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Becoming an Atheist made me realize how much religion has poisoned everything(WARNING Long Post) : ...
barjoe comments on Jan 9, 2021:
I don't like to quote Marx because I'm far from a Marxist but this is his great moment for me. "Religion is the opiate of the masses"
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
"I don't like to quote Marx because I'm far from a Marxist but this is his great moment for me. "Religion is the opiate of the masses" "
ha, 180 degrees away from *...after He has destroyed all rulers, powers, and authority* huh
why do we pay so much attention to gnostics?
(*we're tired of this manna, give us some meat to eat!*}
barjoe comments on Jan 9, 2021:
I don't like to quote Marx because I'm far from a Marxist but this is his great moment for me. "Religion is the opiate of the masses"
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
"I don't like to quote Marx because I'm far from a Marxist but this is his great moment for me. "Religion is the opiate of the masses" "
ha, 180 degrees away from *...after He has destroyed all rulers, powers, and authority* huh
why do we pay so much attention to gnostics?
(*we're tired of this manna, give us some meat to eat!*}
Becoming an Atheist made me realize how much religion has poisoned everything(WARNING Long Post) : ...
DenoPenno comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Religion does poison everything. Then we pretend to be so smart when we debate the importance of religion and wonder if gods could be real.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
ok so ill suggest fwiw that atheism can easily become a "religion" also, and even is, for most, as indicated at "when i *became*..."
bc after all, what does "religion" mean? The def used to be "engaging in rituals, done by rote, 'i drink a cup of coffee every morning, *religiously.*' "
so, if you will accept it, i submit that most or all ppl "worship" something, be it money, self, whatever, and you are both as "religious" as it gets, imo, and Gnostics to boot, like most all religious ppl are; "Religion *does...*," "*is* a great place to start," etc
so, ima leave and let y'all continue practicing your religion now, but i hope you will consider your position
DenoPenno comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Religion does poison everything. Then we pretend to be so smart when we debate the importance of religion and wonder if gods could be real.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
ok so ill suggest fwiw that atheism can easily become a "religion" also, and even is, for most, as indicated at "when i *became*..."
bc after all, what does "religion" mean? The def used to be "engaging in rituals, done by rote, 'i drink a cup of coffee every morning, *religiously.*' "
so, if you will accept it, i submit that most or all ppl "worship" something, be it money, self, whatever, and you are both as "religious" as it gets, imo, and Gnostics to boot, like most all religious ppl are; "Religion *does...*," "*is* a great place to start," etc
so, ima leave and let y'all continue practicing your religion now, but i hope you will consider your position
Prayer Group Tells God to “Fight” Justice John Roberts If He Won’t “Bow to You” | Beth ...
KKGator comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Will it be live streamed on network tv, or pay-per-view?
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
love the avatar btw :)
KKGator comments on Jan 9, 2021:
Will it be live streamed on network tv, or pay-per-view?
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
love the avatar btw :)
When I ask a religious friend about the factual accuracy behind the existence of God, they would be ...
Storm1752 comments on Jan 8, 2021:
The key, which you atheists keep sneaking into EVERYTHING, is believing IN god. Wondering if a god (read IT) MIGHT exist is the right way to put it.
Stop trying to sound so smart; it shows
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
gnostics, huh? how hard is it really to decipher *tree of knowledge* anyway?
Storm1752 comments on Jan 8, 2021:
The key, which you atheists keep sneaking into EVERYTHING, is believing IN god. Wondering if a god (read IT) MIGHT exist is the right way to put it.
Stop trying to sound so smart; it shows
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
gnostics, huh? how hard is it really to decipher *tree of knowledge* anyway?
I still have a lot of old Christian friends in my Facebook posts.
Sierra4 comments on Jan 9, 2021:
God wanted Hillary to win in 2016 and made sure she got the most votes. Unfortunately he/she forgot about that electoral college. 😷😁
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
@Canndue we always look for where to place blame, huh
proves y'all are all gnostics, maybe! lol
Sierra4 comments on Jan 9, 2021:
God wanted Hillary to win in 2016 and made sure she got the most votes. Unfortunately he/she forgot about that electoral college. 😷😁
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 9, 2021:
@Canndue we always look for where to place blame, huh
proves y'all are all gnostics, maybe! lol
Does God exist?
DenoPenno comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Does god exist? I've never met him. He called my name once while I was working underneath my car in an apartment complex parking lot. Why then? What sort of frigging joke was that? This was in the days when believers cried hearing a preacher claim " you are nobody until god calls your name."
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
*I said "you are elohim"*
DenoPenno comments on Jan 7, 2021:
Does god exist? I've never met him. He called my name once while I was working underneath my car in an apartment complex parking lot. Why then? What sort of frigging joke was that? This was in the days when believers cried hearing a preacher claim " you are nobody until god calls your name."
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
*I said "you are elohim"*
Does God exist?
CuddyCruiser comments on Jan 6, 2021:
This makes the sheep just as stupid, if not more so than those who rip them off.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
hmm, i'm kinda thinkin that is implied by "sheep" eh
btw theres a great...parable, i guess, about "shearing sheep"
CuddyCruiser comments on Jan 6, 2021:
This makes the sheep just as stupid, if not more so than those who rip them off.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
hmm, i'm kinda thinkin that is implied by "sheep" eh
btw theres a great...parable, i guess, about "shearing sheep"
Does God exist?
Canndue comments on Jan 7, 2021:
I’m beginning to think there is....only a god could fuck up this country so badly.....
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
i dunno, Hitler did a pretty good job, so did Mussolini, etc. You have dollars in your pocket, right? Iow you actively participate in manipulated fiat despite the obvious drawbacks? :)
Canndue comments on Jan 7, 2021:
I’m beginning to think there is....only a god could fuck up this country so badly.....
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
i dunno, Hitler did a pretty good job, so did Mussolini, etc. You have dollars in your pocket, right? Iow you actively participate in manipulated fiat despite the obvious drawbacks? :)
Does God exist?
aplaceintime comments on Jan 7, 2021:
the very fact that such a question can be asked assures the answer is no. if one existed then it would be obvious and no one would ever ask it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
i agree, but suggest that "existence" may not be the standard, i mean does skinwalker ranch exist or no? Does quantum entanglement exist?
aplaceintime comments on Jan 7, 2021:
the very fact that such a question can be asked assures the answer is no. if one existed then it would be obvious and no one would ever ask it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
i agree, but suggest that "existence" may not be the standard, i mean does skinwalker ranch exist or no? Does quantum entanglement exist?
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Canndue ok well opposite me, but nonetheless hopefully the point is made? Fwiw what is translated to us as "fear" is the same word for "respect" i guess
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Canndue ok well opposite me, but nonetheless hopefully the point is made? Fwiw what is translated to us as "fear" is the same word for "respect" i guess
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
abyers1970 comments on Jan 7, 2021:
I was Christian for 30 years and asked myself this question many times. I was scared of hell so I quickly prayed for forgiveness for asking this question. Now I feel so stupid for doing that.
The answer is that Christians don’t believe god is at fault. It’s the damn devil who does all this ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
ok, just so you understand that the Bible does not forward those principles at all, or at least the pov is demonstrably warped; all are forgiven, Yah is not our judge, all go to the same place, and all are judged for their works, iow ezackly how we judge others.
as to Yah being evil, it maybe should be understood that there was a literal law of sin and death then, and parents routinely sacrificed their children to Marduk by burning them alive
hmm, no too different from where we are back to right now i guess huh lol
abyers1970 comments on Jan 7, 2021:
I was Christian for 30 years and asked myself this question many times. I was scared of hell so I quickly prayed for forgiveness for asking this question. Now I feel so stupid for doing that.
The answer is that Christians don’t believe god is at fault. It’s the damn devil who does all this ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
ok, just so you understand that the Bible does not forward those principles at all, or at least the pov is demonstrably warped; all are forgiven, Yah is not our judge, all go to the same place, and all are judged for their works, iow ezackly how we judge others.
as to Yah being evil, it maybe should be understood that there was a literal law of sin and death then, and parents routinely sacrificed their children to Marduk by burning them alive
hmm, no too different from where we are back to right now i guess huh lol
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
bobwjr comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Because they are delusional
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
"...and we're not." lol
bobwjr comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Because they are delusional
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
"...and we're not." lol
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Canndue "growing up, I heard members of one sect talking about how loving god was, then I heard from another sect how you had to fear him. Never could reconcile that."
so, growing up, did you fear your dad? did you also love him? My prob with this analogy is i didnt love my dad, but i guess most sons do eh
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Canndue "growing up, I heard members of one sect talking about how loving god was, then I heard from another sect how you had to fear him. Never could reconcile that."
so, growing up, did you fear your dad? did you also love him? My prob with this analogy is i didnt love my dad, but i guess most sons do eh
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Hages ok well you might keep an open mind at the Bible, which has zero to do with what believers think it does, and even says so in very plain language, *He who seeks to save his soul shall lose it* etc. much more fulfilling to beat them at their own game imo
and ps the nicer you are about it, the more insane they go lol
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Hages ok well you might keep an open mind at the Bible, which has zero to do with what believers think it does, and even says so in very plain language, *He who seeks to save his soul shall lose it* etc. much more fulfilling to beat them at their own game imo
and ps the nicer you are about it, the more insane they go lol
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
Fernapple comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Because god gives them what they want. A god is made by its worshipers not the other way round. And if you take someone who does not want to make the effort to be a good human being, and say to them. Join my club and that makes you superior to all the other humans, with bragging rights. Then they ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Fernapple probably! i have asperger's, and about as much tact as a three year old i guess lol
Fernapple comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Because god gives them what they want. A god is made by its worshipers not the other way round. And if you take someone who does not want to make the effort to be a good human being, and say to them. Join my club and that makes you superior to all the other humans, with bragging rights. Then they ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Fernapple probably! i have asperger's, and about as much tact as a three year old i guess lol
TIL archaeological evidence shows us the Dark Ages really happened.
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 6, 2021:
most Xtians are really Cult of Sol Invictus, and as "Roman" as it gets prolly, marching in files and rows proverbially and whatnot, dunno how this pov might play into the reality here tho?
Seems like society is (most likely deliberately) being crashed again now, guess the rothschilds and co ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Hages well, and Warburgs, et al, the owners of the Federal Reserve, those above the law, however you might put it. The georgia guidestone ppl. The reason we think inflation is normal. The ppl who care not who makes the laws, as long as they control the money. i mean the rothschilds, not really? JFK was pretty clear on it i guess, and it was a rothschild who openly threatened Lincoln with a civil war if he didnt kowtow. Lincoln's "greenbacks" caused a renaissance, and they were the first thing pulled after his assassination. Woodrow even admitted what a huge mistake he made in 1913. hell i'd provide some links but one can hardly even search the stuff lol, buried on pg 10 or whatever
but i mean you gotta know that the rich get richer when there's blood in the streets eh. Why kill Qaddafi? "Follow the money" rarely leads one astray imo
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 6, 2021:
most Xtians are really Cult of Sol Invictus, and as "Roman" as it gets prolly, marching in files and rows proverbially and whatnot, dunno how this pov might play into the reality here tho?
Seems like society is (most likely deliberately) being crashed again now, guess the rothschilds and co ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@Hages well, and Warburgs, et al, the owners of the Federal Reserve, those above the law, however you might put it. The georgia guidestone ppl. The reason we think inflation is normal. The ppl who care not who makes the laws, as long as they control the money. i mean the rothschilds, not really? JFK was pretty clear on it i guess, and it was a rothschild who openly threatened Lincoln with a civil war if he didnt kowtow. Lincoln's "greenbacks" caused a renaissance, and they were the first thing pulled after his assassination. Woodrow even admitted what a huge mistake he made in 1913. hell i'd provide some links but one can hardly even search the stuff lol, buried on pg 10 or whatever
but i mean you gotta know that the rich get richer when there's blood in the streets eh. Why kill Qaddafi? "Follow the money" rarely leads one astray imo
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
xenoview comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Faithfools don't read the OT. Faithfools turn a blind eye to the death cause by their god in the OT.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
ok y'all know none of those slaughters were literal, right...i got a link somewhere if anyone cares
xenoview comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Faithfools don't read the OT. Faithfools turn a blind eye to the death cause by their god in the OT.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
ok y'all know none of those slaughters were literal, right...i got a link somewhere if anyone cares
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 6, 2021:
*"Divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory which proposes that an action's status as morally good is equivalent to whether it is commanded by God."* (Divine Command Theory -- Wiki)
What believers are taught: (under 2 min.)
https://youtu.be/xfbiEGK5Bxg
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@VictoriaNotes hey, 501 (6) c3 (6) 1023 (6) i mean there it is lol
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 6, 2021:
*"Divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory which proposes that an action's status as morally good is equivalent to whether it is commanded by God."* (Divine Command Theory -- Wiki)
What believers are taught: (under 2 min.)
https://youtu.be/xfbiEGK5Bxg
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 7, 2021:
@VictoriaNotes hey, 501 (6) c3 (6) 1023 (6) i mean there it is lol
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 6, 2021:
*"Divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory which proposes that an action's status as morally good is equivalent to whether it is commanded by God."* (Divine Command Theory -- Wiki)
What believers are taught: (under 2 min.)
https://youtu.be/xfbiEGK5Bxg
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@VictoriaNotes bingo lol, i guess. Plenty of direct statements being ignored along the way tho, "I came that you might have *life*, more abundantly," *No one has ever gone up to heaven, All go to the same place,* on and on
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 6, 2021:
*"Divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory which proposes that an action's status as morally good is equivalent to whether it is commanded by God."* (Divine Command Theory -- Wiki)
What believers are taught: (under 2 min.)
https://youtu.be/xfbiEGK5Bxg
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@VictoriaNotes bingo lol, i guess. Plenty of direct statements being ignored along the way tho, "I came that you might have *life*, more abundantly," *No one has ever gone up to heaven, All go to the same place,* on and on
The Proud Boys Are Raking In Donations from a Christian Crowdfunding Site
Freedompath comments on Jan 6, 2021:
A lot of people must have money to ‘burn?’ This is stranger than fiction! Or, are they trying to encourage violence, from the rejects of our society?
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
i guess this is basically how religions implode?
Freedompath comments on Jan 6, 2021:
A lot of people must have money to ‘burn?’ This is stranger than fiction! Or, are they trying to encourage violence, from the rejects of our society?
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
i guess this is basically how religions implode?
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@Hages man, i hope you dont waste the rest of your life ripping on the deceived bro, that is surely just more deception?
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
@Hages man, i hope you dont waste the rest of your life ripping on the deceived bro, that is surely just more deception?
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
i would agree @ part two there--for either side, mostly--but the question to me becomes moot when "hell and punishment in the afterlife" cannot be quoted from the Bible, like most believers think
Canndue comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Excellent question. But then, rational thought really isn’t part of the equation.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
i would agree @ part two there--for either side, mostly--but the question to me becomes moot when "hell and punishment in the afterlife" cannot be quoted from the Bible, like most believers think
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
Fernapple comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Because god gives them what they want. A god is made by its worshipers not the other way round. And if you take someone who does not want to make the effort to be a good human being, and say to them. Join my club and that makes you superior to all the other humans, with bragging rights. Then they ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
and thus their hypocrisy is revealed, right. Im noting that most "believers" actually hate the Bible with a passion...at least when *i'm* Quoting it to them :)
Fernapple comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Because god gives them what they want. A god is made by its worshipers not the other way round. And if you take someone who does not want to make the effort to be a good human being, and say to them. Join my club and that makes you superior to all the other humans, with bragging rights. Then they ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
and thus their hypocrisy is revealed, right. Im noting that most "believers" actually hate the Bible with a passion...at least when *i'm* Quoting it to them :)
Why do religious people let god get away with being so horrible? : atheism
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 6, 2021:
*"Divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory which proposes that an action's status as morally good is equivalent to whether it is commanded by God."* (Divine Command Theory -- Wiki)
What believers are taught: (under 2 min.)
https://youtu.be/xfbiEGK5Bxg
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
penal substitution seems to be pretty fairly disallowed @ *No son of man may die for another's sins*, but i wonder if many of these theories are not developed based upon a lack of understanding the Naive dialectic, in which the Bible was likely written? Thus "Jesus, of Nazareth" becomes "John Doe, from Nowhere," or iow analogies are being employed that are now being taken literally? So, as Craig says, a non-starter imo
VictoriaNotes comments on Jan 6, 2021:
*"Divine command theory is a meta-ethical theory which proposes that an action's status as morally good is equivalent to whether it is commanded by God."* (Divine Command Theory -- Wiki)
What believers are taught: (under 2 min.)
https://youtu.be/xfbiEGK5Bxg
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
penal substitution seems to be pretty fairly disallowed @ *No son of man may die for another's sins*, but i wonder if many of these theories are not developed based upon a lack of understanding the Naive dialectic, in which the Bible was likely written? Thus "Jesus, of Nazareth" becomes "John Doe, from Nowhere," or iow analogies are being employed that are now being taken literally? So, as Craig says, a non-starter imo
Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline | Live Science
Rufus_Maximus comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Controversial statement alert: The social sciences aren't really sciences.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
ya, i'm not really getting "the opposite had been expected"
Rufus_Maximus comments on Jan 6, 2021:
Controversial statement alert: The social sciences aren't really sciences.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 6, 2021:
ya, i'm not really getting "the opposite had been expected"
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
Leelu comments on Dec 30, 2020:
No verifiable evidence for gods. When there's evidence, I'll reconsider.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
pls see above, and consider expanding your def of "gods" maybe
Leelu comments on Dec 30, 2020:
No verifiable evidence for gods. When there's evidence, I'll reconsider.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
pls see above, and consider expanding your def of "gods" maybe
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
The-Krzyz comments on Dec 30, 2020:
We now have better ideas about how the universe works. The idea of gods make no sense.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
yet ppl worship money, etc eh
The-Krzyz comments on Dec 30, 2020:
We now have better ideas about how the universe works. The idea of gods make no sense.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
yet ppl worship money, etc eh
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
OldWiseAss comments on Dec 30, 2020:
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer gods than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” – Stephen F Roberts
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
yet ppl obviously worship many things, right? Money, etc
OldWiseAss comments on Dec 30, 2020:
“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer gods than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” – Stephen F Roberts
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
yet ppl obviously worship many things, right? Money, etc
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
ToakReon comments on Dec 31, 2020:
Because I think.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@anglophone narf
ToakReon comments on Dec 31, 2020:
Because I think.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@anglophone narf
Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline | Live Science
Marionville comments on Jan 5, 2021:
I don’t consider “Social Science” to really be a science in any real sense of the meaning of the word. Let’s just settle on calling it a discipline. If we exclude social scientists from the study then we’d have a negligible number who believe in god I’m pretty sure, but as it stands ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
as gnostic as it gets i guess :)
Marionville comments on Jan 5, 2021:
I don’t consider “Social Science” to really be a science in any real sense of the meaning of the word. Let’s just settle on calling it a discipline. If we exclude social scientists from the study then we’d have a negligible number who believe in god I’m pretty sure, but as it stands ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
as gnostic as it gets i guess :)
Christopher Hitchens Destroys the Logic of the Bible : atheism
jlynn37 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
I for one do not need anyone else to explain to me the "logic of the Bible".
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages "Christopher Hitchens DESTROYS the Bible with FACTS and LOGIC."
so, more properly said, he does not even *approach* the Bible, except from the believer's ("deceived") perspective; the literal one
jlynn37 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
I for one do not need anyone else to explain to me the "logic of the Bible".
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages "Christopher Hitchens DESTROYS the Bible with FACTS and LOGIC."
so, more properly said, he does not even *approach* the Bible, except from the believer's ("deceived") perspective; the literal one
Christopher Hitchens Destroys the Logic of the Bible : atheism
Marionville comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Logic and Bible in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages or--since obviously ppl worship many diff things, money, etc--how might you develop a syntax to describe them, that will work across centuries?
Marionville comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Logic and Bible in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages or--since obviously ppl worship many diff things, money, etc--how might you develop a syntax to describe them, that will work across centuries?
I feel like god is just Santa Claus for adults : atheism
barjoe comments on Jan 2, 2021:
Exactly. Santa Claus, Tooth fairy, little green men. The devil is the boogieman. There exists goodness and evil, but those are the choices we make. I choose and try to be a good man because it's righteous. I don't fear a vindictive deity who demands us mere mortals to be believers or else be ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@barjoe "I don't fear a vindictive deity who demands us mere mortals to be believers or else be sentenced to eternal damnation. How fucked up is that?"
well fwiw the only personal judgement in the Bible is for works, not beliefs; and it is invariably those deemed pagans or atheists that are the more praised for their works in the Bible, the Good Samaritan (atheist, *go and do likewise*), the Roman Centurion (pagan, *I have not seen such faith in anyone of Israel*), etc
eternal from aion, "a space of time, an age" so believers also get that part wrong i guess
barjoe comments on Jan 2, 2021:
Exactly. Santa Claus, Tooth fairy, little green men. The devil is the boogieman. There exists goodness and evil, but those are the choices we make. I choose and try to be a good man because it's righteous. I don't fear a vindictive deity who demands us mere mortals to be believers or else be ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@barjoe "I don't fear a vindictive deity who demands us mere mortals to be believers or else be sentenced to eternal damnation. How fucked up is that?"
well fwiw the only personal judgement in the Bible is for works, not beliefs; and it is invariably those deemed pagans or atheists that are the more praised for their works in the Bible, the Good Samaritan (atheist, *go and do likewise*), the Roman Centurion (pagan, *I have not seen such faith in anyone of Israel*), etc
eternal from aion, "a space of time, an age" so believers also get that part wrong i guess
I feel like god is just Santa Claus for adults : atheism
barjoe comments on Jan 2, 2021:
Exactly. Santa Claus, Tooth fairy, little green men. The devil is the boogieman. There exists goodness and evil, but those are the choices we make. I choose and try to be a good man because it's righteous. I don't fear a vindictive deity who demands us mere mortals to be believers or else be ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@girlwithsmiles hmm, what do you mean by "theology?" ty
barjoe comments on Jan 2, 2021:
Exactly. Santa Claus, Tooth fairy, little green men. The devil is the boogieman. There exists goodness and evil, but those are the choices we make. I choose and try to be a good man because it's righteous. I don't fear a vindictive deity who demands us mere mortals to be believers or else be ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@girlwithsmiles hmm, what do you mean by "theology?" ty
Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline | Live Science
Gareth comments on Jan 4, 2021:
"Social science" is not really science; it's a fancy name for sociology.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@yvilletom hmm, they dont form testable theories too? dunno
Gareth comments on Jan 4, 2021:
"Social science" is not really science; it's a fancy name for sociology.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@yvilletom hmm, they dont form testable theories too? dunno
Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline | Live Science
PBuck0145 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Social "sciences" are less rigid and less falsifiable than are natural sciences. The results of the study are what I would expect.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
even the parts @ "the opposite had been expected?"
PBuck0145 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Social "sciences" are less rigid and less falsifiable than are natural sciences. The results of the study are what I would expect.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
even the parts @ "the opposite had been expected?"
Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline | Live Science
DenoPenno comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Scientists do not believe in gods. Some people who claim to be scientists might believe in gods.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
well or God, as opposed to "gods" anyway. Also--not that i personally object if someone assumes to be gnostic--you are making statements of absolute truth that are easily refuted imo, was Einstein a scientist or no?
DenoPenno comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Scientists do not believe in gods. Some people who claim to be scientists might believe in gods.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
well or God, as opposed to "gods" anyway. Also--not that i personally object if someone assumes to be gnostic--you are making statements of absolute truth that are easily refuted imo, was Einstein a scientist or no?
Christopher Hitchens Destroys the Logic of the Bible : atheism
Marionville comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Logic and Bible in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages so, now that we've got that out of the way, maybe we can start to examine what it is really saying? Einstein himself noted that logic will only get you so far eh
Marionville comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Logic and Bible in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages so, now that we've got that out of the way, maybe we can start to examine what it is really saying? Einstein himself noted that logic will only get you so far eh
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
Krish55 comments on Dec 30, 2020:
I answer, what is God? Turn the tables and make them explain. And then challenge the various explanations that come up. I'm noncommittal about my own lack of belief.Put them on the defensive instead.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
so a nicer way to put that might be "whatever force caused the big bang" or some other phenomena we cant explain
Krish55 comments on Dec 30, 2020:
I answer, what is God? Turn the tables and make them explain. And then challenge the various explanations that come up. I'm noncommittal about my own lack of belief.Put them on the defensive instead.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
so a nicer way to put that might be "whatever force caused the big bang" or some other phenomena we cant explain
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
leroysamuse comments on Dec 31, 2020:
As Matt Dellahunty would say, I apportion my belief according to the evidence.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
*test everything, and keep what is good*
leroysamuse comments on Dec 31, 2020:
As Matt Dellahunty would say, I apportion my belief according to the evidence.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
*test everything, and keep what is good*
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
Storm1752 comments on Dec 31, 2020:
I neither believe nor disbelieve. I'm an agnostic; I don't know.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Storm1752 i would say someone who believes that God does not exist, and "knows" stuff? Good from evil, whatever? Speaks in absolute statements, never asks questions, etc
Storm1752 comments on Dec 31, 2020:
I neither believe nor disbelieve. I'm an agnostic; I don't know.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Storm1752 i would say someone who believes that God does not exist, and "knows" stuff? Good from evil, whatever? Speaks in absolute statements, never asks questions, etc
Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline | Live Science
David1955 comments on Jan 5, 2021:
The problem here is what did they define as God? We don't know, so it's not very helpful. Did they mean an Abrahamic god? A personal or non personal god? A big bag of energy in the universe that they call a god? I know some scientists are inclined to believe in a non personal creator force they ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
word
David1955 comments on Jan 5, 2021:
The problem here is what did they define as God? We don't know, so it's not very helpful. Did they mean an Abrahamic god? A personal or non personal god? A big bag of energy in the universe that they call a god? I know some scientists are inclined to believe in a non personal creator force they ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
word
Scientists' Belief in God Varies Starkly by Discipline | Live Science
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Why post this journalist's 2005 misrepresentations that more than a small proportion of scientists believe in supernatural beings?
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
mostly bc i was kinda surprised myself :)
waitingforgodo comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Why post this journalist's 2005 misrepresentations that more than a small proportion of scientists believe in supernatural beings?
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
mostly bc i was kinda surprised myself :)
Christopher Hitchens Destroys the Logic of the Bible : atheism
jlynn37 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
I for one do not need anyone else to explain to me the "logic of the Bible".
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages well wadr it makes a pretty handy *concept* that imo cannot as easily be explained away, even if im not buying the ancient white guy with a beard either
jlynn37 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
I for one do not need anyone else to explain to me the "logic of the Bible".
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages well wadr it makes a pretty handy *concept* that imo cannot as easily be explained away, even if im not buying the ancient white guy with a beard either
Christopher Hitchens Destroys the Logic of the Bible : atheism
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
pls lol, i would shred this, but your mind is made up anyway i guess right
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Mvtt i dont bc he is not attacking the Bible anyway, but believers. So i mostly agree, from that perspective at least; Hitch is just agreeing with the Bible anyway
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
pls lol, i would shred this, but your mind is made up anyway i guess right
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Mvtt i dont bc he is not attacking the Bible anyway, but believers. So i mostly agree, from that perspective at least; Hitch is just agreeing with the Bible anyway
Christopher Hitchens Destroys the Logic of the Bible : atheism
Marionville comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Logic and Bible in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages, @Marionville no mass slaughters, no walls of jericho, etc, as any contemporary reader would have understood immediately
Marionville comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Logic and Bible in the same sentence is an oxymoron.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 5, 2021:
@Hages, @Marionville no mass slaughters, no walls of jericho, etc, as any contemporary reader would have understood immediately
What do you expect to be achieved by this week's pro-Trump DC rally?
sassygirl3869 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Think Trump's right fringe supporters will get violent. Trump will try to enact Martial Law with disgraced General Flynn by his side. Hope they both get locked up before a riot takes place!!!!!
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@JeffMurray ha the federal reserve apparently gets away with it every day?
sassygirl3869 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
Think Trump's right fringe supporters will get violent. Trump will try to enact Martial Law with disgraced General Flynn by his side. Hope they both get locked up before a riot takes place!!!!!
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@JeffMurray ha the federal reserve apparently gets away with it every day?
The older I get I learn that my opinion appears to only cause division and strife.
Somnium comments on Dec 29, 2020:
I really appreciate all of the responses to my post. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond and give relevant and constructive advice.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@ChimRichalds i'd agree as far as that goes, but the emotions could be used as a guide to indicate future steps maybe...i suspect lack of endorphins, prolly also lack of novel stimuli, etc, pretty common at our age
Somnium comments on Dec 29, 2020:
I really appreciate all of the responses to my post. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond and give relevant and constructive advice.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@ChimRichalds i'd agree as far as that goes, but the emotions could be used as a guide to indicate future steps maybe...i suspect lack of endorphins, prolly also lack of novel stimuli, etc, pretty common at our age
I'm sick of hearing christians tell me they "love me" : atheism
barjoe comments on Jan 4, 2021:
If you love me STFU and leave me alone.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
codependence is a funny thing lol
barjoe comments on Jan 4, 2021:
If you love me STFU and leave me alone.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
codependence is a funny thing lol
Christopher Hitchens Destroys the Logic of the Bible : atheism
jlynn37 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
I for one do not need anyone else to explain to me the "logic of the Bible".
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@Hages CH was wise in his own eyes too, and thus would not have been qualified to open a Bible wadr. You do realize that being mad at Yah does not an atheist make eh
jlynn37 comments on Jan 4, 2021:
I for one do not need anyone else to explain to me the "logic of the Bible".
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@Hages CH was wise in his own eyes too, and thus would not have been qualified to open a Bible wadr. You do realize that being mad at Yah does not an atheist make eh
I apologize if this is a silly request, BUT .
hankster comments on Jan 2, 2021:
that 2nd one says my donkey is broken so I'll be riding a fish.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
narf
hankster comments on Jan 2, 2021:
that 2nd one says my donkey is broken so I'll be riding a fish.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
narf
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
Storm1752 comments on Dec 31, 2020:
I neither believe nor disbelieve. I'm an agnostic; I don't know.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@Storm1752 i meant this site; i was just recently going on about how it is chock full of atheist gnostics
Storm1752 comments on Dec 31, 2020:
I neither believe nor disbelieve. I'm an agnostic; I don't know.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@Storm1752 i meant this site; i was just recently going on about how it is chock full of atheist gnostics
Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus ever use facts, logic or rational argument to convince prospective ...
BufftonBeotch comments on Jan 1, 2021:
Most of it seems like eastern philosophy leaking in from trade routes.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@ASTRALMAX um, somewhat of a leap maybe, but Laotzu does go into how it is something that is more "circled around" than directly discussed, like a "burning bush" or even *what is it?* likely forward
BufftonBeotch comments on Jan 1, 2021:
Most of it seems like eastern philosophy leaking in from trade routes.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@ASTRALMAX um, somewhat of a leap maybe, but Laotzu does go into how it is something that is more "circled around" than directly discussed, like a "burning bush" or even *what is it?* likely forward
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 1, 2021:
"because you have defined Him"
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@ASTRALMAX ha im wondering if even "who" is not maybe too much definition, "Him" is usually recognized to be a convention among thinkers
bbyrd009 comments on Jan 1, 2021:
"because you have defined Him"
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@ASTRALMAX ha im wondering if even "who" is not maybe too much definition, "Him" is usually recognized to be a convention among thinkers
Lets end this unusual year with a great quote that summarizes 2020 and religion perfectly: “The ...
yvilletom comments on Jan 1, 2021:
A reddit comme nt said Russell got it from Years.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@AmyTheBruce https://youtu.be/1boAusqiBMs seems like i recal a Slouching Towards Bethlehem movie or something too?
yvilletom comments on Jan 1, 2021:
A reddit comme nt said Russell got it from Years.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 4, 2021:
@AmyTheBruce https://youtu.be/1boAusqiBMs seems like i recal a Slouching Towards Bethlehem movie or something too?
I'm looking for anyone over 18 who knows English
to fill-out a 20 question survey on Childhood ...
snytiger6 comments on Jan 1, 2021:
Done. Hope it helps.
Just for future reference, Mormom is a form of Christianity.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
hmm
snytiger6 comments on Jan 1, 2021:
Done. Hope it helps.
Just for future reference, Mormom is a form of Christianity.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
hmm
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
Krish55 comments on Dec 30, 2020:
I answer, what is God? Turn the tables and make them explain. And then challenge the various explanations that come up. I'm noncommittal about my own lack of belief.Put them on the defensive instead.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
welcome to *Unknown God* ladies
and if you think athesits dont have beliefs, you're kidding yourself wadr
Krish55 comments on Dec 30, 2020:
I answer, what is God? Turn the tables and make them explain. And then challenge the various explanations that come up. I'm noncommittal about my own lack of belief.Put them on the defensive instead.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
welcome to *Unknown God* ladies
and if you think athesits dont have beliefs, you're kidding yourself wadr
What do you say when someone asks “Why don’t you believe in god?” : atheism
Storm1752 comments on Dec 31, 2020:
I neither believe nor disbelieve. I'm an agnostic; I don't know.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
ya, that'll be pop here lol
ok, so i guess theres four agnostics here maybe, not three
Storm1752 comments on Dec 31, 2020:
I neither believe nor disbelieve. I'm an agnostic; I don't know.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
ya, that'll be pop here lol
ok, so i guess theres four agnostics here maybe, not three
Lets end this unusual year with a great quote that summarizes 2020 and religion perfectly: “The ...
yvilletom comments on Jan 1, 2021:
A reddit comme nt said Russell got it from Years.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
@AmyTheBruce got a link? ty :)
yvilletom comments on Jan 1, 2021:
A reddit comme nt said Russell got it from Years.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
@AmyTheBruce got a link? ty :)
Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus ever use facts, logic or rational argument to convince prospective ...
BufftonBeotch comments on Jan 1, 2021:
Most of it seems like eastern philosophy leaking in from trade routes.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
the ref to *the way* is a pretty clear ref to Dao, according to many...
BufftonBeotch comments on Jan 1, 2021:
Most of it seems like eastern philosophy leaking in from trade routes.
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
the ref to *the way* is a pretty clear ref to Dao, according to many...
Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus ever use facts, logic or rational argument to convince prospective ...
ASTRALMAX comments on Jan 1, 2021:
Bertrand Russell said: "There is not one word in the Bible in praise of intelligence." He also said that he could not find one instance of humor in the Bible. Enough said....
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
*test everything, and keep what is good
how is it you did not know I was not talking about bread?
we played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge for you, and you did not mourn*
ASTRALMAX comments on Jan 1, 2021:
Bertrand Russell said: "There is not one word in the Bible in praise of intelligence." He also said that he could not find one instance of humor in the Bible. Enough said....
bbyrd009 replies on Jan 1, 2021:
*test everything, and keep what is good
how is it you did not know I was not talking about bread?
we played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge for you, and you did not mourn*
Two NM Churches Face $10,000 Fines for Holding Large, Indoor, Maskless Services | Hemant Mehta | ...
Thirst2learn comments on Dec 29, 2020:
Grown, consenting adults dont need your ask permission from your highness.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 30, 2020:
hey, i went to willis high school, ha
Thirst2learn comments on Dec 29, 2020:
Grown, consenting adults dont need your ask permission from your highness.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 30, 2020:
hey, i went to willis high school, ha
Those who give up essential freedom for temporary safety deserve neither
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 27, 2020:
id like to hear more about these books, awesome :)
ha which by definition means they prolly won't be too popular i guess lol
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@Thirst2learn wouldnt those be "fascists?"
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 27, 2020:
id like to hear more about these books, awesome :)
ha which by definition means they prolly won't be too popular i guess lol
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@Thirst2learn wouldnt those be "fascists?"
Those who give up essential freedom for temporary safety deserve neither
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 27, 2020:
id like to hear more about these books, awesome :)
ha which by definition means they prolly won't be too popular i guess lol
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@Thirst2learn hmm, not sure what "communists" even means tbh, i might be one lol, dunno. apolitical though
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 27, 2020:
id like to hear more about these books, awesome :)
ha which by definition means they prolly won't be too popular i guess lol
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@Thirst2learn hmm, not sure what "communists" even means tbh, i might be one lol, dunno. apolitical though
So after being reminded of the meaning of life, the universe and everything I came across these, ...
Triphid comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Interesting that you posted this at this time, since I just finished watching a documentary about The Rules of Ma'at and the Ancient Egyptian Judgment of the Soul after death.
Ma'at was a Elemental, depicted by the "Feather of Truth" and known as being the Source of Universal Peace and Harmony.
...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe "then get called out by @bbyrd009 yesterday for saying it's exactly that, new crap" ha c'mon bro, i dint call you out lol, i said i didnt get it? And fwiw yes, i agree, virtually all lifted from other mythologies, or at least the best parts of them. As it even admits btw, *Apollos waters,* etc
Triphid comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Interesting that you posted this at this time, since I just finished watching a documentary about The Rules of Ma'at and the Ancient Egyptian Judgment of the Soul after death.
Ma'at was a Elemental, depicted by the "Feather of Truth" and known as being the Source of Universal Peace and Harmony.
...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe "then get called out by @bbyrd009 yesterday for saying it's exactly that, new crap" ha c'mon bro, i dint call you out lol, i said i didnt get it? And fwiw yes, i agree, virtually all lifted from other mythologies, or at least the best parts of them. As it even admits btw, *Apollos waters,* etc
So after being reminded of the meaning of life, the universe and everything I came across these, ...
Triphid comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Interesting that you posted this at this time, since I just finished watching a documentary about The Rules of Ma'at and the Ancient Egyptian Judgment of the Soul after death.
Ma'at was a Elemental, depicted by the "Feather of Truth" and known as being the Source of Universal Peace and Harmony.
...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@Triphid interesting! Christians mostly believe that they "have" a soul too, i guess. But that is not what the Bible says
Triphid comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Interesting that you posted this at this time, since I just finished watching a documentary about The Rules of Ma'at and the Ancient Egyptian Judgment of the Soul after death.
Ma'at was a Elemental, depicted by the "Feather of Truth" and known as being the Source of Universal Peace and Harmony.
...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@Triphid interesting! Christians mostly believe that they "have" a soul too, i guess. But that is not what the Bible says
So after being reminded of the meaning of life, the universe and everything I came across these, ...
Triphid comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Interesting that you posted this at this time, since I just finished watching a documentary about The Rules of Ma'at and the Ancient Egyptian Judgment of the Soul after death.
Ma'at was a Elemental, depicted by the "Feather of Truth" and known as being the Source of Universal Peace and Harmony.
...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe may i suggest that the Bible itself tells us that Christians are off, *the way is narrow, and few there are who find it* but there are millions or billions of "Christians," right
*The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing their way into it.* the point here being the "forcing" part. They only fool themselves, and look their "churches" are melting as we speak lol
Triphid comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Interesting that you posted this at this time, since I just finished watching a documentary about The Rules of Ma'at and the Ancient Egyptian Judgment of the Soul after death.
Ma'at was a Elemental, depicted by the "Feather of Truth" and known as being the Source of Universal Peace and Harmony.
...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe may i suggest that the Bible itself tells us that Christians are off, *the way is narrow, and few there are who find it* but there are millions or billions of "Christians," right
*The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing their way into it.* the point here being the "forcing" part. They only fool themselves, and look their "churches" are melting as we speak lol
So after being reminded of the meaning of life, the universe and everything I came across these, ...
Triphid comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Interesting that you posted this at this time, since I just finished watching a documentary about The Rules of Ma'at and the Ancient Egyptian Judgment of the Soul after death.
Ma'at was a Elemental, depicted by the "Feather of Truth" and known as being the Source of Universal Peace and Harmony.
...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe well, but the Bible plainly says *No one has ever gone up to heaven,* and "hell" as we understand it does not exist, not anywhere, in the Bible, *all go to the same place.* There is *Gehenna*, which our norse/angle scribes have *translated* as "hell," but then we are warned about scribes in there too. Gehenna is on earth! And *Tartarus* is not for ppl
so, i'm not disagreeing with you @ "believers," but may i suggest that they pretty much hate the Bible even more than you do lol
Triphid comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Interesting that you posted this at this time, since I just finished watching a documentary about The Rules of Ma'at and the Ancient Egyptian Judgment of the Soul after death.
Ma'at was a Elemental, depicted by the "Feather of Truth" and known as being the Source of Universal Peace and Harmony.
...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe well, but the Bible plainly says *No one has ever gone up to heaven,* and "hell" as we understand it does not exist, not anywhere, in the Bible, *all go to the same place.* There is *Gehenna*, which our norse/angle scribes have *translated* as "hell," but then we are warned about scribes in there too. Gehenna is on earth! And *Tartarus* is not for ppl
so, i'm not disagreeing with you @ "believers," but may i suggest that they pretty much hate the Bible even more than you do lol
Here's what I'd like to ask xtians sometimes, "Is your god doing a good job?
kiramea comments on Dec 26, 2020:
My sister's (apparently) favorite answer to my questions that question her faith is "I try not to think about that".
I honestly don't understand people who blindly believe in something.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
well they can call themselves "Christians" if they like, but that doesnt mean that they are accepted eh. Nothing against your sis ok, but "i try not to think about that" = "spiritually dead" in the Bible, *test everything...*
kiramea comments on Dec 26, 2020:
My sister's (apparently) favorite answer to my questions that question her faith is "I try not to think about that".
I honestly don't understand people who blindly believe in something.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
well they can call themselves "Christians" if they like, but that doesnt mean that they are accepted eh. Nothing against your sis ok, but "i try not to think about that" = "spiritually dead" in the Bible, *test everything...*
"God is MEAN! If you don't believe in him, he KILLS you!" - my son, age 6, less than three minutes ...
Joanne comments on Dec 24, 2020:
And, the worst part is, he didn't even reveal himself to the people he was killing, yet he still killed them because they didn't worship him. Any decent, fair, god would reveal itself equally to all people, not just a few people making up a little tribe who occupied a little speck of land in the ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@Joanne ok, how to show this without making it personal to you, and inadvertently offending...um, note that you say "it is silliness, that ppl take these writings literally" but then you go on to condemn Yah via a literal reading?
Who got "punished for not believing?" i tell you that no one did, ever, so maybe you could say who and we'll see. The Good Samaritan (atheist), the Roman Centurion (mithraist), and others, are generally the most praised, while the "believer's" whole theocracy (Israel) was wiped out, yes?
"horribly murder" literally maybe, yes, but we know that none of those OT slaughters actually took place, and we even know that the *authors *knew that we would be able to find that out, meaning that they were not trying to fool anyone reading with the right eyes; as a handy corollary, Jericho had no walls, and this would obviously be easy enough to verify
and "destroyed the earth?" ha well im on the earth right now, and it seems fine to me? (Fwiw im pretty sure it was the *world* that was destroyed, and that is a completely diff thing, a construct made by humans)
Joanne comments on Dec 24, 2020:
And, the worst part is, he didn't even reveal himself to the people he was killing, yet he still killed them because they didn't worship him. Any decent, fair, god would reveal itself equally to all people, not just a few people making up a little tribe who occupied a little speck of land in the ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@Joanne ok, how to show this without making it personal to you, and inadvertently offending...um, note that you say "it is silliness, that ppl take these writings literally" but then you go on to condemn Yah via a literal reading?
Who got "punished for not believing?" i tell you that no one did, ever, so maybe you could say who and we'll see. The Good Samaritan (atheist), the Roman Centurion (mithraist), and others, are generally the most praised, while the "believer's" whole theocracy (Israel) was wiped out, yes?
"horribly murder" literally maybe, yes, but we know that none of those OT slaughters actually took place, and we even know that the *authors *knew that we would be able to find that out, meaning that they were not trying to fool anyone reading with the right eyes; as a handy corollary, Jericho had no walls, and this would obviously be easy enough to verify
and "destroyed the earth?" ha well im on the earth right now, and it seems fine to me? (Fwiw im pretty sure it was the *world* that was destroyed, and that is a completely diff thing, a construct made by humans)
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TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe "Yes I (again) did not conform."
hey, im a non-conformist too lol, i totally get that; my point was that the Bible describes your non-conforming as "turn children against their parents" prolly. Which you dont have to agree with i guess, if you like :)
"the Bible got new crap" i'm not getting, sorry
TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe "Yes I (again) did not conform."
hey, im a non-conformist too lol, i totally get that; my point was that the Bible describes your non-conforming as "turn children against their parents" prolly. Which you dont have to agree with i guess, if you like :)
"the Bible got new crap" i'm not getting, sorry
Religion Explained........
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Hey, that actually looks really plausible! I subscribe to the not-too-different school of thought that says early humans' psychotic audio hallucinations were likely interpreted by them as personal gods speaking to them.
Earliest religions endorsed the existance of many gods. With the rise of ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@MikeInBatonRouge "Probably, but which part specifically?"
"because the voice in my head gave me personal revelation," and really even "i *know* God..." which i can Quote some vv for those if you like
"The Bible contradicts itself in many places, giving contradictory directives. It thereby gives cover for believers widely divergent interpretations."
i might ask for an example here, and we could see, or i could also provide some and agree with you, but id like to suggest a diff perspective, that being that the Bible gives them enough rope to hang themselves, if they are hypocrites, thereby revealing themselves to you!
But for starters anyone telling you that Jesus died for our sins does not yet understand, and has not read the Bible for themselves, where that cannot be Quoted; *No son of man may die for another's sins* see, plain as day
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Hey, that actually looks really plausible! I subscribe to the not-too-different school of thought that says early humans' psychotic audio hallucinations were likely interpreted by them as personal gods speaking to them.
Earliest religions endorsed the existance of many gods. With the rise of ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 27, 2020:
@MikeInBatonRouge "Probably, but which part specifically?"
"because the voice in my head gave me personal revelation," and really even "i *know* God..." which i can Quote some vv for those if you like
"The Bible contradicts itself in many places, giving contradictory directives. It thereby gives cover for believers widely divergent interpretations."
i might ask for an example here, and we could see, or i could also provide some and agree with you, but id like to suggest a diff perspective, that being that the Bible gives them enough rope to hang themselves, if they are hypocrites, thereby revealing themselves to you!
But for starters anyone telling you that Jesus died for our sins does not yet understand, and has not read the Bible for themselves, where that cannot be Quoted; *No son of man may die for another's sins* see, plain as day
Religion Explained........
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Hey, that actually looks really plausible! I subscribe to the not-too-different school of thought that says early humans' psychotic audio hallucinations were likely interpreted by them as personal gods speaking to them.
Earliest religions endorsed the existance of many gods. With the rise of ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
you know that last bit is specifically condemned by the Bible eh
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Hey, that actually looks really plausible! I subscribe to the not-too-different school of thought that says early humans' psychotic audio hallucinations were likely interpreted by them as personal gods speaking to them.
Earliest religions endorsed the existance of many gods. With the rise of ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
you know that last bit is specifically condemned by the Bible eh
Religion Explained........
Word comments on Dec 26, 2020:
What religion is that about? I am not familiar with rock worshippers.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
i guess it was bronze, and those who knew the secret of how to make it were called "priests"? "Bronze Age Collapse" can tell you more. The comic is cute, but a fail imo
Word comments on Dec 26, 2020:
What religion is that about? I am not familiar with rock worshippers.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
i guess it was bronze, and those who knew the secret of how to make it were called "priests"? "Bronze Age Collapse" can tell you more. The comic is cute, but a fail imo
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TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe "I wouldn't say I turned against them."
"things were not that pleasant because I disobeyed or turned my back on religion. I was called stubborn, naughty, cheeky etc. I was just my own person and they were challenged by that."
so either semantics or the diff in male and female logic, dunno.
but you might note how many "I"s in there :)
oh, timeoutforme duh
TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe "I wouldn't say I turned against them."
"things were not that pleasant because I disobeyed or turned my back on religion. I was called stubborn, naughty, cheeky etc. I was just my own person and they were challenged by that."
so either semantics or the diff in male and female logic, dunno.
but you might note how many "I"s in there :)
oh, timeoutforme duh
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TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe "I visited Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Pentecostal etc I was inquisitive and curious. All a bloody hoax. ...the house that Jack built if you know what I mean. No substance, no truth."
so essentially ezackly what the Bible says, if you can believe that
TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe "I visited Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, Pentecostal etc I was inquisitive and curious. All a bloody hoax. ...the house that Jack built if you know what I mean. No substance, no truth."
so essentially ezackly what the Bible says, if you can believe that
Here's what I'd like to ask xtians sometimes, "Is your god doing a good job?
xenoview comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Christians follow blindly because they want to make it to the afterlife.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
ha that the Bible very plainly states, several diff ways, does not really exist,
*No one has ever gone up to heaven...* etc
xenoview comments on Dec 26, 2020:
Christians follow blindly because they want to make it to the afterlife.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
ha that the Bible very plainly states, several diff ways, does not really exist,
*No one has ever gone up to heaven...* etc
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TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe ah well for that i would give them credit, but that is kind of beside the greater point imo? In the matter of religion, you are "turned against" them, right
so iow no offense meant ok, but is it about you, or understanding a passage?
TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@TimeOutForMe ah well for that i would give them credit, but that is kind of beside the greater point imo? In the matter of religion, you are "turned against" them, right
so iow no offense meant ok, but is it about you, or understanding a passage?
You celebrate a day that everyone decided that a baby was born.
Thirst2learn comments on Dec 23, 2020:
Jesus was born on the shortest day of the year, the darkest of the nights, to bring light to sinners, condemned for breaking laws. Those who choose this path take a route of poverty and forgiveness and suffer immensely on earth for an imaginary gift in heaven after they die.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
*No one has ever gone up to heaven...*
?
Thirst2learn comments on Dec 23, 2020:
Jesus was born on the shortest day of the year, the darkest of the nights, to bring light to sinners, condemned for breaking laws. Those who choose this path take a route of poverty and forgiveness and suffer immensely on earth for an imaginary gift in heaven after they die.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
*No one has ever gone up to heaven...*
?
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Cast1es comments on Dec 25, 2020:
Just out of curiosity , if you're already decided it's not believable , why do you continue to spend so much of your time and energy discussing non existent religion ? When I joined Agnostic.com , I thought it meant religion would not be the central focus of the majority of discussions here .
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@think-beyond dang, well said
i would except the "garbage" part, and say that the truth of that passage isnt really very hard to discern, but you make some good points imo
Cast1es comments on Dec 25, 2020:
Just out of curiosity , if you're already decided it's not believable , why do you continue to spend so much of your time and energy discussing non existent religion ? When I joined Agnostic.com , I thought it meant religion would not be the central focus of the majority of discussions here .
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@think-beyond dang, well said
i would except the "garbage" part, and say that the truth of that passage isnt really very hard to discern, but you make some good points imo
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Cast1es comments on Dec 25, 2020:
Just out of curiosity , if you're already decided it's not believable , why do you continue to spend so much of your time and energy discussing non existent religion ? When I joined Agnostic.com , I thought it meant religion would not be the central focus of the majority of discussions here .
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
whats the quote, something about "small ppl discuss _____, avg ppl discuss __________, and big ppl discuss concepts" guess i better look it up lol
Cast1es comments on Dec 25, 2020:
Just out of curiosity , if you're already decided it's not believable , why do you continue to spend so much of your time and energy discussing non existent religion ? When I joined Agnostic.com , I thought it meant religion would not be the central focus of the majority of discussions here .
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
whats the quote, something about "small ppl discuss _____, avg ppl discuss __________, and big ppl discuss concepts" guess i better look it up lol
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Cast1es comments on Dec 25, 2020:
Just out of curiosity , if you're already decided it's not believable , why do you continue to spend so much of your time and energy discussing non existent religion ? When I joined Agnostic.com , I thought it meant religion would not be the central focus of the majority of discussions here .
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
omg, an actual agnostic. Hi :)
and yeh, why they dont just call this site "atheist gnostics" and be done with it idk!
Cast1es comments on Dec 25, 2020:
Just out of curiosity , if you're already decided it's not believable , why do you continue to spend so much of your time and energy discussing non existent religion ? When I joined Agnostic.com , I thought it meant religion would not be the central focus of the majority of discussions here .
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
omg, an actual agnostic. Hi :)
and yeh, why they dont just call this site "atheist gnostics" and be done with it idk!
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creative51 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
Quite the statement. The bible is full of contradictions.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
hmm, can you Quote the contradictory statements to those? Not that im disagreeing with your premise, i just cant think of any contras to those. But i would suggest that the apparent contradictions that do exist are installed intentionally, almost surely
creative51 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
Quite the statement. The bible is full of contradictions.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
hmm, can you Quote the contradictory statements to those? Not that im disagreeing with your premise, i just cant think of any contras to those. But i would suggest that the apparent contradictions that do exist are installed intentionally, almost surely
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TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
ha would your parents agree with you? Then i guess you are turned against them, huh
TimeOutForMe comments on Dec 25, 2020:
...such crap doctrine honestly 🙄
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
ha would your parents agree with you? Then i guess you are turned against them, huh
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UrsiMajor comments on Dec 25, 2020:
For real? I can't take it. Reading is supposed to increase your IQ not destroy it.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
dont worry, you havent read it yet :)
UrsiMajor comments on Dec 25, 2020:
For real? I can't take it. Reading is supposed to increase your IQ not destroy it.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
dont worry, you havent read it yet :)
Logical people are asking but the Babble believers don't want to answer....
creative51 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
You can not convince me that there ever was a real jesus.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@creative51 i said that mostly to intro a possible other perspective, really, as imo we mostly fool ourselves; personally idk. You say "religious" but i suggest that that is not what's going on, as it is the religious who are the most vilified in the Bible, and the theocracy is what imploded?
imo viruses are good things, and remove the weak from the gene pool, but i guess that isnt too popular lol; i read that...um, Vietnam, i think it is? has zero covid deaths so far, due to their protocols? Dunno though, sounds a little far-fetched.
as to the rest i suggest that chaos is what the ptb are after--more opps for profit--and that that stuff wont get fixed until we fix the money. Not Federal, No Reserves :)
i guess ol' Woodie (Wilson) even basically admitted to fucking the country over lol
anyway "Jesus of Nazareth" likely amounts to "John Doe, from Nowhere" in rabbi-speak, and i dont think they meant to write a literal history, they way most ppl read it
creative51 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
You can not convince me that there ever was a real jesus.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@creative51 i said that mostly to intro a possible other perspective, really, as imo we mostly fool ourselves; personally idk. You say "religious" but i suggest that that is not what's going on, as it is the religious who are the most vilified in the Bible, and the theocracy is what imploded?
imo viruses are good things, and remove the weak from the gene pool, but i guess that isnt too popular lol; i read that...um, Vietnam, i think it is? has zero covid deaths so far, due to their protocols? Dunno though, sounds a little far-fetched.
as to the rest i suggest that chaos is what the ptb are after--more opps for profit--and that that stuff wont get fixed until we fix the money. Not Federal, No Reserves :)
i guess ol' Woodie (Wilson) even basically admitted to fucking the country over lol
anyway "Jesus of Nazareth" likely amounts to "John Doe, from Nowhere" in rabbi-speak, and i dont think they meant to write a literal history, they way most ppl read it
"God is MEAN! If you don't believe in him, he KILLS you!" - my son, age 6, less than three minutes ...
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 24, 2020:
are you just going to consistently pay attention to the most warped part of the web, i wonder? The father has his head up his ass, so natch the son will misunderstand, just like you are, ok. There was surely no actual Noah, but there was for sure a flood. Now i know you run screaming from anything ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@Gwendolyn2018 i tend to rely on less mainstream etymologies, wouldnt go near a Strong's now, etc, but those got a lot of it right i guess. The literal part anyway?
https://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Noah.html#.X-dop9FlChA
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 24, 2020:
are you just going to consistently pay attention to the most warped part of the web, i wonder? The father has his head up his ass, so natch the son will misunderstand, just like you are, ok. There was surely no actual Noah, but there was for sure a flood. Now i know you run screaming from anything ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@Gwendolyn2018 i tend to rely on less mainstream etymologies, wouldnt go near a Strong's now, etc, but those got a lot of it right i guess. The literal part anyway?
https://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Noah.html#.X-dop9FlChA
Logical people are asking but the Babble believers don't want to answer....
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
"true" lol. Does anyone here even know what "gnostic" means?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@BTHT "Everyone, deep in their hearts, is waiting for the end of the world to come." HMurakami
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
"true" lol. Does anyone here even know what "gnostic" means?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@BTHT "Everyone, deep in their hearts, is waiting for the end of the world to come." HMurakami
Logical people are asking but the Babble believers don't want to answer....
creative51 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
You can not convince me that there ever was a real jesus.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@creative51 hmm, sell it to whom, do you think? They were a vassal nation of troublemakers to Rome, about to all get crucified or relocated--so like Native Americans or something similar, if you're a Murrican. So no offense, my gnostic friend, but im skeptible :)
creative51 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
You can not convince me that there ever was a real jesus.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@creative51 hmm, sell it to whom, do you think? They were a vassal nation of troublemakers to Rome, about to all get crucified or relocated--so like Native Americans or something similar, if you're a Murrican. So no offense, my gnostic friend, but im skeptible :)
Logical people are asking but the Babble believers don't want to answer....
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
"true" lol. Does anyone here even know what "gnostic" means?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@St-Sinner alive and kicking today, trust me lol
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
"true" lol. Does anyone here even know what "gnostic" means?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@St-Sinner alive and kicking today, trust me lol
"God is MEAN! If you don't believe in him, he KILLS you!" - my son, age 6, less than three minutes ...
jlynn37 comments on Dec 24, 2020:
And if it doesn't kill you, it can certainly fuck you up.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
strikes me as a pretty fair description of *ignorance* eh
jlynn37 comments on Dec 24, 2020:
And if it doesn't kill you, it can certainly fuck you up.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
strikes me as a pretty fair description of *ignorance* eh
"God is MEAN! If you don't believe in him, he KILLS you!" - my son, age 6, less than three minutes ...
Joanne comments on Dec 24, 2020:
And, the worst part is, he didn't even reveal himself to the people he was killing, yet he still killed them because they didn't worship him. Any decent, fair, god would reveal itself equally to all people, not just a few people making up a little tribe who occupied a little speck of land in the ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@Joanne and wadr that is how wisdom is hidden from the wise, i guess
see bc "he"--the God that you dont believe in--cannot possibly have killed anyone, right? And they were not killed for not worshipping Him, they were killed bc they wouldnt get in the fucking boat! and, and, and, on and on, see, what most likely really happened was a bunch of ppl *did* perish in a great flood, and the occasion was incorporated into various cultures' mythologies, but you are just mad at Yah maybe?
I mean wouldnt an equally fair perspective have it that Noach spent "120 years" warning ppl that "a flood" was coming, whether they believed in Yah or not? And the significance of "120" and "flood" we could get into later, or not, but those are very basic analogies
Why do you credit a God you dont believe in with "punishing" Adam and Eve, who btw were plainly warned not to "eat the fruit" of "the tree of knowledge" do you need me to Quote it for you? And how exactly, may i ask, were they "punished?"
i mean do you really believe there was an actual tree? or for that matter an actual Old White Guy in a Long White Robe? that youre pissed at, i guess? And wadr even the "forbidden" part is crap, as they were not, ever, "forbidden" from eating anything--"eat anything you want, but if you eat from this tree, you will fucking die" is not "forbidding" shit, see, its *warning*, isnt it?
could i suggest that these might be analogies anyway, and that reading them literally is pointless, or worse? I mean you are certainly allowed to read like a chump if you want, like a "believer," but after all arent those the ppl you detest?
so anyway i hope you dont take this wrong ok, and i for sure dont know, but i suspect its all a matter of perspective, and i know for a truth that the Bible is fab at...misdirecting attention, would i guess be the way to put it
so, the God Who told Noach "tell everyone a flood is coming, and build a big boat so anyone who wants to can be saved" is an asshole then, fine. I mean, no offense, but are you listening to yourself?
Joanne comments on Dec 24, 2020:
And, the worst part is, he didn't even reveal himself to the people he was killing, yet he still killed them because they didn't worship him. Any decent, fair, god would reveal itself equally to all people, not just a few people making up a little tribe who occupied a little speck of land in the ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@Joanne and wadr that is how wisdom is hidden from the wise, i guess
see bc "he"--the God that you dont believe in--cannot possibly have killed anyone, right? And they were not killed for not worshipping Him, they were killed bc they wouldnt get in the fucking boat! and, and, and, on and on, see, what most likely really happened was a bunch of ppl *did* perish in a great flood, and the occasion was incorporated into various cultures' mythologies, but you are just mad at Yah maybe?
I mean wouldnt an equally fair perspective have it that Noach spent "120 years" warning ppl that "a flood" was coming, whether they believed in Yah or not? And the significance of "120" and "flood" we could get into later, or not, but those are very basic analogies
Why do you credit a God you dont believe in with "punishing" Adam and Eve, who btw were plainly warned not to "eat the fruit" of "the tree of knowledge" do you need me to Quote it for you? And how exactly, may i ask, were they "punished?"
i mean do you really believe there was an actual tree? or for that matter an actual Old White Guy in a Long White Robe? that youre pissed at, i guess? And wadr even the "forbidden" part is crap, as they were not, ever, "forbidden" from eating anything--"eat anything you want, but if you eat from this tree, you will fucking die" is not "forbidding" shit, see, its *warning*, isnt it?
could i suggest that these might be analogies anyway, and that reading them literally is pointless, or worse? I mean you are certainly allowed to read like a chump if you want, like a "believer," but after all arent those the ppl you detest?
so anyway i hope you dont take this wrong ok, and i for sure dont know, but i suspect its all a matter of perspective, and i know for a truth that the Bible is fab at...misdirecting attention, would i guess be the way to put it
so, the God Who told Noach "tell everyone a flood is coming, and build a big boat so anyone who wants to can be saved" is an asshole then, fine. I mean, no offense, but are you listening to yourself?
"God is MEAN! If you don't believe in him, he KILLS you!" - my son, age 6, less than three minutes ...
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 24, 2020:
are you just going to consistently pay attention to the most warped part of the web, i wonder? The father has his head up his ass, so natch the son will misunderstand, just like you are, ok. There was surely no actual Noah, but there was for sure a flood. Now i know you run screaming from anything ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@Gwendolyn2018 so then the Gilgamesh flood would be *the* flood, wouldnt it
and my point is that the legend of Noach is not a story for six year olds
btw, Noah is a girl's name
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 24, 2020:
are you just going to consistently pay attention to the most warped part of the web, i wonder? The father has his head up his ass, so natch the son will misunderstand, just like you are, ok. There was surely no actual Noah, but there was for sure a flood. Now i know you run screaming from anything ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 26, 2020:
@Gwendolyn2018 so then the Gilgamesh flood would be *the* flood, wouldnt it
and my point is that the legend of Noach is not a story for six year olds
btw, Noah is a girl's name
To all my fellow athiest friends.
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 24, 2020:
man, and i thought believers were effed up lol
"I claim to be atheist, but since i'm really just mad at God anyway, 'agnostic' sounds close enough to me"
arg
aren't there any mods here?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 25, 2020:
@DangerDave "all the people I've met on this site like that are ironically gnostic atheists" was who i was kinda summarizing with the quote, yeh. i mean there are about 3 actual agnostics here, but the other two hardly ever post lol. Gee, i wonder what *fruit of the tree of knowledge* means?
bbyrd009 comments on Dec 24, 2020:
man, and i thought believers were effed up lol
"I claim to be atheist, but since i'm really just mad at God anyway, 'agnostic' sounds close enough to me"
arg
aren't there any mods here?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 25, 2020:
@DangerDave "all the people I've met on this site like that are ironically gnostic atheists" was who i was kinda summarizing with the quote, yeh. i mean there are about 3 actual agnostics here, but the other two hardly ever post lol. Gee, i wonder what *fruit of the tree of knowledge* means?
Logical people are asking but the Babble believers don't want to answer....
creative51 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
You can not convince me that there ever was a real jesus.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 25, 2020:
i happen to agree, but then the q becomes "why would a bunch of rabbis make Him up?"
creative51 comments on Dec 25, 2020:
You can not convince me that there ever was a real jesus.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 25, 2020:
i happen to agree, but then the q becomes "why would a bunch of rabbis make Him up?"
Logical people are asking but the Babble believers don't want to answer....
VeronicaAnn comments on Dec 25, 2020:
I don’t get this... Why is there a debate on what Jesus looked like? How does ANYONE really truly know?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 25, 2020:
"knowing" is "gnossis," huh. Be nice to have a real discussion on what *tree of knowledge* means...someday, i guess
VeronicaAnn comments on Dec 25, 2020:
I don’t get this... Why is there a debate on what Jesus looked like? How does ANYONE really truly know?
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 25, 2020:
"knowing" is "gnossis," huh. Be nice to have a real discussion on what *tree of knowledge* means...someday, i guess
Logical people are asking but the Babble believers don't want to answer....
aplaceintime comments on Dec 25, 2020:
given there was never any such person he can look like whatever your imagination can dream up.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 25, 2020:
@St-Sinner fwiw "Jesus of Nazareth" is likely a handy rabbi-way of saying "John Doe, from Nowhere"
aplaceintime comments on Dec 25, 2020:
given there was never any such person he can look like whatever your imagination can dream up.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 25, 2020:
@St-Sinner fwiw "Jesus of Nazareth" is likely a handy rabbi-way of saying "John Doe, from Nowhere"
I’m an atheist who finds the study of religion fascinating.
xenoview comments on Dec 24, 2020:
Nothing fascinating about religion. It's all made up stories to give the holyman power to control people.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 24, 2020:
swing/miss
xenoview comments on Dec 24, 2020:
Nothing fascinating about religion. It's all made up stories to give the holyman power to control people.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 24, 2020:
swing/miss
"God is MEAN! If you don't believe in him, he KILLS you!" - my son, age 6, less than three minutes ...
Joanne comments on Dec 24, 2020:
And, the worst part is, he didn't even reveal himself to the people he was killing, yet he still killed them because they didn't worship him. Any decent, fair, god would reveal itself equally to all people, not just a few people making up a little tribe who occupied a little speck of land in the ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 24, 2020:
flood mythology exists in virtually every culture on the planet, and no offense but you could not be more wrong
Joanne comments on Dec 24, 2020:
And, the worst part is, he didn't even reveal himself to the people he was killing, yet he still killed them because they didn't worship him. Any decent, fair, god would reveal itself equally to all people, not just a few people making up a little tribe who occupied a little speck of land in the ...
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 24, 2020:
flood mythology exists in virtually every culture on the planet, and no offense but you could not be more wrong
"All of this massive cosmological churning and destruction (which is paralleled, by the way, on our ...
starwatcher-al comments on Dec 16, 2020:
If he-she is in control, and I use control loosely, then he-she is a sadistic bastard.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 18, 2020:
@The-Krzyz well, i cant think of any reason why they should, if those dont speak to you, but i would say that there is a Legend in there that few are able to even read, that has nothing whatever to do with what we now call religion. Imo if you are sure that you get a Bible verse, you are almost surely wrong.
*small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it*
contrast with "When we all get to heaven"
my point being that believers are the absolute last people one should be going to for Bible wisdom, and there are even verses to that effect, *the heir is under servants while he is a child, and no better than a slave, even though he is the lord of it all* etc
starwatcher-al comments on Dec 16, 2020:
If he-she is in control, and I use control loosely, then he-she is a sadistic bastard.
bbyrd009 replies on Dec 18, 2020:
@The-Krzyz well, i cant think of any reason why they should, if those dont speak to you, but i would say that there is a Legend in there that few are able to even read, that has nothing whatever to do with what we now call religion. Imo if you are sure that you get a Bible verse, you are almost surely wrong.
*small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it*
contrast with "When we all get to heaven"
my point being that believers are the absolute last people one should be going to for Bible wisdom, and there are even verses to that effect, *the heir is under servants while he is a child, and no better than a slave, even though he is the lord of it all* etc
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