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silverotter11 comments on Jul 29, 2019:
Do I need to repeat myself? Again for the cheap seats - there is no 2 party system. Our government is big corporate, replace all the stars on the flag with $. Uncle Sam wears an Armani suit, Louis Vuitton Manhattan Richelieu shoes and solid gold bling.
William_Mary replies on Jul 30, 2019:
replace all the stars on the flag with $ That is priceless!
I joined this group assuming independent sources meant unbiased.
CuriosityExtant comments on Jul 29, 2019:
The "establishment" does not want us to know the truth... Here's the roots of this complex problem, but even this is not "in a nut shell": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine#Opposition
William_Mary replies on Jul 29, 2019:
@adaptable1958 exactly. Along with Bill Clinton and our representatives creating legislature that set the tone for all media to be monopolized by 6 billionaires, and or companies, they now control the content of about 90% of the news you see and hear. TV, radio, and now newspapers. These corporate giants of our news rely on corporations adds and various other technologies and support to survive. It's very rare for them to attack these corporations as they rely on them for their survival. Same goes for politicians. As long as they promote the agenda for the establishment, all goes well. Which is why when a certain journalist goes against the grain, they get cut out, if they don't choose to leave on their own. You might find the story of Robert Parry of interest. IN MEMORIAM ROBERT PARRY (1949-2018) https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/28/robert-parrys-legacy-and-the-future-of-consortiumnews/ He left main stream media and created the first internet news site in 1995. His plight and trials were 2 decades ahead of where we are at today. And we still can't get the American people to understand this :-(
RussiaGate as Organized Distraction Oliver Boyd-Barrett looks at who benefits from having the ...
WayneDalton comments on Jul 29, 2019:
I have been duped most of my life as I have vpted for dems in the foolish belief that they actually cared😠!
William_Mary replies on Jul 29, 2019:
You're not alone. Right up to and through 2 elections I made excuses for Obama. Then fell for Sanders after thinking he was the dream team for a decade. No more! Look at it this way. A good number of Americans are still living in the illusion under both the republican and democratic parties. As Chris Hedges says, squeaking we must. https://youtu.be/FyR0CSDxjkY
Time value of money disappears In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max and Stacy discuss the ...
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jul 28, 2019:
This has always been the nature of our economic system. Whenever you have interest there is a certain point where the debt can't be paid off because of the interest. I think right now we're only able to pay off the interest. Anyone from the beginning of the system with half a brain could have ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 28, 2019:
Your last paragraph relates to my theory of the UK possibly still being the head of this state of being. Along with our "founding fathers" transformation to the new world, also came the capitalist system they left behind. As it was then breaking out of a merchant class type of system and transforming towards capitalism. http://www.solfed.org.uk/a-s-history/unit-1-the-origins-of-capitalism (ironically, after centuries of war, Britain finally lost her superpower economic status to a former colony and a close friend – the USA). One would play hard to convince me that, that friendship isn't strongly relative to today with the City of London's power still calling the shots in our own city of London, Wall Street.
______!!!!Equifax Might Owe You $125 for Its Massive Data Breach.
silverotter11 comments on Jul 28, 2019:
Well, I went ahead and opted for the credit monitoring, as it appears my info was breached. I'll be on the look out to see if anything untoward occurs now that I've given up my last six digits on the claim site. Damn someone's cooking breakfast and it's making me hungry, somethings are more ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 28, 2019:
Yea I said the same thing to Mary after I found out from the other article that we most likely will not see the $250.
The Great Reckoning From a vantage point in the not-too-distant future Andrew J.
callmedubious comments on Jul 25, 2019:
a british economist wrote a book called the "Great Reckoning" 30 yrs ago. according to him we would have had a financial collapse by now. as depressing as it is to think about it the powers that be could keep this corrupt financial, political system going for more decades.
William_Mary replies on Jul 28, 2019:
@callmedubious you've been heard again, in your domineering ways. Congratulations! My hats off to you! Now I must go before you drag me down to your level. I'd say it has been interesting, but sad is more appropriate. For you offer the world absolutely, nothing.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joins House Democrats in vote for Trump war budget [wsws.
Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 27, 2019:
Can you please tell me which political party you support in the United States and whether or not you are an actual American? This post seems all over the place... Very strange...
William_Mary replies on Jul 28, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty lets just call it water under the bridge. If we get to good wine flowing under the bridge then we have a problem :-) I'm more than happy to work with anyone who needs clarification or is interested in my understanding on post I make as I see the narrative direction. But I can't work with ( This post seems all over the place... Very strange...) Where the hell do I go with that? It can be seen as an insult to someone's time who injects their own side notes, and I don't have a clue whether you're actually confronting the article or my injected side notes of opinion. Or whether you're actually posing a legitimate question. If you want someone's clarification, mine in this example, please provide substance and direction to that which you're referring to. As far as AOC goes, it isn't to hard to look up the vote count. If you're on a phone and it's easier for me, I'll even do it for us. Then if you are to find the article is wrong, confront that so I know I need to reconsider the source before using it in the future. But I've never found this site to purposely mislead with its information. And BTW, this might be a hard fact for you to swallow if you're an AOC supporter, but this is far from the first time she has back legislature that favors Trump's agenda or the establishments agenda. I'm truly sorry she seems to have turned out to be another Sanders like politician, but she started giving those signs right out of the gate as she has time after time supported even those within her own party that are constantly belittling her proclaimed progressive agenda. Right out of the gate she stated she supported Clinton even after all we know about how that election went down. And today still spews the false fear the Russian narrative. You simply can't speak out against the party you're in and a number of its agendas then turn around and support it and those leading the agenda also. Her votes on military spending, support for regime change in Iran and Venezuela, Israel's right to defend itself illegally, flip flop on the budget bill that opened up fake border issues to go through, a corporate leaning green deal that was stolen and heavily diluted from the green party. Which the latter seems to be what all her supporters use as a support system from her, and I will argue she is using quite well as an illusion. I say this as a fair warning from someone that was a stanch Sanders supporter! Who overlooked some of the very same signs in him. Deeply disappointed in Nader and Hedges discussion of how they said he would eventually collapse and betray his followers at the convention, if not before. They called that scene almost to a tee. I spent about every waking moment advocating for him on the weekends and week night of my free time to be totally let ...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joins House Democrats in vote for Trump war budget [wsws.
silverotter11 comments on Jul 28, 2019:
I read the post - well fuck I got nothing to argue with. There is NO 2 party system, big corporate/wealth is our government and our elected officials dance on the end of their strings. I am not surprised and from all appearances trump will get a 2nd term. I was sort of hoping after they got their...
William_Mary replies on Jul 28, 2019:
I know, right. This goes well beyond cognitive dissidence! Stupidity?
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joins House Democrats in vote for Trump war budget [wsws.
Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 27, 2019:
Can you please tell me which political party you support in the United States and whether or not you are an actual American? This post seems all over the place... Very strange...
William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty don't give yourself such credit. I've been dealing with your type longer than you've been out of diapers. You're to late to being able to get under my skin. You have left yourself open for me to point out your rudeness and quackery a number of times, I've just been to understanding to confront you until now as you attack me. Part of that quackery seems more about the persons ability to relate than it is the information making sense. From you post and comments it seems quite apparent to many people around you tend to be too understanding for you. It's quite sad one who has a tendency to recognize the faults of certain people and their characters, also practices the same without notice.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joins House Democrats in vote for Trump war budget [wsws.
Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 27, 2019:
Can you please tell me which political party you support in the United States and whether or not you are an actual American? This post seems all over the place... Very strange...
William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty feel free to go find us a contradiction then Cutie. I'm open for debate and rebuttal of my post. Please provide the substance to participate in such. Insinuating I'm un-American and now this is a page right out of Trumps book. Seems to me you've either been well condition or you rude as fuck. Pick your poison right along with the other member above you.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joins House Democrats in vote for Trump war budget [wsws.
bobwjr comments on Jul 27, 2019:
WTF Bullshit
William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2019:
That helps us understand a lot! Excellent observation and participation you have going there.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez joins House Democrats in vote for Trump war budget [wsws.
Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 27, 2019:
Can you please tell me which political party you support in the United States and whether or not you are an actual American? This post seems all over the place... Very strange...
William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2019:
I'm presently registered as a Green. Which I switched to, to vote in the last mid election cycle of 2018. Over the years I have been non affiliated, which in Ohio I have the right to chose which ever primary party I want to vote in. Before going Green I voted for Sanders in the primary which automatically switch me to a Democrat. Leaving me a choice to go back to non affiliated or Green. Which I did so (Green) once I went in to vote. Voting laws in Ohio are a little easier on voters in that way. Which is why so many problems exists in other states with independents and deadlines to register. I can switch parties as an independent or non affiliated the day I go in to vote. If I so chose to vote for any certain party members in a primary. Which I'm fairly certain at this point it time it will not be for a democrat or a republican any time soon.
The Great Reckoning From a vantage point in the not-too-distant future Andrew J.
callmedubious comments on Jul 25, 2019:
a british economist wrote a book called the "Great Reckoning" 30 yrs ago. according to him we would have had a financial collapse by now. as depressing as it is to think about it the powers that be could keep this corrupt financial, political system going for more decades.
William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2019:
@callmedubious offering an opinion is a means to suggest a theory. In which the one it's offered to analyzes it with their own to coordinate a relative relationship towards, or declines it out of rebuttal, often resorting to further discussion either way. Therefore, an opinion can basically be the same thing as a suggestion in some cases. Maybe it's your presentation. You're always seemingly domineering on the boards when I interact with you. I see it towards others also, from you. Plus your lack of proper grammar makes it hard to understand your intent and content. When I have to read such short replies and comments made from you over and over it's quite frankly, insane for me to even attempt to communicate with you. And I personally hate grammar trolls for the most part, knowing mines not perfect, but in your case I see why they can become annoyed.
______!!!!Equifax Might Owe You $125 for Its Massive Data Breach.
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Not eligible. Don't know if I should be happy about that or not lol
William_Mary replies on Jul 27, 2019:
More on that today. It looks like it's pretty much a scam of sorts.
______!!!!Equifax Might Owe You $125 for Its Massive Data Breach.
Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Some people can get up to 20 thousand dollars if they can prove financial loss...
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty thank you. I'll add it to the post!
______!!!!Equifax Might Owe You $125 for Its Massive Data Breach.
Haemish1 comments on Jul 26, 2019:
So the dark web gets all my private, financial data - and I get BEER MONEY!!!! 🍺🍻🍺🤔
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
Right! No it's not right. But $250 pays a bit of my bills.
______!!!!Equifax Might Owe You $125 for Its Massive Data Breach.
Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Some people can get up to 20 thousand dollars if they can prove financial loss...
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@Cutiebeauty well I guess that thought is now out there for people to explore. Mary is telling me now that it is on the FAQ page after you put in your last 6 digits of your SSN. So if you came up with unexpected money missing you have the option to sue for more. I take it.
______!!!!Equifax Might Owe You $125 for Its Massive Data Breach.
Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Some people can get up to 20 thousand dollars if they can prove financial loss...
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
Can you provide details to that?
The Great Reckoning From a vantage point in the not-too-distant future Andrew J.
jlynn37 comments on Jul 25, 2019:
"to bring change most Americans voice for". In my opinion this is very much reflected in how the voting citizenry vote in our present system as most do not bother to vote. I have voted in few national elections that a 3rd or 4th party/candidate was not on the ballot. If change is to happen it will ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
“We are like mice, squeaking at an avalanche – but squeak we MUST!” – Chris Hedges – 3rd parties are making great steps towards being on ballots. It's up to us to get them there and stay educated to exposure. Then pass that exposure on. The establishment and main stream media aren't going to help us in this regard. Although Sanders betrayed us in 2016, we showed the world how a 3rd party can win on grassroots support. We did that! Not Sanders, the establishment, or the media, which fought us to the convention where he bowed to his masters. He had 3 choices. Fight the corruption we were up against from day one in Iowa, take Jill Stein's offer on the Green Party ticket, or bow to the establishment. We all know what path he took. One person at a time, squeak we must! Never give up! Do you squeak or give up for those you leave behind? I'll squeak for my grandchildren until I die! https://vimeo.com/292721963
The Great Reckoning From a vantage point in the not-too-distant future Andrew J.
WilliamFleming comments on Jul 25, 2019:
“...and their tool the main stream media as collaborators in an agenda of perception management and false narratives engaged towards keeping us entrapped in a failing capitalist system to benefit the ruling class of the Westernized world.” I think your campaign is based on a false narrative ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@dare2dream I would expect nothing less from Vox. An entity that often tows the establishment line. Obviously WIlliamFleming isn't getting the news about how our present markets have been self propelling itself with stock buy backs from the enormous tax breaks both on incomes and money overseas. Which is a manufactured means to make the economy look good, temporarily. I say temporarily because as soon as they raised the interest rate, they are now already talking about going back to 0. Because the market is not sustaining itself. Housing is going bust again. No one, as you mention, is able to buy with stagnant wage growth. The Deutsche Bank in Germany is presently going under. And if it is not bailed out, again at the expense of the working class, the ripple effects will be felt world wide. Mixed with our failing market, we are looking at another world recession that experts are predicting will be worse that that of 2007/8. You can find that covered by Rick Sanchez on a number of his shows. https://www.rt.com/shows/news-with-rick-sanchez/
The Great Reckoning From a vantage point in the not-too-distant future Andrew J.
dare2dream comments on Jul 25, 2019:
This sounds good so long as it doesn't become a forum of conspiracy theories.
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
Well, lets start with that. Did you know that the CIA made the terminology (conspiracy theory) a bad thing. Back in the 50's as our government was ramping up for perpetual warring in Central America, they began invading the main stream media. It was to go hand in hand with the program (perception management). This is what you get from today's MSM, perception management to draw us into an illusion of how they want you to see the world that vindicates their actions. And anyone who dared to dissent from that false narrative they were attempting to sell through the media were instructed to label such a dissenter as a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracies happen all the time, good, bad, they just exist. One can not conspire without being a theorist. Nothing bad about that unless it's to do bad things. Please scroll down to US Government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception_management Robert Parry, my most trusted journalist and creator of the first internet news site in 1995, also talked about perception management. Lost History: CIA's Perception Management https://consortiumnews.com/archive/lost12.html You can do a search at his site https://consortiumnews.com/ and get a few hits on how perception management have been used over the years in various issues on the American public. When someone calls me a conspiracy theorist or any other derogatory conspiracy ?, I take it as a compliment. It only tells me I may be dealing with someone that is most likely ignorant and wants to remain ignorant. Or is a troll with a purpose. Ask yourself why our MSM news programs today are all flooded with X intelligence agents and military personnel? Why they all spend their time on these programs hyping up war? And in most cases where they are attempting to sell us a bad narrative, such as with Iran and Venezuela at the present time, which I can debunk or provide good reason to question their narrative, became so widely used. Same with Syria, Libya, Yemen, Iraq. All these people are on our news programs to hype up false narratives towards war that are manufactured for the benefit of the ruling class. Does it not bother you that nearly 5000 US soldiers lost their lives in Iraq over a lie? In which many alternative independent journalist were called, conspiracy theorist, when they spoke against that war before hand. Or totally ignored and not allowed on MSM to share their findings. Like Robert Parry in the mid 90's leaving a lucrative paying MSM role after becoming frustrated with trying to get his work published, many journalist were forced out and or left MSM over the Iraq war issue. I highly suggest you read the MEMORIAM to him to get a feel for him and the type of journalism our country is missing now. The site also offers decades of very valuable ...
THE ANGRY ARAB: Maxime Rodinson & the Palestinian Question A new book attacking the French ...
Robecology comments on Jul 25, 2019:
I almost never attended any Jewish ceremonies.....but my mother came from a strict Jewish family; and she was "ostracized" by her parents for years before they finally "befriended us. So I have lots of reasons to support the Israeli struggle. But it's clearly gotten out of hand. I'm now ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
Don't be ashamed of your Jewish heritage. Be mad that it's been stolen by Zionist! You'll find some American's in this group in the same boat as yourself as we dissent from what our government does around the globe. I'm not ashamed to be American, I'm very concerned what is done in our name to others around the world for the benefit of a failing system and the ruling class. And the Israeli government is part of that, as many other governments. The working class of the world need to unite against all these governments and say enough. There are many Jewish in the US, especially in New York, who protest against the Jewish state for what it does. So you're not alone within your feelings.
The Great Reckoning From a vantage point in the not-too-distant future Andrew J.
Flowerwall comments on Jul 25, 2019:
Not as informed as I should be in political matters, but I do believe something is strongly amiss in this nation. I will join to learn more. I have heard strong argument for the end of the two party system. Don't know enough though.
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
I look forward to seeing you in the group! Please come with an open mind. I and a few others who regularly post tend to ruffle feathers as we dissent against some of the most popular politicians many people glorify. And against most false narratives that main stream media use to spread perception management. Most American's are living in a delusional reality set by this agenda that has been in use since at least the Reagan era. Actually longer, but that's a long story. I have a pinned post at the forefront of the group that explains a bit about that. The world is not what it seems when you take a good look at history and compare it with today and what they attempt to sell you in the news. It takes time to start actually begin seeing the puzzle come together. It's an ugly truth that takes an open mind and work to find that truth. Feel free to ask me to attempt to explain or guide you to any information you have concerns with. I'm always willing to provide sources of alternative information with substance that often debunks what you see in our main stream media.
The Great Reckoning From a vantage point in the not-too-distant future Andrew J.
callmedubious comments on Jul 25, 2019:
a british economist wrote a book called the "Great Reckoning" 30 yrs ago. according to him we would have had a financial collapse by now. as depressing as it is to think about it the powers that be could keep this corrupt financial, political system going for more decades.
William_Mary replies on Jul 26, 2019:
We've had many little collapses. And we are in the beginning of a new one now. The only reason we haven't had a major collapse, if that's what you're attempting to suggest, is because of how corrupt the system is. However, I would consider that of 2007/8 was a major collapse. Take my last 2 sentences towards that corrupt system when they stifled a disaster off the backs of the working class. To them it's only bad when it effects those at the top of the money train. Right now with what's going on in the US and Germany, they are saying it could be worse than what happened in 2007/8. Our MSM is talking about it, the real issues. I suggest you watch the Rick Sanchez show to keep up on it. https://www.rt.com/shows/news-with-rick-sanchez/
Max Blumenthal drops by the largest military base in Latin America [youtube.com]
William_Mary comments on Jul 21, 2019:
What Max says about Honduran's joining their military is as true to minorities joining the US military. Bowing to complicity of that which their own people have endured for decades to centuries.
William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2019:
@Looking4-Others I wish I could have kept better track of this story. But last week it was reported that CBD is essentially eating itself. Along with another broken Trump promise to add 5000 people to the agency, it is reported they are losing around 25 agents per pay period. Due to strenuous work conditions, low pay, and working environment. I would imagine many do not agree with the way things are being run either. Some people do have morals. And ending up shot in the back in the desert over voicing disagreement isn't worth the low pay. You and I both know voicing complaints will get no one anywhere but placed between a rock and hard dry desert floor down there.
Star Trek: Picard Trailer Reveals Data, Seven of Nine Will Return [msn.
Druvius comments on Jul 21, 2019:
Trailer looks good, got a kick out of the fact they filmed at the Vasques Rocks, lol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasquez_Rocks
William_Mary replies on Jul 21, 2019:
It looks like that shot on the video was taken from the other side of the formation in the photo on Wikipedia. I had to enlarge it to notice there are people up on it. That's to cool!
Trump’s Racist Tweets Fan Hatred, Defining the Coming Election [therealnews.
altschmerz comments on Jul 20, 2019:
Would you believe I belong to a group called “Progressives and Socialists” and they’re mad at me for bashing the Democratic Party over there?
William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2019:
I so believe it! I'm in that group also but rarely visit it for that very reason. I would imagine most of the self proclaimed socialist there follow the DSA. Which would be their biggest problem if I'm right. To be frank. If you're a self proclaimed progressive or any type of real socialist and defend the democratic party, your either not up on the news, watch, follow, and believe to much of MSM, or just want to be part of the beat Trump at all cost tribe.
Private Equity’s Latest Scheme: Closing Urban Hospitals and Selling Off the Real Estate ...
silverotter11 comments on Jul 20, 2019:
OH NO!! WOW! I just wonder what my twin sister thinks of this. She voted for trump, lives in Bucks County, PA - one of the whites counties in the the country and believes the religious bs. Forget the fact she was a union worker at the GM Trenton plant, took early retirement but is married to a ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 20, 2019:
I will argue that part of our problem is the 1 or 2 generations before us. Those that lived through the better workforce period of decent paying jobs, many with unions and pension plans. You might recall that period as beneficial from its more socialist nature that brought us many workers rights and protections. In which at the time only 1 household worker was needed. These people are or became republicans in time, for the most part. They have the fortune to still live in that period mentally, the present escapes them. I came into the present as that period was on its way out. I was one of the first victims to NAFTA in 96 as the factory I worked at shut down and moved south on bogus reasoning. One of the few left in Delaware, Ohio that had that type of security built in. Today, well, since the Reagan era, war on unions and pensions have wrecked society in that aspect. I'm sure most understand now unionized jobs are so few now it's scary. Mary was offered a job a few years back by a company that was working towards abolishing pensions for the government. They intend on, at that point in time, ridding the country of pension plans within 5 years. If not already enacted, there will come a time no company will provide a pension program. Or will in some measure dissolve the one's they have. I'm sure we've all heard the horror stories on how companies have either filed bankruptcy to vastly reduce or entirely dissolve theirs as it is. GM companies are a part of that past generation which is moving into what I'm speaking about now. Your sister had the good fortune to be blessed for its social aspect. Now blissfully supports the capitalist aspect that will not be so kindly to her successors. As I have posted a number of articles on GM in the past about the union working with the company over the workers. Creating a 2 tier workforce mixing in new lower waged workers with unionized workers. Union leaders being exposed of taking bribes and purposely changing rules to benefit the company during negotiations and voting times. Many of those articles involved a plant here near me in Lordstown, Ohio that recently shut down. Trump came here and told them not to sell their homes so quickly, he'd replace their jobs. 🤢 This is in the Youngstown area. A city that's already been ravaged by the steel industry. Once a population of 170k in 1930 today about 65k. A few years back they went through the city and flattened out whole neighborhoods of empty housing. :-( Good luck on the investments! With the fake manufactured economy we are living in right now mixed with the Deutsche bank collapse going on in Europe right now hit full tilt, this may even effect her pension let alone any money she has invested. Right now they're saying we have about a year and a half at a ...
How U.S. Tech Giants are Helping to Build China's Surveillance State [theintercept.com]
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jul 15, 2019:
When I saw IBM my mind immediately went back to the Nazis and how IBM supported the Nazis. Nobody can tell me that corporations and/or their relationship with our government isn't right wing. I love Caitlin Johnston, but she recently wrote an article about how it's not right vs left, and that it's ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 18, 2019:
Yea, I have a love hate relationship with that bitch myself ;-) Right now I'm in ignore mode on her. Until she does another brilliant piece. :-) She's real good at bashing our country and us for what's going on but seems to ignore how her own country is a mirror of ours. I don't think I can recall at any time her even bashing her own government over the Assange thing for not supporting him or for the fact they pretty much have ignored him and left him out to the wolfs in all sh'e written on that issue. It's all on us. Let's not forget how just how much world corporations played a part in Germany's rise in that era. Where they were prohibited from gaining weapons of war after WW1. IBM is but a fraction of what lead to WW2 with Germany's ability to get to a war like structure again. I'd have to look up some stuff on it, but the Bush family, Ford, a number of banks, an oil company or 2, and all the westernized world countries turned a blind eye to Germany as they built their way back into a war strength with help against these sanctions. Have no doubt about it, it was a war wanted.
How U.S. Tech Giants are Helping to Build China's Surveillance State [theintercept.com]
altschmerz comments on Jul 15, 2019:
So we deride the police state in China and then contribute to it. That's so American.
William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2019:
@altschmerz you basically came close to adding caution to the information in your first reply. "So we deride the police state in China and then contribute to it." Then provide a fair answer in the second part. Containing the word, (American). You're in a group that is attempting to pass information onto the "American" people of how our main stream media is purposely spreading a delusional perception of the world. On behalf of and beneficial to all of westernized globalist around the world, I'll add here. Managing their illusion of that world while engaged in an agenda of colonialism and perpetual war to keep their failing capitalist economy afloat. Which benefits only the ruling class while vast exploitation rages the commons in deep inequality. With that said, put yourself in the shoes of the government of China. You would criticize China for what you don't want either? I'm fairly certain most of your participation within this group has been acknowledgement towards at least a good deal of what I just stated. The UK is known to be the biggest player in surveillance on the planet. I have a hard time believing the US is any better! And this DEEP technology coming into our lives scares the shit out of me of how it will be used to create massive confusion, more ignorance. If you think we have an ignorant population now, just wait until this shit hits full use. This is kind of related to the Richard Wolff video I posted last weekend explaining the history of Russia/USSR. You might want to give China some credit for not wanting to allow our government and media to infect their population with something I see wrong with ours! When you combine Google and IBM with A foundation, my first question is, What agenda does this foundation have? Then, (Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, told The Intercept that he was alarmed by the revelations. “It’s disturbing to see that China has successfully recruited Western companies and researchers to assist them in their information control efforts,” Warner said.) What else would you expect from someone on the intelligence committee to say? I guess this. (Chinese state security agencies are likely using the technology to target human rights activists, pro-democracy advocates, and critics of President Xi Jinping’s regime, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to fear of reprisals.) Fear the Chinese but not your own government. Agenda much anyone? Ok, it says they're monitoring 25% of the population. I have 4 words for everyone. Facebook. Google. Intelligence agencies. I'll add 5 Eyes also which is a collaborate effort of several countries working together in surveillance around the globe. Who have targeted journalist in New Zealand for being ...
Jeffrey Epstein Is Exhibit A for Capitalism’s Moral Bankruptcy [truthout.
silverotter11 comments on Jul 15, 2019:
The problem isn't just capitalism - money is what fuels the morally bankrupt core of these people. At one time I thought Christie was okay - hahahahaha bridgegate was his final undoing. I'm just now, thanks to this article, aware of his role in the kushner scandal. A morally uncorrupted person ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 16, 2019:
Then he allowed Trump to use him. And then abuse him. What a tool!
Richard Wolff summarizes the history of the USSR (1917-1975) [youtube.com]
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jul 14, 2019:
Now some people will watch this and think he is a Stalin apologist or a commie or supporting a bad system or government when all he is doing is stating facts. I have run into this tons of times with people who are "political" these days.
William_Mary replies on Jul 14, 2019:
Right, because they can't put the pieces together, falling into the perception management. A successful socialist governance being forced into militarism to defend itself. The western globalist couldn't fully control them so they have to demonize them. Either way they go the people pay the price one way or the other. But without their chosen path where would we be today without their resistance? We may, should, be grateful for theirs and China's resistance of being a check on total world dominance by these sociopaths and psychopaths. I'm sure Cuba and Venezuela are!
The Revelations of WikiLeaks: No.
silverotter11 comments on Jul 13, 2019:
Sex. Outside of the moving force of water it is the most powerful force in nature. Now add human's ability to use (or not use) their mind. Well golly gee, corruption is almost a given. It's the level that we are willing to tolerate or look the other way that is scary. The little people in any ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 13, 2019:
Ryan tucked his tail and left over speaking out.
House Democrats give $4.
Walt1984 comments on Jul 6, 2019:
It would seem that blaming House Democrats like AOC would be missing the mark entirely. The real fault lies in the Senate, where Senate Democrats voted for the bill. Mitch MCConnell used that point to help leverage the House into complying. His point was that the bill received bi-partisan support in...
William_Mary replies on Jul 10, 2019:
@Walt1984 "take responsibility for those they have brought hard times" I think that pretty much speaks for itself. Long term responsibility will stop the flow. Diplomacy and engage in real democratic elections for their country ironing out their economy, most will go back.
Hack of Department of Homeland Security contractor exposes government surveillance of drivers on US ...
silverotter11 comments on Jul 9, 2019:
There are problems on so many levels it is hard to know where to start. When you have a person like mitch mcconnell actively thwarting efforts to secure our elections why would this come as a surprise? Too many secrets.
William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2019:
We have so many profiles that have been made on us by government and corporations I wonder how they keep track of all of them.
House Democrats give $4.
Looking4-Others comments on Jul 9, 2019:
I posted this link to 3 "Progressive" voices on Youtube. I say that because I used to really believe in TYT but of course the establishment got to them as well.
William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2019:
I know you're right!
House Democrats give $4.
Walt1984 comments on Jul 6, 2019:
It would seem that blaming House Democrats like AOC would be missing the mark entirely. The real fault lies in the Senate, where Senate Democrats voted for the bill. Mitch MCConnell used that point to help leverage the House into complying. His point was that the bill received bi-partisan support in...
William_Mary replies on Jul 9, 2019:
@Walt1984 to stop interfering in other countries affairs, especially those with democratic elected presidents who aren't harming anyone. And to take responsibility for those they have brought hard times on with their policies to benefit the worlds western globalist.
House Democrats give $4.
Walt1984 comments on Jul 6, 2019:
It would seem that blaming House Democrats like AOC would be missing the mark entirely. The real fault lies in the Senate, where Senate Democrats voted for the bill. Mitch MCConnell used that point to help leverage the House into complying. His point was that the bill received bi-partisan support in...
William_Mary replies on Jul 8, 2019:
@Walt1984 Trump created the problem? This problem is a creation of decades in the making. Trump is merely the one presiding over it now. You're essentially making an argument towards the very narrative of this group as you reference the relative nature between the parties. McConnell only has the power in which the entirety of the senate gives him. Forcing him to morally abuse that power is a means to check that power when his term is up and the duty of the opposition party. Not to cave in for more immorality. Knowing and innocent person up for a firing squad, would you vote for that person to be put forth because others simply don't have a measure of concern for this person, or voice opposition to the end pleading his case on morality. This is basically the same as we have through decades created this issue with a lack of morality towards these people over profit, now as those actions present the outcome issues at our door step, more immorality is acceptable, over facing the truth of those actions through decades of action from both parties. Which is not being presented in their case! But they are being used as a false narrative in party divide to hide the real sense of the delusional reality of managed perception towards an agenda. In which actual debate over the reality could force policy changes in the future, should be changing policy in the future! Rather than expanding the delusion such as in Venezuela. What century must we finally have policies that catch up to our intelligence and lessons from history!?! Yea, 17th century colonialism tactics to me must come to an end.
House Democrats give $4.
Walt1984 comments on Jul 6, 2019:
It would seem that blaming House Democrats like AOC would be missing the mark entirely. The real fault lies in the Senate, where Senate Democrats voted for the bill. Mitch MCConnell used that point to help leverage the House into complying. His point was that the bill received bi-partisan support in...
William_Mary replies on Jul 7, 2019:
So if they chose to fight Trump could just send in some gatling guns and wipe all the camps out? Problem solved? There's this thing called emergency funding of presidential orders that could also be implicated. Trump has no issues with using this measure at questionable times when it serves a purpose of his. To allow the situation to become any worse than it already is would be a major stain on all those representing us of all 3 houses. Allowing McConnell to dictate the process of law and morality is unacceptable in this unsanitary, inhumane issue. If there was ever a cause to fight this was it!
A Reading: Suzie Dawson Connects the 2016 Election, Occupy, and Wikileaks Thus, as we begin the ...
Donna_I comments on Jul 7, 2019:
interesting articles!
William_Mary replies on Jul 7, 2019:
Thank you for your interest!
Socialism 2019: A Democratic Party operation [wsws.
Looking4-Others comments on Jul 6, 2019:
Wow! This is truly disheartening but well worth reading and acknowledging.
William_Mary replies on Jul 6, 2019:
I remember leading into the 2016 election cycle how popular the DSA and Jacobin became. It didn't to take long to start putting the pieces together this article states though. I eventually had to erase them from my facebook page. As the months went on the corporate factor to them became more evident with the politicians they endorsed and statements towards certain legislature went.
The Declaration of Independence Is Sexist, Racist, Prejudiced We can embrace the underlying ...
Cutiebeauty comments on Jul 4, 2019:
Can you site any support that the declaration of independence is racist, sexist, or predudice...? I'm certainly interested in that... Especially since most of these ideas didn't exist back then..
William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2019:
Other than the examples in the article?
The Declaration of Independence Is Sexist, Racist, Prejudiced We can embrace the underlying ...
altschmerz comments on Jul 4, 2019:
The webpage says "403 Forbidden" for me.
William_Mary replies on Jul 5, 2019:
I'm still getting it.
So for the 4th I only get it off.
Donna_I comments on Jul 3, 2019:
I dont suppose it would do any good to explain what Bastille day is about vs the 4th of July. A group of men stating in a document their intention to separate from a tyrannical sovereign and govern themselves vs a mob of dissatisfied people storming a prison for political prisoners which also held ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 4, 2019:
That's quite interesting. I see a number of places, along with several US cities, also celebrate a Bastille Day.
So for the 4th I only get it off.
Looking4-Others comments on Jul 3, 2019:
I'll be so glad when that egotistical maniac is gone! Getting a day off should be beneficial though. I was asked if I had any plans for tomorrow and hadn't even thought much about it. Stopped celebrating glorified holidays myself actually. after learning more about the true history of the majority ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 4, 2019:
They've all been commercialized.
Race Bamboozle: How the Establishment Win by Pitting “Black” Folks vs “White” People ...
Looking4-Others comments on Jul 3, 2019:
Excellent article! This guy called it out for what it is and I agree with him on the Biden/Harris sideshow.
William_Mary replies on Jul 4, 2019:
Lij Teodrose Fikremariam, name change recently as he left his writing on a daily basis to work on issues towards his homeland of Ethiopia. Worked on the 1st Obama campaign in which part of Obama's exception speech was partially written by Lij Teodrose Fikremariam. Became disenfranchised with Obama now referring to him, as the article mentions, the first bank president. I resonate with him over the same reason in many aspects with Bernie Sanders. I also voted for Obama both times making excuses for him. Falling for the very same false rhetoric parroted perception management narratives MSM used. First getting nothing done while holding power for 2 years of all 3 houses. Allowing the republicans to strong arm them failing to use the same tactics the republicans use changing rules and other means. Obama became GWB on steroids. And many of us fell for it and voted for him again. This is how the country has been moving right each decade. The republicans set the tone when in power and the democrats remain idle doing nothing of substance when they have the power. Then when the republicans gain back power again they move us right more. All the while they both work out deals in back rooms and republicans get away with sneaking in amendments that belittle democracy and the people. How often does a deal come from the back room that benefits the people and democracy? You hear the republicans bitch about how the democrats are attempting to screw us, but you never see it working out for us, do you? Those deals always benefit corporations and the wealthy, take away rights, since Trump, kill EPA issues, kill social issues, kill rights for LBGT and Native American's, along with their treaties. DACA? Still no solution!?! Just recently, finally brought back to being mentioned after all this time. You can find work of his at the site going into all of that. He has a number of good writers there also.
So for the 4th I only get it off.
FrayedBear comments on Jul 3, 2019:
Happy holiday. It already has arrived here. That is 80k lbs?
William_Mary replies on Jul 4, 2019:
@FrayedBear weather permitting it is a sure thing! But it will be the Indian.
Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.
Looking4-Others comments on Jun 30, 2019:
Thank you for creating this group! I love wathing Abby Martin's Empire Files among those listed but I didn't see The Intercept listed I just found out about this group a minute ago and had to join.
William_Mary replies on Jul 3, 2019:
@Looking4-Others I don't know much about him actually. I did post the interview he did with Abby Martin a few months back though. Anything Abby goes up here for the most part. I'm desperately waiting to see if her new work on Gaza comes to my area! I know it opened in LA a week or 2 ago.
So for the 4th I only get it off.
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jul 3, 2019:
Maybe the Democrats shouldn't have approved an increase in the military budget again for the man child to show off.
William_Mary replies on Jul 3, 2019:
Don't be giving them any ideas! 😉
So for the 4th I only get it off.
FrayedBear comments on Jul 3, 2019:
Happy holiday. It already has arrived here. That is 80k lbs?
William_Mary replies on Jul 3, 2019:
Yes 80,000 lbs. Depending on what size box I have on the trailer empty, I can be anywhere from about 48, 000 to around 55,000. Full of scrap steel I can be up to sometimes over 80,000. And thank you. It will just be another day I guess.
Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.
Looking4-Others comments on Jun 30, 2019:
Thank you for creating this group! I love wathing Abby Martin's Empire Files among those listed but I didn't see The Intercept listed I just found out about this group a minute ago and had to join.
William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2019:
Welcome to the group Tony! While I have used The Intercept's work , and will in the future, have a good deal of respect for Glenn Greenwald, some of their writers tend to go establishment. Common Dreams is the same way, but I've been following them since the the mid 90's and know most of the writers there and what to look for. Feel free to be the Intercept man though! I would welcome the addition! I hope we can make your time here a pleasant endeavor.
I do have a horse in this race.
powder comments on Jul 1, 2019:
I do like to play devils advocate at times. And often use the lowest and my favourite form of wit, sarcasm. It's all pretty good and doesn't get personal at times though I find. The odd bad apple makes life interesting I find. I'm very anti censorship, so don't go to Nazi on us. I'm sure you ...
William_Mary replies on Jul 1, 2019:
Not in this life time!
JOHN KIRIAKOU: Adam Schiff—The Left Wing of the Hawk Adam Schiff, chairman of the House ...
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jun 29, 2019:
Schiff is one of the people on the Democrat side leading the charge against Russia and calling Trump a traitor, but now he wants to side with Trump in going after Iran and Venezuela? Trump isn't a traitor to him anymore for wanting to do that? Did Trump all of a sudden NOT become a Russian agent to ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2019:
@Rob1948 "I responded to your question about foreign policy. Before you took the discussion on a tangent, I stated that Trump and the Democrats do not have the same foreign policy interests. Instead of responding to that, you decided to answer that, through history," P2YP's response was quite appropriate. Using history to relate the relative significance isn't just part of today's problems, but it also reveals the systematic structure we here are attempting to expose. And quite frankly, you just once again, as you have time and time, exposed how you're trapped in their perception management of their narrative in rhetoric. Thinking you have the right to chose someone else's means of debating truth. And although P2YP indeed used facts of substance in that exchange of the same issue you attacked with conditioned rhetoric. While at the same time denying him the right to provide a productive counter, you want to set the perimeter controlling the narrative to fit your argument by attempting to degrade his means to counter. That is classic establishment rhetoric. It is used on/in main stream media when someone goes against the projected narrative of the establishment to ridicule and degrade that person in front of the audience or reader to sway, create fear, confusion, and distort facts. The question now becomes whether you're doing this on purpose or out of ignorance from that conditioning. The latter seemingly fitting for how easy it seems to become of you. You've obviously been doing this for quite some time and quite good at it. But when you attempt to pull the hood down over a group of people who can carry their own with facts and substance, it's only a matter of time the mask gets pulled off. It's one thing to agree or disagree with issues brought forth, but to subject those around you to only your way in disagreements to a point they aren't worth your time and refuse to consider their points, is quite frankly irresponsible on your part for all of us.
"Holding governments accountable by exposing their misdeeds is the job of the free press, to which ...
William_Mary comments on Jun 29, 2019:
Who ever controls the narrative controls the population. As the writer admits, everything he thought was, wasn't. And there are millions of Americans out there who still haven't found the truth to this particular story who will be using it as they vote based on that false narrative and many others. ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2019:
@FrayedBear I'm getting it fine. Are you a member of Medium? If not you get a limited amount of viewing on that site.
JOHN KIRIAKOU: Adam Schiff—The Left Wing of the Hawk Adam Schiff, chairman of the House ...
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jun 29, 2019:
Schiff is one of the people on the Democrat side leading the charge against Russia and calling Trump a traitor, but now he wants to side with Trump in going after Iran and Venezuela? Trump isn't a traitor to him anymore for wanting to do that? Did Trump all of a sudden NOT become a Russian agent to ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2019:
That's the successful part of fake separation 2 party supporters suffer from. In which you then get responses like {Are you suggesting that it is not possible to disagree with a person on some issues but agree on others. Or, that if one labels a person a traitor, that the person so labeled cannot also do something that you agree with?} While I can agree there are times for compromises in policies of legislature, the compromises we get always have black holes in them leading to further gravity to the right, or often never funded to a fruitful progress when of progressive nature for the benefit of society. End game is that most people only see and hear what the establishment MSM reports to them the day after legislators vote on an issues that are pounded into their minds for days or weeks, never finding the later results that eventually come out in alternative independent journalism that doesn't get exposed. To them it's essentially a drunken one night hookup date. They get a moment of pleasure then afterwards can't recall what really happened until years later they realize they've been screwed. If even that time comes. Minds don't seem to "recall". 4 years later Bush was reelected even though he obviously lead a lie towards the death of many family members in the US. No one to this day seems to care! 4 years later the man of change was also reelected even though all the change he voiced became the same policies his predecessor enacted. On steroids even! That was his change. We just misunderstood his words towards what change meant. I obviously can't stress, fail at, the importance of taking history from about 5 decades ago and relating it to today's events and policies, getting people to put that puzzle together! I actually have link this to a future further back in time on the Pinned page here. I think I and a few others here have provided a good amount of information and resources to accommodate a necessary interest in exploring and following the directions to putting the puzzle together. Yet with nearly a dozen writers and scores of alternative journalist who we use to get that message out seems to reach few who claim to want change. They like the past presidents since Reagan return to the same program and policies they claim to want to change. It still lays in pieces awaiting a future generation to confront. We only make that battle harder for them as time goes on. Possibly of horrific outcomes to them. With all others around the globe wagging their fingers at us as the sole empire builders, the generations to come after us may indeed be dealt a terrible process of a systematically orchestrated destruction.
"Holding governments accountable by exposing their misdeeds is the job of the free press, to which ...
William_Mary comments on Jun 29, 2019:
Who ever controls the narrative controls the population. As the writer admits, everything he thought was, wasn't. And there are millions of Americans out there who still haven't found the truth to this particular story who will be using it as they vote based on that false narrative and many others. ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 30, 2019:
@FrayedBear redacting in what way? Considering some of the news sources, I'd say at LEAST half of, that he states his article at Medium has been offered to for publication would be the type to redact content by their own editors. One's that stands out the most who have been a stanch opposition to Assange in the false Russiagate narrative would be The Guardian, The Washington Post, and The New York Times. These 3 especially have been wagging that tail like a frantic starving dog in view of someone holding a steak out in teasing mode. They have the most to lose from all their line towing of perception management towards establishment narrative. I posted the Consortium article a while back by Joe Lauria. Who has taken over the editors position at Consortium News since the death of Robert Parry nearly 2 years ago. You can also find Nils speaking on this at The Real News Network. https://therealnews.com/stories/un-torture-expert-says-assange-is-victim-of-psychological-torture My only surprise is that he offered it to any of these other sources, any, to be frank, to give them the chance to redact. If he thought he was going to touch any hearts and find empathy for Assange within these entities, he's sadly mistaken. He had been better off to wait for them to take his write up on his findings on their own and then expose them as they hack it up.
I recorded the first night of debates but forgot to set the TV for last nights.
altschmerz comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Gravel wasn’t there but Tulsi did mention the war. https://youtu.be/w6d9-kn3U3o
William_Mary replies on Jun 29, 2019:
My apologies for our congressman Tim Ryan's totally ignorant comments in that debate. Take my word for it. We have enough of our own ignoramuses in Ohio, if anyone wants this one please feel free to come get him.
I recorded the first night of debates but forgot to set the TV for last nights.
freeofgod comments on Jun 29, 2019:
The democratic candidate should be ANYONE who can beat Trump.
William_Mary replies on Jun 29, 2019:
Which is exactly why we are where we are today at this time in our country. Perception management indeed works. :-(
Horror across US-Mexico border with multiple parents, infants dead [wsws.
St-Sinner comments on Jun 25, 2019:
Trump has shown the balls that no other president in the last 50 years has shown to even start it. Every president treated it like a vote bank and sacred cow. Immigration must be handled tough. **Encourage Legal and Quality Immigration** 1. Encourage students and professionals in science, ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@St-Sinner you keep sending me back to my initial reply. Your answers to my questions are in that one little analogy of yours. If the CIA does it, so be it. Don't do it. There's this thing called diplomacy. That thing we don't use when the global elite set their sites on monetary resources and decide to create false narratives and chaos to get. Leading to death and destruction. It's also something Trump virtually ended when he outed most of our diplomats never replacing them. Now our idea of diplomacy is being conducted by war hawks wishing to fulfill the agenda Wesley Clark warned us about several years ago.
'Hell No': Ocasio-Cortez Denounces Pelosi-Approved Vote on McConnell's Border Bill Without New ...
silverotter11 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Excellent post, I wish I had more to add, something that would wake up the sheeple, something that would get thru the processed junk food sugar haze but I have nothing and no ideas. TY for your post.
William_Mary replies on Jun 27, 2019:
There you are. I was worried about you. :-)
Horror across US-Mexico border with multiple parents, infants dead [wsws.
St-Sinner comments on Jun 25, 2019:
Trump has shown the balls that no other president in the last 50 years has shown to even start it. Every president treated it like a vote bank and sacred cow. Immigration must be handled tough. **Encourage Legal and Quality Immigration** 1. Encourage students and professionals in science, ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 27, 2019:
@St-Sinner god dam right! If you're going to go fuck someone's country up for the benefit of the global elite you should be prepared to pay for the repercussions you cause. And quite frankly, those actions put them on top of the list. Hardships taken to mind of course in all other cases. So by your analogy, if the CIA does it, Amen? Why is it when this issue comes up it's always the Mexican's that get a target on their back? Until recently we rarely even heard about the lower parts of Latin America. You just might want to wonder if this isn't a sign of some kind towards just how devastating things are getting from our actions. Or that it's just recently become and divide issue. I'm going with both. Speaking of Asia and Africa, lets throw India in there also. While Mexican's make up the majority, there are still another 49% that never get mentioned! And while the graph doesn't indicate Africa, I know dam well we have immigrants from Africa. So I would imagine there are numbers somewhere of them over staying visas also. India, last time I looked it up, was the 4th largest group of immigrants. What about that 1.2 percent from SOuth AMerica we aren;t hearing about? Guess where they are from? The newest fascist power of, that's right Brazil! But they being our new found friend get no mention!?! hmmmmm 2 percent of Cuba's finest elite or upper middle class fleeing a country, from a government geared more towards it;s people. crickets. No really! crickets. That was discovered to be the new weapon Cuba was using against our diplomats there. Mistaken for a sound wave weapon. https://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845
Horror across US-Mexico border with multiple parents, infants dead [wsws.
St-Sinner comments on Jun 25, 2019:
Trump has shown the balls that no other president in the last 50 years has shown to even start it. Every president treated it like a vote bank and sacred cow. Immigration must be handled tough. **Encourage Legal and Quality Immigration** 1. Encourage students and professionals in science, ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 26, 2019:
Your reality is so distorted. From the beginning and throughout this exchange with SiouxcitySue you have managed to provide the real issues while at the same time ignore how they have come about, while also adding some of the answers, seemingly unknowing. The US chose to police in a manor of self benefit in countries that didn't need policed. But for resources and the benefit of corporations and spoils through corrupt IMF exchanges. Then abandon them once the countries went broke. As a new democratic government is brought in by the people attempting to fix it, they replay the cycle. All this playing out while they send our tax dollars to their puppet governments for aid while they hold their fake power. Who often are caught misusing that money in various types of scandals. Speaking of money! I wonder how many billions, if not trillions, it has taken over the decades for the CIA to go in and create the false situations that have started all these elaborate schemes of colonization? If we are there to make their countries better, then why after are we then forced to provide aid!?! When no aid was needed before we interfered. I give you, Venezuela. Who before we began interfering in again was drastically improving their conditions on their own.
BAD BLUE: Some of the House Democrats Who Deserve to Be ‘Primaried’ Are these democrats in ...
WayneDalton comments on Jun 24, 2019:
Not in Ohio....yet
William_Mary replies on Jun 25, 2019:
Sharrod Brown's continuance in supporting war with the costly F 35's in collaboration with republicans in Ohio and nationally is gravely concerning.
Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems [caitlinjohnstone.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 23, 2019:
This article says what I have thought and said for many years. The duopoly, as Ralph Nader told us long ago, continues to win as long as most voters stay locked in the two party system. I think that even millions of our eligible voters who no longer vote do so because they have given up hope on ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2019:
@TomMcGiverin I could see that happening. ✔
Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems [caitlinjohnstone.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 23, 2019:
This article says what I have thought and said for many years. The duopoly, as Ralph Nader told us long ago, continues to win as long as most voters stay locked in the two party system. I think that even millions of our eligible voters who no longer vote do so because they have given up hope on ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2019:
@TomMcGiverin William=Bill I tend to be a bit loud and passionate, seemingly angered, at times. Your reply simply sounded like something I would say almost to a tee. I often cuss at Lewis Black for making millions off my natural character! SO when someone starts sounding like me I say that to them. Be careful, they might start calling you Bill. SEP=Socialist Equality Party Part of Sanders job comes with threats. They all get threats. It doesn't matter who they come from, he has a duty to deal with them appropriately. He has the top law enforcement agencies at his disposal in DC. Anyone using that at an excuse for him is simply ludicrous.
Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems [caitlinjohnstone.
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Jun 23, 2019:
Wow! That is a lot to unpack, maybe too much. I agree with some of it but remain dubious about some. I can agree government is frought with corruption, as is news media. It has gotten even worse since the wretched Citizens United Supreme Court decision. Biden, to me, represents a friendly "guy"...
William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2019:
@MikeInBatonRouge, @greyeyed123 If you haven't heard about rank voting it just might be the news you're watching. Maine was the first state to enact it. A number of states and cities are in the process of looking at it and enacting it. I will argue it isn't that difficult. You vote your first choice then down line. It's being argued as difficult because the establishment doesn't want it! Let that sink in for a moment, if you need a moment. What Is Ranked-Choice Voting? An Exercise in Representative Democracy, Reformists Say http://fortune.com/2019/05/07/ranked-choice-voting-explained/
Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems [caitlinjohnstone.
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Jun 23, 2019:
Wow! That is a lot to unpack, maybe too much. I agree with some of it but remain dubious about some. I can agree government is frought with corruption, as is news media. It has gotten even worse since the wretched Citizens United Supreme Court decision. Biden, to me, represents a friendly "guy"...
William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2019:
@MikeInBatonRouge There are several research articles on the psychology of conspiracy theory appeal. There was also a CIA program started around 1980 in which they directed our main stream media to start calling anyone who spoke against the establishment narrative a conspiracy theorist. They took 2 simple words and turned them into a bad thing as combined. Then our intelligence agencies, then our X military persons, began infiltrating our news media over the years. And getting paid well to conform the talking points towards perpetual warring. Perception management started under the Reagan administration. You can go to Consortium News and put perception management in their Google search engine and find Robert Parry's work on that and other articles about perception management. Robert Parry left MSM media over this and started the first internet new source in 1995. I would also highly recommend to read the memorium to him on the right of any page on the site. It details his work and reasons he left MSM which is staunchly related to what we are dealing with today in politics.
Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems [caitlinjohnstone.
TomMcGiverin comments on Jun 23, 2019:
This article says what I have thought and said for many years. The duopoly, as Ralph Nader told us long ago, continues to win as long as most voters stay locked in the two party system. I think that even millions of our eligible voters who no longer vote do so because they have given up hope on ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2019:
You better be careful! Or they'll start calling you Bill. Long story short. I worked endlessly from late 2015 throughout that primary to advocate for Sanders spending every free moment I had on facehack to get his policies and message out. As debate 2 came to an end I was already beginning to see a vision of a let down. I denied the Hedges interview of Nader and kept marching on. But they called the election cycle almost down to a tee. I still say outside of all the bullshit that went down during those months, Sanders won. The DNC found a way to cover it up. Without the bullshit, Sanders would have easily. If Sanders took Jill Stein up of running the Green Party ticket, Sanders just might be our president today! I witnessed/talked to/and chatted with scores of republicans and independents looking for information to change party affiliation to vote for Sanders. He let the country down and then also climbed of the false Russiagate narrative as a slap to all our faces. We can take the Green Party or the SEP to the top the same way we did for Sanders!
Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems [caitlinjohnstone.
wordywalt comments on Jun 23, 2019:
An empty diatribe. The biggest problem in the governance of our country today is the lusts of the Republican Party for maintaining privilege, increasing their partisan and personal power, and maximizing their personal profit.
William_Mary replies on Jun 24, 2019:
@dance1 Why not admit that the other side may have a small contribution to make? History: Tells us the same story of both parties. Lies and deceitful means to war. Democratically elected government interference's from CIA orchestrated chaos with help of terrorist. From Reagan through Trump. Pick a war, I'll tell you how it was lied about and a reason. Often due to resources, socialist nature, and or corporate desire to expand. If you really think it's about just the US, you're really missing the big picture. What will you be leaving behind for your family? Your country is part of the problem in Venezuela. You're backing another illegal government take over for their gold. But you're ok with that I take it. People are dying in Venezuela over sanctions our countries are backing, again over lies for resources and a government with a socialist nature towards greater equality for its citizens which vastly improved from Chavez's revolution. But the ruling class and corporations, from there and around the world couldn't have that. Couldn't have the world seeing a Latin American like country improve its society by these means. First Obama then Trump while a count of recent that 40,000 have died due to a lack of medicines and medical equipment and other issues for you and us because we want to pillage their country. And today the opposition party we've been supporting is now neck deep in a scandal from their fake emergency aid illusion with ties to another person milking their gas company with our help of millions. Rather than through diplomacy, that's really not needed, the Brits have stolen 3 billion in gold, we have frozen their assets in billions of gas from the US, and your corporations are bidding for their gold through opposition to support death via those illegal sanctions. Other side? I'm against both sides! You obviously miss the point of the article! In more ways than one. :-(
Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems [caitlinjohnstone.
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Jun 23, 2019:
Wow! That is a lot to unpack, maybe too much. I agree with some of it but remain dubious about some. I can agree government is frought with corruption, as is news media. It has gotten even worse since the wretched Citizens United Supreme Court decision. Biden, to me, represents a friendly "guy"...
William_Mary replies on Jun 23, 2019:
Biden has ties to about every problem and bad republicans in politics. He has a long history of supporting bad policies we still operate on today. I challenge you to join our group and debate that which has been posted about his past in post. or upcoming post. He just spent 8 years as the vice president in which Obama spent 8 years supporting and expanding the same bad policies and warring agenda of GW Bush. And giving the ruling class a pass on wrecking our economy while passing out trillions in bailouts! Leaving society to flip the bill and many on the streets. Many still today unable to get back on their feet or above water. Only one time did he speak negative of those policies, when he did he willingly apologized as he was forced to like a shrill would.
Propaganda Is The Root Of All Our Problems [caitlinjohnstone.
wordywalt comments on Jun 23, 2019:
An empty diatribe. The biggest problem in the governance of our country today is the lusts of the Republican Party for maintaining privilege, increasing their partisan and personal power, and maximizing their personal profit.
William_Mary replies on Jun 23, 2019:
I will argue empty is the failure to consider what you read and look back on the history of where our country is at today. Recognizing both parties share the same agenda. Within this next article you can apply the narrative of net neutrality to all aspects of government and reach the same conclusion. Also written by the same writer. Dems And GOP Work Together Like A Boxer’s 1–2 Punch To Knock You Out https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2017/12/16/dems-and-gop-work-together-like-a-boxers-1-2-punch-to-knock-you-out/ Outside of main stream media you can find scores of journalist who became independent in their work because they couldn't get real factual information past their editors, or fired from MSM because they crossed the establishment narrative that the ruling class now suppresses from the public by releasing their work through other means. We are indeed engaged in an information warfare. Refusal to understand that or educate yourself on this as a duty of media and citizens alike is simply compliance to further advancement towards fascism being brought to us by both parties. And your seemingly call of tribalism is part of the weapons they use against us.
How The Democratic Party Strangled Black Politics By Glen Ford Nothing changes on the electoral...
Rob1948 comments on Jun 22, 2019:
I’m not going to argue with any point you made, except one. You said “...Republican Ronald Reagan launched his 1980 campaign in blood-stained Neshoba County, Mississippi...” when, in fact he actually launched his campaign via a taped television announcement on November 13, 1979. If he had...
William_Mary replies on Jun 22, 2019:
@altschmerz some people seem to be here only for the purpose of the degradation of others. While technically his campaign didn't start in Neshoba County, it was the place a certain agenda was chosen for a beginning. To sway white conservative democrats to the republican party. I have on occasion mentioned my time during the 2016 primary of republicans searching for advice and knowledge of changing party affiliation to vote for Sanders. People who no longer, for quite some time, didn't recognize the party they have been supporting. In which they were willing to make a change to someone more appealing. Hoodwinked in 1980 by a strategy, these and the white democratic conservatives of the south became targets that fell in line behind a false narrative and perception management to that agenda. The south has been paying the price economically ever since. As each decade has gone by it has only gotten worse. Whether Glen Ford actually knows the announcement date over the agenda towards African Americans being use towards that agenda, I can't speak for. I highly doubt that he doesn't though. I would imagine as a writer/journalist of an internet publication geared towards the African American community, his agenda may of been in that direction. Did David Brooks Tell the Full Story About Reagan's Neshoba County Fair Visit? http://hnn.us/articles/44535.html
PEPE ESCOBAR: Brazilgate is Turning into Russiagate 2.
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jun 21, 2019:
It's crazy. I got the cliff notes from a Glenn Greenwald video because most of the reporting is in Portuguese. It's sort of like Russiagate, but the guy they threw in jail on trumped (pun intended) up phony charges is actually for the people. I think he had an approval rating of like 80% and was ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 22, 2019:
This is what they want to do with Venezuela. The reason it hasn't worked in Venezuela is because Chavez made the people part of the political process. He gave the people the power within politics over the state having total control. This is one reason it is totally false rhetoric when the western society claims it is a socialist run country, in the sense of being like a communist country they make it out to be. Another of course being Chavez and Maduro allowed corporations to continue to operate unless they were found to break laws and or interfere with the country's security. Great information!
The White Man’s Biden [truthout.
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jun 20, 2019:
He probably knows he has the primary locked up lol The field is saturated. Tulsi, Bernie, and Warren are all going to split the progressive/liberal vote. Nobody else is going to get much of the vote. This might cause Biden to win enough delegates in the first round, but even if it doesn't then ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 21, 2019:
@Piece2YourPuzzle I did read that somewhere also. Must have been a Common Dreams article if it isn't in this one.
The White Man’s Biden [truthout.
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jun 20, 2019:
He probably knows he has the primary locked up lol The field is saturated. Tulsi, Bernie, and Warren are all going to split the progressive/liberal vote. Nobody else is going to get much of the vote. This might cause Biden to win enough delegates in the first round, but even if it doesn't then ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 20, 2019:
Harris is the prosecutor from California, right? If so, yea, she's good at fucking over her own race and the working class. Perfect fit!
Cognitive Dissidence is a real bitch! And our biggest threat to our country here in the US.
SiouxcitySue comments on Jun 15, 2019:
As the Dems heat up their push-back candidates to trump, and the MSM (all of it) has leapt into a feeding frenzy reminiscent of sharks, I have been mulling this over for a while. I feel lost in my attempt to find Real News. FSTV is so laid back that I often go to sleep with it, MSM gives us what ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 19, 2019:
@FrayedBear I'm a scrap hauler for PSC----combination rolloff. Today I listen to the last nights Rick Sanchez and the Keiser Report. Keiser----- Markets! Finance! Scandal! Keiser Report is a no holds barred look at the shocking scandals behind the global financial headlines. From the collusion between Wall Street and Capitol Hill to the latest banking crime wave, from bogus government economic statistics to rigged stock markets, nothing escapes the eye of Max Keiser, a former stockbroker, inventor of the virtual specialist technology and co-founder of the Hollywood Stock Exchange. With the help of Keiser's co-host, Stacy Herbert, and guests from around the world, Keiser Report tells you what is really going on in the global economy. Beware the facehack coin!
Massive Embezzlement Scandal Threatens Juan Guaido’s Political Future [theantimedia.
powder comments on Jun 18, 2019:
Socialism is a mix. Govt control basic utilities but other than that? Private enterprise go for it! Americans have a weird definition of socialism, I think a hangover from "reds under the beds" days which, by the way, is universally known as a bad thing, McCarthyism. Currently in round II.
William_Mary replies on Jun 18, 2019:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x7oVwhHok&t=48s
Cognitive Dissidence is a real bitch! And our biggest threat to our country here in the US.
SiouxcitySue comments on Jun 15, 2019:
As the Dems heat up their push-back candidates to trump, and the MSM (all of it) has leapt into a feeding frenzy reminiscent of sharks, I have been mulling this over for a while. I feel lost in my attempt to find Real News. FSTV is so laid back that I often go to sleep with it, MSM gives us what ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 18, 2019:
@FrayedBear Mary did put the RT app on my lap top. She also ordered me a speaker to plug into it! I think I might be set!
Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.
GreenAtheist comments on Jun 16, 2019:
Is Chris Hedges Democracy NOW and Ralph Nader on your list ?
William_Mary replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@GreenAtheist I hope to see more of you in the group, look forward to a new face and opinions actually! I already have a liking toward you just from you name :-)
Is Social Media a Parasite on Society Watching the Hawks had a discussion about social media last...
altschmerz comments on Jun 14, 2019:
If you’re talking about the Russian involvement in the election, wasn’t it found that they *did* try to influence the election through social media and Mueller found proof of that? That’s probably not the sole reason Chump won – and people are accusing liberals who bash the Democratic party ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@altschmerz all I have to look at is his position on Venezuela. Same as AOC and the rest of the so called progressives. Israel. Syria. Iraq and Libya. He kept and keeps supporting war in more ways then one. And smells of "regime" change on the other hand knowing the narrative being pushed is false. He could have at least voted against any bills to keep funding those wars and or start ups like Libya and Syria to at least look the part. But he didn't even wear that mask. He should have voted no and when he was in the spot light during 2016 should have spoken truth to how 5000 men and women went to war over and sacrificed over a lie. Which in my world was essentially murder of our own people. And that is exactly how he should have voiced it while using the evidence out there. George fucking Bush on stage laughing about not being able to find WMD's under the chairs of the freaks behind him who have been conditioned laughed with him. I would have ran that constantly along with Clinton's compliance and false statement of supporting that war to only have money to rebuild the area the towers went down. As though they were going to just leave a big ole hole there in the ground. Seriously!?!
Welcome to Out Of The Illusion.
GreenAtheist comments on Jun 16, 2019:
Is Chris Hedges Democracy NOW and Ralph Nader on your list ?
William_Mary replies on Jun 16, 2019:
I post many of Hedges RT shows here on the weekends. I don't get many members who seem to like watching videos here so I tend to try to keep them on the weekends when I have time to view them before posting them. That way I can add my own comments to them if I have any points I want to make to it also. And his articles can be found throughout the months. Hedges is one of my favorites being he's a socialistic minded political figure. Right now he has one out with the managing editor of Wikileaks. I'm not getting many hits on Wikileaks or Assange to spend my time on it. I do also post Nader"s articles as they come in through Common Dreams, usually, and Truthout. Another favorite. I'm not however to big on Democracy Now. Not that I haven't posted any material from them, but I find they tend to tow the party line to often to spend a lot of time on them. But if it involves one of my favorite journalist on current issues, yes. You're more than welcome to post them if you would like to do so. Fair warning though. :-) If see what I consider false establishment narrative, I'll engage a debate with you over it. But I promise to do so with respect and substance from other articles and or journalist along with my developed opinion doing so. I don't take kindly to people who only deliver useless established rhetoric without intelligently based information in which they formed an opinion on that I can conduct an intellectual discussion on. If I want that I'll go back to facehack! If I provide substance, I expect you use it, and I'll give you the same respect. Telling me my sources are in any sense useless because of person or location or using rhetoric of establishment narrative that is used to deter alternative journalism without at least giving it a read, is a quick way for me to lose interest in a person. I then begin to see the makings of a troll. I'm fairly good at knowing when someone has ignored my post and comments from ignorance with a particular goal or simple need to be seen and heard.
Is Social Media a Parasite on Society Watching the Hawks had a discussion about social media last...
altschmerz comments on Jun 14, 2019:
If you’re talking about the Russian involvement in the election, wasn’t it found that they *did* try to influence the election through social media and Mueller found proof of that? That’s probably not the sole reason Chump won – and people are accusing liberals who bash the Democratic party ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@altschmerz (What happens next? The constant striving to be clever or interesting. I’ve faced this. The need for clicks, likes, shares, and all of the other electronic validation of our inner life and outer existence. The search for acceptance. Like a computer-based revisitation of high school.) I went through this also during the 2016 election cycle. From late 2015 when I found out Sanders was running I went on the war path to get him noticed. My time debating Clinton and republican supporters, posting the pluses of a Sanders compared to the history's of the republicans, Clinton's lies and policies and what the continuance of them would bring brought many likes my way. It was indeed addicting getting well over 100 likes at times. Dozens in many instances. Posting quotes of failed history from those people and converting their lies to seen reality using videos against these peoples arguments were a priceless value in likes. Instances like Clinton's betrayal of Warren on the bailout bill and her botched attempt to be a hero under sniper fire in Bosnia went off the charts. Helping people understand how to change party affiliation to vote for Sanders from all types of people, independents and republicans alike, made me feel astonishing useful within my goal to try and change our country. Especially when many of those people were republicans of middle to older age groups that have been republican voters for decades feeling lost in a party they haven't recognized for years. Change is in the air with the American people. Which is why it was so disappointing when Sanders let us all down and continues to do so today. But he obviously would have just turned out to be another Obama anyways. IMOHO Much of that still lives inside me today though within this group. I still spend way to much time doing this attempting to get the that message out. But today I try to to do most of it early on weekend mornings so I can spend time with Mary on the bike, weather permitting. It's a common issue with "real" journalist today, having use to write for established news sources at one time. Since about the 80's those that had stories they wanted to get out that went against politicians and the government as a whole, editors wouldn't allow their stories to go out or heavily redacted their material to a point the story was useless. The wrath of the government and intelligence agencies was a fear the editors had if they went against their agenda. The story of Gary Webb is a perfect example, his relationship with Robert Parry, who both were MSM at that point in time. You can read about that here>>> https://consortiumnews.com/2018/01/28/robert-parrys-legacy-and-the-future-of-consortiumnews/ Which is a look into Robert Parry's life and how the first internet news site ...
Cognitive Dissidence is a real bitch! And our biggest threat to our country here in the US.
SiouxcitySue comments on Jun 15, 2019:
As the Dems heat up their push-back candidates to trump, and the MSM (all of it) has leapt into a feeding frenzy reminiscent of sharks, I have been mulling this over for a while. I feel lost in my attempt to find Real News. FSTV is so laid back that I often go to sleep with it, MSM gives us what ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@FrayedBear I'll have to look into that! Mary probably has an idea on that for me. 👍
Cognitive Dissidence is a real bitch! And our biggest threat to our country here in the US.
SiouxcitySue comments on Jun 15, 2019:
As the Dems heat up their push-back candidates to trump, and the MSM (all of it) has leapt into a feeding frenzy reminiscent of sharks, I have been mulling this over for a while. I feel lost in my attempt to find Real News. FSTV is so laid back that I often go to sleep with it, MSM gives us what ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@SiouxcitySue well truth can be either what you want it to be, or how you manage the information being delivered. I will argue most people, as we see who follow the establishment main stream media loyally, tend to show signs of, what they want it to be, accepting what they hear blissfully. No doubt you have a sense of what truth is to you. As a member here you've displayed relatively much the same knowledge and understanding of what a sense of truth is as to myself and most participating members here. Which is why I have suggested RT at times to you. For an example. As I drive for a living and I always listen to NPR all day. I often joke on here that I do so because it keeps me informed of what news is being main streamed for the day and to keep my bullshit meter calibrated. And then I can relate some of my post to that string of events. Being they and their independent talks shows mostly tend to follow the establishment line and MSM which goes against over 90% of the truth I have a sense for and believe. Which I think you'll find by watching RT. With RT you're going to get a completely different view than what you get on any MSM news source whether it's Fox, MSNBC, or CNN. Much of it will relate to what you see here in this group from the independent news sources I use and the more progressive people I follow. A totally different reality from American people, for the most part, who go against the establishment and MSM narratives they deliver. Which is why they are on RT! Because the establishment ruling class owned news corporations will not give them a place to voice their opinions in which they left or were forced out of. btw--we also are on Direct TV basic. RT is on channel 321 here. I believe we have the basic anyways hmmmm Nothing special as far as paid channels.
And the assholes clap!?
altschmerz comments on Jun 15, 2019:
It happened in Texas. Nuff said. I think, despite the mainstream press not questioning the narrative, that the idea of a war with Iran isn't going to be quite as popular as the war with Iraq initially was. This blogger is a retired Naval officer who is not a leftist by any means, but having ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 16, 2019:
That is quite an interesting article. Thank you! You should have posted it.
Cognitive Dissidence is a real bitch! And our biggest threat to our country here in the US.
SiouxcitySue comments on Jun 15, 2019:
As the Dems heat up their push-back candidates to trump, and the MSM (all of it) has leapt into a feeding frenzy reminiscent of sharks, I have been mulling this over for a while. I feel lost in my attempt to find Real News. FSTV is so laid back that I often go to sleep with it, MSM gives us what ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 16, 2019:
@FrayedBear I don't have a phone for that. I'd rather use my lap top at home anyways. Thanks for the information though! If my tablet was louder I'd put it on there though and listen while working. But I drive a semi and it is quite louder than my tablet speakers :-(
Cognitive Dissidence is a real bitch! And our biggest threat to our country here in the US.
SiouxcitySue comments on Jun 15, 2019:
As the Dems heat up their push-back candidates to trump, and the MSM (all of it) has leapt into a feeding frenzy reminiscent of sharks, I have been mulling this over for a while. I feel lost in my attempt to find Real News. FSTV is so laid back that I often go to sleep with it, MSM gives us what ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 15, 2019:
I watch FSTV occasionally also. It provides some good shows but the quality in video really sucks at times. I would recommend RT again but I get the sense you have a problem with it because it's a Russian government run entity. My satellite company just increased my monthly billing and we're getting ready to go back to Spectrum :-( again. They don't cover RT so I'm going to have to watch it on the internet now. If you have it I would highly suggest you give Rick Sanchez a chance! He does a nightly news show at 7 and a repeat an hour later. He's out of Florida and use to be an anchor for a local station in his area before going to RT. Their daily news coverage is pretty good also for world news. I think you might like Chris Hedges. Possibly, Watching the Hawks. America's Lawyer with Mike Papantonio. He does mainly corporate coverage on tax laws , environment issues, drug companies, anything our government lets them get away with.
Is Social Media a Parasite on Society Watching the Hawks had a discussion about social media last...
altschmerz comments on Jun 14, 2019:
If you’re talking about the Russian involvement in the election, wasn’t it found that they *did* try to influence the election through social media and Mueller found proof of that? That’s probably not the sole reason Chump won – and people are accusing liberals who bash the Democratic party ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 15, 2019:
@altschmerz per your link---(Mueller III indicted 13 Russian individuals and three Russian organizations for engaging in operations to interfere with U.S. political and electoral processes, including the 2016 presidential election. This was a significant step forward in exposing a surreptitious social media campaign and holding accountable those responsible for this attack.) Which are the same people I referred to above that Mueller delayed hearings on and never attempted to bring back to charge. With his investigation now over means that it remains an unproven accusation. An indictment is not proof of wrong doing without charges and proceedings with evidence proving illegal actions leading to a conviction. It, an indictment, is simply a means to move forward to being charged of criminal action. He delayed, therefore the court can not place a judgment to continue with charges. End result, no court judgment to continue with charges, means no conviction, accusation only remains. That = what we have today in the minds of the ignorant, a conditioning to the belief of criminal action without proof. {“Defendants, posing as U.S. persons and creating false U.S. personas, operated social media pages and groups designed to attract U.S. audiences. These groups and pages, which addressed divisive U.S. political and social issues, falsely claimed to be controlled by U.S. activists when, in fact, they were controlled by Defendants. Defendants also used the stolen identities of real U.S. persons to post on ORGANIZATION-controlled social media accounts. Over time, these social media accounts became Defendants’ means to reach significant numbers of Americans for purposes of interfering with the U.S. political system, including the presidential election of 2016.” } I'll address the illegal action first. If Mueller had evidence of this then why didn't he move forward with this aspect of his discovery? Surely there's nothing so classified in that aspect he couldn't have moved forward to address this. This is simple basic legal affairs that are in courts on a routine basis. Second--The other actions in that are committed by political groups for every election. David Brock did it for Clinton in which they paid trolls to infiltrate social media groups to spread lies and create discord on opponent groups. No one has ever been brought up on charges for these actions. Think tanks and various other biased groups have been doing this for those they support since social media has been around. Only now it matters? I haven't heard of anyone investigating this "crime" and I assure you it's going on now today as we are already in the 2020 campaign cycle. Again, influence is not against the law or against anyone's right. Although our government is attempting to ...
Is Social Media a Parasite on Society Watching the Hawks had a discussion about social media last...
altschmerz comments on Jun 14, 2019:
If you’re talking about the Russian involvement in the election, wasn’t it found that they *did* try to influence the election through social media and Mueller found proof of that? That’s probably not the sole reason Chump won – and people are accusing liberals who bash the Democratic party ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 15, 2019:
The discussion had nothing to do with the Russia issue. It was about social media of and in itself. The effects of it on us. God dam it! watch the content! It's only about 5 minutes long LOL. What the fuck, are you allergic to RT like those other rhetoric followers :-) Ok, I'll bite. I guess I missed the part where Mueller actually has evidence the Russian government sent out internet trolls to influence the elections to help Trump. Or set up groups on government funds to orchestrate these actions. Can you please provide that for me. I'd like to educate myself to that so I can quit spreading false information. About the closest thing I know about related to the Russia issue is the accusations of a click bait farm from Saint Petersburg Russia having spent merely 100k on a few adds and a few groups that only reached, well, some ungodly few people that it barely applies to daily use by billions of people. So if you just happened to get one of these post it's more likely someone you knew or a group you're in shared it for you to see. Which by the way would make them and now you liable for helping Trump get elected also, if you so chose to share it also. Even though only, if I remember right, 2 of those adds had anything to do with the election. On another note. As Mueller attempted to relate this click bait farm to the Russian government on indictments, and a hearing coming after, he, Mueller, decided he wanted to delay the case during proceedings. Being he didn't expect anyone from the click bait farm to show up. Well, their lawyers did. And they, the lawyers, proceeded to ask for the evidence against their clients. Which would be the 12 or 13 businessmen you might remember having been brought up that year that were falsely accused of being the Russian government, and or some aspects of Russian intelligence. This is when Mueller asked for a delay citing classified material was in the evidence, leaving the lawyers no ability to argue their clients case, leaving Mueller to backtrack to provide evidence for them to legally do so. Mueller never brought the case back to hearing, or ever mentioned it again to my knowledge. Mueller has ended his investigation. If Mueller concluded there was influence, he did so without evidence. Where do you want to go with influence? WE INFLUENCE ELECTIONS WITH OUR GOD DAM VOTES! Influence is whirling around us constantly with everything we say and do as we interact with others. We don't influence other government elections, we interfere in their elections! There's no evidence anyone from the Russian government interfered with our elections. The Russians have the right to influence all they want. There's no way to stop influence until one is dead. They have access to the world via radio, TV, and internet just like ...
The look on Biden’s face.
Rob1948 comments on Jun 14, 2019:
You know, of course, that women have been know to do that very thing. https://images.app.goo.gl/MX1ZW2zgtueyei6v6
William_Mary replies on Jun 15, 2019:
@Rob1948 Nice try Rob. Funny after all your time here being relatively quiet, only providing one liner responses, again of no substance, often making no sense or even understandable, you've decided to now become combatant and rude. You took the writing out of context and away from the narrative to fit those lacks in your character. Making yourself look even more like a troll for what? I would imagine most people here know wagging a finger at someone is considered rude, unless 2 or more are engaged in a bit of humor. Or have a relative that uses this action out of some response to get a point across. But this moment has significant meaning to it that you want to attempt to use to either support Biden or belittle the group, or both. Your contempt behavior is becoming rather disgusting and tiring.
New Testing Revealed Popular Kids Cereals Contaminated With Weedkiller Roundup "Does General ...
Piece2YourPuzzle comments on Jun 12, 2019:
Holy shit! Surprising, but not surprising.
William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2019:
It makes me wonder what the ruling class do for their food. We know from reports they all tend to know or know of each other in a vast degree. The video I posted a while back of Abby Martin with Peter Phillips goes into that a little. How well they know each other that is. Who Really Rules The World? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGh1Su7-ok=youtu.be So do they do a vast majority of their food from local farming? Rely on their wealth to keep themselves healthier than us by some means? Of course they are able to afford the best healthcare. But there's only so far that can get you if you're consuming the same foods as the rest of the population?
New Testing Revealed Popular Kids Cereals Contaminated With Weedkiller Roundup "Does General ...
St-Sinner comments on Jun 12, 2019:
WTF
William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2019:
I know, right.
Australian police chief links media raids to US-led “Five Eyes” spy network [wsws.
powder comments on Jun 12, 2019:
The real reason I believe. Foreign interference.
William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2019:
@FrayedBear coming to your area soon, worldwide agenda. Keep speaking up. Hopefully we can wake the rest of these people stuck in their delusional reality up before it's to late.
The look on Biden’s face.
Rob1948 comments on Jun 14, 2019:
You know, of course, that women have been know to do that very thing. https://images.app.goo.gl/MX1ZW2zgtueyei6v6
William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2019:
Nice missing the point, again.
RAY McGOVERN: DOJ Bloodhounds on the Scent of John Brennan With Justice Department ...
Rob1948 comments on Jun 13, 2019:
Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha Fabricator of “Russiagate?” Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha You do realize that the Senate Intelligence Committee agrees that Russia ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2019:
@Rob1948 you finally got something right!
RAY McGOVERN: DOJ Bloodhounds on the Scent of John Brennan With Justice Department ...
Rob1948 comments on Jun 13, 2019:
Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha Fabricator of “Russiagate?” Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha You do realize that the Senate Intelligence Committee agrees that Russia ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2019:
@Piece2YourPuzzle I think he just admitted to being a troll. If all we have to offer here is fake news, why stay? He obviously isn't using the articles to advance his knowledge or intelligence. What else do I call this type of interaction?
RAY McGOVERN: DOJ Bloodhounds on the Scent of John Brennan With Justice Department ...
Rob1948 comments on Jun 13, 2019:
Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha Fabricator of “Russiagate?” Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha You do realize that the Senate Intelligence Committee agrees that Russia ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2019:
@Rob1948 the article provided links to the VIPS work on their investigation into the alleged hacks. If you were to have used them then you could have used the information within to build a debate of intellect. Using the facts you believe in. But that would be hard to do being you've provided no facts of yet anyways. You're only giving us establishment rhetoric and opinion with no substance. Which is the very type of insult Pieces might be referring to. I'll refer to. You're in the wrong group Rob to use troll like methods of using conditioning rhetoric. For one, as the creator of this group, I'm fairly informed on that in which I post. Pieces is obvious well informed also who uses fact base debate skills. Power can hold his own also. All you're doing is making yourself out to looking like a troll without the ability to conduct an intelligent debate. We hear everything you have said on MSM and from the establishment. In case you missed it, that's what this group works from! So those that make comments here are more geared to combat that useless rhetoric of their delusional reality that you seem to live in. Feel free to add some substance at anytime though. I personally will not waste anymore time on someone who can't provide a meaningful debate without substance.
RAY McGOVERN: DOJ Bloodhounds on the Scent of John Brennan With Justice Department ...
Rob1948 comments on Jun 13, 2019:
Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha Fabricator of “Russiagate?” Hahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahaha You do realize that the Senate Intelligence Committee agrees that Russia ...
William_Mary replies on Jun 14, 2019:
@Rob1948 that statement right there tells everyone who thinks outside of the box you've been conditioned to except only the rhetoric that the establishment and MSM provide for you. It's called, perception management. You used the very weapon they started that program with, using the media against the public, on a member of your own society who is attempting to educate you. The DNC wasn't hacked! The data was downloaded on a thumbs drive by someone inside the DNC. All extensive exploration into the information released was debunked by X intelligence and military people and other outside experts, and they concluded the hack narrative was not possible. The rate of transfer of the data could not be possible over the internet! It had to be done from a DNC server at the rate of speed in which the transfer was done.
Peace Is a Word That the West Has Taken From the Afghans With no end of war in sight, this past...
powder comments on Jun 11, 2019:
Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires. Killed the USSR, made them broke.
William_Mary replies on Jun 11, 2019:
@powder I'm to a point I question even what I've been told about the Taliban for so long. That goes for North Korea also. I know that the government of Afghanistan has been milking our tax dollars and riddled with corruption. Same goes in Iraq. Our tax dollars seem to be available for everyone in the Middle East to just reach in the safe and take what they want. That includes the terrorist who we fund and provide weapons and equipment to.
Peace Is a Word That the West Has Taken From the Afghans With no end of war in sight, this past...
powder comments on Jun 11, 2019:
Afghanistan is known as the graveyard of empires. Killed the USSR, made them broke.
William_Mary replies on Jun 11, 2019:
It's breaking us too!

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