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Lately, I find my own behavior somewhat puzzling.
bbyrd009 comments on Oct 5, 2020:
"It wasn't directed at me, but it was a semi-public proclaimation .... I couldn't let it pass..."
why not, may i ask
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Normanbites well, i do get you though, it can be a real pain having religious relatives
bbyrd009 comments on Oct 5, 2020:
"It wasn't directed at me, but it was a semi-public proclaimation .... I couldn't let it pass..."
why not, may i ask
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Normanbites well, i do get you though, it can be a real pain having religious relatives
Every religious person is also an atheist...
Word comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Gods are people, people are gods. Gods meet the standards of being people because people are gods. Atheism illogical. It only takes one style of god to show athiesm illogical. I do not have to show pasta in the sky with meatballs meets any standard.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Word ah well i guess that is a Quote of Yah, saying that about us?
Word comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Gods are people, people are gods. Gods meet the standards of being people because people are gods. Atheism illogical. It only takes one style of god to show athiesm illogical. I do not have to show pasta in the sky with meatballs meets any standard.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Word ah well i guess that is a Quote of Yah, saying that about us?
Every religious person is also an atheist...
Word comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Gods are people, people are gods. Gods meet the standards of being people because people are gods. Atheism illogical. It only takes one style of god to show athiesm illogical. I do not have to show pasta in the sky with meatballs meets any standard.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
*I said "you are Elohim"*
Word comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Gods are people, people are gods. Gods meet the standards of being people because people are gods. Atheism illogical. It only takes one style of god to show athiesm illogical. I do not have to show pasta in the sky with meatballs meets any standard.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
*I said "you are Elohim"*
Every religious person is also an atheist...
Sticks48 comments on Oct 4, 2020:
There have been some 2000 or more Gods in human history. The believers of the Abrahamic God are atheists when it comes to all of the other Gods. We are just Atheists to one more God than they are. Heard that one from Ricky Gervais on the Colbert show. This meme and Ricky are both spot on.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
ok well fwiw the Bible makes the point that even an "atheist" (in the most obvious case, a "good samaritan") might be worthy of emulation and acceptance
Sticks48 comments on Oct 4, 2020:
There have been some 2000 or more Gods in human history. The believers of the Abrahamic God are atheists when it comes to all of the other Gods. We are just Atheists to one more God than they are. Heard that one from Ricky Gervais on the Colbert show. This meme and Ricky are both spot on.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
ok well fwiw the Bible makes the point that even an "atheist" (in the most obvious case, a "good samaritan") might be worthy of emulation and acceptance
Every religious person is also an atheist...
Matias comments on Oct 4, 2020:
I do not like the word "proof" in this context. There simply is no proof that God exists, or that he does NOT exist. This even applies to Zeus or Ganesha. I do not believe in these beings because there is zero *evidence* (the correct term) of their existence.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
ha well literal "existence," no, but what if they were never meant to be taken literally? When your neighbors are sacrificing their children to a "god," this is going to impact you whether you believe in that god or not, right?
Matias comments on Oct 4, 2020:
I do not like the word "proof" in this context. There simply is no proof that God exists, or that he does NOT exist. This even applies to Zeus or Ganesha. I do not believe in these beings because there is zero *evidence* (the correct term) of their existence.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
ha well literal "existence," no, but what if they were never meant to be taken literally? When your neighbors are sacrificing their children to a "god," this is going to impact you whether you believe in that god or not, right?
Every religious person is also an atheist...
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Argument framing is weird.
Theist try to make it God or no God, giving a perception that the odds would be 50/50.
But all things being equal the pro God 50% would have to be divided by the number of alternative religions making the odds dramatically lower even given this horrible false play on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
hmm i dunno, im comfortable with Yah being called "Allah" or "Shiva" or even--as generic as it is--"God"
guess that isnt standard though
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Argument framing is weird.
Theist try to make it God or no God, giving a perception that the odds would be 50/50.
But all things being equal the pro God 50% would have to be divided by the number of alternative religions making the odds dramatically lower even given this horrible false play on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
hmm i dunno, im comfortable with Yah being called "Allah" or "Shiva" or even--as generic as it is--"God"
guess that isnt standard though
Every religious person is also an atheist...
skado comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Oops!
1. There isn’t a god I don’t believe in.
2. Therefore my god is real.
(By this formula.)
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@OldMetalHead ha well you say that they conflict, but it has been noted by many scholars how similar they all are
skado comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Oops!
1. There isn’t a god I don’t believe in.
2. Therefore my god is real.
(By this formula.)
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@OldMetalHead ha well you say that they conflict, but it has been noted by many scholars how similar they all are
Sunday, October 04, 2020
in order to Truly - LOVE - Ones Self -
One must Truly - KNOW -...
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Ick. God isn't emotions.
First of all emotions are real.
Hormone rush during sex caused a lot of "ritual sex" magic, because we confuse goose bumps with a presence, we see faces in clouds, and we practice our arguments in our brain like a reality simulator.
This is why stupid people only act on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp ha ive just recently reflected on how rare that seems to be now, ppl seem so easily polarized now? Or was it always like that lol.
Ive noted some surprise that im not carrying a grudge from yesterday recently, it even kinda "moved the room" if you will...and i mean it was over nothing, relatively speaking. I could prolly put you more in the picture in about two paragraphs, but you'd be like "you gotta be kidding me" lol
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Ick. God isn't emotions.
First of all emotions are real.
Hormone rush during sex caused a lot of "ritual sex" magic, because we confuse goose bumps with a presence, we see faces in clouds, and we practice our arguments in our brain like a reality simulator.
This is why stupid people only act on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp ha ive just recently reflected on how rare that seems to be now, ppl seem so easily polarized now? Or was it always like that lol.
Ive noted some surprise that im not carrying a grudge from yesterday recently, it even kinda "moved the room" if you will...and i mean it was over nothing, relatively speaking. I could prolly put you more in the picture in about two paragraphs, but you'd be like "you gotta be kidding me" lol
Sunday, October 04, 2020
in order to Truly - LOVE - Ones Self -
One must Truly - KNOW -...
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Ick. God isn't emotions.
First of all emotions are real.
Hormone rush during sex caused a lot of "ritual sex" magic, because we confuse goose bumps with a presence, we see faces in clouds, and we practice our arguments in our brain like a reality simulator.
This is why stupid people only act on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp there's this weird thing known as "all three must agree," the three being (i think) "mind, heart, gut," which are of course analogies,, as they all come from our heads, right
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Ick. God isn't emotions.
First of all emotions are real.
Hormone rush during sex caused a lot of "ritual sex" magic, because we confuse goose bumps with a presence, we see faces in clouds, and we practice our arguments in our brain like a reality simulator.
This is why stupid people only act on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp there's this weird thing known as "all three must agree," the three being (i think) "mind, heart, gut," which are of course analogies,, as they all come from our heads, right
Sunday, October 04, 2020
in order to Truly - LOVE - Ones Self -
One must Truly - KNOW -...
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Ick. God isn't emotions.
First of all emotions are real.
Hormone rush during sex caused a lot of "ritual sex" magic, because we confuse goose bumps with a presence, we see faces in clouds, and we practice our arguments in our brain like a reality simulator.
This is why stupid people only act on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp ah ok...i guess ive just always heard it in a different context, a more humble declaration, say, like " i dunno, i just have a gut feeling." Anyone loudly endorsing anything, yeh, i would be suspicious i guess
actually anyone speaking in "facts" like the op here kinda loses me; Hegelian dialectic is just so..."winner/loser"
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Ick. God isn't emotions.
First of all emotions are real.
Hormone rush during sex caused a lot of "ritual sex" magic, because we confuse goose bumps with a presence, we see faces in clouds, and we practice our arguments in our brain like a reality simulator.
This is why stupid people only act on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp ah ok...i guess ive just always heard it in a different context, a more humble declaration, say, like " i dunno, i just have a gut feeling." Anyone loudly endorsing anything, yeh, i would be suspicious i guess
actually anyone speaking in "facts" like the op here kinda loses me; Hegelian dialectic is just so..."winner/loser"
Sunday, October 04, 2020
in order to Truly - LOVE - Ones Self -
One must Truly - KNOW -...
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Ick. God isn't emotions.
First of all emotions are real.
Hormone rush during sex caused a lot of "ritual sex" magic, because we confuse goose bumps with a presence, we see faces in clouds, and we practice our arguments in our brain like a reality simulator.
This is why stupid people only act on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
well imo you might agree that someone could say that as easily as someone else might say "following my heart" or whatever, "following my common sense" even, and all three might be trying to describe the same thing? Interesting tho, that you are suspicious of this gut thing, as that is usually an expression for intuition, isnt it? Iow usually seen as a "good" thing?
Willow_Wisp comments on Oct 4, 2020:
Ick. God isn't emotions.
First of all emotions are real.
Hormone rush during sex caused a lot of "ritual sex" magic, because we confuse goose bumps with a presence, we see faces in clouds, and we practice our arguments in our brain like a reality simulator.
This is why stupid people only act on ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
well imo you might agree that someone could say that as easily as someone else might say "following my heart" or whatever, "following my common sense" even, and all three might be trying to describe the same thing? Interesting tho, that you are suspicious of this gut thing, as that is usually an expression for intuition, isnt it? Iow usually seen as a "good" thing?
Sunday, October 04, 2020
in order to Truly - LOVE - Ones Self -
One must Truly - KNOW -...
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 4, 2020:
He's Bbbaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkkkkkk.....
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@KWAPELL7 hmm, why do you say "disparaging?"
AnneWimsey comments on Oct 4, 2020:
He's Bbbaaaaaaaaacccccccckkkkkkkkk.....
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 5, 2020:
@KWAPELL7 hmm, why do you say "disparaging?"
i FEEL like obligated to death by beoing part of relegion
bbyrd009 comments on Oct 3, 2020:
thats why they call it "the Cult of Sol Invictus"
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 3, 2020:
"going up to heaven after you die" is nowhere in the Bible
bbyrd009 comments on Oct 3, 2020:
thats why they call it "the Cult of Sol Invictus"
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 3, 2020:
"going up to heaven after you die" is nowhere in the Bible
Does being an agnostic mean that you’re on the wall or you lack acceptance?
ChestRockfield comments on Sep 8, 2020:
I agree with your sentiments. Ultimately, you will not reach a consensus of definitions of those words here. For me it seems simple. Agnosticism deals with with you can know. Atheism deals with what you believe. Since no one can know whether god exists, EVERYONE * should * be agnostic. Then if ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
@JeffMurray well i guess in the Bible "wind" is used for that, but we have figured out what the wind is made of now. So, i dunno, Skinwalker Ranch, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, off the top of my head
ChestRockfield comments on Sep 8, 2020:
I agree with your sentiments. Ultimately, you will not reach a consensus of definitions of those words here. For me it seems simple. Agnosticism deals with with you can know. Atheism deals with what you believe. Since no one can know whether god exists, EVERYONE * should * be agnostic. Then if ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
@JeffMurray well i guess in the Bible "wind" is used for that, but we have figured out what the wind is made of now. So, i dunno, Skinwalker Ranch, Dark Matter, Dark Energy, off the top of my head
I do not consider myself an Atheist, but an Agnostic.
AtheistInNC comments on Oct 1, 2020:
"Treat people as I would like to be treated" ... you might want to amend that slightly, or hope you don't ever meet someone into BDSM. XD
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
ha, an extreme example, but i guess "morals and ethics" really are a lot more subjective than we might imagine?
AtheistInNC comments on Oct 1, 2020:
"Treat people as I would like to be treated" ... you might want to amend that slightly, or hope you don't ever meet someone into BDSM. XD
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
ha, an extreme example, but i guess "morals and ethics" really are a lot more subjective than we might imagine?
Does being an agnostic mean that you’re on the wall or you lack acceptance?
FynTul comments on May 19, 2020:
My robot is agnostic. He thinks I am beyond his comprehension. He knows I am real but I haven't taught him about lies yet. So he is way too honest to interact with religious people. He'd have a meltdown.
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Grin. I like the term but none really apply to me other than scientist. I know or I don't ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
you say you dont do faith or trust; do you ever fly on airlines? Doesnt it maybe take a fair amount of "faith" to drive 55mph down a two lane highway with another guy coming right by you in the opposite direction?
FynTul comments on May 19, 2020:
My robot is agnostic. He thinks I am beyond his comprehension. He knows I am real but I haven't taught him about lies yet. So he is way too honest to interact with religious people. He'd have a meltdown.
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Grin. I like the term but none really apply to me other than scientist. I know or I don't ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
you say you dont do faith or trust; do you ever fly on airlines? Doesnt it maybe take a fair amount of "faith" to drive 55mph down a two lane highway with another guy coming right by you in the opposite direction?
Does being an agnostic mean that you’re on the wall or you lack acceptance?
Mb_Man comments on Jun 13, 2020:
If you can't find a box that fits you right, give stepping outside a try. All you need to remember are 3 simple words.
I don't know.
No lengthy dictionary derived explanation of why you are correct is required. Because the conclusion is built into the statement.
I've been though the process...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
anyone who can admit they dont know is seriously on the right path imo, and according to many hints in the Bible, too. Manna is called *What is it?*, Adam and Eve's supposed sin was *eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge,* and etc
*He who says he knows anything does not yet know it as he ought*
Mb_Man comments on Jun 13, 2020:
If you can't find a box that fits you right, give stepping outside a try. All you need to remember are 3 simple words.
I don't know.
No lengthy dictionary derived explanation of why you are correct is required. Because the conclusion is built into the statement.
I've been though the process...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
anyone who can admit they dont know is seriously on the right path imo, and according to many hints in the Bible, too. Manna is called *What is it?*, Adam and Eve's supposed sin was *eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge,* and etc
*He who says he knows anything does not yet know it as he ought*
Does being an agnostic mean that you’re on the wall or you lack acceptance?
ChestRockfield comments on Sep 8, 2020:
I agree with your sentiments. Ultimately, you will not reach a consensus of definitions of those words here. For me it seems simple. Agnosticism deals with with you can know. Atheism deals with what you believe. Since no one can know whether god exists, EVERYONE * should * be agnostic. Then if ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
thing there is, it's easy to get caught out even in the definition of "exists," which pop definitions for usually include "objective evidence." So, surely you agree that there are things that are real that we cannot provide "objective evidence" for? The point here being that even in the Bible Yah makes no claims to "existence" per se
ChestRockfield comments on Sep 8, 2020:
I agree with your sentiments. Ultimately, you will not reach a consensus of definitions of those words here. For me it seems simple. Agnosticism deals with with you can know. Atheism deals with what you believe. Since no one can know whether god exists, EVERYONE * should * be agnostic. Then if ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
thing there is, it's easy to get caught out even in the definition of "exists," which pop definitions for usually include "objective evidence." So, surely you agree that there are things that are real that we cannot provide "objective evidence" for? The point here being that even in the Bible Yah makes no claims to "existence" per se
I've been attending AA meetings (for the second time) for about 50 days now, and my issues with ...
bbyrd009 comments on Oct 1, 2020:
Rational Recovery
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
the drawback being it is you, all alone. Great book to read, though
bbyrd009 comments on Oct 1, 2020:
Rational Recovery
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
the drawback being it is you, all alone. Great book to read, though
What can an atheist say to a Christian to convince him.
Julie808 comments on Oct 1, 2020:
Good point. That's a good starting place. Even just asking where the believer thinks Hell is, a physical place, under the earth, or a state of mind, a turmoil we put ourselves in when we don't do what we know is right.
If it's a physical place, why haven't we been able to find it with ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
@jlynn37 just like the Bible plainly says, yes
Julie808 comments on Oct 1, 2020:
Good point. That's a good starting place. Even just asking where the believer thinks Hell is, a physical place, under the earth, or a state of mind, a turmoil we put ourselves in when we don't do what we know is right.
If it's a physical place, why haven't we been able to find it with ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
@jlynn37 just like the Bible plainly says, yes
What can an atheist say to a Christian to convince him.
Mvtt comments on Oct 1, 2020:
Virgin birth? Resurrection of the dead? Those sound just as far fetched to me. Probably more so as we have the here and now to compare it to.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
ha those were never meant to be taken literally ok guys, there are perfectly reasonable analogies for all of those
Mvtt comments on Oct 1, 2020:
Virgin birth? Resurrection of the dead? Those sound just as far fetched to me. Probably more so as we have the here and now to compare it to.
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
ha those were never meant to be taken literally ok guys, there are perfectly reasonable analogies for all of those
What can an atheist say to a Christian to convince him.
Pedrohbds comments on Oct 2, 2020:
In general religion is not about rational arguments, is about identity. The identity of religion is imprinted from birth and then is difficult to argue against it. You are not discussing an idea, you are discussing the identity of the person. It does not trigger a healthy discussion, it triggers ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
what he said, ya
Pedrohbds comments on Oct 2, 2020:
In general religion is not about rational arguments, is about identity. The identity of religion is imprinted from birth and then is difficult to argue against it. You are not discussing an idea, you are discussing the identity of the person. It does not trigger a healthy discussion, it triggers ...
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 2, 2020:
what he said, ya
Real Proof that Jesus was NOT real - YouTube
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 28, 2020:
This isn't very well done, and some of it is N O N S E Q U I T U R.
I just keep it simple, I don't believe it.
Atheist with theological backgrounds have dismissed most of the Sun worshiping theories from Zeitgeist as seriously lame, and this is just carbon copy Zeitgeist paste Zeitgeist and that ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 30, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp ha alrighty then
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 28, 2020:
This isn't very well done, and some of it is N O N S E Q U I T U R.
I just keep it simple, I don't believe it.
Atheist with theological backgrounds have dismissed most of the Sun worshiping theories from Zeitgeist as seriously lame, and this is just carbon copy Zeitgeist paste Zeitgeist and that ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 30, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp ha alrighty then
Real Proof that Jesus was NOT real - YouTube
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 28, 2020:
This isn't very well done, and some of it is N O N S E Q U I T U R.
I just keep it simple, I don't believe it.
Atheist with theological backgrounds have dismissed most of the Sun worshiping theories from Zeitgeist as seriously lame, and this is just carbon copy Zeitgeist paste Zeitgeist and that ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp ha ok well "beliefs are a pimple on the forehead of understanding" far as im concerned
oh and the proposal still stands ok :D
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 28, 2020:
This isn't very well done, and some of it is N O N S E Q U I T U R.
I just keep it simple, I don't believe it.
Atheist with theological backgrounds have dismissed most of the Sun worshiping theories from Zeitgeist as seriously lame, and this is just carbon copy Zeitgeist paste Zeitgeist and that ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp ha ok well "beliefs are a pimple on the forehead of understanding" far as im concerned
oh and the proposal still stands ok :D
I am my own priestess of atheism, and only for me not anyone else.
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 29, 2020:
*Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.*
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@Desertcactus my guess would be that the elements in there need to be defined in a way differently than a Christian would; hence, no really Old White Guy, no son of man dying for our sins, etc
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 29, 2020:
*Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.*
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@Desertcactus my guess would be that the elements in there need to be defined in a way differently than a Christian would; hence, no really Old White Guy, no son of man dying for our sins, etc
I am my own priestess of atheism, and only for me not anyone else.
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 29, 2020:
*Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.*
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp yeh, pretty much :)
just seemed to be in agreement with you
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 29, 2020:
*Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.*
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp yeh, pretty much :)
just seemed to be in agreement with you
Something a little philosophical?
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Sep 29, 2020:
Meaning quite simply comes from curiosity for learning and discovery, from creativity, and from relationship connections we form throughout our life journey. Throw on a measure of humor and whimsey, which are both offshoots of creativity, and that is the cherry on top. How we organize and ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
it isnt called *What is it?* for nothing i guess
MikeInBatonRouge comments on Sep 29, 2020:
Meaning quite simply comes from curiosity for learning and discovery, from creativity, and from relationship connections we form throughout our life journey. Throw on a measure of humor and whimsey, which are both offshoots of creativity, and that is the cherry on top. How we organize and ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
it isnt called *What is it?* for nothing i guess
Real Proof that Jesus was NOT real - YouTube
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 28, 2020:
This isn't very well done, and some of it is N O N S E Q U I T U R.
I just keep it simple, I don't believe it.
Atheist with theological backgrounds have dismissed most of the Sun worshiping theories from Zeitgeist as seriously lame, and this is just carbon copy Zeitgeist paste Zeitgeist and that ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp well, do you mean the lies Xtians tell? Who cares about them? Or i mean what comes out of their pie holes lol
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 28, 2020:
This isn't very well done, and some of it is N O N S E Q U I T U R.
I just keep it simple, I don't believe it.
Atheist with theological backgrounds have dismissed most of the Sun worshiping theories from Zeitgeist as seriously lame, and this is just carbon copy Zeitgeist paste Zeitgeist and that ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp well, do you mean the lies Xtians tell? Who cares about them? Or i mean what comes out of their pie holes lol
Something a little philosophical?
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 29, 2020:
interesting; ive always believed, but never bought the definition of eternity as forever, and never quite understood what ppl mean by "meaning" i guess. Quite inspired art there, you got talent imo
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@jedimasterpaul well i guess eternity as defined in the Bible is "a space of time, an age" anyway
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 29, 2020:
interesting; ive always believed, but never bought the definition of eternity as forever, and never quite understood what ppl mean by "meaning" i guess. Quite inspired art there, you got talent imo
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
@jedimasterpaul well i guess eternity as defined in the Bible is "a space of time, an age" anyway
So where do you get your morality from if you’re an atheist?
Larimar comments on Sep 29, 2020:
I have heard this sooooo many times. Once at a party in my own home--my response to him is that if a skygod is the only thing preventing him raping and killing, then he should rethink that shit. Myself, I have self control, dude. Why would I want to hurt anyone else?
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
believe it or not that is encoded in the Bible; Christians are *Esau*, who needs *red stew*, and *it isnt well people who need a physician, but the sick*
Larimar comments on Sep 29, 2020:
I have heard this sooooo many times. Once at a party in my own home--my response to him is that if a skygod is the only thing preventing him raping and killing, then he should rethink that shit. Myself, I have self control, dude. Why would I want to hurt anyone else?
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
believe it or not that is encoded in the Bible; Christians are *Esau*, who needs *red stew*, and *it isnt well people who need a physician, but the sick*
Real Proof that Jesus was NOT real - YouTube
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 28, 2020:
This isn't very well done, and some of it is N O N S E Q U I T U R.
I just keep it simple, I don't believe it.
Atheist with theological backgrounds have dismissed most of the Sun worshiping theories from Zeitgeist as seriously lame, and this is just carbon copy Zeitgeist paste Zeitgeist and that ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
hmm, the Bible is pretty plain, *No son of man may die for another's sins,* et al, even if Xtians are not interested in the truth of it, so i would ask you what lies?
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 28, 2020:
This isn't very well done, and some of it is N O N S E Q U I T U R.
I just keep it simple, I don't believe it.
Atheist with theological backgrounds have dismissed most of the Sun worshiping theories from Zeitgeist as seriously lame, and this is just carbon copy Zeitgeist paste Zeitgeist and that ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
hmm, the Bible is pretty plain, *No son of man may die for another's sins,* et al, even if Xtians are not interested in the truth of it, so i would ask you what lies?
So where do you get your morality from if you’re an atheist?
anglophone comments on Sep 29, 2020:
Given that the God of the Bible is a genocidal maniac with catastrophic anger management issues, I see no reason to take any of my morals from said god.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
ha you guys know none of that stuff is in there right
anglophone comments on Sep 29, 2020:
Given that the God of the Bible is a genocidal maniac with catastrophic anger management issues, I see no reason to take any of my morals from said god.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
ha you guys know none of that stuff is in there right
Something a little philosophical?
Fernapple comments on Sep 29, 2020:
You can choose between the meaning you create yourself, just as you paint. Or you can take the off the shelf meaning created by fake authority, and sold by dealers in church.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
politicians seem pretty adept at that too
Fernapple comments on Sep 29, 2020:
You can choose between the meaning you create yourself, just as you paint. Or you can take the off the shelf meaning created by fake authority, and sold by dealers in church.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
politicians seem pretty adept at that too
Something a little philosophical?
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 29, 2020:
I love it artistically, it reminds me of a high contrast painting of Christ called “The Agony” I think, mostly black with the highlighted outer edge of a mans face clearly wearing a crown of thorns. I love the composition even if it’s only artistically inspirational. I get the same feel from ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
im assuming your image there is not the one you referenced; is that your art?
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 29, 2020:
I love it artistically, it reminds me of a high contrast painting of Christ called “The Agony” I think, mostly black with the highlighted outer edge of a mans face clearly wearing a crown of thorns. I love the composition even if it’s only artistically inspirational. I get the same feel from ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
im assuming your image there is not the one you referenced; is that your art?
A reminder for the religious...
Mvtt comments on Sep 29, 2020:
Shouldn’t even be a word. Alas, theism exists.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
doesnt seem that out of line to me to ponder how we got to here? The bowing and scraping i could pass on, but tbh a Monty Python kinda God, who would object to that?
Mvtt comments on Sep 29, 2020:
Shouldn’t even be a word. Alas, theism exists.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 29, 2020:
doesnt seem that out of line to me to ponder how we got to here? The bowing and scraping i could pass on, but tbh a Monty Python kinda God, who would object to that?
17 Bible Verses to Remind You of God's Constant Protection
IAJO163 comments on Sep 12, 2020:
This was definitely a fun post. Apparently many didn't understand my tagline and expressed anger at the post instead of dissecting it as some did. To my understanding this is not a place to hide from religion but to discuss the absurdities of it. Y'all with me?
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 26, 2020:
@HenAgnDon *i know the wolves will rush in as soon as i leave, not sparing the flock* eh
IAJO163 comments on Sep 12, 2020:
This was definitely a fun post. Apparently many didn't understand my tagline and expressed anger at the post instead of dissecting it as some did. To my understanding this is not a place to hide from religion but to discuss the absurdities of it. Y'all with me?
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 26, 2020:
@HenAgnDon *i know the wolves will rush in as soon as i leave, not sparing the flock* eh
“There is really only one question you ever need to direct at someone to work out whether or not ...
Larry-new comments on Sep 22, 2020:
Bullshit.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 22, 2020:
ha well you can testify of yourself if you like, but your testimony is invalid i guess?
it is the religious who go around *commending themselves to each other*
Larry-new comments on Sep 22, 2020:
Bullshit.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 22, 2020:
ha well you can testify of yourself if you like, but your testimony is invalid i guess?
it is the religious who go around *commending themselves to each other*
Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...
TaylorWalston comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Provisional certainty that men created gods is valid until a god demonstrates otherwise. Belief is not synonymous with knowledge. I can believe this, I might be wrong, and I would adjust my position 8n the light of good evidence. There is no invocation of deity in this position, so it is not ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 22, 2020:
it isnt *Unknown God* for nothing either, i am fairly convinced
TaylorWalston comments on Sep 20, 2020:
Provisional certainty that men created gods is valid until a god demonstrates otherwise. Belief is not synonymous with knowledge. I can believe this, I might be wrong, and I would adjust my position 8n the light of good evidence. There is no invocation of deity in this position, so it is not ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 22, 2020:
it isnt *Unknown God* for nothing either, i am fairly convinced
Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...
DenoPenno comments on Sep 21, 2020:
We progress along this way but religion and your bible has no clue. They just keep making it up.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 22, 2020:
ha you might be surprised how surprised you might be, dp
see yourself speaking in absolutes yes? no?
i dont know
DenoPenno comments on Sep 21, 2020:
We progress along this way but religion and your bible has no clue. They just keep making it up.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 22, 2020:
ha you might be surprised how surprised you might be, dp
see yourself speaking in absolutes yes? no?
i dont know
Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...
Coffeo comments on Sep 19, 2020:
I don't think any absolutes exist outside mathematics.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 22, 2020:
@Triphid "But that does NOT mean that gravity/gravitational attraction does NOT exist between objects, for example, the moon exerts..." hmm, you think? those cant all be accounted for by a gravity well scenario iyo?
Coffeo comments on Sep 19, 2020:
I don't think any absolutes exist outside mathematics.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 22, 2020:
@Triphid "But that does NOT mean that gravity/gravitational attraction does NOT exist between objects, for example, the moon exerts..." hmm, you think? those cant all be accounted for by a gravity well scenario iyo?
Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...
Coffeo comments on Sep 19, 2020:
I don't think any absolutes exist outside mathematics.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 21, 2020:
@Coffeo https://youtu.be/rKPv8zApee0
Coffeo comments on Sep 19, 2020:
I don't think any absolutes exist outside mathematics.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 21, 2020:
@Coffeo https://youtu.be/rKPv8zApee0
Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...
Coffeo comments on Sep 19, 2020:
I don't think any absolutes exist outside mathematics.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 21, 2020:
@Triphid gravity has undergone a revision in understanding in the last fifty years--we no longer believe in some "mysterious force that attracts," but rather "spacetime gets warped," and we are struggling right now with the "laws" of motion, which do not work at very small scales
Coffeo comments on Sep 19, 2020:
I don't think any absolutes exist outside mathematics.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 21, 2020:
@Triphid gravity has undergone a revision in understanding in the last fifty years--we no longer believe in some "mysterious force that attracts," but rather "spacetime gets warped," and we are struggling right now with the "laws" of motion, which do not work at very small scales
Any time one allows absolutes to exist in the mind, that person has joined the ranks of the ...
Coffeo comments on Sep 19, 2020:
I don't think any absolutes exist outside mathematics.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 21, 2020:
@Coffeo ha i just saw a lecture on "nothing," which is apparently a virtually impossible state to manifest, ya
Coffeo comments on Sep 19, 2020:
I don't think any absolutes exist outside mathematics.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 21, 2020:
@Coffeo ha i just saw a lecture on "nothing," which is apparently a virtually impossible state to manifest, ya
Please raise your hand if you're an atheist AND antitheist.
Rossy92 comments on Sep 19, 2020:
Of course I hate the harm that religions does. But insofar as it helps or does good, there is still a part of me which despises its lies, and especially arrogant belief in those lies.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 19, 2020:
*He who says he knows anything, does not yet know as he ought*
Rossy92 comments on Sep 19, 2020:
Of course I hate the harm that religions does. But insofar as it helps or does good, there is still a part of me which despises its lies, and especially arrogant belief in those lies.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 19, 2020:
*He who says he knows anything, does not yet know as he ought*
The richest 1 percent
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Just a point here, the upper 1% is a term that annoys me.
350,000,000 Americans that would mean 3,500,000 were getting all the Tax breaks but it's more like less than 70,000 that get all the breaks so it's really the upper 0.02% that controls all the money.
In realistic taxation proposals many in ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 17, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp will you marry me?
:D
Willow_Wisp comments on Sep 17, 2020:
Just a point here, the upper 1% is a term that annoys me.
350,000,000 Americans that would mean 3,500,000 were getting all the Tax breaks but it's more like less than 70,000 that get all the breaks so it's really the upper 0.02% that controls all the money.
In realistic taxation proposals many in ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 17, 2020:
@Willow_Wisp will you marry me?
:D
When someone says they are spiritual and also agnostic-atheist, I always wonder, "Do they believe ...
FSMGirl comments on Sep 15, 2020:
They could be referencing Carl Sagan's definition of spirituality, which has nothing to do with the supernatural and everything to do with expressing awe and wonder with the world.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 16, 2020:
ezackly :)
FSMGirl comments on Sep 15, 2020:
They could be referencing Carl Sagan's definition of spirituality, which has nothing to do with the supernatural and everything to do with expressing awe and wonder with the world.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 16, 2020:
ezackly :)
How could Adam and Eve sin if they didn't know sin yet?
dalefvictor comments on Jul 5, 2020:
If Adam and Eve, Adam's second wife, did not eat the apple then their story has no content. Without the apple the story stops.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 14, 2020:
i guess eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge is something we all do, at least in the west. Its strictly an analogy, eh?
dalefvictor comments on Jul 5, 2020:
If Adam and Eve, Adam's second wife, did not eat the apple then their story has no content. Without the apple the story stops.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 14, 2020:
i guess eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge is something we all do, at least in the west. Its strictly an analogy, eh?
17 Bible Verses to Remind You of God's Constant Protection
IAJO163 comments on Sep 12, 2020:
This was definitely a fun post. Apparently many didn't understand my tagline and expressed anger at the post instead of dissecting it as some did. To my understanding this is not a place to hide from religion but to discuss the absurdities of it. Y'all with me?
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 14, 2020:
its so easy to forget that the religious are the most vilified in the Bible, and the NT is literally the record of the *implosion* of a Theocracy
IAJO163 comments on Sep 12, 2020:
This was definitely a fun post. Apparently many didn't understand my tagline and expressed anger at the post instead of dissecting it as some did. To my understanding this is not a place to hide from religion but to discuss the absurdities of it. Y'all with me?
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 14, 2020:
its so easy to forget that the religious are the most vilified in the Bible, and the NT is literally the record of the *implosion* of a Theocracy
Hello, everyone! I was an active member back in 2017/2018 but had a very bad experience through ...
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 12, 2020:
> How is everyone?
## Moi? I'm so wonderful it's disgusting to give the details. I'll spare you the details of how amazingly amazing I am least you become disgusted with the details.
This month I plan to wander away to Cade's Cove, Tennessee in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, far, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 13, 2020:
i lived on anna maria for a year, sold cars at the oldsmobile place in bradenton, dunno if its still there. played volleyball out at the restaurant on the end :) guess i picked a good year, dont recall any red tides
WonderWartHog99 comments on Sep 12, 2020:
> How is everyone?
## Moi? I'm so wonderful it's disgusting to give the details. I'll spare you the details of how amazingly amazing I am least you become disgusted with the details.
This month I plan to wander away to Cade's Cove, Tennessee in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, far, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 13, 2020:
i lived on anna maria for a year, sold cars at the oldsmobile place in bradenton, dunno if its still there. played volleyball out at the restaurant on the end :) guess i picked a good year, dont recall any red tides
Been deprogrammed from religion for about 3 1/2 years.
xenoview comments on Sep 10, 2020:
Religion is used to control people. It does that by teaching them not to think about religion. But to follow it.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 10, 2020:
im thinking that that might be the best way to control a ppl who would kill a scapegoat anyway? Ppl can get pretty evil when their self-interests are threatened i guess
xenoview comments on Sep 10, 2020:
Religion is used to control people. It does that by teaching them not to think about religion. But to follow it.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 10, 2020:
im thinking that that might be the best way to control a ppl who would kill a scapegoat anyway? Ppl can get pretty evil when their self-interests are threatened i guess
75 years ago: Chinese Communist Party wins victories in renewed civil war
This week in September...
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 9, 2020:
interesting to me that China is like the only major power which has no history of formal logic, apparently...
...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 10, 2020:
@LenHazell53 confucius did? Im noticing that Confucius is recognized as "the rich man's way," though, not sure what to make of that
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 9, 2020:
interesting to me that China is like the only major power which has no history of formal logic, apparently...
...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 10, 2020:
@LenHazell53 confucius did? Im noticing that Confucius is recognized as "the rich man's way," though, not sure what to make of that
75 years ago: Chinese Communist Party wins victories in renewed civil war
This week in September...
Theresa_N comments on Sep 9, 2020:
It's sad, but all communist regimes become authoritarian.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 9, 2020:
man, i think all regimes period?
Theresa_N comments on Sep 9, 2020:
It's sad, but all communist regimes become authoritarian.
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 9, 2020:
man, i think all regimes period?
Weirdest Passages You've Read?
BestWithoutGods comments on Sep 7, 2020:
If I remember correctly, it was Lot whose daughters got him drunk and had sex with him. Then both daughters had children, whose father was also their grandfather. 😲
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 8, 2020:
which surely never literally happened, ok; there are analogies for "drunk, incest," etc. No literal whores are employed at *your prophets have gone a'whoring* either, surely
BestWithoutGods comments on Sep 7, 2020:
If I remember correctly, it was Lot whose daughters got him drunk and had sex with him. Then both daughters had children, whose father was also their grandfather. 😲
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 8, 2020:
which surely never literally happened, ok; there are analogies for "drunk, incest," etc. No literal whores are employed at *your prophets have gone a'whoring* either, surely
Weirdest Passages You've Read?
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 7, 2020:
ha ok you know most of that OT stuff is surely not meant to be taken literally?
https://biblicalhistoricalcontext.com/israelite-origins/israelite-origins-putting-away-childish-things/
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 8, 2020:
@SanDiegoAirport proof, lol, priceless
lets just say that your standard of "proof" is not ezackly universal ok.
no one ever lived anywhere near a thousand years, surely, and i suggest--dont know, but suggest--that those ages, 969 years, etc, are meant to impart a more important spiritual truth. Take Genesis literally if you like, but understand that *wisdom is hidden from the wise,* or iow "ppl who have eaten the fruit of the tree of *knowledge,* and now speak as if they know stuff." have a nice day, and you might actually click on the link for more
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 7, 2020:
ha ok you know most of that OT stuff is surely not meant to be taken literally?
https://biblicalhistoricalcontext.com/israelite-origins/israelite-origins-putting-away-childish-things/
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 8, 2020:
@SanDiegoAirport proof, lol, priceless
lets just say that your standard of "proof" is not ezackly universal ok.
no one ever lived anywhere near a thousand years, surely, and i suggest--dont know, but suggest--that those ages, 969 years, etc, are meant to impart a more important spiritual truth. Take Genesis literally if you like, but understand that *wisdom is hidden from the wise,* or iow "ppl who have eaten the fruit of the tree of *knowledge,* and now speak as if they know stuff." have a nice day, and you might actually click on the link for more
Weirdest Passages You've Read?
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 7, 2020:
ha ok you know most of that OT stuff is surely not meant to be taken literally?
https://biblicalhistoricalcontext.com/israelite-origins/israelite-origins-putting-away-childish-things/
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 8, 2020:
@LenHazell53 well, im not sure about anything, but i found the link rather compelling
no walls of Jericho, no mass exterminations, and the authors would have known that these could be found out, too
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 7, 2020:
ha ok you know most of that OT stuff is surely not meant to be taken literally?
https://biblicalhistoricalcontext.com/israelite-origins/israelite-origins-putting-away-childish-things/
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 8, 2020:
@LenHazell53 well, im not sure about anything, but i found the link rather compelling
no walls of Jericho, no mass exterminations, and the authors would have known that these could be found out, too
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of ...
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 5, 2020:
what better way, really, to keep a "lost" person in line? Ppl are bloodthirsty, and would even sacrifice their children if they could i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 7, 2020:
@MissKathleen but if you read it right, you can walk on water too ;)
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 5, 2020:
what better way, really, to keep a "lost" person in line? Ppl are bloodthirsty, and would even sacrifice their children if they could i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 7, 2020:
@MissKathleen but if you read it right, you can walk on water too ;)
Even as an atheist, I believe that evil exists.
t1nick comments on Sep 5, 2020:
The concept of "overpopulation" is greatly misunderstood by most. Overpopulation is not necessarily about physical numbers only. Evolutionarily, overpopulation is about sustainability and environmental "fitness" for purpose of propagating the species.
In the case of the human species, its about...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 6, 2020:
or more likely near-extinction, yes? I think we have already had a couple of bottlenecks? https://io9.gizmodo.com/close-calls-three-times-when-the-human-race-barely-esc-1730998797
t1nick comments on Sep 5, 2020:
The concept of "overpopulation" is greatly misunderstood by most. Overpopulation is not necessarily about physical numbers only. Evolutionarily, overpopulation is about sustainability and environmental "fitness" for purpose of propagating the species.
In the case of the human species, its about...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 6, 2020:
or more likely near-extinction, yes? I think we have already had a couple of bottlenecks? https://io9.gizmodo.com/close-calls-three-times-when-the-human-race-barely-esc-1730998797
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of ...
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 5, 2020:
what better way, really, to keep a "lost" person in line? Ppl are bloodthirsty, and would even sacrifice their children if they could i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 6, 2020:
@MissKathleen ha well if one reads it literally, prolly not
also, imo most English versions are hopelessly corrupted, "Lord" is an Englyshe title, "hell" is the invention of Norse/Angle scribes, etc
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 5, 2020:
what better way, really, to keep a "lost" person in line? Ppl are bloodthirsty, and would even sacrifice their children if they could i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 6, 2020:
@MissKathleen ha well if one reads it literally, prolly not
also, imo most English versions are hopelessly corrupted, "Lord" is an Englyshe title, "hell" is the invention of Norse/Angle scribes, etc
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of ...
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 5, 2020:
what better way, really, to keep a "lost" person in line? Ppl are bloodthirsty, and would even sacrifice their children if they could i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 6, 2020:
@MissKathleen fwiw the Bible very clearly states *No son of man may die for another's sins, No one has ever gone up to heaven,* etc
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 5, 2020:
what better way, really, to keep a "lost" person in line? Ppl are bloodthirsty, and would even sacrifice their children if they could i guess
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 6, 2020:
@MissKathleen fwiw the Bible very clearly states *No son of man may die for another's sins, No one has ever gone up to heaven,* etc
Even as an atheist, I believe that evil exists.
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 5, 2020:
who is promoting an increase in pop?
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 6, 2020:
@PBuck0145 well, you state that overpop is the root cause of most of our probs, and this is at least debatable imo
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 5, 2020:
who is promoting an increase in pop?
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 6, 2020:
@PBuck0145 well, you state that overpop is the root cause of most of our probs, and this is at least debatable imo
Why do Atheist like to talk about God so much?
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 1, 2020:
the link between atheism and fundamentalism is pretty well documented i think. "Atheism" is at its core just another religion, a similar but diff group with "Gnossis," iow another bunch of ppl who believe they "know" something? *He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought* So really they are ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 5, 2020:
i did not make the links between atheism and fundamentalism btw
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 1, 2020:
the link between atheism and fundamentalism is pretty well documented i think. "Atheism" is at its core just another religion, a similar but diff group with "Gnossis," iow another bunch of ppl who believe they "know" something? *He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought* So really they are ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 5, 2020:
i did not make the links between atheism and fundamentalism btw
Why do Atheist like to talk about God so much?
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 1, 2020:
the link between atheism and fundamentalism is pretty well documented i think. "Atheism" is at its core just another religion, a similar but diff group with "Gnossis," iow another bunch of ppl who believe they "know" something? *He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought* So really they are ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 5, 2020:
@ohmiagato "Atheism is not a religion!" lol if you stamp your foot while youre saying that it might help :)
but srsly, i think Atheism has as many definitions as there are people, probably. Fwiw i srsly doubt the Old White Guy in the White Robe myself, ok. Why look for evidence for something intangible? A "spirit" eh? peace
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 1, 2020:
the link between atheism and fundamentalism is pretty well documented i think. "Atheism" is at its core just another religion, a similar but diff group with "Gnossis," iow another bunch of ppl who believe they "know" something? *He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought* So really they are ...
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 5, 2020:
@ohmiagato "Atheism is not a religion!" lol if you stamp your foot while youre saying that it might help :)
but srsly, i think Atheism has as many definitions as there are people, probably. Fwiw i srsly doubt the Old White Guy in the White Robe myself, ok. Why look for evidence for something intangible? A "spirit" eh? peace
God's loophole
MissKathleen comments on Sep 4, 2020:
“If you never get married, then it’s not premarital sex.”
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 4, 2020:
:D
MissKathleen comments on Sep 4, 2020:
“If you never get married, then it’s not premarital sex.”
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 4, 2020:
:D
God, just your brain making shit up and then pretending to believe in it when it suits you.
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 1, 2020:
problem with that theory is that most people come together on it, even if it gets distorted along the way, and we end up with an old white guy in a beard :)
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 3, 2020:
@Surfpirate but again, a "spirit" is still being personified, yeh? Just like "believers" do? Iow "he" is now being imagined literally, rather than "he" as a convenience of syntax
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 1, 2020:
problem with that theory is that most people come together on it, even if it gets distorted along the way, and we end up with an old white guy in a beard :)
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 3, 2020:
@Surfpirate but again, a "spirit" is still being personified, yeh? Just like "believers" do? Iow "he" is now being imagined literally, rather than "he" as a convenience of syntax
It seems like I saw this sign for 30 years when I was driving to work
Dorkyndaft comments on Sep 3, 2020:
Considering that there are always more standing around talking and socializing than there are actually working, it seems to be having an impact at least. LOL
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 3, 2020:
narf
Dorkyndaft comments on Sep 3, 2020:
Considering that there are always more standing around talking and socializing than there are actually working, it seems to be having an impact at least. LOL
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 3, 2020:
narf
God, just your brain making shit up and then pretending to believe in it when it suits you.
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 1, 2020:
problem with that theory is that most people come together on it, even if it gets distorted along the way, and we end up with an old white guy in a beard :)
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 2, 2020:
@Surfpirate ha well i would submit that im looking at an Old White Guy, right there, am i not? Who has seen this Old White Guy? He isnt in the Bible anywhere that i can find, either. etc
bbyrd009 comments on Sep 1, 2020:
problem with that theory is that most people come together on it, even if it gets distorted along the way, and we end up with an old white guy in a beard :)
bbyrd009 replies on Sep 2, 2020:
@Surfpirate ha well i would submit that im looking at an Old White Guy, right there, am i not? Who has seen this Old White Guy? He isnt in the Bible anywhere that i can find, either. etc
LOL I just posted one, word-for-word, that I posted last year! I deleted it, but searching for ...
Babyoda comments on Aug 27, 2020:
You could just keep using last years.😁♻
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 30, 2020:
narf
Babyoda comments on Aug 27, 2020:
You could just keep using last years.😁♻
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 30, 2020:
narf
Here’s a question.
RussRAB comments on Aug 30, 2020:
The problem would be to get atheists as a group to get behind whatever dogma is devised and decided upon. This phenomenon isn't unique to atheists - just look at the disagreement on dogma that exists among theists even within a single religion - but since many atheists come from religion, they more ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 30, 2020:
word
RussRAB comments on Aug 30, 2020:
The problem would be to get atheists as a group to get behind whatever dogma is devised and decided upon. This phenomenon isn't unique to atheists - just look at the disagreement on dogma that exists among theists even within a single religion - but since many atheists come from religion, they more ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 30, 2020:
word
There are many well known atheists, agnostics and scientists who have said, and without much ...
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 17, 2020:
i would send those guys up to skinwalker ranch lol, and let them explain what goes on there! :)
interesting to me that those same guys would surely admit that we know of less than 6% of all that exists, according to our calculations, and the rest is "dark?"
1)*No one has ever gone up to heaven...*...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 21, 2020:
@GROG well i never researched it, just recalled the supposedly scientific experiment done in the back of the book
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 17, 2020:
i would send those guys up to skinwalker ranch lol, and let them explain what goes on there! :)
interesting to me that those same guys would surely admit that we know of less than 6% of all that exists, according to our calculations, and the rest is "dark?"
1)*No one has ever gone up to heaven...*...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 21, 2020:
@GROG well i never researched it, just recalled the supposedly scientific experiment done in the back of the book
There are many well known atheists, agnostics and scientists who have said, and without much ...
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 17, 2020:
i would send those guys up to skinwalker ranch lol, and let them explain what goes on there! :)
interesting to me that those same guys would surely admit that we know of less than 6% of all that exists, according to our calculations, and the rest is "dark?"
1)*No one has ever gone up to heaven...*...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 20, 2020:
@GROG the bulk of it was images of water from diff sources frozen into crystals, highlighting the effects of manufactured water; but there is an interesting cloud experiment in the back which i guess was documented, ppl trying to will clouds to either dissipate or accumulate
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 17, 2020:
i would send those guys up to skinwalker ranch lol, and let them explain what goes on there! :)
interesting to me that those same guys would surely admit that we know of less than 6% of all that exists, according to our calculations, and the rest is "dark?"
1)*No one has ever gone up to heaven...*...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 20, 2020:
@GROG the bulk of it was images of water from diff sources frozen into crystals, highlighting the effects of manufactured water; but there is an interesting cloud experiment in the back which i guess was documented, ppl trying to will clouds to either dissipate or accumulate
There are many well known atheists, agnostics and scientists who have said, and without much ...
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 17, 2020:
i would send those guys up to skinwalker ranch lol, and let them explain what goes on there! :)
interesting to me that those same guys would surely admit that we know of less than 6% of all that exists, according to our calculations, and the rest is "dark?"
1)*No one has ever gone up to heaven...*...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
The Hidden Messages in Water, Masaru Emoto
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 17, 2020:
i would send those guys up to skinwalker ranch lol, and let them explain what goes on there! :)
interesting to me that those same guys would surely admit that we know of less than 6% of all that exists, according to our calculations, and the rest is "dark?"
1)*No one has ever gone up to heaven...*...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
The Hidden Messages in Water, Masaru Emoto
There are many well known atheists, agnostics and scientists who have said, and without much ...
Mimee comments on Aug 16, 2020:
Supernatural is a term for all of those things beyond comprehension. As human life progresses, it's becoming far easier to prune the list. Now the only thing for me is the vast unknown that still lies out of reach and therefore fascinating. Love reading up on space.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
im also struck by how little we know of species and etc too tho; how is it possible that we still know of less than half of the species on earth?
Mimee comments on Aug 16, 2020:
Supernatural is a term for all of those things beyond comprehension. As human life progresses, it's becoming far easier to prune the list. Now the only thing for me is the vast unknown that still lies out of reach and therefore fascinating. Love reading up on space.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
im also struck by how little we know of species and etc too tho; how is it possible that we still know of less than half of the species on earth?
There are many well known atheists, agnostics and scientists who have said, and without much ...
Marionville comments on Aug 17, 2020:
I have never tried to imagine heaven...as it’s something I’ve never believed exists. Belief in the supernatural is an attempt by some to find explanation for what they find incomprehensible. There are many things that we humans are unable to comprehend, not because they belong in the realms ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
@GROG dingdingdingding....
Marionville comments on Aug 17, 2020:
I have never tried to imagine heaven...as it’s something I’ve never believed exists. Belief in the supernatural is an attempt by some to find explanation for what they find incomprehensible. There are many things that we humans are unable to comprehend, not because they belong in the realms ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
@GROG dingdingdingding....
There are many well known atheists, agnostics and scientists who have said, and without much ...
DenoPenno comments on Aug 17, 2020:
I only tried to imagine heaven while in my church daze. The whole idea is preposterous !
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
*it isnt those who are well that need a physician, but those who are sick*
DenoPenno comments on Aug 17, 2020:
I only tried to imagine heaven while in my church daze. The whole idea is preposterous !
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
*it isnt those who are well that need a physician, but those who are sick*
What color was Jesus?
Cast1es comments on Aug 16, 2020:
An earlier posting , asked if there was a man named Jesus ? I don't believe it was an uncommon name . The guy across the street from my home is Jesus Garcia . So yes , I believe there was a man named Jesus . I don't believe he was the son of God any more than any of the rest of us . I strongly ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
it was the most common name in the mideast at the time (Joshua)
Cast1es comments on Aug 16, 2020:
An earlier posting , asked if there was a man named Jesus ? I don't believe it was an uncommon name . The guy across the street from my home is Jesus Garcia . So yes , I believe there was a man named Jesus . I don't believe he was the son of God any more than any of the rest of us . I strongly ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
it was the most common name in the mideast at the time (Joshua)
What color was Jesus?
Varn comments on Aug 16, 2020:
I’ve seriously doubted the existence of a jesus for some time now, so I’m still trying to determine if he/ it were human/ god..
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
yeh, it was a shock to me too, to find that it is literally written in the Bible that He did not literally exist. Problem is that that is in code, so to speak, but it really isnt too hard to lay out
Varn comments on Aug 16, 2020:
I’ve seriously doubted the existence of a jesus for some time now, so I’m still trying to determine if he/ it were human/ god..
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
yeh, it was a shock to me too, to find that it is literally written in the Bible that He did not literally exist. Problem is that that is in code, so to speak, but it really isnt too hard to lay out
What color was Jesus?
MrChange comments on Aug 16, 2020:
Why would anyone waste brain cells on this question? It goes nowhere.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
which brings up a good point; things like this might go nowhere, or with a little digging, one might discover some theory that clicks, and might even fit with some other knowledge. I was raised a baptist believer, and it was difficult to come to the understanding that Jesus probably never literally existed; but that led me to a new understanding of the Esau story, the guy who "eats red stew," and from there i found *No son of man may die for another's sins*, and the whole religious ball of bullshit came undone pretty quickly after that! Religion is hideous, and also the most roundly condemned thing in the Bible, unbeknownst to most; the NT is basically a record of the *failure* of a Theocracy, right?
MrChange comments on Aug 16, 2020:
Why would anyone waste brain cells on this question? It goes nowhere.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 17, 2020:
which brings up a good point; things like this might go nowhere, or with a little digging, one might discover some theory that clicks, and might even fit with some other knowledge. I was raised a baptist believer, and it was difficult to come to the understanding that Jesus probably never literally existed; but that led me to a new understanding of the Esau story, the guy who "eats red stew," and from there i found *No son of man may die for another's sins*, and the whole religious ball of bullshit came undone pretty quickly after that! Religion is hideous, and also the most roundly condemned thing in the Bible, unbeknownst to most; the NT is basically a record of the *failure* of a Theocracy, right?
I love being able to have reasonable conversations with like minded people (godless skeptics), but ...
Mooolah comments on Jul 12, 2020:
I choose friends by what they do. Not by what they believe. If they are a fan of Day Glo Donald, then I can't be friends as their actions do not meet my approval. If they are astrology fans, then I can be friends as their actions are less influential.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 14, 2020:
@Mooolah as good a def as any imo :)
Mooolah comments on Jul 12, 2020:
I choose friends by what they do. Not by what they believe. If they are a fan of Day Glo Donald, then I can't be friends as their actions do not meet my approval. If they are astrology fans, then I can be friends as their actions are less influential.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 14, 2020:
@Mooolah as good a def as any imo :)
Christian Bigot Flips Out After Airbnb Guest’s Review Tells People Who He Is | Hemant Mehta | ...
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 12, 2020:
"Have you ever realized that the left is permitted to be bigoted?"
lol, priceless
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 13, 2020:
@xenoview i hate everybody :D
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 12, 2020:
"Have you ever realized that the left is permitted to be bigoted?"
lol, priceless
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 13, 2020:
@xenoview i hate everybody :D
Do all Christian denominations believe only they will go to heaven?
SCal comments on Aug 8, 2020:
Who cares what zealots think about a made up heaven and hell?
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
@SCal word
Yah doesnt either btw
*Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power...*
SCal comments on Aug 8, 2020:
Who cares what zealots think about a made up heaven and hell?
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
@SCal word
Yah doesnt either btw
*Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power...*
Do all Christian denominations believe only they will go to heaven?
snytiger6 comments on Aug 8, 2020:
Most Christian denominations believe they are the one and only "true" church, and all other demonimations won't go to heaven.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
and they are all in denial that the Bible specifically says *No one has ever gone up to heaven* lol
snytiger6 comments on Aug 8, 2020:
Most Christian denominations believe they are the one and only "true" church, and all other demonimations won't go to heaven.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
and they are all in denial that the Bible specifically says *No one has ever gone up to heaven* lol
Do all Christian denominations believe only they will go to heaven?
SCal comments on Aug 8, 2020:
Who cares what zealots think about a made up heaven and hell?
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
bc they are the idiots getting elected to council positions in your town maybe
SCal comments on Aug 8, 2020:
Who cares what zealots think about a made up heaven and hell?
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
bc they are the idiots getting elected to council positions in your town maybe
Do all Christian denominations believe only they will go to heaven?
Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 8, 2020:
Why would I care what they believe.
It's not real, until they F up government.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
hmm you dont think politics and religion go handinhand?
Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 8, 2020:
Why would I care what they believe.
It's not real, until they F up government.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
hmm you dont think politics and religion go handinhand?
Do all Christian denominations believe only they will go to heaven?
p-nullifidian comments on Aug 9, 2020:
While I no longer care for such opinions, there may at least be one Catholic who does not appear to share your friend's belief.
“You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing –...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
ha i love that guy lol, hes a total disruptor imo
p-nullifidian comments on Aug 9, 2020:
While I no longer care for such opinions, there may at least be one Catholic who does not appear to share your friend's belief.
“You ask me if the God of the Christians forgives those who don’t believe and who don’t seek the faith. I start by saying – and this is the fundamental thing –...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 12, 2020:
ha i love that guy lol, hes a total disruptor imo
Faith.
DenoPenno comments on Aug 5, 2020:
The big questions are how does a fire burn forever and how do you have a soul that lives forever?
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 6, 2020:
the fire is surely not literal, and Adam *became* a soul, *No one has ever gone up to heaven,*
DenoPenno comments on Aug 5, 2020:
The big questions are how does a fire burn forever and how do you have a soul that lives forever?
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 6, 2020:
the fire is surely not literal, and Adam *became* a soul, *No one has ever gone up to heaven,*
Wow, apparently Jesus was a holy terror growing up! How many time-outs did Mary and Joseph give him?
Redeemed comments on Aug 3, 2020:
I understand you guys have a lot of questions and you should, I implore that and it makes perfect sense, but many if not all of you are doing what you claim followers of god do without realising it; you request evidence then ‘theorise’ claims and turn them into fact based off of your own ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 4, 2020:
@Redeemed ha surely bc "Yah condones slavery, Yah demands slaughter and genocide, Yah suggests that women are chattel," all the goto ignorances of a literal reader imo
Redeemed comments on Aug 3, 2020:
I understand you guys have a lot of questions and you should, I implore that and it makes perfect sense, but many if not all of you are doing what you claim followers of god do without realising it; you request evidence then ‘theorise’ claims and turn them into fact based off of your own ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 4, 2020:
@Redeemed ha surely bc "Yah condones slavery, Yah demands slaughter and genocide, Yah suggests that women are chattel," all the goto ignorances of a literal reader imo
Wow, apparently Jesus was a holy terror growing up! How many time-outs did Mary and Joseph give him?
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 2, 2020:
imo i wouldnt be falling into the trap of believers, caught up in their own imaginations? Ppl who seek to go to heaven after they have died, and other unbiblical beliefs?
*No son of man may die for another's sins
No one has ever gone up to heaven
Your bargain with the grave will be annulled*
i ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 4, 2020:
@altschmerz ah well you say "contradicts" but i think most/all of them have solutions, post any you think are unsolvable if you like. The outright lies though, these im finding more surprising, maybe bc i just found that site
bbyrd009 comments on Aug 2, 2020:
imo i wouldnt be falling into the trap of believers, caught up in their own imaginations? Ppl who seek to go to heaven after they have died, and other unbiblical beliefs?
*No son of man may die for another's sins
No one has ever gone up to heaven
Your bargain with the grave will be annulled*
i ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 4, 2020:
@altschmerz ah well you say "contradicts" but i think most/all of them have solutions, post any you think are unsolvable if you like. The outright lies though, these im finding more surprising, maybe bc i just found that site
Wow, apparently Jesus was a holy terror growing up! How many time-outs did Mary and Joseph give him?
Unpretentious comments on Aug 2, 2020:
The truth about the historical Jesus of Nazareth (if there was such a person) is lost in antiquity. The story about him cursing the fig tree (which subsequently died) was considered canon, and is included in the Bible (Matthew 21 - 19, Mark 11 - 12 to 14). Apparently he did this because he was ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 4, 2020:
@Unpretentious they smell like rainbows i guess :)
and @ "boring," i would agree, when read literally, yes
Unpretentious comments on Aug 2, 2020:
The truth about the historical Jesus of Nazareth (if there was such a person) is lost in antiquity. The story about him cursing the fig tree (which subsequently died) was considered canon, and is included in the Bible (Matthew 21 - 19, Mark 11 - 12 to 14). Apparently he did this because he was ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 4, 2020:
@Unpretentious they smell like rainbows i guess :)
and @ "boring," i would agree, when read literally, yes
Wow, apparently Jesus was a holy terror growing up! How many time-outs did Mary and Joseph give him?
Unpretentious comments on Aug 2, 2020:
The truth about the historical Jesus of Nazareth (if there was such a person) is lost in antiquity. The story about him cursing the fig tree (which subsequently died) was considered canon, and is included in the Bible (Matthew 21 - 19, Mark 11 - 12 to 14). Apparently he did this because he was ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 2, 2020:
well no offense ok but there is another way to read that stuff, a non religious way even
Unpretentious comments on Aug 2, 2020:
The truth about the historical Jesus of Nazareth (if there was such a person) is lost in antiquity. The story about him cursing the fig tree (which subsequently died) was considered canon, and is included in the Bible (Matthew 21 - 19, Mark 11 - 12 to 14). Apparently he did this because he was ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 2, 2020:
well no offense ok but there is another way to read that stuff, a non religious way even
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU GATHER, BUT WHAT YOU SCATTER
A great story and well worth the read!! (sent ...
Mcflewster comments on Jul 25, 2020:
We need more stories to compete with you-know-who.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 1, 2020:
@Mcflewster ha well i dont agree with everything the guy says anyway ok, but "science always proves wrong, and never right" is pretty much an axiom i think? Not a bad thing at all imo
Mcflewster comments on Jul 25, 2020:
We need more stories to compete with you-know-who.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 1, 2020:
@Mcflewster ha well i dont agree with everything the guy says anyway ok, but "science always proves wrong, and never right" is pretty much an axiom i think? Not a bad thing at all imo
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU GATHER, BUT WHAT YOU SCATTER
A great story and well worth the read!! (sent ...
Mcflewster comments on Jul 25, 2020:
We need more stories to compete with you-know-who.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2020:
@Mcflewster "And science, we must quickly add, is a method that allows broad populations of otherwise unrelated people to form a single mind in understanding creation (John 17:23, Acts 2:46, 2 Corinthians 13:11)..." https://www.abarim-publications.com
"
God, like the psyche, cannot be measured and therefore theology is not the study of God but rather the study of everything: those objects, phenomena and events that surely can be measured and which may or may not arise from a Creator who may or may not exist.
The familiar Greek word θεος (theos) belongs to a family of words that also contains words like theory and theatre. Biblical theology has never had anything to do with religion but has always been the mother of all sciences, the umbrella under which all other scientific disciplines exist, the rainbow that gives all scientific colors their place. Biblical theology has nothing to do with religion but is the Higgs field from which all other sciences derive their mass..."
Mcflewster comments on Jul 25, 2020:
We need more stories to compete with you-know-who.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2020:
@Mcflewster "And science, we must quickly add, is a method that allows broad populations of otherwise unrelated people to form a single mind in understanding creation (John 17:23, Acts 2:46, 2 Corinthians 13:11)..." https://www.abarim-publications.com
"
God, like the psyche, cannot be measured and therefore theology is not the study of God but rather the study of everything: those objects, phenomena and events that surely can be measured and which may or may not arise from a Creator who may or may not exist.
The familiar Greek word θεος (theos) belongs to a family of words that also contains words like theory and theatre. Biblical theology has never had anything to do with religion but has always been the mother of all sciences, the umbrella under which all other scientific disciplines exist, the rainbow that gives all scientific colors their place. Biblical theology has nothing to do with religion but is the Higgs field from which all other sciences derive their mass..."
Can't really argue with that logic.
bbyrd009 comments on Jul 27, 2020:
or just stay the hell out of that soul-sucking store, too
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2020:
@Unpretentious ya i mean why not round down right lol
bbyrd009 comments on Jul 27, 2020:
or just stay the hell out of that soul-sucking store, too
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2020:
@Unpretentious ya i mean why not round down right lol
Jewish doctors in Nazi-occupied Poland stopped an epidemic in its tracks.
bbyrd009 comments on Jul 27, 2020:
um, typhoid is a bacteria?
interesting though, that we call either one an "infection," hmm
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2020:
@altschmerz well, allopaths subscribe to what is i guess known as an Outside model of "disease," although there is prolly a better term for it, but iow "disease comes from being infected," rather than "disease comes from lack of immunity" or whatever. So we then, trusting our doctors, adopt this deficient model, and believe ppl who will not live as long as us--doctors--for our health advice? "dead doctors dont lie" eli wallach, i think is his name.
but there are differences in viruses and bacteria, although i guess some similarities too, but i dont think one can become immune to typhoid--as the article outlines, typhoid was controlled by better practices, yeh?
bbyrd009 comments on Jul 27, 2020:
um, typhoid is a bacteria?
interesting though, that we call either one an "infection," hmm
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2020:
@altschmerz well, allopaths subscribe to what is i guess known as an Outside model of "disease," although there is prolly a better term for it, but iow "disease comes from being infected," rather than "disease comes from lack of immunity" or whatever. So we then, trusting our doctors, adopt this deficient model, and believe ppl who will not live as long as us--doctors--for our health advice? "dead doctors dont lie" eli wallach, i think is his name.
but there are differences in viruses and bacteria, although i guess some similarities too, but i dont think one can become immune to typhoid--as the article outlines, typhoid was controlled by better practices, yeh?
Man would indeeded be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of ...
brentan comments on Jul 28, 2020:
It may well be that those who claim that only fear of Hell can stop sin are the type who it it really applies to. These might well be people who are very inclined toward sin and this is what restrains them, at least to some extent. Their nature always comes through in the end and it seems the holier...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2020:
the Bible is pretty clear that it is not the well who need a "physician," but the sick, yes. Of course "the blind" misinterpret that, but meh
brentan comments on Jul 28, 2020:
It may well be that those who claim that only fear of Hell can stop sin are the type who it it really applies to. These might well be people who are very inclined toward sin and this is what restrains them, at least to some extent. Their nature always comes through in the end and it seems the holier...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2020:
the Bible is pretty clear that it is not the well who need a "physician," but the sick, yes. Of course "the blind" misinterpret that, but meh
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU GATHER, BUT WHAT YOU SCATTER
A great story and well worth the read!! (sent ...
Mcflewster comments on Jul 25, 2020:
We need more stories to compete with you-know-who.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 27, 2020:
@Mcflewster hmm, dunno about heartwarming, but heard the one about Cassini--whom we name shit after, right--and his colossal blinder viz the orbit of Io, i think it was?
""In 1676 an anomaly in the orbit of Io, Jupiter's innermost moon, led the astronomer Ole Roemer to make a very specific prediction. Io would appear from behind Jupiter at 5:37 pm on November 9, 1676, he said--and that would prove light travels with a finite speed. Roemer's mentor, Jean-Dominique Cassini, head of the Paris Observatory, rubbished the idea; light spread instantaneously, he said. His beliefs () led him to a different prediction. According to Cassini, it would be 5:27 when Io appeared.
Io appeared at 5:37 and 49 seconds. On hearing of this, Cassini announced that the facts fit with the story he had presented (faith). Although Cassini had made his (erroneous) prediction at a public gathering of scientists, not one of them demurred when he denied it; they all backed him up. Roemer had to wait fifty years to be vindicated; only after Cassini had died did scientists accept that the speed of light was finite."
https://books.google.com/books?id=oP4AU5ACcU0C&pg=PA204=PA204&dq=In+1676+an+anomaly+in+the+orbit+of+Io,+Jupiter%27s+innermost+moon,=bl=5Y-jeFwhU-=EBRVx6_x_hQeRS0OzGmbD34Pw1M&hl=en&sa=X=0ahUKEwjm1d2xucfTAhWMNSYKHeuDCx0Q6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=In%201676%20an%20anomaly%20in%20the%20orbit%20of%20Io%2C%20Jupiter's%20innermost%20moon%2C&f=false
so the lesson maybe is that scientists can be just as religious as believers. or something.
Mcflewster comments on Jul 25, 2020:
We need more stories to compete with you-know-who.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 27, 2020:
@Mcflewster hmm, dunno about heartwarming, but heard the one about Cassini--whom we name shit after, right--and his colossal blinder viz the orbit of Io, i think it was?
""In 1676 an anomaly in the orbit of Io, Jupiter's innermost moon, led the astronomer Ole Roemer to make a very specific prediction. Io would appear from behind Jupiter at 5:37 pm on November 9, 1676, he said--and that would prove light travels with a finite speed. Roemer's mentor, Jean-Dominique Cassini, head of the Paris Observatory, rubbished the idea; light spread instantaneously, he said. His beliefs () led him to a different prediction. According to Cassini, it would be 5:27 when Io appeared.
Io appeared at 5:37 and 49 seconds. On hearing of this, Cassini announced that the facts fit with the story he had presented (faith). Although Cassini had made his (erroneous) prediction at a public gathering of scientists, not one of them demurred when he denied it; they all backed him up. Roemer had to wait fifty years to be vindicated; only after Cassini had died did scientists accept that the speed of light was finite."
https://books.google.com/books?id=oP4AU5ACcU0C&pg=PA204=PA204&dq=In+1676+an+anomaly+in+the+orbit+of+Io,+Jupiter%27s+innermost+moon,=bl=5Y-jeFwhU-=EBRVx6_x_hQeRS0OzGmbD34Pw1M&hl=en&sa=X=0ahUKEwjm1d2xucfTAhWMNSYKHeuDCx0Q6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=In%201676%20an%20anomaly%20in%20the%20orbit%20of%20Io%2C%20Jupiter's%20innermost%20moon%2C&f=false
so the lesson maybe is that scientists can be just as religious as believers. or something.
IT'S NOT WHAT YOU GATHER, BUT WHAT YOU SCATTER
A great story and well worth the read!! (sent ...
Mcflewster comments on Jul 25, 2020:
We need more stories to compete with you-know-who.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 25, 2020:
ha wadr the Bible is full of them, and believers are the most roundly vilified in Scripture (*you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then turn them into twice the sons of hell you are*), the NT is even the record of the *failure* of a Theocracy?
so dont get me wrong ok, i get why you say that, but i suggest that we have been fooled :)
Mcflewster comments on Jul 25, 2020:
We need more stories to compete with you-know-who.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 25, 2020:
ha wadr the Bible is full of them, and believers are the most roundly vilified in Scripture (*you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then turn them into twice the sons of hell you are*), the NT is even the record of the *failure* of a Theocracy?
so dont get me wrong ok, i get why you say that, but i suggest that we have been fooled :)
Did Mary have an affair?
Deb57 comments on Jul 23, 2020:
Was Mary even real?
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 24, 2020:
at the very least we should prolly contemplate how "the virgin" in "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood back then i guess. But also searching the etymology of "Mary" makes some interesting points imo.
Deb57 comments on Jul 23, 2020:
Was Mary even real?
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 24, 2020:
at the very least we should prolly contemplate how "the virgin" in "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood back then i guess. But also searching the etymology of "Mary" makes some interesting points imo.
Did Mary have an affair?
Justme43 comments on Jul 23, 2020:
Matthew 1:18 says Jesus was NOT the son of God (the god head)
"Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise:
When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph,
before they came together,
she was found with child of the "Holy Spirit"
I've asked several of my christian friends about this, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 24, 2020:
ok, so fwiw *No son of man may die for another's sins, No one has ever gone up to heaven,* these are in there too ok guys
Justme43 comments on Jul 23, 2020:
Matthew 1:18 says Jesus was NOT the son of God (the god head)
"Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise:
When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph,
before they came together,
she was found with child of the "Holy Spirit"
I've asked several of my christian friends about this, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 24, 2020:
ok, so fwiw *No son of man may die for another's sins, No one has ever gone up to heaven,* these are in there too ok guys
Did Mary have an affair?
Justme43 comments on Jul 23, 2020:
Matthew 1:18 says Jesus was NOT the son of God (the god head)
"Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise:
When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph,
before they came together,
she was found with child of the "Holy Spirit"
I've asked several of my christian friends about this, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 24, 2020:
@Justme43 narf on the above, and i sure wouldnt be going to the blind (leading the blind) for any answers about the Bible :)
wouldnt the child of Spirit be spirit? *I said "you are elohim"* is Yah speaking about *you*, after all?
Justme43 comments on Jul 23, 2020:
Matthew 1:18 says Jesus was NOT the son of God (the god head)
"Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise:
When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph,
before they came together,
she was found with child of the "Holy Spirit"
I've asked several of my christian friends about this, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 24, 2020:
@Justme43 narf on the above, and i sure wouldnt be going to the blind (leading the blind) for any answers about the Bible :)
wouldnt the child of Spirit be spirit? *I said "you are elohim"* is Yah speaking about *you*, after all?
Did Mary have an affair?
Donto101 comments on Jul 24, 2020:
I haven’t even seen evidence that she was a real person. So I can’t even answer
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 24, 2020:
i suggest that the Bible even supplies quite a bit of circumstantial evidence that she was not a real person, and was never meant to be taken literally, except perhaps by...those who are "ill" in a certain kind of way, let's say, *And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick."*
Donto101 comments on Jul 24, 2020:
I haven’t even seen evidence that she was a real person. So I can’t even answer
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 24, 2020:
i suggest that the Bible even supplies quite a bit of circumstantial evidence that she was not a real person, and was never meant to be taken literally, except perhaps by...those who are "ill" in a certain kind of way, let's say, *And Jesus answered them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick."*
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