than they do to enemies of the United States.They are Hypocritical nut jobs

Trajan61 replies on Mar 10, 2018:

Yes a lot of the liberals are pathetic especially when they compare Trump to Hitler and Kim Jong Un.

Does it ever bother you that there are over twice as many people in the liberal Trump bashing ...

Lancer comments on Mar 10, 2018:

Everyone has the right to an opinion. Be they civilized or radicalized. As long as all they do is spout nonsense within their own group, I see no reason to provoke them... except for the fact that it's fun and entertaining. It doesn't really bother me, it just means that liberal indoctrination ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 10, 2018:

Maybe that’s already happening in America I hope.

Does it ever bother you that there are over twice as many people in the liberal Trump bashing ...

gater comments on Mar 10, 2018:

I came out for Trump a year before the election - IMO he is the best thing that has happened to this country since JFK. But if you say anything positive about him in Agnostic - you will be ridiculed. Its amazing to me the lack of respect some give to their president.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 10, 2018:

A lot of the liberals are just looking for a handout from the government so if they think somebodies going to disrupt that they go ballistic.

I used to be a member of American Atheist until they attacked Mitt Romney’s Mormonism during the ...

Rhetoric comments on Mar 5, 2018:

Interesting. I didn't like that election, either. But after the latest doozy, that one looks tame!

Trajan61 replies on Mar 8, 2018:

Trump is a lot better president than the one we’ve had for the last 8 years prior to him!

Watch your wallets and purses, there are gun nuts amongst the group.

Lancer comments on Mar 6, 2018:

I like how you decided to generate false propaganda, label, insult and generalize an entire group of people who are simply put, "law abiding citizens who exercise their individual rights". I'm not saying I'm smart. But if someone said "We need better gun laws and to do that we need more votes to...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 6, 2018:

Well said!

The 20 year old killed his mom to steal the gun.

Trajan61 comments on Mar 1, 2018:

Hell most guns used in crimes are stolen or black market guns.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 5, 2018:

@Besalbub What in the hell good is a personal defense gun if it’s unloaded and locked in a safe. If you teach your children about guns they will respect them. My children as I was also were brought up around guns and I never had any problems nor did I ever give anyone any problems. Hell I’ve never pointed a gun or threatened anyone with one in my lifetime but I’ve had liberals threatened to beat the crap out of me just because they knew I had guns.

I'll bet that 90% of members posting in this discussion have never held much less owned a firearm.

Lancer comments on Mar 4, 2018:

You know what's funny. By saying "Guns Kill" we are personifying the weapon, giving it human qualities. Since if we say "Guns kill" we could also say "Guns run" or "Guns hunt" since we have already applied the verb "killing" to the gun, why stop there? Reason, because if we used the correct ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 4, 2018:

Well said. Most of the liberals on this website seem to be obcessed with seizing the guns of law abiding citizens.

It what ways have you noticed the mentality and behaviors of liberals and Christians to be very ...

NFAguy53 comments on Mar 4, 2018:

I think it is the same as anything else. You have those that want to do certain things but don't want others to have the same rights. A Christian will vote a county dry and then drive out of the county to buy their alcohol. The newest trend seems to be liberal gun owners that are for gun ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 4, 2018:

They don’t realize that the ultimate aim of the liberals is total gun confiscation. If they did ban the AR’s and AK’s that would just be the beginning.

It what ways have you noticed the mentality and behaviors of liberals and Christians to be very ...

Trajan61 comments on Mar 4, 2018:

The liberal atheist are almost all left wing Trump haters. A lot of the Religous folks especially the Islamic ones hate anyone who doesn’t believe like they do so yes it’s seems both groups have a lot of hate in they’re heart.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 4, 2018:

@Buck1977 Yes I agree most Christain’s are more tolerant than the liberals except for a few of the extremist ones. Some of the muslims are very extreme.

Arming public school teachers.

buck1977 comments on Feb 22, 2018:

If you think taking guns from lawful gun owners is a solution to school shootings, you are insane...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 3, 2018:

Your one of the few sensible ones in this very liberal group.

The 20 year old killed his mom to steal the gun.

Trajan61 comments on Mar 1, 2018:

Hell most guns used in crimes are stolen or black market guns.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 3, 2018:

@Basalbub If they want them bad enough they can break into any safe.

How do you rate Trump's performance?

Trajan61 comments on Mar 3, 2018:

I think he’s done a great job so far. After 8 years of that left wing liberal idiot Obama people in my hometown were so disgusted with the democrats Trump got 87% of the vote and carried all 77 counties in my home state of Oklahoma.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 3, 2018:

@phxbillcee Airzona went for Trump also so you are in a minority in your own state.

How do you rate Trump's performance?

Trajan61 comments on Mar 3, 2018:

I think he’s done a great job so far. After 8 years of that left wing liberal idiot Obama people in my hometown were so disgusted with the democrats Trump got 87% of the vote and carried all 77 counties in my home state of Oklahoma.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 3, 2018:

@HippieChick58 And I’m yours!!!! Nebraska is a pretty strong GOP state so it won’t do you any good to vote!

How do you rate Trump's performance?

Trajan61 comments on Mar 3, 2018:

I think he’s done a great job so far. After 8 years of that left wing liberal idiot Obama people in my hometown were so disgusted with the democrats Trump got 87% of the vote and carried all 77 counties in my home state of Oklahoma.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 3, 2018:

@Seanbnbad Don’t count on it. I exspect the GOP to pick up seats in the senate as they’re are 20 Democrat incumbents up and only 10 GOP. I think they’ll hold there own in the house as well as there’s a lot of people like to have a job and don’t care for the tax and regulation nut democrats!

How do you rate Trump's performance?

Trajan61 comments on Mar 3, 2018:

I think he’s done a great job so far. After 8 years of that left wing liberal idiot Obama people in my hometown were so disgusted with the democrats Trump got 87% of the vote and carried all 77 counties in my home state of Oklahoma.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 3, 2018:

@BettyColeman Keep in mind Pennsylvania also went for Trump. So there must be some sensible people in that state as well.

How do you rate Trump's performance?

Trajan61 comments on Mar 3, 2018:

I think he’s done a great job so far. After 8 years of that left wing liberal idiot Obama people in my hometown were so disgusted with the democrats Trump got 87% of the vote and carried all 77 counties in my home state of Oklahoma.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 3, 2018:

@HippieChick58 The liberals Scare the hell out of me.

So, after doing some soul searching (Haha I know).

NFAguy53 comments on Mar 1, 2018:

My posts disappear though. Admin here is super lefty liberal.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 2, 2018:

I totally agree with that.

What does it mean to be a conservative atheist to you?

Yakoi comments on Mar 1, 2018:

Personally, I am libertarian, bordering on anarchist. I want the smallest government possible. I want people to leave me, and everyone else alone. Stop worrying about other people's uteruses, bedrooms, cars, homes, children. All of it. I think we should have a truly free market. I am a big ...

Trajan61 replies on Mar 1, 2018:

Well spoken. We are in complete agreement.

I am taking a stand for gun control. Send me your AR-15's to destroy like I did mine.

Lancer comments on Feb 27, 2018:

Hahahah wow. Anyone with half a brain could put that back together

Trajan61 replies on Mar 1, 2018:

I have the AK47 as well as 4 AR15’s and 1 AR10 and I think the AR’s are the better rifle as there easier to mount optics on and just a better overall rifle.

I am taking a stand for gun control. Send me your AR-15's to destroy like I did mine.

Trajan61 comments on Feb 28, 2018:

I’ll send it to you right away.

Trajan61 replies on Mar 1, 2018:

@NFAguu53 I was joking. I have 4 AR15’s and 1 AR10 and have taken them apart many times. I like the AR15’s better because it’s a lot easier to mount optics and I think it’s a better rifle.

What would it take to get rid of the electoral college?

silvereyes comments on Feb 28, 2018:

Politicians that represent the people... What would it take to get politicians that represent the people? True democracy. See the loop here?

Trajan61 replies on Mar 1, 2018:

You and I will have to disagree on that one as I detest the liberals in the NE and west coast especially. I vote conservative so I agree with Oklahoma voters.

What would it take to get rid of the electoral college?

MrControversy comments on Feb 28, 2018:

Ironically the process of ending the electoral college would require the electoral college itself to end it. But that's if we played by the rules. A revolution might do it but since we don't have the strength to have one we would need the brains instead. We would have to be very smart about our ...

Trajan61 replies on Feb 28, 2018:

Ha Ha Ha. It will never happen!!

What would it take to get rid of the electoral college?

silvereyes comments on Feb 28, 2018:

Politicians that represent the people... What would it take to get politicians that represent the people? True democracy. See the loop here?

Trajan61 replies on Feb 28, 2018:

Without the electoral college the NE and West Coast would rule. Why would anyone especially in Oklahoma want that?

What would it take to get rid of the electoral college?

tioteo comments on Feb 28, 2018:

Two words: Constitutional amendment

Trajan61 replies on Feb 28, 2018:

And you’ll never get it!

Damn this group is up to 11 members and growing fast.

Atheistman comments on Feb 23, 2018:

Welcome, glad to see not everyone in your generation is liberal

Trajan61 replies on Feb 27, 2018:

An AR 15 is a semi automatic civilian version of the US military’s full automatic M16 machine gun. No it is not an assault rifle. A lot of the liberals seem obcessed with outlawing all guns with detachable ammo clips. They don’t realized that detachable clips make loading and unloading a gun safer and easier as you don’t have to cycle the bullets through the bolt to unload.

Shouldn't they change the name from Agnostic.com to whiny little liberal "free thinker".com?

Atheistman comments on Feb 24, 2018:

The admin is obviously left wing also, and full of shit, instead of informing you you can't see this post because you blocked such and such, they write some other nonsense like this post may have become private. Honesty is the best policy, not bullshit.

Trajan61 replies on Feb 26, 2018:

Yes they are very left wing as are most of the members except for this group.

Damn this group is up to 11 members and growing fast.

NFAguy53 comments on Feb 25, 2018:

I joined this group a day ago. I was slowly climbing up to Level 6. After becoming a member of this group I am climbing pretty quick. You can only put up with so much libtard crap in all the other groups and comments. The left is way strong here.

Trajan61 replies on Feb 25, 2018:

The left is so strong on this website it very discouraging the way the jump on you and treat you like a piece of trash.

I don’t agree with Christain’s about their Christain doctrine but I do agree with them on their ...

EdEarl comments on Feb 25, 2018:

England, including Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is, more or less, a gun free zone, and they have far fewer murders by guns than the US, and significantly fewer by any weapon.

Trajan61 replies on Feb 25, 2018:

In those countries you mentioned you have no right to us a gun for self defense and are more likely to be a victim of criminals as they know you won’t be armed. Here in the US you have a right to defend yourself with a gun. I’ll take the US over any of those other countries any day.

I’ve been shot in combat.

Trajan61 comments on Feb 23, 2018:

How many kids have to be killed before the liberal idiots realize that a gun free zone is an invitation for someone to come in and shoot up the place.

Trajan61 replies on Feb 24, 2018:

@MST3K Most of the liberals are sadly lacking when it comes to common sense.

Anybody else notice that gun control lovers tend not to want to listen to the opposition?

DUCHESSA comments on Feb 24, 2018:

I have been blocked for the stupidest reasons: For being an Atheist (other groups) / voting for Trump / being Latina / no seeing myself as a Hispanic / for supporting gun ownership / only a ban on assault weapons / for being Spanish my first language....NO INVITED TO A COLLEAGUE'S WEDDING FOR BEING ...

Trajan61 replies on Feb 24, 2018:

I’ve been blocked numerous times by the liberals for my Support for Trump and other conservative like being pro gun, favoring less government regulations and lower taxes.

Anybody else notice that gun control lovers tend not to want to listen to the opposition?

Trajan61 comments on Feb 23, 2018:

Yes I agree the liberals are pretty bigoted and as a general rule don’t like to listened to opposing views but the same thing could be said about some conservatives as well. The liberals as a whole seem to want big government and more government regulations but they don’t seem to want to address...

Trajan61 replies on Feb 24, 2018:

@DUCHESSA I didn’t realize the northern border was that much of a problem.