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“The time is now to fight for genuine socialism and an end to capitalist exploitation” SEP ...
RoboGraham comments on Feb 1, 2020:
I think the answer to you question of why did Sanders support the democrats after the rigging of the 2016 election is that he knew a democratic win would be better than a Trump victory and he realizes that he needs the democratic party if he is to have any chance at success in his run for ...
William_Mary replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@RoboGraham I give you a hug preordained for when you'll need it. I'll turn you yet :-) Sanders will help me or you'll have to be one of those in cognitive dissonance realm.
“The time is now to fight for genuine socialism and an end to capitalist exploitation” SEP ...
RoboGraham comments on Feb 1, 2020:
I think the answer to you question of why did Sanders support the democrats after the rigging of the 2016 election is that he knew a democratic win would be better than a Trump victory and he realizes that he needs the democratic party if he is to have any chance at success in his run for ...
William_Mary replies on Feb 1, 2020:
I argue a democratic win would not have been better. I also often theorize that Trump might have been preordained to be the winner. Clinton's foreign policy, especially towards Syria, was more war hawkish than Trumps con speak. Her past history as both from within the white house of her husbands administration and time as SOS speaks volumes towards this. You want me to believe that the amount of support Sanders had in 2016 alone, but now combined with 2020, which is a 1000 times greater than Perot, Nader, and Stein, combined at all times of their runs, is not enough support to run as an independent!?! As using the full exposed truths of our governance and media tactics to serve the deep state. If a genuine Sanders took his support to the Green Party as invited in 2016, he could have probably put that up to a win. A genuine socialist would have taken that popularity to SEP over the past 3 years and built a winning presidential run. You have to also consider that the polls, primaries, and caucuses were all rigged with the help of media collaboration. So what you might believe as being a loss was most likely a significant win. All indications told a completely different story than was being reported. Crowd sizes at rallies. Crowd sizes at caucuses. In which at caucuses people were sent away falsely with provisional ballots. There are no provisional ballots for a caucus! You have to be present for your vote to count in what is basically an all day/night event. If the count is to close to declare a winner or tie, the 2 camps of supporters then mingle and attempt to sway others to their side. In which in all cases in Iowa Sanders supporters outnumber Clinton supporters greatly. What happened in Iowa set the tone for all the rest of the chaos in concerns to caucus states. Shutting Sanders surrogates and supporters out of meetings and counts, then refusing to allow observance and recounts. Note, even all national polls had Sanders beating Trump with high single to double digits compared to Clinton losing or barely ahead. Same as today with Biden or any other. No, Sanders had what it takes, but he blew it. If those of us who now no longer believe in him seeing the con he pulled were in the numbers he'd be showing landslide right now. I simply don't even believe the numbers being posted about him today. Yea he's pulling in big crowds again today, but where do these people come from? You think maybe all those 2016 Clinton supporters just miraculously support Sanders now. I don't think so. But hey, take note. With any luck I'll be here when it's over. And when it is, win or lose, I'll be pointing out how he conned his supporters again.
Why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is in the same party as Joe Biden [wsws.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 29, 2020:
Wow! That is a very strong article and I fear it is absolutely correct. from my outsider view I have never understood why there is no working class party in the USA. Actually there isn't in Canada either though the ever right moving NDP claims that aspect. In the UK the Labour party has also ...
William_Mary replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@rogerbenham it's depressing that our movement is such a slow process to get across to the rest of our fellow American's. It's even more depressing that supporters of both establishment parties can't recognize that their chosen party are committing the same criminal acts and unethical practices as the other party does. In which the younger generations are seeing and attempting to change for their future wanting to introduce socialism into that future. While the majority of them feel they have the right to stagnate their movement although their time has been futile towards change as their lives are half over or further to ending. Beds are burning as we leave rent due for that generation to pay without thought to them. It's totally unfair!
Why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is in the same party as Joe Biden [wsws.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 29, 2020:
Wow! That is a very strong article and I fear it is absolutely correct. from my outsider view I have never understood why there is no working class party in the USA. Actually there isn't in Canada either though the ever right moving NDP claims that aspect. In the UK the Labour party has also ...
William_Mary replies on Feb 1, 2020:
@rogerbenham that's where we have to do the work. It's imperative we use this alternative tool (the internet) to spread the word. With most of the younger generation and millennial's now favoring socialism, our interest is now to get them on the right path towards socialism's truest means. Right now there are to many that are trapped in the illusion of what the DSA (Democratic Socialist of America) are falsely detailing as a socialist movement. Their true intent is capturing and trapping them in the illusion of saving a failed democratic party using people like Sanders and AOC. Who's policies, as those of establishment democrats, will amount to no real change. Such as AOC's Green Deal, operating and relying on corporate interest towards a goal set well under the needs of the present needs to fight today's conditions. Not only is it to little to late, but corporations have no real interest in changing and will fight tooth and nail to drag out any real sense to change. Where the Green Party's initiative is to quickly move from fossil fuels to alternative energy sources creating millions of jobs at the same time. AOC's initiative greatly dismisses this element. Both Sanders and AOC have shown their true nature with supporting much of the same policies as the establishment representatives of both parties. Glorifying war mongers, supporting false Venezuela, Russiagate and Ukrainegate narratives, omitting important facts and history on several issues to keep the establishment line and perception management alive. That would actually give people still reliant only on main stream media a new interest in seeking and finding the information they aren't being told of by that media. When these politicians speak of a news source in which they operate from and develop an opinion from to form a comment, it's never an alternative news source! That's on purpose! It's sticking to the establishment agenda. It's always from a main stream media source. Can you just imagine Sanders one day on the campaign trail telling his crowd of supporters that his 2016 election was rigged against him and spelling it out to them? Shock waves across the nation would occur. And by the way, it wasn't Russia who hacked the DNC, that information was leaked by Seth Rich a DNC staffer. I urge you all to go to the Consortium News site and read up on the VIPS analysis of data released from the investigation. Are you getting any sense of what could happen here now? Memorandums of their findings were sent to Obama and Trump, main stream media knows of these findings, yet most voters and American's know nothing of it. And when Clinton tells you all 17 intelligence agencies came to the same findings she's lying. When actually it was a chosen few hand picked agents from the FBI, CIA,...
Why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is in the same party as Joe Biden [wsws.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 29, 2020:
Wow! That is a very strong article and I fear it is absolutely correct. from my outsider view I have never understood why there is no working class party in the USA. Actually there isn't in Canada either though the ever right moving NDP claims that aspect. In the UK the Labour party has also ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 30, 2020:
There is a party for the working class. https://socialequality.com/
Listening to Mike Pence’s history, you might think it wasn’t Soviets but Americans who liberated...
William_Mary comments on Jan 26, 2020:
{only to be ‘erased’ from memory by an American vice-president 75 years later} Truth be told, we in the US have been hood winked about that war since its time. Forget about 75 years later, but the entire 75 years. Just like WWI the Russians didn't want any part of that war either. Very likely...
William_Mary replies on Jan 26, 2020:
@FrayedBear exactly
Listening to Mike Pence’s history, you might think it wasn’t Soviets but Americans who liberated...
William_Mary comments on Jan 26, 2020:
{only to be ‘erased’ from memory by an American vice-president 75 years later} Truth be told, we in the US have been hood winked about that war since its time. Forget about 75 years later, but the entire 75 years. Just like WWI the Russians didn't want any part of that war either. Very likely...
William_Mary replies on Jan 26, 2020:
@FrayedBear I just wanted to add some more history to it for those who need to know the truth. God dam mit FB, I have an agenda here! :-)
As long as we allow only choices between republican and democrat politicians this will remain.
Surchin comments on Jan 25, 2020:
As a healthcare practitioner, if healthcare is a right, who provides it? Do you force people to go into debt for school to provide for others' needs? I think we both can agree that our hybrid system is not working. We do not have a free market for healthcare, we do not have a truly state sponsored ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 26, 2020:
@Surchin it's a proven fact that healthcare can be vastly cheaper on a socialized scale which can be worked at the end of the year when doing your taxes. In 2016 Sanders proposal was approximately $700 for a single middle class person. At the time that would have been approximately 2 months of what was drawn out of my pay at the time. Saving me 10 months of further payments for the rest of the year. That's approximately a $7000 dollar savings in a year that can go towards a hell of a lot of other things, mainly retirement. Why in the hell would anyone want to continue supporting over bloated CEO incomes, bonuses, failed red tape procedures, etc in continued support of a system where it seems like we are paying for better healthcare systems for people around the globe? Because basically that is what we are doing. The population of the US is basically being used to subsidize the rest of the globes universal healthcare. I personally want the same as they get. In some places they get free transportation to and from their appointments and hospital stays. Reimburse for bus fares if that is the case. Home visiting childcare (nannies) while they're away to their appointments. We're plainly being hoodwinked on healthcare in the US for manipulated profit needs. And it's well past time for our representatives to do something about it other than depending on their share of the scam being perpetrated on us.
MeToo provocation against Bernie Sanders organized by CNN and Elizabeth Warren [wsws.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 22, 2020:
Heavy reading! What I clearly see is that (surprise) the United States has no idea about socialism. It regards caring for weaker, poorer, sicker, wrong coloured etc. people as all signs of a weak economy. It refuses to look at the fairly socialist countries (Canada, Britain, France etc.) but ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 25, 2020:
@rogerbenham Warren of course would apply some executive orders as all do reversing Trump's towards a resemblance of Obama era. But the shift to the right is already in place. So I agree with your assessment. And as far as I'm concerned and stated here on many occasions, Sanders has already telegraphed what I see as the same. His actions and lack of actions in 2016 have already laid the path he is most likely going to follow. I will continuously argue that if Sanders would have taken Jill Steins offer of running under the Green Party ticket we'd have a president Sanders today, not Trump. He was leading in the polls within double digits of beating Trump. A large amount of registered democratic and independent voters that don't participate in voting today would have came out in droves to support him. I seen people of all ages and from both republican and independent parties changing party affiliation to vote for him in the primary. He fucking blew all that support! Then gave up the fight at the convention in which he promised to fight through. Then joined in with the false Russiagate narrative. And to this day never has mentioned or will mention how the DNC screwed him and his supporters! How the Primary went down from state to state. Not one time did he question what was going on in caucus states especially to show any sense of supporting us. He basically just allowed himself to be walked all over.
MeToo provocation against Bernie Sanders organized by CNN and Elizabeth Warren [wsws.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 22, 2020:
Heavy reading! What I clearly see is that (surprise) the United States has no idea about socialism. It regards caring for weaker, poorer, sicker, wrong coloured etc. people as all signs of a weak economy. It refuses to look at the fairly socialist countries (Canada, Britain, France etc.) but ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 25, 2020:
@rogerbenham I'll argue she is a Hillary Clinton! She claims to have been stabbed in the back by Clinton, then supports Clinton. Now works with Clinton. In 2016 she held back her choice in support for either Sanders or Clinton almost right up to the convention, then supported Clinton. Who I ask had a platform that closely resembles hers is all one need to ask to understand the hypocrisy here. Below is a time Warren was a law professor at Harvard, on the Bill Moyer's show speaking about what Clinton did to her over bankruptcy legislature. Yet she works hand in hand now with the dog that bit her? I'll argue what you see in this video is a woman setting up her political career. That these types of dog and cat fights are merely a show of each other in bitter feuds are actually in compliance to provide entertainment. In time Warren and Sanders will carry on like nothing happened just as we see between Warren and Clinton. Because it means nothing to these people. The show must go on, towards the next show. Welcome to the grand illusion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uj2aN4i87k
MeToo provocation against Bernie Sanders organized by CNN and Elizabeth Warren [wsws.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 22, 2020:
Heavy reading! What I clearly see is that (surprise) the United States has no idea about socialism. It regards caring for weaker, poorer, sicker, wrong coloured etc. people as all signs of a weak economy. It refuses to look at the fairly socialist countries (Canada, Britain, France etc.) but ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 25, 2020:
@rogerbenham https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/09/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-2020.html https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary?cid=N00033492=2020=C If you study the 2 articles above, what you'll get, in a 2018 to 2020 nut shell. Warren went from collecting big money to keep her seat 2018, transfer the remaining to 2020, to now excepting their money through PACs for 2020. It's basically the best of both worlds. A game of deceit if I may. It sounds quite good to run as a president behind the mask of claiming you don't except big money these days while hoping the population is to ignorant to understand the what, where, and how of what a PAC is and does. And those who don't do the work support out of ignorance for various reasons. Approximately 3 months ago reports started coming out that Warren was initiating contact with Hillary Clinton. Or vise versa. Clinton was reported to be introducing her support system to Warren. Big money donors, campaign strategist, campaign dinners and meetings with corporations, etc. You get the picture. I think it's fair to place a conjecture to the recent Sanders events as being a Clinton campaign strategy Warren pulled. It helps to take all eyes from the money issue when you're attempting to draw the votes of some of those I speak of above who are voting merely on wanting the first woman president while using the sexist narrative.
MeToo provocation against Bernie Sanders organized by CNN and Elizabeth Warren [wsws.
BitFlipper comments on Jan 22, 2020:
It's sad to see your hatred of Hillary spilling over into this election cycle.
William_Mary replies on Jan 25, 2020:
Says the man that seemingly supports a woman clearly bent towards retribution stemming from hatred. Where you lose, is that the media has managed that perception of Clinton having an agenda towards retribution on Sanders, Trump, and Russia, blaming these entities for her loss. While my conjecture is that it's all a facade. As you seemingly are ignorant of her past and the results of it. Possibly a willing compliant to her and those results against humanity supporting the harm shes staunchly played a part in. I hate the game!
THE WORLD MUST END THE US’ ILLEGAL ECONOMIC WAR The United States is relying more heavily on ...
powder comments on Jan 20, 2020:
Which is why the $USD must be replaced as the worlds default currency. Then all can tell the US to shove their sanctions up their arse and sanction them instead for things like assassinating generals and organising coups
William_Mary replies on Jan 23, 2020:
@powder they have other options though.
Did anyone catch the opening of the senate impeachment hearing yesterday?
Cutiebeauty comments on Jan 22, 2020:
I believe opening statements were submitted to both sides ahead of time and edited accordingly to address particular issues...
William_Mary replies on Jan 23, 2020:
@rogerbenham I'm saying that I'm fairly certain that the whole process is a facade.
'Inexcusable': Hillary Clinton, Who Lost to Trump in 2016, Won't Commit to Helping Bernie Sanders ...
altschmerz comments on Jan 21, 2020:
Shillary knows how to hold a grudge. She made nice with Obama after he won with the stipulation that he would back her next time she ran, but privately she is said to refer to him as "that man." And she's never going to forgive or forget Bernie for running such an effective campaign against her in ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 22, 2020:
If you look hard enough and use the right words in a search you can find the outright disdain, or act of I would argue, of the family feud Michele Obama and Clinton had in the 2008 run. I've posted a video of Michele's comments before that would lead one to believe the relationship was no where near a cause of later making Clinton SOS. But how did that go? That alone gives at least a couple of suggestions as to why she was.
THE WORLD MUST END THE US’ ILLEGAL ECONOMIC WAR The United States is relying more heavily on ...
Cutiebeauty comments on Jan 20, 2020:
I think it's a better alternative than actual war, with bullets and tanks etc..
William_Mary replies on Jan 21, 2020:
Easily said while you're relatively safe in the US, while that is exactly what others face to force the US dollar use. And sanctions kill vastly more people in some regards. While the US has lost approximately 8000 people between the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Venezuela alone has lost at least 40,000 people due to sanctions since only about 2014. Most of those since only 2017 at the height of application. You're basically admitting that the economic murder of millions over time is worth the murder of several thousand American troops when other countries resist. Just which families would you believe agree with that assessment? And if you don't believe these wars are over lies and a deceptive reality in which they are being killed in, you're must support them?
THE WORLD MUST END THE US’ ILLEGAL ECONOMIC WAR The United States is relying more heavily on ...
powder comments on Jan 20, 2020:
Which is why the $USD must be replaced as the worlds default currency. Then all can tell the US to shove their sanctions up their arse and sanction them instead for things like assassinating generals and organising coups
William_Mary replies on Jan 21, 2020:
What's keeping them from doing it though?
In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max and Stacy look at the latest threat to cut a nation off ...
Gemini-1947 comments on Jan 20, 2020:
I like to watch rt.
William_Mary replies on Jan 20, 2020:
A very good alternative news source outside of main stream media! Do you watch the Rick Sanchez show?
Well worth listening to - George Orwell's deathbed prophecies [m.youtube.com]
rogerbenham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
Wow! Well it happened but not as badly. It still might. We don't live in fear. Mostly we live asleep. We ignore what is going on all around us.
William_Mary replies on Jan 20, 2020:
@FrayedBear it ask me to sign in with my TV provider. It's going to depend on whether you have the History Channel there I guess.
Election Insanity 2020: How Much Longer Will We Keep Getting Duped by Political Okie Dokes?
rogerbenham comments on Jan 19, 2020:
You sometimes write way over the top of my head. Like now. I don't understand what you are trying to say. I read the article and wondered if they misprinted Bernie for Obama. Anyway the article didn't go anywhere.
William_Mary replies on Jan 19, 2020:
Perhaps you're missing the directive of the group?
How a Hidden Parliamentary Session Revealed Trump’s True Motives in Iraq The U.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
The guilt carried by the USA since WW2 is going to take a long time to heal and the reparation dpt should likely be paid by oil companies and arm manufacturers. But I'll not hold my breath. I didn't know that Kissenger (Warhawk Extraordinaire) ever was so honest.
William_Mary replies on Jan 19, 2020:
@rogerbenham and yet Carter never speaks out against the imperialism being unleashed today. He gleefully joins his counterparts when invited as all is well.
Well worth listening to - George Orwell's deathbed prophecies [m.youtube.com]
rogerbenham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
Wow! Well it happened but not as badly. It still might. We don't live in fear. Mostly we live asleep. We ignore what is going on all around us.
William_Mary replies on Jan 19, 2020:
@rogerbenham “Kings of Pain” follows wildlife biologist Adam Thorn and professional animal handler Rob “Caveman” Alleva as they get bitten and stung by some of the most dangerous animals and vicious stinging insects in the world – from a reticulated python to a rove beetle – to create a complete and comprehensive pain index that will ultimately help save lives. https://www.history.com/shows/kings-of-pain
How a Hidden Parliamentary Session Revealed Trump’s True Motives in Iraq The U.
altschmerz comments on Jan 18, 2020:
*My fellow Americans. If you don't think the democrats don't know about what's going on and compliant to this obvious injustice, I have absolutely no hope for you. Please quit voting! Allow the adults outside of the conditioning to attempt to place sanity into our country! * The above is the ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 19, 2020:
@altschmerz I know the feeling all to well. I keep bouncing the idea of voting for Sanders around in my skull, but, soon after the thought 2016 quickly smacks me upside my head, it makes my head hurt. While the debates have added a rather colorful entertainment for us I quickly remind myself that it's just that, entertainment. Controlled by the media apparatus by the DNC. What we are getting is simply a mirror image of 2016 with more people participating in role playing. Within a controlled environment that isn't answering any problems or detailing any means to combat the real issues. Again the main narrative is beat Trump at any cost while basically preserving the present policies ripping our society apart. Russia is hacking our elections fear tactic as part as the foundation the facade is built on. Iran is evil, another corner stone. Israel has a right to defend itself, cornerstone. Universal healthcare cost to much, cornerstone. China is stealing our technology and is a communist threat to the world, cornerstone. What you aren't getting is the mention of a vast waste of money on Middle East wars built on lies that they knew can't be won. Barely, if at all, brought up even though we know this is fact. When it is brought up it's not about the truth, it's about how to adjust sustainability. In other words that means more of the same. All the money we've put into this warring could have been provided to combat social issues times over! In the debates it gets, crickets. Actually delving into the legitimacy of actions and holding people responsible can not be tolerated! BECAUSE THEY ALL PLAYED A FUCKING ROLE IN IT! And still are!
How a Hidden Parliamentary Session Revealed Trump’s True Motives in Iraq The U.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
The guilt carried by the USA since WW2 is going to take a long time to heal and the reparation dpt should likely be paid by oil companies and arm manufacturers. But I'll not hold my breath. I didn't know that Kissenger (Warhawk Extraordinaire) ever was so honest.
William_Mary replies on Jan 19, 2020:
@rogerbenham the sad thing is there seems to be an abundance of them. But as above where altschmerz brings up an article of Johnstone's, these people seemingly are staunchly related to republican administrations, within a means she mentions in that article. In that article she relates the democrats to a boxers jabs through their policy practices. While their policies basically do little to nothing to create the progressive change they voice to be, they essentially move us slowly to the right in compliance. This setting us up for the knockout punch for when the republicans take control moving further right. I'll use the last 5 decades as an example. Carter to Reagan--Pretty much without public notice Carter allows himself to begin the Afghanistan affair with the USSR. Combine that with the hostage situation of Iran. Carter comes out looking like a dying rose only to be seen as a president who made some bad choices who got a bunch of servicemen killed and couldn't get the hostages freed. Going on to be a media wise growing symbol as a humanitarian only to be denounced by republican supporters. History now telling the incoming Reagan campaign made a deal with the Iranians to hold the hostages until the 80 election was over. Combine that with Iran-Contra you begin to see a certain type of people we've seen filter from the Reagan administration and 3 other administrations, both Bush's and now Trump. Latin American wars, illegal arms trade with Contra's and Iran, after US funding was banished for use twice, leading to a crack cocaine epidemic. With only a few fall guys taking the hit virtually no one is held responsible. Add 4 years of daddy Bush to continue much of the same policies while also using his presidential power to cover up the remaining remnants of the previous 8 years of crimes and his involvements. Including his time in the CIA. Clinton begins his endeavors with light antagonizing warring in various places like Kosovo, Bosnia, Somalia, Rwanda, and Iraq. Although media wise seen as humanitarian these all had quite questionable acts of compliant atrocities within them. Bill Clinton is still vastly endeared by many today. 500,000 dead children in Iraq can't even break through that barrier. Bush Jr to Obama, I would imagine the pattern is exposing itself by now? Bush loads his administration with much of Reagan's administration war criminals who are friends of daddy. Again making an appearance in the Trump administration. Obama like Clinton is endeared by many. Those main 2 previously from above are all linked to think tanks, NGO's, and foundations of a particular agenda wrapped up in deep state intelligence agencies using a tool called the media to create a facade towards balance of government. I can only wish right had something ...
How a Hidden Parliamentary Session Revealed Trump’s True Motives in Iraq The U.
altschmerz comments on Jan 18, 2020:
*My fellow Americans. If you don't think the democrats don't know about what's going on and compliant to this obvious injustice, I have absolutely no hope for you. Please quit voting! Allow the adults outside of the conditioning to attempt to place sanity into our country! * The above is the ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
Right. When I make that statement it's in grave hopes people will step back and give my agenda here a hard thought realizing what dire times we are facing. People like you're talking about relates to another reply I just made a while ago. They refuse to see who they support committing the same unethical practices the other party commit. Often justifying it by degrees none the less.
How a Hidden Parliamentary Session Revealed Trump’s True Motives in Iraq The U.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
The guilt carried by the USA since WW2 is going to take a long time to heal and the reparation dpt should likely be paid by oil companies and arm manufacturers. But I'll not hold my breath. I didn't know that Kissenger (Warhawk Extraordinaire) ever was so honest.
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
Forgive me. I wish he would just fucking die already!
Happier Syria Of course, Syria was neither perfect nor utopian before the start of the Civil War,...
RoboGraham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
The Syrian Civil War is confusing. I feel like I've been kept in the dark about it.
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
@RoboGraham right, I know the feeling all to well. All you can do is state you argument and hope for the best sometimes. With some people no matter how much information you provide will you be able to turn cognitive dissonance. They will latch onto those very few ideologies they've been conditioned to believe in never stepping abroad to anything that contradicts. Accusations with little to no information without opposing views become pure facts. They become unable to ask the right questions or recognize when someone else does so with legitimacy. Articles that provide valuable learning details via links within an opposing view take to much time for them reach an informative basis to form what could be a redevelopment of their current opinion. In which at this point they are probably more the type who only learns from catchy eye candy headlines and a forward paragraph or 2 that's meant to condition one. Then the MSM via radio and TV fill in the rest of the agenda with perception management. Because those reporters and journalist will not upset the agenda either. Never giving the brain the opportunity to raise valuable questions. Pick you fights well. I learned that the hard way. I've wasted much time debating those who only are able to repeat establishment rhetoric nonstop never getting anywhere. They can never provide an opinion with substantial information only repeating the rhetoric they hear in the MSM. And they attack when you do with the rhetoric they've been conditioned from which they hear from MSM and often social media. This is why tribal politics continue to survive. They only recognize when the other party does unethical practices, but can't recognize when their party is committing the same unethical acts. Often then it becomes an argument of degree in compliance of justification. Which from the Reagan era to Trump, at least, what we see today is the enactment of crimes and unethical procedures becoming ordinary.
Happier Syria Of course, Syria was neither perfect nor utopian before the start of the Civil War,...
RoboGraham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
The Syrian Civil War is confusing. I feel like I've been kept in the dark about it.
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
@RoboGraham well the terminology within the presidential powers is quite misleading. None the less, it's due to reliable and factual information being used. Both countries are throwing around the terrorist label. Was this person also so inclined to give Obama the same justification as he illegally used these powers? Being a subject of partisan politics. Possibly just engulfed in the perception management of hate Iran and anything they say or do also? Personally I would argue Iran is the better adult in the room. They've been in defense mode since the early 1900's due to colonialism from first Britain and now the US. Anyone that can't see this simply doesn't know the history of these relationships over the time lines and compliant to the brainwashing that comes with it. This is all information you have to seek on your own accord being the media works hand in hand with the establishment and deep state. If Iran assassinated a commander of ours within their sense of terrorist labeling, would this person accept it as legitimate? Probably not having been conditioned outside of the true history and facts.
Happier Syria Of course, Syria was neither perfect nor utopian before the start of the Civil War,...
RoboGraham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
The Syrian Civil War is confusing. I feel like I've been kept in the dark about it.
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
@RoboGraham basically the US created a civilian war by manipulating social tensions. As ISIS was being forced out of Iraq into Syria, the US began funding and weaponizing various sects of Al-Qaeda groups to create a social disturbance under a facade of a civil war. When all was summed up something like 28 terrorist sect groups were or had been funded by a combination of the CIA and US military. Add on the White Helmets and a fake mash unit also funded by an English billionaire. At some points even fighting each other, total chaos. Essentially forcing the civilians into a war by over running local governments. This while ISIS was able to move into what became their caliphate. Long story short. These groups were then used to fight ISIS when the Syrian government with the help of Russia began pushing them out of the cities they destroyed with the help of western coalition bombing. Eventually many of those in these groups realigned with other groups and or ISIS. The articles I sent you can fill in the pieces. Here's one from the late Robert Parry to get an idea towards my comments. Follow the links within to fill in some of the pieces. https://consortiumnews.com/2016/10/05/new-group-think-for-war-with-syriarussia/
Happier Syria Of course, Syria was neither perfect nor utopian before the start of the Civil War,...
RoboGraham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
The Syrian Civil War is confusing. I feel like I've been kept in the dark about it.
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
@RoboGraham I would suggest concentrating on Beeley's work then through her Patreon page maybe. She has done a lot of work through participating in UN council meetings on Syria that might lead you to more domestic style issues. I had a council meeting a while back she was involved in, along with a Syrian representative, that went into many aspects of the nature citizens dealt with during the times the terrorist groups were taking over the country. However I lost it in a crash and been having a hard time finding it to pass on. But you might find it there. I don't do the Patreon thing myself. But most information in that documentary and council meeting can be slowly exposed in the many articles of hers at the mint press news site.
Happier Syria Of course, Syria was neither perfect nor utopian before the start of the Civil War,...
RoboGraham comments on Jan 18, 2020:
The Syrian Civil War is confusing. I feel like I've been kept in the dark about it.
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
If you rely mainly on MSM for your information, you have been. I would suggest learning more about it at https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=017930374292714292268%3Avw5cotp1r2c&q=syrian+war&sa=Search=consortiumnews.com%2F=&ss=2961j1486191j9 https://thegrayzone.com/?s=syrian+war=relevance=DESC https://www.mintpressnews.com/?s=syrian+war And especially looking up the work of Vanessa Beeley who has extensively worked in the Middle East. https://www.mintpressnews.com/author/vanessa-beeley/
Welcome to the oligarchy
Redheadedgammy comments on Jan 18, 2020:
It’s a system for people with money. If you don’t have money you die. This is the repub healthcare plan.
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
When you believe it's only a republican matter, you're missing a large part of the problem. Top Hospital Lobbyist Predicts Pelosi Will Block Vote on Medicare for All Medicare for All opponents have donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Pelosi and House Democratic leaders. https://readsludge.com/2019/04/12/top-hospital-lobbyist-predicts-pelosi-will-block-vote-on-medicare-for-all/ Top Democratic Consultants Work for Anti–Medicare for All Campaign The industry-led Partnership for America’s Health Care Future, which has assailed Democratic presidential candidates’ reform plans, is drawing on Democratic firms for assistance. https://readsludge.com/2019/11/21/top-democratic-consultants-work-for-anti-medicare-for-all-campaign/ Blue Dog Consultant Working With Anti-Health Care Reform Lobbying Group Kristen Hawn, a communications consultant, appears on emails with industry-backed groups strategizing against health care changes. https://readsludge.com/2019/12/13/blue-dog-consultant-working-with-anti-health-care-reform-lobbying-group/
The Authoritarian Dreamscape of the New Wild West William deBuys reports on the humanitarian and ...
rogerbenham comments on Jan 17, 2020:
"The core truth that unites Trump and his supporters is that he hates **who we hate** – and the border wall stands for keeping out those unwanted people and all they represent.}" And who are we supposed to hate? Anyway is a nice satirical article.
William_Mary replies on Jan 18, 2020:
I personally hate that it's a project towards waste of money to benefit corporations on a manufactured narrative imperialism created. Our government waste enough money on aide to the countries they've managed to corrupt that could be beneficial partners to the world society if they had just been left alone to run their own societies. In which the people now run from. Freedom and democracy isn't the quest here when you've taken that away for the benefit of imperialism agendas. Then when they come to you seeking it you also turn them away.
Big Tech Firms Are Joining Trump’s All Out War Against Iran Deleting messages of support for ...
FrayedBear comments on Jan 13, 2020:
Perhaps all the more reason to follow RT and Al-Jazeera?
William_Mary replies on Jan 17, 2020:
@FrayedBear RT on the other hand I use quite often.
Big Tech Firms Are Joining Trump’s All Out War Against Iran Deleting messages of support for ...
FrayedBear comments on Jan 13, 2020:
Perhaps all the more reason to follow RT and Al-Jazeera?
William_Mary replies on Jan 17, 2020:
I will argue Al-Jazeera can be spotty though.
More evidence of the state of corruption in America and why the world should hate the country: ...
Sticks48 comments on Jan 16, 2020:
There are so many reasons why other countries hate us and justifiably so.
William_Mary replies on Jan 17, 2020:
@Sticks48 step out of the red blue construct. There in lies the problem.
Ex-US intel officer: Pompeo ‘lying through his teeth’ on Iran The Trump administration is ...
rogerbenham comments on Jan 12, 2020:
Well Trump now could be tried as a war criminal. The sad part is that most Americans will believe the government tale. After all if you know your government lies then why vote at all?
William_Mary replies on Jan 12, 2020:
As far back as Reagan, they all should have been. I keep explaining the importance in the exodus of the 2 party system and voting for 3rd parties. Our only savior is the Green party and Socialist Equality Party. Or we continue towards becoming a country of nationalism fascist bent on warring and colonialism headed towards>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEPdOZbyzbw
If this is true it is ecocide. The Australian Great Artesan basin water is 2000 years old.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 7, 2020:
I do not understand. What is is this box? Does it really contain Cs 137? Where does it come from? Where is it now? Could it be dumped into a ground water basin? Could it be used to make fission material?
William_Mary replies on Jan 11, 2020:
@FrayedBear here in Ohio they have started using fracking waste water in our deicing trucks to spread on the highways during winter. Telling us the levels of radiation are safe. While our cars get ate up with rust if you don't constantly keep it washed off of them. Please do tell, how are we suppose to wash this crap out of ourselves!?!
Why a Shadowy Tech Firm With Ties to Israeli Intelligence Is Running Doomsday Election Simulations...
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jan 6, 2020:
How long before Democrats say Iran is trying to help Trump be reelected by hacking into our system? Logic escapes them. In regards to the killing of Soleimani, I had a Democrat say that Trump is waiting for Putin to call him to tell him what to do next. So Trump killed an Iranian general and Iran ...
William_Mary replies on Jan 11, 2020:
I have to wonder whether hacking or a rogue CIA within Iran hacked or launched the missiles.
How Economists Tricked Us Into Thinking Capitalism Works Our species has survived through caring ...
FrayedBear comments on Jan 6, 2020:
I have just opened my emails and contained in one from the Victorian Trades Hall Council is an appeal for volunteers and money for Victorian Bushfire Relief. Interestingly it is stated that relief agencies have been overwhelmed with donations of personal items such as clothing and therefore money is...
William_Mary replies on Jan 11, 2020:
Often the problem with food and material donations are the vast amount brought it. Storing the over load becomes costly, food becomes rotten, the earlier issue becomes nest material while rodents feast on the latter issue. Then comes the fraudulent conduct of private foundations and philanthropies. In which 2 places of more recent history you might now be thinking of Haiti and Puerto Rico. Waste of money within known aide foundations via over paid CEO's and area managers. Pick yours very carefully! Often unorganized while in effected areas where people who need help the most don't get it, and or, biased application is the chosen pattern. Which way do you go?
Does America Have Capitalist Stockholm Syndrome?
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jan 6, 2020:
The American Dream. They one day hope to be billionaires with hard work lol
William_Mary replies on Jan 6, 2020:
I play the lottery to! :-(
Washington escalates Mideast war threat with strikes on Iraq, Syria [wsws.
SeanMoore comments on Jan 2, 2020:
The USA is bombing Iraq again? That certainly turned out well before. Except for the 15 year war in Iraq with 3500 American soldiers and a million Iraqis killed.
William_Mary replies on Jan 4, 2020:
It, Iraq, now serves as a battle ground for the US imperialist against Iran. Go ahead and send troops in now. Our families will be fighting both Iraqis and Iranians. And the Iranians will send a lot more than 5000 home in body bags. This is what a war built on lies in the first place have taken us to! The question now is, are the American people going to sacrifice their families over those lies again for the profits of the military complex and capital system who are the only beneficial entities?
Edward Gallagher, Donald Trump and America’s criminal wars [wsws.
rogerbenham comments on Jan 1, 2020:
Why add Carter? To me he is easily the best president you guys have had in my 72 year lifetime. Kennedy, not Carter.
William_Mary replies on Jan 2, 2020:
Carter got his hands dirty in the Afghan issues that lead to the support of Operation Cyclone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone The people of Afghanistan who grew tired of a corrupt government lead an uprising to go back to being a socialist government. and signing a treaty with the Soviet Union. And of course the familiar story of mass murder and flipping the narrative towards cold war agendas became the lead to 9/11 and today's events in that region. Carter essentially allowed himself via the CIA and Charlie Wilson to become the father of the interference in those countries leading to supporting and funding terrorist groups over diplomacy. Kennedy had his flaws in Cuba and Latin America also. If he really wanted to expose the CIA for what they were, Central America would have provided a good deal of pause for the American people.
America Will Likely Experience a Social Breakdown in the 2020s [ghionjournal.
rogerbenham comments on Dec 31, 2019:
Of course it will breakdown. It will collapse financially at any moment once people ever figure out the truth.
William_Mary replies on Jan 1, 2020:
The people are blissfully going about their simple lives. As that, what is happening out there will not happen to me, delusion engulfs them. A large amount of people don't even think, know, or hear about these issues. The main stream media tells them the economy is good and growing, the market is up and breaking records in some areas on some days. To many 2008 was just a blip where, if they are in a certain class or hold a position in which they have small market interest, lost about a 1/3 of their value. Some may even believe they actually got it back by now. That's the problem in a nut shell. Because millions of people who lost everything in 2008 were on another ship beside theirs went it went down. And the same wave is coming back around that can effect them this time filtering down to family and friends around them. This is what the results of their social conditioning have brought us. Our culture no longer relies on initiatives or innovation to embody a social construct towards advancing our society. For over 5 decades democracy has been torn down and society has been targeted within a systematic conditioning that has lead us to having little to no time to consider those we share society with to a large degree. We blissfully put ourselves in a place of tribalism at times when the media forces us to do so now, in the small amount of time we spend observing it, which has allowed them to create and choose what they want us to see and hear. We have lost the sight in which those around us outside the US still have and are fighting now. They are managing to keep themselves informed! They are fighting against what we have already become! In Latin and South America, they are fighting against what we have done to their neighboring countries. Those people are united! While we have essentially already surrendered and will merely fall divided. Our truth for most part will not come until the morning they wake up and find the bottom fell out during the night, or is presently falling as they drive to work. Just as it happened in 2008.
Biden clarifies after saying he wouldn't comply with impeachment-related subpoena Democratic ...
Cutiebeauty comments on Dec 29, 2019:
If Biden ends up running against Trump, who would you vote for?
William_Mary replies on Dec 30, 2019:
Unless a candidate stands up and calls out the establishment whole heartedly, I'll never vote for a Democrat again. I've never voted for a Republican for the same reasons I now see the Democrats as. My choice will be for either a Green Party or an SEP candidate.
Campaign against Sanders on ‘antisemitism’ for his criticism of Israel begins in earnest
William_Mary comments on Dec 29, 2019:
Many consider Sanders to be leaning Zionist. He has only himself to blame for the divisive views towards him on Israel. While the article postures him as a genuine advocate for the Palestinians he has left a well open for other notions through his actions and or lack of actions. If this link works ...
William_Mary replies on Dec 29, 2019:
@altschmerz well he's most likely going to go through pretty much the same smear campaign Corbyn went through. Warren also. He needs to pick a structured side and stick to it if he were genuine.
The Articles of Impeachment Should Have Been These Instead | Ted Rall's Rallblog
powder comments on Dec 28, 2019:
It's a joke. Just read Biden will refuse if subpoenaed by the GOP to testify at an impeachment trial. Apparently scared it will divert attention away from Trump. Well done democrats, who will nominate Biden gifting Trump a second term. Pelosi playing games and not delivering articles of impeachment...
William_Mary replies on Dec 29, 2019:
Biden however reversed his decision yesterday in Iowa during campaigning. I imagine his handlers explained how it looks to the public if he chose to commit the same offense of refusing a subpoena as those from previous hearings after using that against them and Trump. He however continued on managing the narrative of course, I don't do the same wrong as the other guy, while at the same time attempting to contradict his previous statements by stating he was setting the record right by explaining himself. In other words, his words, clarifying himself. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-clarifies-after-saying-he-wouldnt-comply-with-impeachment-related-subpoena/ar-BBYqa3e
Imagine everything you own being on the internet under your control from anywhere. Good or bad?
rogerbenham comments on Dec 24, 2019:
Should we ever believe what our government says about another government, especially one it likes regarding as an enemy?
William_Mary replies on Dec 25, 2019:
@rogerbenham my sources, for the most part, eliminate the right left divisional divided conflict covering the essence of issues. They, I, don't allow the distinction of either side which hinders the amount of information or entrapment to one or the other which leads to false perceptions, willing ignorance in compliance, or blissful acceptance to acts both sides commit, leading to a delusional reality. The Ukrainegate and Russiagate issues would be a perfect example of most recent events which have captured the public attention for the past 3 years. Where my main 2 sources on these issues have been Consortium News and Mint Press News that have exposed those issues as both being misleading and vastly lacking factual information in which both the right and left are compliant in developing a delusional reality to cover up each others crimes and unethical actions. The border issues which has vastly left the news cycle. Jeffery Epstein. The war on terrorism, recently Afghanistangate, the entire Middle East and African, especially North Africa, the entire Latin America problem. Truth does not conflict with truth or facts when all the information is provided to develop an intellectual opinion. Conflict only occurs when more information is provided or discovered. Closed minds create the conflict when one refuses to examine new information. Tribal politics are designed to create that conflict. Each person has the ability to either play a part in the conflict or intellectually weigh all information to avoid it within the factual truth through the information provided. But when most of the population is reliant on one side or the others managed reality without proper examination of all information, there in comes the political conflict creating ignorant voters. Each side refusing to examine facts that are presented no matter who provided those facts and information. The tribes listen only to their chosen glorified politician or news caster unwilling to accept the possibility the storm is coming because another tribe running from it provided the information. We have hard working independent investigative journalist who have been harking on this problem for decades now who can't get their work released to main stream sources because of the entrapment system they are caught in. Who many came from that very system out of disgust even though it meant leaving a lucrative career. They chose dignity and integrity over money and systematic perception management. The other conflict is getting the right and left to these sources.
Imagine everything you own being on the internet under your control from anywhere. Good or bad?
rogerbenham comments on Dec 24, 2019:
Should we ever believe what our government says about another government, especially one it likes regarding as an enemy?
William_Mary replies on Dec 24, 2019:
@rogerbenham I get truth from the sources I use. If I couldn't find the truth I'd just be another ignorant voter in which I'm attempting to change. That's my whole purpose here within this group. One person at a time if it must be.
Imagine everything you own being on the internet under your control from anywhere. Good or bad?
rogerbenham comments on Dec 24, 2019:
Should we ever believe what our government says about another government, especially one it likes regarding as an enemy?
William_Mary replies on Dec 24, 2019:
Question More!
The Democratic Party Has a Race Problem in the 2020 Election Harris’ appeals to the “Obama ...
altschmerz comments on Dec 20, 2019:
Normally I like Dahleen Glanton but she's way off base here. https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/dahleen-glanton/ct-dahleen-glanton-kamala-harris-black-woman-president-20191204-skyuncgwpzdrxc4x7x5u7ywhki-story.html
William_Mary replies on Dec 21, 2019:
@altschmerz well look how Obama came upon us, forced on us, and then what he became. Look at who he supposedly went up against in 2008. Who he then made his SOS. Then she became the 2016 candidate who through a rigged system took out Sanders and brought us Trump. You might see a correlation of ending results if you think it out. Clinton held as much power in world politics as SOS by most means. As does a republican Senate. Look at the effects of it on our country. The resource in India is at the moment swimming in an atmosphere of nationalism within a fascist nature that isn't much different than our own right now. I wouldn't consider him or her to be looking at us from a different perspective, but from the same perspective within a more diverse religious society. In which some are under attack today within a country undergoing major changes. Decency in politics is often well hidden until you've been called on towards leadership of the deception. Obama is the poster child or horrific lessons learned on this. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from 2016 to want to think about taking another bite off Sanders catering.
The deception of a liar.
Cutiebeauty comments on Dec 21, 2019:
Many small donations would bring the average down... Just because he has very large contributors doesn't mean everyone is donating thousands of dollars...
William_Mary replies on Dec 21, 2019:
Or Biden is calculating one group of donors from another group. Either way it's a deception!
Priceless! Is when DWS during the rules debate states she wants her grandchildren to understand she ...
altschmerz comments on Dec 20, 2019:
Who's DWS?
William_Mary replies on Dec 21, 2019:
Deborah Wasserman Schultz, she was the Chair of the DNC in 2016 until she was forced to resign at Obama's request when Wikileaks exposed the emails that were leaked by an insider. Along with it coming out that questions in the debates were being leaked to Clinton before hand. Halting the Sanders' campaign's access to DNC databases on bogus charges for nearly 2 days. In which one of his staffers, on his own accord, actually tried to gain access to a restricted data base. Rescinding a prior ban on corporate donations and accusing Sanders supporters of violence at the Nevada Convention.
The Democratic Party Has a Race Problem in the 2020 Election Harris’ appeals to the “Obama ...
altschmerz comments on Dec 20, 2019:
Normally I like Dahleen Glanton but she's way off base here. https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/dahleen-glanton/ct-dahleen-glanton-kamala-harris-black-woman-president-20191204-skyuncgwpzdrxc4x7x5u7ywhki-story.html
William_Mary replies on Dec 21, 2019:
Her problem was her time in California. Those who actually follow politics close enough to know her history there, or wise enough to research her when she stepped out into the national light, took pause on what they learned. We are beholden to the ignorant though when a vast number of us vote within their ignorance! Those who desire a woman president without intellectual knowledge of the woman, add African American to that in this case. Clinton in 2008 then again in 2016. Those willing to over look the history or trapped in the delusional reality painted by the establishment and main stream media flock to a conditioned social desire, rather than a well coordinated measure of acceptableness. I desire a country more of a socialist nature. Which in 2016 I believed Sanders was the one to begin leading us out of the inequality devastating our country today. Along with many other failing aspects we face today. But as the primary and debates of 2016 progressed it became apparent Sanders wasn't entirely putting up a legitimate attempt to fight for his supporters, himself, or the country. I began questioning him during the second debate, by the forth it was clear he didn't have a genuine heart. I'll end that there. You know the rest of the story as I now consider him just another political con artist. Her campaign ended because the DNC and democrats have created a field of over 20 candidates which spread out all those people I spoke of above. Some of them moving on due to discovery, some due to manipulation by the media and narrative control of the debates. Which include manufactured polling where people tend to a need to follow the fan wagon. Harris was essentially a cash cow out of the gate for the DNC anyways. The establishment wasn't going to allow her to become the president with Biden being the apparent chosen one for now. And her campaign was beginning to eat away at the money it brought in. She out lived her usefulness. And has been replaced with other potential establishment figures who in the case Biden falters can replace him.
Democrats combine impeachment and collaboration with Trump [wsws.
bobwjr comments on Dec 17, 2019:
Unreliable source
William_Mary replies on Dec 20, 2019:
@bobwjr thank you. As I thought, you can't come up with anything, other than rhetoric to prove you're a waste of time and proven yourself as an idiot. You're an idiot for asking me to rewrite the article, or any part of it, as prove the article is legitimate. If I thought the article lacked substance or legitimacy I wouldn't post it. So your essentially attacking me as a measure to some means. You're always a constant one liner of negativity who never offers any substantial debate in any forum you take a need to be heard on. Congratulations on outing yourself, again. I'm sure you get much of your desired notoriety from people just like yourself. How empty your life must be within such an uninformed sense of reality of delusion.
Democrats combine impeachment and collaboration with Trump [wsws.
bobwjr comments on Dec 17, 2019:
Unreliable source
William_Mary replies on Dec 17, 2019:
Prove it!
'Read Every Word of This': WaPo Investigation Reveals US Officials' Public Deception Campaign on ...
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Dec 10, 2019:
I think "The Afghanistan Papers" is propaganda. It's coming from a government organization and the head of that organization was appointed by Obama. Take for instance this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/...
William_Mary replies on Dec 17, 2019:
@Piece2YourPuzzle I figured I was reading it wrong. But had to ask to make sure :-)
What if I told you that the impeachment hearings are.
DenoPenno comments on Dec 15, 2019:
Ancient Aliens. Oh, my. What have I been missing?
William_Mary replies on Dec 16, 2019:
They're here.
What if I told you that the impeachment hearings are.
rogerbenham comments on Dec 15, 2019:
I'm wondering if Trump cannot take over all the Diebold voting machines to ensure he gets at least 2 out of every 3 votes.
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
@rogerbenham if we could just get more people to tun in to Hedges!
Reports are coming out today that the Washington Post won the release of documents detailing that ...
altschmerz comments on Dec 9, 2019:
If we used pictures from every civilian ever killed in one of these wars, we could compile a mosaic of every Senator in the country. https://ma.tt/2004/04/mosaic/
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
@altschmerz ok I missed the Onion part LOL. I'd have known not to take that so serious. But he's still a sick SOB!
What if I told you that the impeachment hearings are.
silverotter11 comments on Dec 15, 2019:
Damnit! Your posts are so fucking depressing! For 20 years many have known the level of corruption in both parties. The perfect example was back in the 2004 having a conversation with my twin, younger sister and my mom. I was stating facts, my younger sister was stating facts, we KNEW shit was ...
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
That's the very problem we are faced with today. In 2016 many thought the republicans were going to run Trump out of DC or keep him on a short leash if he attempted to do half the shit he has been doing. I told you so doesn't quite make me feel any better though. I seen them drooling at the mouth from the gate. And what the democrats are doing is feeding his supporters and the republican party the reasons to keep supporting him and move on with their agenda people like you and I knew was there from the beginning. What few have turned way, which is few, have been revitalized by the democratic party's actions. It will be a nothing short of a miracle for the democrats to win in 2020. Not that it would be any better. There is however a conspiracy going on now about some major events about to take place. It has to do with Trump's Space Force program. Which just got funded in the recent spending bill passing. Some recent patents having been applied for and acquired by the military on new technology involving space crafts and space travel. This technology also has the means to make life on this planet much better and cleaner if properly applied, not used as a profit generator. This Barbara Barrett https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_the_Air_Force and a representative from Alabama, I think it is, are trying to get some documents declassified on our interactions with aliens and a space program that's been operating for some time. I've been following Ancient Aliens for over 20 years and pour a vast amount of time in government cover ups. With the recent release of the 2004 air force videos and others , I think the lid is about to pop on all this. According to insiders this is going to depend on the Trump impeachment hearings and his reelection. But if you relate Trump's uncle John to all this and the theft of Tesla's work by him and the OSS it begins to add up. But I have a good deal of pause to give Trump any credit of good to come out of anything! Being this is such a far out there issue by most in society I'll quit there. But I've from 2016 have had the conjecture that Trump was planted on us for a reason. Maybe this is it? I'm just a nut with an overactive mind :-) though. Some of the stuff I recently viewed don't quite add up to what I understand either. Trump being played as a hero just doesn't fit my mind. By all senses he scares the shit out of me.
What if I told you that the impeachment hearings are.
rogerbenham comments on Dec 15, 2019:
I'm wondering if Trump cannot take over all the Diebold voting machines to ensure he gets at least 2 out of every 3 votes.
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
@rogerbenham well look at what just happened to Corbyn. He went through a manufactured smear campaign from the media, intelligence apparatuses, other parties, and even from within his own party. Now he's out! But just like Sanders he can only blame himself. He didn't muster up a legitimate fight with substance and allowed the establishment to walk all over him. You can only view this as I do with Sanders, a simple matter of compliance to the very people who are in control. I have no doubt he' will be greatly rewarded by some means.
What if I told you that the impeachment hearings are.
rogerbenham comments on Dec 15, 2019:
I'm wondering if Trump cannot take over all the Diebold voting machines to ensure he gets at least 2 out of every 3 votes.
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
There's no longer a need to take them over to that degree. He won without the popular vote in 2016. 3 million out if I remember right. With both parties purging voters it's fairly easy to fudge the numbers now. All they need to do now is get the polling companies to manufacture their methods to match the voting numbers within a 5 to 6 percent margin. Few will question the outcome and few will hold either party accountable. Each party has significant reason and evidence to challenge and accuse the other for voter fraud and tampering but, crickets. And when it comes to the American people, most are ignorant to it or only complain when their chosen one loses. In the case of the 2016 Sanders scam, the courts ruled that the DNC has the right to chose their candidate as a private entity. They aren't held to abide by their own rules. Essentially that means the republican party can do the same thing. So if the general election was to be caught cheating the voters guess what the courts are going to say? Ask Florida how that goes? The US Supreme Court illegally handed Bush a win before all ballots were counted. Later finding out the state started destroying ballots to cover up the growing lose to Gore. As I repeat often here, the only way we will change and exterminate the corruption in DC is to mass exodus the 2 party establishment and unify behind the green party or sep. But the tribalism engaged on the public by MSM is overwhelming to defeat.
Reports are coming out today that the Washington Post won the release of documents detailing that ...
altschmerz comments on Dec 9, 2019:
If we used pictures from every civilian ever killed in one of these wars, we could compile a mosaic of every Senator in the country. https://ma.tt/2004/04/mosaic/
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
@altschmerz for fucks sake! The girls smiling from ear to ear as they glorify this war mongering despot makes me sick to my mind. Look at these works of art as they scream out the sickness within this POS and they do it with a smile and glee totally missing the message it sends. His own words, having nightmares, even went over their heads. There's so much wrong with this that I'm either mentally sick to see it this way or they are for not.
America’s torturers and their co-conspirators must be prosecuted [wsws.
altschmerz comments on Dec 9, 2019:
Before Bush, we used to ship prisoners out to other countries to be tortured, didn’t we? The pretense is gone.
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
@altschmerz I thought they were coming here to train our police. But that's semantics. Either way it's not good!
Reports are coming out today that the Washington Post won the release of documents detailing that ...
altschmerz comments on Dec 9, 2019:
If we used pictures from every civilian ever killed in one of these wars, we could compile a mosaic of every Senator in the country. https://ma.tt/2004/04/mosaic/
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
Wonderful! Someone created a sociopaths dream portrait to reflect on when he gets bored and can drink to on his accomplishments. Is this a compilation of Bush's own paintings? I know he was passing his time in doing paintings of servicemen a while back. The sick fuck probably gets his drunk on and orgasms to it.
America’s torturers and their co-conspirators must be prosecuted [wsws.
altschmerz comments on Dec 9, 2019:
Before Bush, we used to ship prisoners out to other countries to be tortured, didn’t we? The pretense is gone.
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
I honestly can't say without it being pure conjecture out of ignorance. But if you consider Central American wars from the Reagan era and the information that came out from the governments they installed in those countries, we had a hand in torture and mass murders. What makes the difference if ship to another country of done in country? The paramilitary death squads unleashed in those countries were brought to the US for training and sent back to commit horrible crimes on humanity. Our government is still doing this today in military camps in the US. Recently it backfired on them with A Saudi air force trainee committing a shooting in one of those camps. If I remember right the radio claimed we have some 300 Saudi's in the US training on air force bases. Essentially Trojan Horses to go with the White Helmets and top commanders of ISIS and other terrorist groups transplanted to the US as Syria pushed them into a corner of their country. All these people and groups are basically of the same ideology of Sunni Wahhabism. Another 9/11 is immanent? As for sweeping off the streets and transporting to other countries, my first recollection was with the start of the Afghanistan war.
'Read Every Word of This': WaPo Investigation Reveals US Officials' Public Deception Campaign on ...
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Dec 10, 2019:
I think "The Afghanistan Papers" is propaganda. It's coming from a government organization and the head of that organization was appointed by Obama. Take for instance this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/afghanistan-papers/afghanistan-war-confidential-documents/...
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
I'll go propaganda to the point of distraction. Which another post on this issue was made clear on that and the timing. In which it was claimed the timing was a result to rush this out as the impeachment hearings were kicking in to smear Trump. I made the statement in that post about it (paraphrasing) falling back onto 2 prior administrations also as mere collateral damage that would be easily soluble in time. Basically I was using WAPO's own discovery against them knowing they aren't a source to be trusted. And most likely have a hidden agenda. Showing truth while also creating a conditioning narrative. So what is the agenda of the propaganda you see in this then if you don't think the Afghanistan war has been a total waste and lie? You haven't seen this information slowly coming out about Afghanistan over the past 18 years that alternative journalist have been bringing light to? I agree it will become superficial as stated above and the other post, as I stated in other words. The WAPO is relying on a population with a short attention span and will go back to business as usual immediately. But at least we have a more precise record of the truth to use. We just need to decipher the agenda from an questionable source.
The Most Significant Afghanistan Papers Revelation Is How Difficult They Were To Make Public The ...
QuidamOutrepont comments on Dec 15, 2019:
My brother is in the Canadian Army. He spent three missions, totaling two years in Afghanistan. I always had mixed emotions about what he was doing there, like if the bad guys were on both sides of that war.
William_Mary replies on Dec 15, 2019:
I'm sorry! I imagine that is a struggle you have to face from within. While I have no family that I know of in that aspect, I, like many I would imagine, struggle on the patriot aspect. For the record though, my intent here is never about bringing shame on anyone for their service or bringing shame on our country, or anyone else's country, for the imperialistic manufactured warring agendas being played out. My intentions are purely about changing the criminals leading us down that path. PTSD is probably a result of many coming home feeling the same from forced involvement. I've worked with some who explained their discontent with their time in Iraq and Afghanistan. As soon as 2005 I was getting stories from those who served in Iraq and seen horrors and felt the confusion of purpose. The reasons are endless, but mirrored by many. Over 18 years we have had all the evidences leaked out of what would lead to this, which the MSM has never covered. Veterans groups who speak out about it, families angered and speaking out, 9/11 families, will not be allowed. They can't get a platform but they are out there. And to get a platform would mean tolerating a growing outcry which would cause more families to join a movement to quell the warring and bring awareness to those still trapped in the illusion. Or those who are there but fear the backlash of the minions without a sense of sincere empathy within their fake patriotism. And those are the one's I attempt to speak for. I glad your brother made it home safe and hope he survived from the worst many came back with.
US government drops case against Max Blumenthal after jailing journalist on false charges As the ...
silverotter11 comments on Dec 8, 2019:
GFDI! This administration is the worst! I *KNOW* both sides are bad but this bull shit has got to stop. the trump people made their stand clear when they went after Kathy Griffin for the **fake** bloody severed head photo. She was put on the terrorist watch list and was threaten with being ...
William_Mary replies on Dec 8, 2019:
More disturbing is the character of The Secret Service throughout this Venezuelan Embassy adventure, from start to finish. It has become an occurring event in so many instances now, even outside of this case, where they are seemingly biased in favor of nationalism, turning their support towards actually being accomplices in their actions. This is clearly the case throughout the entire Embassy quagmire. Let this sink in for a moment! The president doesn't appoint who's in the SS! <<
The Neoliberal Scam: Public Money for Private Playgrounds TRNN takes an in-depth look at ...
rogerbenham comments on Dec 6, 2019:
How else does one maintain one's wealth without ensuring that one has it and the serfs don't?
William_Mary replies on Dec 7, 2019:
@rogerbenham https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/12/04/massive-leak-data-reveals-money-hiding-secrets-superrich-and-only-beginning
The Neoliberal Scam: Public Money for Private Playgrounds TRNN takes an in-depth look at ...
rogerbenham comments on Dec 6, 2019:
How else does one maintain one's wealth without ensuring that one has it and the serfs don't?
William_Mary replies on Dec 7, 2019:
Well they have a system of a few measures of doing so. All built around us in which we are forced to fund in most aspects.
How Fascists Took Power in Bolivia—and How They Can Be Defeated [ghionjournal.com]
rogerbenham comments on Dec 5, 2019:
The only hope in this world is the complete defeat of fascists and neo-liberals.
William_Mary replies on Dec 6, 2019:
@rogerbenham I'm referencing the German Nazi period to the present us now here in the US. Well, actually, add any westernized country going right today like us to that also. We're no longer untied, divided we die is seemingly in our future for some generation of ours. Potentially a slow death for many generations at best.
How Fascists Took Power in Bolivia—and How They Can Be Defeated [ghionjournal.com]
rogerbenham comments on Dec 5, 2019:
The only hope in this world is the complete defeat of fascists and neo-liberals.
William_Mary replies on Dec 5, 2019:
That's a battle of suppression that can only be won within knowledge. Unfortunately, they are winning that battle with false narratives. And at the moment they have the only nuclear weapon that's beating us into the ground that delivers the narratives. That would be the main stream media. Until we get people to understand this we will continue to move towards a world built for them. At some point towards that world even their middle and lower class supporters will then also become victims like the rest of us, unless they sell their soles to it. There are no good guys left to save Germany! We are the new Germany! We either save ourselves or die divided.
There are different numbers wandering around for the percentage of folks self-identifying as poly, ...
William_Mary comments on Dec 5, 2019:
I have to agree with Cutie down there, to a degree. But I believe she is vastly correct. Utah might have a lower case scenario within the vast Mormon beliefs. And I would imagine practicing times would be another relevance to the numbers. And of course the numbers depending on how one would come by ...
William_Mary replies on Dec 5, 2019:
@DavidDuhon I give you Catholic girls for an example. :-) Tell me you haven't heard or seen the behavior of these girls being quite sexual including bisexuality? At this day and age religion has lost a great deal of its oppression and suppression methods, within the youth especially.
Attacking The Source: The Establishment Loyalist’s Favorite Online Tactic You find yourself ...
DavidDuhon comments on Dec 5, 2019:
One of the key characteristics of a conspiracy is its need for secrecy, and the more evil the conspiracy and the more powerful its people, the better it will be hidden.
William_Mary replies on Dec 5, 2019:
@DavidDuhon well, that's not particularly correct either. Take Caitlin Johnstone's reference used in the article to 9/11 and the illegal invasion of Iraq for an example. While the hype to war was going on to that open pubic conspiracy many were denouncing it. Chris Hedges lost his, or was basically forced out, of his job at the New York Times over his dissent towards that conspiracy being played out. I think Rick Sanchez was another victim to that, now on RT also. That war took a number of journalist out of their careers to look for another avenue to do their work. I embarrassingly admit to having fallen prey to that false narrative myself. Being at the time I was a faithful MSNBC follower. Plus I fell victim to the the History Channels documentary on Iraq which also was a conditioning false narrative propaganda tool. In which they used another common weapon, repetitive cycling. If I remember right the Discovery Channel also payed that same documentary a couple of times. I was among the brainwashed population that fell for the same bullshit going on now in Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran, Russia, Ukraine, Bolivia, etc. These are not going on in secret. These are publicly open false conspiracies being waged on the public with the establishment using their corporate tool, the main stream media, to spread a false theory. I would consider this to be about as large as it gets! It's only secret to the extent our MSM doesn't cover the real facts. Which now introduce the initial narrative of the article I posted, how conspiracy theories become weaponized. So as we go out into social media land and attempt to draw attention to the facts, we get labeled to the bad nature its been conditioned to now be. I'm not attempting to make this personal by any means, or be negative. But you've now went another route with your initial reply and still seem to be conditioned to only one manor conspiracy theory can be possibly used, and you're leaning heavily to the bad and secretive. I'm simply attempting to get you to give both the good and bad an equal playing field as to determine which is which as to differentiate which one is being applied. Once we get people to see this light then they can more likely see when the publicly open conspiracies are con jobs. Then getting them to more reliable news sources can be more easily applied.
Attacking The Source: The Establishment Loyalist’s Favorite Online Tactic You find yourself ...
DavidDuhon comments on Dec 5, 2019:
One of the key characteristics of a conspiracy is its need for secrecy, and the more evil the conspiracy and the more powerful its people, the better it will be hidden.
William_Mary replies on Dec 5, 2019:
Only if the conspiracy theory you're working on is bad with intent to do harm. You seem to be trapped in believing all conspiracy theories are bad?
Attacking The Source: The Establishment Loyalist’s Favorite Online Tactic You find yourself ...
Cutiebeauty comments on Dec 5, 2019:
I think you're a conspiracy theorist but that's not a bad thing.. Is it?
William_Mary replies on Dec 5, 2019:
We're all conspiracy theorist. It's in our nature. We all have theories we dream up, we conspire to enact on them. But that's the point. The CIA using the media has taken a natural human trait and turned it into a weapon. Engineers, scientist, inventors, etc, have theories, they conspire to make them a reality. "I think you're a conspiracy theorist but that's not a bad thing" you provided me a theory, did you not? What that means to you can only be in the means as to how you deliver it. So today as to yesteryear. Today when people on many occasions deliver that term it instantly resembles a bad thing. But yesteryear it was merely 2 words put together meaning someone was using their mind and abilities to create.
Pro Tip: Mentally Replace All Uses Of “Conspiracy Theorist” With “Iraq Rememberer” The ...
moosepucky comments on Dec 5, 2019:
The wars in the middle east are a direct result of the victors in 1918 dividing up the pre-war European colonial interests so that everyone on the winning side got their share of that regions natural resources to fuel their wealthy classes recovery. The division was based only on profits and a ...
William_Mary replies on Dec 5, 2019:
While I'll agree with much of that, what then do you relate our interference in many countries? We are just another brutal dictator for resources? Justified by what means? Many of these areas in the Middle East had a population in which many religions mingled together with no to few issues. The relevant issues being extremist factions that created strife, often at the behest of western interest. Syria would be staunchly relevant to your reply being it was a area of desired control by a hand full of secular people. It was in a sense a gateway from one region to the other where a vast mix of people used the region for trade and desired control. Assad surely was left with a quagmire for a region. That struggle still exist today and will for some time under current measures being applied. Diplomacy within a unified society of nations to you isn't an option I take it. We're just not advanced enough to shred our primal instincts yet? So we should just go with the flow of the ruling class agenda? I'm curious to what lead you to this when the narrative of the post is on conspiracy theorist.
Democrats’ report confirms anti-Russia axis of impeachment inquiry [wsws.
silverotter11 comments on Dec 4, 2019:
What a morass. If they go after trump for the human rights violations against immigrations, illegally diverting funds, etc. that standard could then be used against the dems. Since we already both sides are deep in dirt they are playing it safe. Huge sign, so cynical but human nature is what it ...
William_Mary replies on Dec 4, 2019:
I wish we could get the establishment supporters to see both sides are both criminals. Why can't they see this, only that the other side they oppose are alone in the crimes? It's so bad now they can't even see where the crimes are being broke and the constitution degraded. What we do to other countries under both parties are not only against international law but also against the constitution. It's like religion where everyone can make the scriptures to what ever means serve their purpose. The constitution is the same. And they all ignore the facts when priest and politicians break their own rules. Both entities feeding off society like cockroaches and rats.
Capitalism’s Suicidal Trajectory Those who live in the West only hear one side of the story –...
rogerbenham comments on Dec 4, 2019:
This guy's writing is very confusing. One wonders if he was drunk when he wrote it.
William_Mary replies on Dec 4, 2019:
I didn't find it as confusing as I did contradictory in some areas. Maybe I should say it was unbalanced and lacking in historic avenues. But as a whole it got a good message out especially towards the end.
What’s to Come in the Banquet for Billionaires, Also Known as 2020 Democratic Primary?
Drew69 comments on Dec 2, 2019:
Wasn't that why the Democrats are Crooks like Catherine Pugh flood the runner-ups with Democrats to divide the vote Hillary Clinton and Benghazi Obama and all the crimes he's done a Democrat is just basically a crook they seek to control the house and they seek to control Our Lives look how they ...
William_Mary replies on Dec 3, 2019:
Priceless? Is when someone comes into this group with the labels skeptic and freethinker on their profile and go on to completely abandon both in their comments, as they attempt to poorly deliver their opinion. I'm not by any means a grammar enforcement type of person, I have my own issues within that arena in which I'm amused by being addressed on, seeing others addressed on it, but when it comes to that above it's hard to comprehend what the message is. But lets address what I can comprehend. You're obviously good at noticing all the bad issues with democrats while ignoring the same issues with republicans. Maybe you were living under a rock when Obama was being sworn in while the top republicans were in the Capital devising their own plan to block everything he would attempt to do to make him a one term president. You seemingly missed the 2016 republican primary and their facade of 27 candidates which lead by the main stream media propelled Trump to the front within billions of free air time, lead by your dear Fox news, for Clinton and the DNC. In which that combination alone should give you good cause to question both parties and candidates. Which is one of the agendas of this group, dissent against both corrupt parties. As you go on to bash Sanders who was the most legitimate candidate one could possibly see at the time. Seriously!?! How is it people like you can see when one side is corrupt but miss when the side you support are the same in mirror fashion, often, obviously, in collaboration with each other? Giving you no right by any means to be throwing the word hypocrite around! Socialism is a bad thing when we want it to work more towards society rather than as a welfare check to corporations and bankers depleting our treasury and social programs!?!
Thanksgiving Is Dedicated to Erasing the Ruthlessness of English Settlers [truthout.
altschmerz comments on Dec 1, 2019:
*In many Native communities, everyday life is about giving thanks, and about being in good relations, rather than capitalist excess.* In my waning days of Christianity, I was attending a mostly Filipino church with a Filipino pastor. (It was mostly Filipino because the congregation was mostly his...
William_Mary replies on Dec 1, 2019:
Many immigrants now vastly come from the right of their countries who supported the opposition to overthrow their democratically elected governments. Fleeing as the chaos would start. In Venezuela's case, and much of Latin America, most of these people are of the lighter skinned population that are descendants of the Europeans who initialized the colonization in the past having benefited from such. This is where we get the most false rhetoric on comments of dissenting views when we visit certain sites attempting to get the truth out. They're not supporting their country so much as they are supporting the capitalist systems wanting to continue to tear them apart, or make their way in.
AMERICA’S CRISIS – DEATH OF LOGIC & OBJECTIVITY The most dire challenge that America faces is...
FearlessFly comments on Nov 29, 2019:
Unless you buy-into Trump's "fake news" and "enemy of the state", MSM isn't **wrong** (I concede some bias in all media) -- especially when multiple sources have the same facts. I look for good journalism and advocate for installing this browser addon : https://www.newsguardtech.com/
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
@FearlessFly yes, deep fake is going to be a real concern! It's going to make it hard on us to get people out of the illusion they're already in. Time is rather imperative to turn as many as possible before that technology is in full scale mode!
AMERICA’S CRISIS – DEATH OF LOGIC & OBJECTIVITY The most dire challenge that America faces is...
FearlessFly comments on Nov 29, 2019:
Unless you buy-into Trump's "fake news" and "enemy of the state", MSM isn't **wrong** (I concede some bias in all media) -- especially when multiple sources have the same facts. I look for good journalism and advocate for installing this browser addon : https://www.newsguardtech.com/
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
@FearlessFly in my group here on the welcome page I provide a list of sources that cover about every aspect of our society towards understanding our politics and the world in a different light. Towards the bottom of this page above the videos is enough resources to give anyone a start in seeing a completely different view of the world and a more factual news base. https://agnostic.com/group/unempire/post/418901/welcome-to-out-of-the-illusion-im-just-a-slave-in-a-world-raised-by-kings-and-queens-who-used The hardest part of these sources for some people are those so engulfed in the establishment rhetoric when it comes to my RT America links. But these links provide sources and information that our main stream media will not cover under the facade of it being a Russian government entity. The Americans on these programs have been provided a place to get better news out to us that no MSM will allow in public. I challenge anyone to use them and attempt to provide a debate of substance against the factual information on them or any of those on the list. This list is my most trusted sources. Rating is needed? An ignorant population is easy for conditioning. Victim to perception management and a manipulated narrative. Our present society has been purposely created to take time from us to properly educate ourselves to the realistic happenings at home and around the globe. Social media and the cell phone everyone is addicted to are tools they use against us to that nature. Most people aren't going to take the proper time to put into finding real news, and any algorithm created for such is going to be just another tool used against us. Why I might say this? Where and who is going to provide them? It will be the very tech companies and media floor mates already in control working against us. Under direction of the government and billionaires who own the government. If you put together the sources as I described above, they will in turn direct you to the false narratives within their work quite often to compare with their work. Often providing links and information they use to their own narratives. We can not rely on the ruling class to do our wok for us! We must unite as the working class and educate each other. One person at a time, filters down the line.
AMERICA’S CRISIS – DEATH OF LOGIC & OBJECTIVITY The most dire challenge that America faces is...
St-Sinner comments on Nov 29, 2019:
But is this the first time America is facing challenges? Has it not emerged from serious challenges before in its history and come out shining and better than before?
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
@St-Sinner I don't think you and I are to far off. We just don't end our lines the same at times. Slightly seeing some things a bit different.
AMERICA’S CRISIS – DEATH OF LOGIC & OBJECTIVITY The most dire challenge that America faces is...
St-Sinner comments on Nov 29, 2019:
But is this the first time America is facing challenges? Has it not emerged from serious challenges before in its history and come out shining and better than before?
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
@St-Sinner Hillary as a hero? Hell no! She at one point falsely made herself one though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHO1vo762c
AMERICA’S CRISIS – DEATH OF LOGIC & OBJECTIVITY The most dire challenge that America faces is...
St-Sinner comments on Nov 29, 2019:
But is this the first time America is facing challenges? Has it not emerged from serious challenges before in its history and come out shining and better than before?
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
@St-Sinner our pride is in the wrong places! We've lost our innovation! We worship and glorify the wrong things and the wrong people! To many have been conditioned by the media to be such!
AMERICA’S CRISIS – DEATH OF LOGIC & OBJECTIVITY The most dire challenge that America faces is...
St-Sinner comments on Nov 29, 2019:
But is this the first time America is facing challenges? Has it not emerged from serious challenges before in its history and come out shining and better than before?
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
What's better? This video brings me to tears every time I view it. And I can argue some points he brings up also. And since this video/ movie, we have fallen, been dragged a lot further down the rabbit hole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs
AMERICA’S CRISIS – DEATH OF LOGIC & OBJECTIVITY The most dire challenge that America faces is...
FearlessFly comments on Nov 29, 2019:
Unless you buy-into Trump's "fake news" and "enemy of the state", MSM isn't **wrong** (I concede some bias in all media) -- especially when multiple sources have the same facts. I look for good journalism and advocate for installing this browser addon : https://www.newsguardtech.com/
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
Yea, I'm weary of a company that has certain types of people as owners/founders. L. Gordon Crovitz has a long history of corporate relationships along with being a major part of The Wall Street Journal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Gordon_Crovitz Along with various other questionable ties. When most of the positive notes are coming from the sources I already don't trust, well, red flag number two. { Microsoft Corporation is sponsoring the illiteracy initiative that will decapitate real learning and news literacy by regulating all information that’s searchable on every smart device in every middle school, high school, university, library, and educational organization in the nation, soon.} If it isn't already bad enough in these institutions, the establishment is in full mode towards making it worse. The above from https://www.newsguardwatch.com/2019-01-17-newsguard-organization-to-censor-independent-media-ties-monsanto-propagandists.html As is {Mainstream media and fake news organization kings, like CNN, New York Times, Boston Globe, Politico, Forbes.com, and Washington Post, all tried their best to manipulate the narrative for Hillary Clinton’s camp so they could rob America’s POTUS election, and since then they’ve been trying so hard for the past two years to spread the fake news narratives of Russia-Trump collusion, climate change, vaccine safety, and scary GMO “technology” all to no avail. So, now, they want to go global with a news filter that will label every intelligent news source as discredited. Get ready.} Then as I read further into the article it backs up the concerns I've already began to have and adds more insight mentioning the one name that already gave me a red flag. {This would include the wife-beating, character assassin Jon Entine (who got fired from Forbes after Natural News exposed him), L. Gordon Crovitz (another AEI, Wall Street, Leftist war hawk) who’s the editor and contributor to books published by the Monsanto-front-group called American Enterprise Institute, Tom Ridge (W. Bush’s crook for Homeland Security), along with power-hungry ex-CIA and ex-NSA hucksters, who now join the NG fake news oligarchy “tech” team.} Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsGuard statess WikiLeaks who has never had to retract a story or their been called on false information is labels as unreliable!?! Seriously!?! That speaks volumes! And brings me cause to stop my search on them any further! Personally, I don't need anyone or anything to label my news sources. I've been following the political realm of news long enough to know how to use the sources I use. Which sites are the most reliable and the one's to beware of by certain journalist with multiple writers and or journalist on certain sites. The key to ...
Democratic freedoms aside, many nations in the world but particularly the U.
FearlessFly comments on Nov 28, 2019:
. . . from the sub-title : Democratic freedoms aside I see no reason why those freedoms should/need be set-aside : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handover_of_Hong_Kong
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
When you're only free due to constrained participation and compliance to criminality around you, where in is the democracy? Did you perhaps miss the 2016 elections where all sense of democracy was strangled by both establishment parties and the main stream media? Where the DNC openly admitted in court ,via their lawyers, they have the right to chose their chosen candidate. As they spearheaded a fraudulent primary with the help of the media to quell Sanders campaign. Miss the circus of 27 participants within the republican party primary in which the media at the behest of the DNC and Clinton to propel Trump to the front. The degree of voter purging and oppression of independent voters, uncounted ballets, horrific confusion at caucuses filled with corruption. This is the same system that is working in Hong Kong supporting and funding those protest. A mix of both top republican and democrat politicians, US intelligence, the Trump administration, a number of NGO's (non government organizations) who have a history of spreading freedom and democracy. Ask the world how well that usually works out. Since WWII, not so well. As I attempted to communicate in the initial post, Hong Kong is not what the world establishment and deep state have conditioned the world into believing it is. It's essentially 427 square miles of corporate corruption that went from 3,000 inhabitants scattered in a dozen fishing villages to 7,460,918 since the British took it over. The last thing these people are planning to install there would be freedom and democracy in the sense most American's believe they have. Poverty is high and housing is high cost. What's going on in Hong Kong has nothing to do with freedom or democracy. It has everything to do with who controls the corporate and banking entities and the benefits that come with them. From both China and abroad.
The ‘Whistleblower’ and the Politicization of Intelligence The whistleblower complaint has ...
Sticks48 comments on Nov 28, 2019:
I haven't read anything so stupid since the Bible.
William_Mary replies on Nov 29, 2019:
@Leetx yet none of them went to jail due to the narrative of the investigations. They were convicted of crimes other than and outside of the fake Russiagate probe. In which it was the duty of the DOJ and congressional process of approval of Trumps administration that should have prevented these people from "his inner circle" from being appointed in the first place. So the "fact" of the matter is that you should be asking why our government allowed these people in, in the first place. If you don't think they had and knew all this information at hand in the first place, I have the proverbial bridge to sell you. No, 17 intelligence agencies did not say this. The "fact" of the matter is that a combination of people from 4 intelligence agencies worked on the DNC data base to determine that. {NYT Finally Retracts Russia-gate Canard} https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/29/nyt-finally-retracts-russia-gate-canard/ Your "facts" were exposed to be lies from the work of the VIPS long before NYT's finally retracted their story. Which you can find that retraction story within the article I provided for you above. Which was posted in this group some time ago. The "facts" you believe from the DNC and their main stream media have mostly all been proven to be false. The DNC was not hacked, it was most likely a leak. As best, all evidence in the data base lacks evidence of a hack. Meaning it was either a leak or the data base was manipulated taking the path in to the data base out to cover someones tracks. ( US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims) https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/12/us-intel-vets-dispute-russia-hacking-claims/ (Hillary Clinton’s Deceptive Blame-Shifting) https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/01/hillary-clintons-deceptive-blame-shifting/ More on this from Robert Parry above discrediting the 17 intelligence agencies false claims. The "fact" that you still believe this falsehood today is quite frankly very disturbing! I suggest you spend more time here where we provide more intellectual and factual news sources. As far as Trump's bankruptcies and family concerns. You direct them towards me as though I am a supporter of his and support his actions. I assure you I am not and do not! I despise Trump and republicans every bit as I despise democrats. Maybe you should visit our welcoming page so you might get a sense of what this group is about! It might help you understand our posting members better before you go making more poor assumptions. Thank you for visiting! I hope you spend more time here to learn about the negative effects of empire building. No disrespect meant. But quite frankly you seem to have a need to bring in the upcoming new year with a better group to help you on this matter.
The ‘Whistleblower’ and the Politicization of Intelligence The whistleblower complaint has ...
Sticks48 comments on Nov 28, 2019:
I haven't read anything so stupid since the Bible.
William_Mary replies on Nov 28, 2019:
When you make such a remark it only leaves us asking ourselves how much intellect you might hold. Are you talking about the initial article I posted with Scott Ritter's narrative, my comments, or both. Or any of the links provided in the article providing his lead towards his developed opinion and narrative on the issue? All you leave us with is a seemingly attempt to be negative without the intelligence to provide reason towards questioning the information. Leaving me with the conclusion you're only here to dismay others to seek information and knowledge. Your neither benefiting us as a group or yourself. You're essentially an empty vessel with no use. Please do us a favor and move on if this is all you can offer us. I don't put my time into this for people like you to come waste it.
Establishment Dems Demands Trump be Impeached, but Not for War Crimes UkraineGate has so far ...
Cutiebeauty comments on Nov 27, 2019:
What does "establishment dems "mean?
William_Mary replies on Nov 28, 2019:
rogerbenham pretty much sums it up. Establishment is a referral often used towards the 2 party system we have in the US, especially by dissenting opposition to their ways of governance. Deep State would be the reference towards the ruling class the establishment works for. The ruling class is made up of the most wealthy in the country, corporations, bankers, wall street, some add the intelligence agencies to this also. The ruling class are vastly the major beneficiary entities to our current laws and passing legislature today. Often with corporations playing a part in developing our laws today through lobbying and pay to play schemes. The energy corporations and healthcare industries are vastly known as major players in this that make the news most often. Chemical companies are among the top also. Banking institutes. If you follow politics closely enough you'll find people from these entities in every presidential administration who end up having great influence on every presidents policies for the past several decades. These entities manage to get their millionaire and billionaire people into administrations to curve policies to their benefit then return to their profession to reap the rewards when that administration ends or they achieve their goals. In which they often do (achieve their goals) unless they are caught on unethical issues or other questionable matters are brought out about them. Almost every president in recent history ends up with someone from a banking institute or wall street as their financial adviser. They leave a very lucrative million dollar a year profession to serve in a administration for a couple of years or more, then go back to that profession and returning to their yearly income again almost certain to get millions in bonuses for their time in the administration and accomplishments. Trump has the most questionable administration in the history of our country in every aspect of our governance! In which both establishment parties allowed to go into place with little lip service in compliance. What little progress we were making towards the environment, education, homelessness, poverty, housing, veterans, healthcare, immigration, add your concerns here, we are now going backwards because of these types of ruling class people and entities.
Chris Hedges: Princeton or Harvard Are Schools that Have Always Existed to Train the Ruling Elites ...
altschmerz comments on Nov 27, 2019:
Lots of great links here! As far as search engines go, this one isn’t bad: https://www.startpage.com/
William_Mary replies on Nov 28, 2019:
I'll give it a try.
Yes, Ukraine interference in the 2016 presidential election Meddling in the 2016 election by ...
silverotter11 comments on Nov 24, 2019:
Ya know what *I* am tired of hearing about? The whole fucking thing. I have known for YEARS both sides are corrupt, do we want to talk about *levels* of corruption? It is more than clear the Republicans get caught, outed and jailed way more than the Democrats. WHY is that? BOTH sides take ...
William_Mary replies on Nov 24, 2019:
You know my take on it. But America hasn't had enough of the game they're trapped in to exodus the establishment. I have to keep repeating these things to try and get the message out as new people come into the group. I know it's old to people like you and I, but it has to be said for them. I highly appreciate your help doing it! I wish I had 100 of you here!
Best of times throughout the holidays!...
rogerbenham comments on Nov 24, 2019:
All fine except this whole concept of holidays! I retired from paid employment in 1982 and like many a housewife, I do not have days off. I suppose that I do not have days on either. I never really have any real idea what I will be doing the next day, often not much in the morning for the day ...
William_Mary replies on Nov 24, 2019:
We'll have to agree to disagree. That was an excellent rant.
What’s to Come in the Banquet for Billionaires, Also Known as 2020 Democratic Primary?
altschmerz comments on Nov 24, 2019:
Before clicking on your article I saw on the news that Bloomberg has officially joined the shitshow. Nice going DNC, we're going to have another win for Chump next year. The people who talk about politics the most seem to know the least!
William_Mary replies on Nov 24, 2019:
OYE!
Yes, Ukraine interference in the 2016 presidential election Meddling in the 2016 election by ...
GreatNani comments on Nov 24, 2019:
People do not like change. They prefer to bury their heads in the sand, or just go about their lives with no real thought as long as their daily life remains the same. In terms of the media, many either watch Fox news which is not really news or do the daily MSM crap. It is just human nature to want...
William_Mary replies on Nov 24, 2019:
As each year goes by, those crumbling communities outside our own keep getting closer. Eventually this will overrun into our communities. Are they so blind and conditioned they can't see or understand this? Those in large metropolitan areas can't exist without noticing the hoards of homeless now growing within their sights! Have they no clue that this will effect their children in the future? I don't like change either. I'm quite comfortable for the time being. But I have empathy for my fellow mankind. I say this as one who daily notes to myself, humans suck, and society is profoundly sick. I hate to leave my home to deal with society. But if I refuse to see what's happening to it I can't possibly expect it to become better. So I speak out where and when I can.
The Impeachment Pantomime The political theatrics that begin Wednesday raise several questions.
Jolanta comments on Nov 17, 2019:
How many politicians are you aware of that are in jail for corruption?
William_Mary replies on Nov 18, 2019:
@jorj thank you jorj. I'm just trying to get people to think outside of the box that main stream media has so many trapped in. A lot of people just shake their head in compliance when discussing politics not knowing the full truth which just allows the shit to continue to roll down hill. There's so much more MSM followers don't get with their information and it's seemingly up to people like us to get it out. We have to keep trying to get the great work these alternative journalist put their lives and privacy on the line for out. If we can turn one person at a time, maybe they can turn another.

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