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With reference to "god's plan" and why god would do (or not do) certain things, or allow (or not ...
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
a couple thought questions, that you might relate to yours:
why could a prepubescent teen declare "i hate you" to their parents, the only two ppl supporting them? Arent the decisions of the parents "logical?"
Which of the Decalogue do you have issues following? I guess like at least 5 of these ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 30, 2019:
@Omnedon but back to the kids saying "i hate you" thing, bc they are "suffering" iow...i know this sounds weird, but i wonder if in some way even starving to death is irrelevant? Everything dies some kinda "horrible" way mostly anyway, yeh?
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
a couple thought questions, that you might relate to yours:
why could a prepubescent teen declare "i hate you" to their parents, the only two ppl supporting them? Arent the decisions of the parents "logical?"
Which of the Decalogue do you have issues following? I guess like at least 5 of these ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 30, 2019:
@Omnedon but back to the kids saying "i hate you" thing, bc they are "suffering" iow...i know this sounds weird, but i wonder if in some way even starving to death is irrelevant? Everything dies some kinda "horrible" way mostly anyway, yeh?
With reference to "god's plan" and why god would do (or not do) certain things, or allow (or not ...
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
a couple thought questions, that you might relate to yours:
why could a prepubescent teen declare "i hate you" to their parents, the only two ppl supporting them? Arent the decisions of the parents "logical?"
Which of the Decalogue do you have issues following? I guess like at least 5 of these ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 30, 2019:
@Omnedon "What theory are you talking about? How is this relevant?" sorry, just too hard to hold a decent convo here, wasnt that important anyway prolly.
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
a couple thought questions, that you might relate to yours:
why could a prepubescent teen declare "i hate you" to their parents, the only two ppl supporting them? Arent the decisions of the parents "logical?"
Which of the Decalogue do you have issues following? I guess like at least 5 of these ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 30, 2019:
@Omnedon "What theory are you talking about? How is this relevant?" sorry, just too hard to hold a decent convo here, wasnt that important anyway prolly.
With reference to "god's plan" and why god would do (or not do) certain things, or allow (or not ...
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
a couple thought questions, that you might relate to yours:
why could a prepubescent teen declare "i hate you" to their parents, the only two ppl supporting them? Arent the decisions of the parents "logical?"
Which of the Decalogue do you have issues following? I guess like at least 5 of these ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 30, 2019:
@Omnedon "Nevertheless there is still great suffering in the world. How do you think it would feel to starve to death? Would the concept of perception of entropy enter your mind?" ha prolly not, good point. And as a former believer i used to hold that suffering was caused by our selfish actions, but i guess all elephants die of starvation, when their molars get ground away finally? Someone will say thats bc we ruined their habitat, and natural diet though i guess, dunno. I sure dont get it either bro
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
a couple thought questions, that you might relate to yours:
why could a prepubescent teen declare "i hate you" to their parents, the only two ppl supporting them? Arent the decisions of the parents "logical?"
Which of the Decalogue do you have issues following? I guess like at least 5 of these ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 30, 2019:
@Omnedon "Nevertheless there is still great suffering in the world. How do you think it would feel to starve to death? Would the concept of perception of entropy enter your mind?" ha prolly not, good point. And as a former believer i used to hold that suffering was caused by our selfish actions, but i guess all elephants die of starvation, when their molars get ground away finally? Someone will say thats bc we ruined their habitat, and natural diet though i guess, dunno. I sure dont get it either bro
With reference to "god's plan" and why god would do (or not do) certain things, or allow (or not ...
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible." SClemens
so dont get me wrong ok, i detest religious ppl almost as much as Yah does :)
imo find the Jesus Who appropriated all of the Caesar's titles, "son of God, Messiah," etcetc, with two middle fingers turned alla way up at the man! ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 28, 2019:
@Omnedon *the heir is under servants until he inherits, even though he is lord of all*
*No Son of Man may die for another's sins*
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
"The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible." SClemens
so dont get me wrong ok, i detest religious ppl almost as much as Yah does :)
imo find the Jesus Who appropriated all of the Caesar's titles, "son of God, Messiah," etcetc, with two middle fingers turned alla way up at the man! ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 28, 2019:
@Omnedon *the heir is under servants until he inherits, even though he is lord of all*
*No Son of Man may die for another's sins*
With reference to "god's plan" and why god would do (or not do) certain things, or allow (or not ...
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
a couple thought questions, that you might relate to yours:
why could a prepubescent teen declare "i hate you" to their parents, the only two ppl supporting them? Arent the decisions of the parents "logical?"
Which of the Decalogue do you have issues following? I guess like at least 5 of these ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 28, 2019:
@Omnedon "I'm not sure what you're asking here... Naturally people don't always act logically. We are emotional beings. We make irrational decisions all the time." ergo so much for that theory then, right?
bbyrd009 comments on Nov 21, 2019:
a couple thought questions, that you might relate to yours:
why could a prepubescent teen declare "i hate you" to their parents, the only two ppl supporting them? Arent the decisions of the parents "logical?"
Which of the Decalogue do you have issues following? I guess like at least 5 of these ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 28, 2019:
@Omnedon "I'm not sure what you're asking here... Naturally people don't always act logically. We are emotional beings. We make irrational decisions all the time." ergo so much for that theory then, right?
This is that Monty Python Medieval Logic.
Sofabeast comments on Nov 11, 2019:
If she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood and therefore, A WITCH!
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 13, 2019:
ezackly
Sofabeast comments on Nov 11, 2019:
If she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood and therefore, A WITCH!
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 13, 2019:
ezackly
I just started going to meetings (12 step recovery) and the higher power thing is kinda jamming me ...
dahermit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I attended Al-anon meetings as an atheist and told them that I was not a believer. They told me that my "higher power" could just be the group. Nevertheless, they always recited "The Lord's Prayer" at the conclusion of the meeting, which I took to be disingenuous. My "higher power" is ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 12, 2019:
@dahermit wadr my citation is "The Hidden Messages in Water?"
dahermit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I attended Al-anon meetings as an atheist and told them that I was not a believer. They told me that my "higher power" could just be the group. Nevertheless, they always recited "The Lord's Prayer" at the conclusion of the meeting, which I took to be disingenuous. My "higher power" is ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 12, 2019:
@dahermit wadr my citation is "The Hidden Messages in Water?"
I just started going to meetings (12 step recovery) and the higher power thing is kinda jamming me ...
dahermit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I attended Al-anon meetings as an atheist and told them that I was not a believer. They told me that my "higher power" could just be the group. Nevertheless, they always recited "The Lord's Prayer" at the conclusion of the meeting, which I took to be disingenuous. My "higher power" is ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 10, 2019:
@dahermit i was a bit skeptical myself, but the documentation is in the book. I didnt follow up on it, but it was apparently a pretty rigidly controlled experiment, and the guy is pretty famous in certain circles. If you develop a refute i would like to hear it!
dahermit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I attended Al-anon meetings as an atheist and told them that I was not a believer. They told me that my "higher power" could just be the group. Nevertheless, they always recited "The Lord's Prayer" at the conclusion of the meeting, which I took to be disingenuous. My "higher power" is ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 10, 2019:
@dahermit i was a bit skeptical myself, but the documentation is in the book. I didnt follow up on it, but it was apparently a pretty rigidly controlled experiment, and the guy is pretty famous in certain circles. If you develop a refute i would like to hear it!
I just started going to meetings (12 step recovery) and the higher power thing is kinda jamming me ...
dahermit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I attended Al-anon meetings as an atheist and told them that I was not a believer. They told me that my "higher power" could just be the group. Nevertheless, they always recited "The Lord's Prayer" at the conclusion of the meeting, which I took to be disingenuous. My "higher power" is ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 7, 2019:
fwiw "Lord" is an English serf-holder, and imo at least a terrible xlation, straight from Queen James
dahermit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I attended Al-anon meetings as an atheist and told them that I was not a believer. They told me that my "higher power" could just be the group. Nevertheless, they always recited "The Lord's Prayer" at the conclusion of the meeting, which I took to be disingenuous. My "higher power" is ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 7, 2019:
fwiw "Lord" is an English serf-holder, and imo at least a terrible xlation, straight from Queen James
I just started going to meetings (12 step recovery) and the higher power thing is kinda jamming me ...
Larry-new comments on Oct 24, 2019:
Not having an addiction that I sought treatment for, I'm mindful of my ignorance, but here goes, anyway:
I see the *higher power* as a separation from self and a transferrence of the burden onto something else, which we then become addicted to.
Self is such a convoluted mixed bag that we ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 7, 2019:
ha, love it bro. We forget that we formed our own "selves" at about 1.5 years or so--which can be recalled btw--and that our definition of our "self" would not match anyone elses i guess
Larry-new comments on Oct 24, 2019:
Not having an addiction that I sought treatment for, I'm mindful of my ignorance, but here goes, anyway:
I see the *higher power* as a separation from self and a transferrence of the burden onto something else, which we then become addicted to.
Self is such a convoluted mixed bag that we ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 7, 2019:
ha, love it bro. We forget that we formed our own "selves" at about 1.5 years or so--which can be recalled btw--and that our definition of our "self" would not match anyone elses i guess
I just started going to meetings (12 step recovery) and the higher power thing is kinda jamming me ...
dahermit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I attended Al-anon meetings as an atheist and told them that I was not a believer. They told me that my "higher power" could just be the group. Nevertheless, they always recited "The Lord's Prayer" at the conclusion of the meeting, which I took to be disingenuous. My "higher power" is ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 7, 2019:
well, so you say, but i suggest that science is currently busy proving your connections to nature, and power over it, and fwiw there are ppl who assert that the Bible should be interpreted in the same context. For the first you might pursue "The Hidden Messages in Water" wherein it ha sbeen scientifically proven that one might manipulate water (clouds) by thinking about them, and for the other you might read this guy, http://www.abarim-publications.com/DictionaryG/g/g-i-n-om-s-k-om.html#.XcQ1q9FOmhA
dahermit comments on Oct 24, 2019:
I attended Al-anon meetings as an atheist and told them that I was not a believer. They told me that my "higher power" could just be the group. Nevertheless, they always recited "The Lord's Prayer" at the conclusion of the meeting, which I took to be disingenuous. My "higher power" is ...
bbyrd009 replies on Nov 7, 2019:
well, so you say, but i suggest that science is currently busy proving your connections to nature, and power over it, and fwiw there are ppl who assert that the Bible should be interpreted in the same context. For the first you might pursue "The Hidden Messages in Water" wherein it ha sbeen scientifically proven that one might manipulate water (clouds) by thinking about them, and for the other you might read this guy, http://www.abarim-publications.com/DictionaryG/g/g-i-n-om-s-k-om.html#.XcQ1q9FOmhA
Pope: indigenous people's feathered headgear no sillier than Vatican hats | Pope Francis | The ...
PolyComrade comments on Oct 9, 2019:
Great another white dude mocking native people cause their culture hasn't been shit on enough yet by us
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 11, 2019:
what?
PolyComrade comments on Oct 9, 2019:
Great another white dude mocking native people cause their culture hasn't been shit on enough yet by us
bbyrd009 replies on Oct 11, 2019:
what?
Define Cult.... Define Religion.... Describe the differences:
Larry-new comments on Aug 8, 2019:
Absolutely no difference, except when believers are talking about the other guy's religion.
What is a weed?
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 8, 2019:
"cultus" used to be the accepted term for any religion, yeh.
Larry-new comments on Aug 8, 2019:
Absolutely no difference, except when believers are talking about the other guy's religion.
What is a weed?
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 8, 2019:
"cultus" used to be the accepted term for any religion, yeh.
The pointlessness of happy-clappy atheism - UnHerd
Heathenman comments on Aug 5, 2019:
People attend a godbot congregations because of their fear of death. They don't attend because of a common failure.
I don't see godbots running around like they see themselves as imperfect beings. I see just the opposite.
F. this article and its author.
Viva Sunday Assembly.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 6, 2019:
you see just the opposite, ergo they are obviously damaged individuals, yes?
Heathenman comments on Aug 5, 2019:
People attend a godbot congregations because of their fear of death. They don't attend because of a common failure.
I don't see godbots running around like they see themselves as imperfect beings. I see just the opposite.
F. this article and its author.
Viva Sunday Assembly.
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 6, 2019:
you see just the opposite, ergo they are obviously damaged individuals, yes?
HOW DO CHRISTIANS EXPLAIN THEIR SUPREME GOD HAVING FLAWED CHARACTER TRAITS LIKE ANGER AND VIOLENCE?
BrentMBA2004 comments on Jul 31, 2019:
God is nothing but a excuse people use to justify whatever BS they are attempting to promulgate/sell. So, god is an expression of the mouthpiece using god. I regularly tell Christians (the most judgemental, opinionated assholes I have ever met) that maybe they should get on the same page before ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 5, 2019:
ha, floss den
BrentMBA2004 comments on Jul 31, 2019:
God is nothing but a excuse people use to justify whatever BS they are attempting to promulgate/sell. So, god is an expression of the mouthpiece using god. I regularly tell Christians (the most judgemental, opinionated assholes I have ever met) that maybe they should get on the same page before ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 5, 2019:
ha, floss den
HOW DO CHRISTIANS EXPLAIN THEIR SUPREME GOD HAVING FLAWED CHARACTER TRAITS LIKE ANGER AND VIOLENCE?
rsabbatini comments on Aug 2, 2019:
The ancient Greeks also had deeply flawed, violent, angry, gods. But greeks accepted this, because they did not think that gods should be perfect, they just controlled the Universe and everything on it. Pure superstition of course,
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 5, 2019:
@rsabbatini to blind ppl anyway, sure. But if you actually ever read the Bible that will surely change, ok
rsabbatini comments on Aug 2, 2019:
The ancient Greeks also had deeply flawed, violent, angry, gods. But greeks accepted this, because they did not think that gods should be perfect, they just controlled the Universe and everything on it. Pure superstition of course,
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 5, 2019:
@rsabbatini to blind ppl anyway, sure. But if you actually ever read the Bible that will surely change, ok
HOW DO CHRISTIANS EXPLAIN THEIR SUPREME GOD HAVING FLAWED CHARACTER TRAITS LIKE ANGER AND VIOLENCE?
ToakReon comments on Aug 3, 2019:
What you are describing is evidence which shows that the god of the bible is incompatable with the 'perfect god' concept that christians claim to believe in.
So either the bible is wrong (and is therefore not valid as a source of 'truth' ), or the christians are wrong. Or both, of course. But ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 5, 2019:
"wisdom is hidden from the wise" maybe?
ToakReon comments on Aug 3, 2019:
What you are describing is evidence which shows that the god of the bible is incompatable with the 'perfect god' concept that christians claim to believe in.
So either the bible is wrong (and is therefore not valid as a source of 'truth' ), or the christians are wrong. Or both, of course. But ...
bbyrd009 replies on Aug 5, 2019:
"wisdom is hidden from the wise" maybe?
Mad at god or don't believe?
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 26, 2019:
To be honest, Iv'e never actually met anyone who disbelieves because they are "mad at god".
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2019:
@TristanNuvo oh, i dunno, maybe :) ppl say all kinda stuff, to make themselves look better or feel better? doesnt mean much imo. Generally speaking, most ppls unqualified statements meant to convey a "truth" are usually conveying a separate truth that they are maybe not aware of? You take them at their word, and i suspect they are mostly hypocrites and full of crap, thats all i guess
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 26, 2019:
To be honest, Iv'e never actually met anyone who disbelieves because they are "mad at god".
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 28, 2019:
@TristanNuvo oh, i dunno, maybe :) ppl say all kinda stuff, to make themselves look better or feel better? doesnt mean much imo. Generally speaking, most ppls unqualified statements meant to convey a "truth" are usually conveying a separate truth that they are maybe not aware of? You take them at their word, and i suspect they are mostly hypocrites and full of crap, thats all i guess
Mad at god or don't believe?
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 26, 2019:
To be honest, Iv'e never actually met anyone who disbelieves because they are "mad at god".
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 27, 2019:
and may you always believe everything everyone tells you, all the time
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 26, 2019:
To be honest, Iv'e never actually met anyone who disbelieves because they are "mad at god".
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 27, 2019:
and may you always believe everything everyone tells you, all the time
I have a question for the people that are 100% certain that no gods exist. How are you THAT certain?
Jagnostic comments on Jul 24, 2019:
Everything has a crack in it. That’s how the light gets in. - Leonard Cohen
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
awesome, ty
Jagnostic comments on Jul 24, 2019:
Everything has a crack in it. That’s how the light gets in. - Leonard Cohen
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
awesome, ty
I have a question for the people that are 100% certain that no gods exist. How are you THAT certain?
APaleBlueDot comments on Jul 25, 2019:
You’re right. A negative is pretty much unprovable. And, I am a person quite rooted in hard science. At some point you have to collect your findings (complete or incomplete) draw conclusions and write the paper. I don’t need to await additional evidence, as every bit of evidence that has ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
so you admit you cannot know right before you insist that you know?
APaleBlueDot comments on Jul 25, 2019:
You’re right. A negative is pretty much unprovable. And, I am a person quite rooted in hard science. At some point you have to collect your findings (complete or incomplete) draw conclusions and write the paper. I don’t need to await additional evidence, as every bit of evidence that has ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
so you admit you cannot know right before you insist that you know?
I have a question for the people that are 100% certain that no gods exist. How are you THAT certain?
GROG comments on Jul 25, 2019:
This Q is for those of 100% disbelief and why... Many people find it difficult to say 100%. I think they fear bad karma, for we are a suspicious lot. I'm 100% sure that the supernatural and all the immaterial entities that ever dwelled therein, is a mental construct of the human mind. Early humans...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
this is why *cross the Sea of Reeds* and the whole Exodus mythology, almost surely. What we maybe dont realize at our remove is that the jealous keepers of knowledge were "priests," the guys who knew how to make Bronze, hence "Bronze Age Collapse" which also no one knows anything about. The secret to making bronze became irrelevant overnight, bc Iron.
GROG comments on Jul 25, 2019:
This Q is for those of 100% disbelief and why... Many people find it difficult to say 100%. I think they fear bad karma, for we are a suspicious lot. I'm 100% sure that the supernatural and all the immaterial entities that ever dwelled therein, is a mental construct of the human mind. Early humans...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
this is why *cross the Sea of Reeds* and the whole Exodus mythology, almost surely. What we maybe dont realize at our remove is that the jealous keepers of knowledge were "priests," the guys who knew how to make Bronze, hence "Bronze Age Collapse" which also no one knows anything about. The secret to making bronze became irrelevant overnight, bc Iron.
Mad at god or don't believe?
Paul_Clamberer comments on Jul 26, 2019:
I played your game but can't see why you would ask such a question. Surely the results must be a foregone conclusion on a site such as this?
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@Ms_McSteven man, i dont even agree with his belief here, and i gotta tell ya seems to me like he is the one getting attacked and belittled first, no offense.
Paul_Clamberer comments on Jul 26, 2019:
I played your game but can't see why you would ask such a question. Surely the results must be a foregone conclusion on a site such as this?
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@Ms_McSteven man, i dont even agree with his belief here, and i gotta tell ya seems to me like he is the one getting attacked and belittled first, no offense.
Mad at god or don't believe?
Byrd comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Oh golly I answered this as if it were an actual question first before reading this person's replies to several of our comments. I see now the error of my ways, this is just one of those thinly veiled already decided in the posters mind sort of questions, which would mean it isn't really a question ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
ha, priceless.
Byrd comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Oh golly I answered this as if it were an actual question first before reading this person's replies to several of our comments. I see now the error of my ways, this is just one of those thinly veiled already decided in the posters mind sort of questions, which would mean it isn't really a question ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
ha, priceless.
Mad at god or don't believe?
DaveMania comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Just never, ever believed. It made no sense to five-year-old me, and all the rituals creeped me out so I never gave it any further consideration.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
*what* ("the fuck" implied, imo) *did you go out into the wilderness to see?*
DaveMania comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Just never, ever believed. It made no sense to five-year-old me, and all the rituals creeped me out so I never gave it any further consideration.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
*what* ("the fuck" implied, imo) *did you go out into the wilderness to see?*
Mad at god or don't believe?
Wolfbat comments on Jul 26, 2019:
How can you be mad at something that does not exist ? Could be mad at the silly sods that shove religious nonsense down your throat.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@lerlo noting the repeated *insistence* that God does not exist yet? Fwiw the relationship of Atheists to Fundamentals has been well documented...ah,ipad, cant import Gsearches, but whole books on the subject.
Wolfbat comments on Jul 26, 2019:
How can you be mad at something that does not exist ? Could be mad at the silly sods that shove religious nonsense down your throat.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@lerlo noting the repeated *insistence* that God does not exist yet? Fwiw the relationship of Atheists to Fundamentals has been well documented...ah,ipad, cant import Gsearches, but whole books on the subject.
Mad at god or don't believe?
Hebert54 comments on Jul 26, 2019:
How can you be mad at god ? A non existent entity. You don’t make any sense.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
i'm kinda mad at God this morning, fwiw, but wadr you speak as if you know, when of course you cannot possibly know, and God has made no claims to "existence: having objective reality or being" that i am aware of anyway, so might be a short convo lol
Hebert54 comments on Jul 26, 2019:
How can you be mad at god ? A non existent entity. You don’t make any sense.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
i'm kinda mad at God this morning, fwiw, but wadr you speak as if you know, when of course you cannot possibly know, and God has made no claims to "existence: having objective reality or being" that i am aware of anyway, so might be a short convo lol
Mad at god or don't believe?
Paul_Clamberer comments on Jul 26, 2019:
I played your game but can't see why you would ask such a question. Surely the results must be a foregone conclusion on a site such as this?
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@Ms_McSteven before it "went away?" sorry? Did you delete it? Could i ask why? ty
Paul_Clamberer comments on Jul 26, 2019:
I played your game but can't see why you would ask such a question. Surely the results must be a foregone conclusion on a site such as this?
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@Ms_McSteven before it "went away?" sorry? Did you delete it? Could i ask why? ty
Mad at god or don't believe?
gigihein comments on Jul 26, 2019:
The existence or non- existence of a god/gods is irrelevant to me. The disregard for separation of church and state in government are topics relevant.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
politics and religion are necessary to each other, vital even i guess. Obviously the "existence" or non- of a God or gods is *paramount* to your existence lol, regardless of your feelings on the matter
gigihein comments on Jul 26, 2019:
The existence or non- existence of a god/gods is irrelevant to me. The disregard for separation of church and state in government are topics relevant.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
politics and religion are necessary to each other, vital even i guess. Obviously the "existence" or non- of a God or gods is *paramount* to your existence lol, regardless of your feelings on the matter
Mad at god or don't believe?
BD66 comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Looks like 98.9 of us don't believe, and 1.1% are mad at the imaginary man in the sky.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
who is "us" btw. I mean, no offense, but see how you are positing an "us" that favors *your* opinion? When the actual #s are much closer to the ezack opposite?
BD66 comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Looks like 98.9 of us don't believe, and 1.1% are mad at the imaginary man in the sky.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
who is "us" btw. I mean, no offense, but see how you are positing an "us" that favors *your* opinion? When the actual #s are much closer to the ezack opposite?
Mad at god or don't believe?
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 26, 2019:
To be honest, Iv'e never actually met anyone who disbelieves because they are "mad at god".
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
youve never met anyone willing to *admit* that you mean yeh?
TristanNuvo comments on Jul 26, 2019:
To be honest, Iv'e never actually met anyone who disbelieves because they are "mad at god".
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
youve never met anyone willing to *admit* that you mean yeh?
Mad at god or don't believe?
BD66 comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Looks like 98.9 of us don't believe, and 1.1% are mad at the imaginary man in the sky.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
but really how often are we honest with ourselves when it puts us in a less than wonderful light? Of course someone who is "mad at God" and suffering from the effects of a religion in their nation/community might rather say "there is no God," yeh? "Imaginary Man in the Sky" see, you are agreeing with the Bible even, *Galileans* (="jerk-offs," basically, "circle-jerks"), *why do you stand there looking up into the sky?*
BD66 comments on Jul 26, 2019:
Looks like 98.9 of us don't believe, and 1.1% are mad at the imaginary man in the sky.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
but really how often are we honest with ourselves when it puts us in a less than wonderful light? Of course someone who is "mad at God" and suffering from the effects of a religion in their nation/community might rather say "there is no God," yeh? "Imaginary Man in the Sky" see, you are agreeing with the Bible even, *Galileans* (="jerk-offs," basically, "circle-jerks"), *why do you stand there looking up into the sky?*
Mad at god or don't believe?
Marcie1974 comments on Jul 25, 2019:
Hard to be mad at something that doesn’t exist
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@Marcie1974 oh, my apologies, i'm from the deep south, bad habit with the sweetie thing i guess. God makes no claims of "existence: having objective reality or being" anywhere, that i am aware of? Allah doesnt, and YHWH doesnt, and Krishna doesnt?
Marcie1974 comments on Jul 25, 2019:
Hard to be mad at something that doesn’t exist
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@Marcie1974 oh, my apologies, i'm from the deep south, bad habit with the sweetie thing i guess. God makes no claims of "existence: having objective reality or being" anywhere, that i am aware of? Allah doesnt, and YHWH doesnt, and Krishna doesnt?
Mad at god or don't believe?
mordant comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.
It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.
It IS ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@mordant "It all gets codified into tribal dogmas (religion) in the end. Whether it's the Holy Roman Church or Bedside Baptist or just little old you telling people what's true and what's false, it's all the same." well, it does if you do that, yes. But now see what you have said becomes the reasoning for why the truth must be hidden: nations of ppl grow to a point where they demand a king, ppl want to be led, "sheep" iow, and so if one wants to "believe" that they might say some Magic Words in a mortgaged building they call "church" to a guy who has made a deal with the king (501, 6, c3, 6, 1023, 6) and then they will go up to heaven after they have died (mithraism), they can certainly do that, but they will be made to be hypocrites by their own Manual, see. *Leave the camp, come out of her, my people, scapegoat,* it's all in There ok, just in code. "*Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.*" see, just what you want too right, if you focus on the end, practical part and ignore the big, flowery, meaningless part at the beginning?
Iow you are exactly correct, most ppl will do what you say, and you now have a means for IDing those types and being advised accordingly? Bc trust me the authors of the Bible consider them idiots. Anarchy is not Chaos.
mordant comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.
It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.
It IS ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@mordant "It all gets codified into tribal dogmas (religion) in the end. Whether it's the Holy Roman Church or Bedside Baptist or just little old you telling people what's true and what's false, it's all the same." well, it does if you do that, yes. But now see what you have said becomes the reasoning for why the truth must be hidden: nations of ppl grow to a point where they demand a king, ppl want to be led, "sheep" iow, and so if one wants to "believe" that they might say some Magic Words in a mortgaged building they call "church" to a guy who has made a deal with the king (501, 6, c3, 6, 1023, 6) and then they will go up to heaven after they have died (mithraism), they can certainly do that, but they will be made to be hypocrites by their own Manual, see. *Leave the camp, come out of her, my people, scapegoat,* it's all in There ok, just in code. "*Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.*" see, just what you want too right, if you focus on the end, practical part and ignore the big, flowery, meaningless part at the beginning?
Iow you are exactly correct, most ppl will do what you say, and you now have a means for IDing those types and being advised accordingly? Bc trust me the authors of the Bible consider them idiots. Anarchy is not Chaos.
Mad at god or don't believe?
mordant comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.
It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.
It IS ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@mordant "So you're going the tired route of claiming there's a difference between faith / belief and religion." Samaritans were considered evil and not accepted then, but we are told to "go and do likewise." And there is no judgement for beliefs in the Bible, as most believers tacitly demand? Who also conflate faith and beliefs right away, in their efforts to attain heaven after they have died. Yet *no one has ever gone up to heaven,* and *there is only One Immortal*, which no believer will appreciate you Quoting either. *You and your sons will be here with me* is the assurance to believers (who will not accept it) that *all go to the same place.*
We mostly proceed from the pov of the Bible that believers have disseminated, see, and we do not ever hear these parts of the Bible, but when the OT is realized as a record of the *failure* of a religion, and John Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth ("John Doe from out of Nowhere," searchable btw) as two guys sticking two big Middle Fingers straight up in the air at The Man, then wisdom is no longer hidden from the wise. These were not religious or even pious ppl, these were rebels on the run from the law? And religious ppl are "the wise" as far as the Bible is concerned (idiots, iow) *he who says he knows does not yet know*
mordant comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.
It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.
It IS ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@mordant "So you're going the tired route of claiming there's a difference between faith / belief and religion." Samaritans were considered evil and not accepted then, but we are told to "go and do likewise." And there is no judgement for beliefs in the Bible, as most believers tacitly demand? Who also conflate faith and beliefs right away, in their efforts to attain heaven after they have died. Yet *no one has ever gone up to heaven,* and *there is only One Immortal*, which no believer will appreciate you Quoting either. *You and your sons will be here with me* is the assurance to believers (who will not accept it) that *all go to the same place.*
We mostly proceed from the pov of the Bible that believers have disseminated, see, and we do not ever hear these parts of the Bible, but when the OT is realized as a record of the *failure* of a religion, and John Baptist and Jesus of Nazareth ("John Doe from out of Nowhere," searchable btw) as two guys sticking two big Middle Fingers straight up in the air at The Man, then wisdom is no longer hidden from the wise. These were not religious or even pious ppl, these were rebels on the run from the law? And religious ppl are "the wise" as far as the Bible is concerned (idiots, iow) *he who says he knows does not yet know*
Mad at god or don't believe?
mordant comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.
It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.
It IS ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@mordant "Sounds like a pretty strong existence claim right there." at first, yes, but if you read the whole passage and then read our common def of "exist: have objective reality or being," another truth begins to become evident imo. The AM part is almost universally read as like a title, which anywhere else Am would be sufficient for that, and almost never read as EMPHATIC, and so the rest of the passage is discounted and misunderstood. So, and i know this is strange ok, but i believe in God, or Allah, or Krishna, doesnt matter imo as these are strictly concepts, but i do not believe God "exists," nor were the authors nor "God" trying to forward that pov?
The arg being that as soon as one insists upon God's "existence," like "believers" do, one will also manufacture the essences of Existence onto God, Old White Guy in a White Robe and a Big Beard, etc. An interesting corrollary here is that you will never find a "believer" who actually has any "belief" whatsoever in God's existence! They all hold that to be an Absolute Truth, and it cannot even be debated?" At least until they read that passage and some of Job with me, wherein we almost always get to see who Satan really is too :)
mordant comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.
It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.
It IS ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 26, 2019:
@mordant "Sounds like a pretty strong existence claim right there." at first, yes, but if you read the whole passage and then read our common def of "exist: have objective reality or being," another truth begins to become evident imo. The AM part is almost universally read as like a title, which anywhere else Am would be sufficient for that, and almost never read as EMPHATIC, and so the rest of the passage is discounted and misunderstood. So, and i know this is strange ok, but i believe in God, or Allah, or Krishna, doesnt matter imo as these are strictly concepts, but i do not believe God "exists," nor were the authors nor "God" trying to forward that pov?
The arg being that as soon as one insists upon God's "existence," like "believers" do, one will also manufacture the essences of Existence onto God, Old White Guy in a White Robe and a Big Beard, etc. An interesting corrollary here is that you will never find a "believer" who actually has any "belief" whatsoever in God's existence! They all hold that to be an Absolute Truth, and it cannot even be debated?" At least until they read that passage and some of Job with me, wherein we almost always get to see who Satan really is too :)
Mad at god or don't believe?
Marcie1974 comments on Jul 25, 2019:
Hard to be mad at something that doesn’t exist
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 25, 2019:
God never makes the claim of existence according to our definition, not anywhere. Swing anna miss, sweetie.
Marcie1974 comments on Jul 25, 2019:
Hard to be mad at something that doesn’t exist
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 25, 2019:
God never makes the claim of existence according to our definition, not anywhere. Swing anna miss, sweetie.
Mad at god or don't believe?
mordant comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.
It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.
It IS ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 25, 2019:
i hear this "existence" argument a lot, and fwiw YHWH never claims to "exist" anywhere, according to our definition. Religion is roundly and repeatedly condemned in the Bible, and if you were so stupid as to go into religion for a perspective of God wadr that is strictly on you. The OT is a record of the *failure* of religion, yeh?
mordant comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It is not possible to be mad at someone you don't believe exists.
It IS possible to be disappointed with the fact that he doesn't exist, at least until you come to understand that god is not a solution to anything to begin with -- AND the source of a lot of problems in the world.
It IS ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 25, 2019:
i hear this "existence" argument a lot, and fwiw YHWH never claims to "exist" anywhere, according to our definition. Religion is roundly and repeatedly condemned in the Bible, and if you were so stupid as to go into religion for a perspective of God wadr that is strictly on you. The OT is a record of the *failure* of religion, yeh?
Mad at god or don't believe?
Freethinkerr comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It’s not just a god argument. It’s a gods one. No gods, no heavens, no hell.
I can’t speak for everyone but in my personal experience it took a lot of thought to realize there was no “ultimate being” watching me pick my nose.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 25, 2019:
"Who told you that you were naked?" yup
Freethinkerr comments on Jul 25, 2019:
It’s not just a god argument. It’s a gods one. No gods, no heavens, no hell.
I can’t speak for everyone but in my personal experience it took a lot of thought to realize there was no “ultimate being” watching me pick my nose.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 25, 2019:
"Who told you that you were naked?" yup
Does anyone here worry or care about the ripples their actions make, or are you more of a boulder ...
Apunzelle comments on Jul 18, 2019:
What an odd question. Someone who doesn’t care about how their actions impact others would be truly fucked up.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 19, 2019:
yet 3 year olds are not effed up
Apunzelle comments on Jul 18, 2019:
What an odd question. Someone who doesn’t care about how their actions impact others would be truly fucked up.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 19, 2019:
yet 3 year olds are not effed up
Religion is the most hideous invention in the history of Mankind.
Nevermind345 comments on Jul 16, 2019:
Talking Snakes, Walking on Water, Parting the sea, Curing the Blind, Raising the Dead.Virgin Birth, Immaculate Conception, All Fundamentally pounded into your head as soon as you learn to read. Christians, Jews and Muslins all practice along the same path of indoctrination. Reinforced with fear ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 17, 2019:
ha none of those were meant to be taken literally tho. That is "wisdom hidden from the wise"
Nevermind345 comments on Jul 16, 2019:
Talking Snakes, Walking on Water, Parting the sea, Curing the Blind, Raising the Dead.Virgin Birth, Immaculate Conception, All Fundamentally pounded into your head as soon as you learn to read. Christians, Jews and Muslins all practice along the same path of indoctrination. Reinforced with fear ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 17, 2019:
ha none of those were meant to be taken literally tho. That is "wisdom hidden from the wise"
If God is God He is not good
If God is good He is not God
Take the even take the odd
{If God is ...
genessa comments on Jul 14, 2019:
why would you want to alter something you found quotable enough to quote, in order to make it sound more quotable?
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bbyrd009 replies on Jul 14, 2019:
zing, huh? Actually kind of demonstrating the whole principle without realizing it i guess huh? Paradox solved, lol
genessa comments on Jul 14, 2019:
why would you want to alter something you found quotable enough to quote, in order to make it sound more quotable?
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bbyrd009 replies on Jul 14, 2019:
zing, huh? Actually kind of demonstrating the whole principle without realizing it i guess huh? Paradox solved, lol
Ark Encounter founder warns ‘kids of all ages’ that libraries are becoming dangerous - New York ...
Paul4747 comments on Jul 9, 2019:
There are AT LEAST 925,000 species of insects in the world (that's just how many have been discovered). If there's no such thing as evolution, then those have always been around. So that's 925,000 pairs of insects ALONE in a boat 300 cubits x 80 x 40.
There are estimated to be 8.7 MILLION animal...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 13, 2019:
it would maybe be a shame nowdays for someone to read that and realize that it was never meant to be read literally lol
Paul4747 comments on Jul 9, 2019:
There are AT LEAST 925,000 species of insects in the world (that's just how many have been discovered). If there's no such thing as evolution, then those have always been around. So that's 925,000 pairs of insects ALONE in a boat 300 cubits x 80 x 40.
There are estimated to be 8.7 MILLION animal...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 13, 2019:
it would maybe be a shame nowdays for someone to read that and realize that it was never meant to be read literally lol
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 13, 2019:
@K9Kohle789 ah well i didnt mean that i would be denying that, bc i dont know of course, but it is pretty easy to argue that He is still a force, whether He actually ever existed or not? Iow His literal existence is really less important than His message, maybe
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 13, 2019:
@K9Kohle789 ah well i didnt mean that i would be denying that, bc i dont know of course, but it is pretty easy to argue that He is still a force, whether He actually ever existed or not? Iow His literal existence is really less important than His message, maybe
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 1, 2019:
There is so much more to use in an argument vs god/agnostic. It is based on being he may never have even existed. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/
Also placing Jesus above god when god said (according to the mindless writers of the bible which is still ongoing) that's...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@rovingamber well, wadr the meaning of the word has changed somewhat i think from its use in the Bible, *cultus* used to be the completely acceptable way to state ones "school of thought," and was not a slur then. So i agree with you, jim jones bad, sure
K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 1, 2019:
There is so much more to use in an argument vs god/agnostic. It is based on being he may never have even existed. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/
Also placing Jesus above god when god said (according to the mindless writers of the bible which is still ongoing) that's...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@rovingamber well, wadr the meaning of the word has changed somewhat i think from its use in the Bible, *cultus* used to be the completely acceptable way to state ones "school of thought," and was not a slur then. So i agree with you, jim jones bad, sure
The cure for Christianity.
Donna_I comments on Jun 30, 2019:
I wonder how long it stayed there before someone from the store actually read it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@Donna_I plus i think Twain is a lot like Lincoln, to our minds? Wish i knew where that store was, tbh, but the Abarim are working pretty well for me right now anyway i guess. ok peace
Donna_I comments on Jun 30, 2019:
I wonder how long it stayed there before someone from the store actually read it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@Donna_I plus i think Twain is a lot like Lincoln, to our minds? Wish i knew where that store was, tbh, but the Abarim are working pretty well for me right now anyway i guess. ok peace
The cure for Christianity.
Donna_I comments on Jun 30, 2019:
I wonder how long it stayed there before someone from the store actually read it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@Donna_I well i guess anything is possible, but i am pretty sure the Bible and Christianity as we know it have virtually nothing to do with each other, and those ppl are prolly just hip to that. I mean try out the following Bible vv on a Christian lol, lemme know what they say, *"No Son of Man may die for another's sins..., You and your sons will be here with me, No one has ever gone up to heaven..., There is only One Immortal, They read Paul to their destruction,"* etc.
Donna_I comments on Jun 30, 2019:
I wonder how long it stayed there before someone from the store actually read it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 6, 2019:
@Donna_I well i guess anything is possible, but i am pretty sure the Bible and Christianity as we know it have virtually nothing to do with each other, and those ppl are prolly just hip to that. I mean try out the following Bible vv on a Christian lol, lemme know what they say, *"No Son of Man may die for another's sins..., You and your sons will be here with me, No one has ever gone up to heaven..., There is only One Immortal, They read Paul to their destruction,"* etc.
The cure for Christianity.
mojo5501 comments on Jun 30, 2019:
How funny that they didn't realize their blasphemy and the well known skepticism of Mark Twain.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 3, 2019:
I'd reconsider wadr, they knew ok
mojo5501 comments on Jun 30, 2019:
How funny that they didn't realize their blasphemy and the well known skepticism of Mark Twain.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 3, 2019:
I'd reconsider wadr, they knew ok
The cure for Christianity.
Donna_I comments on Jun 30, 2019:
I wonder how long it stayed there before someone from the store actually read it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 3, 2019:
They knew ezackly what they were putting up imo
Donna_I comments on Jun 30, 2019:
I wonder how long it stayed there before someone from the store actually read it.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 3, 2019:
They knew ezackly what they were putting up imo
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
abyers1970 comments on Jun 30, 2019:
Maybe but I’m pretty sure the part where the donkey talks to the man when he’s whipping him in the Old Testament is 100% true
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 3, 2019:
Ha that would never have been taken literally then, we have just forgotten what "donkey" represents, represented then, i guess
abyers1970 comments on Jun 30, 2019:
Maybe but I’m pretty sure the part where the donkey talks to the man when he’s whipping him in the Old Testament is 100% true
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 3, 2019:
Ha that would never have been taken literally then, we have just forgotten what "donkey" represents, represented then, i guess
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 1, 2019:
There is so much more to use in an argument vs god/agnostic. It is based on being he may never have even existed. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/
Also placing Jesus above god when god said (according to the mindless writers of the bible which is still ongoing) that's...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 3, 2019:
@K9Kohle789 Ah well in English anyway, sure. But even the Bible warns about this, "scribes," so just read in the original, from a lexicon? Big diff.
K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 1, 2019:
There is so much more to use in an argument vs god/agnostic. It is based on being he may never have even existed. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/
Also placing Jesus above god when god said (according to the mindless writers of the bible which is still ongoing) that's...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 3, 2019:
@K9Kohle789 Ah well in English anyway, sure. But even the Bible warns about this, "scribes," so just read in the original, from a lexicon? Big diff.
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
Deiter comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: *Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.* Matthew 5:17
Jesus was *not* looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles. In fact, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
@Deiter Ah well takes one to know one i guess eh
Deiter comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: *Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.* Matthew 5:17
Jesus was *not* looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles. In fact, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
@Deiter Ah well takes one to know one i guess eh
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
Deiter comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: *Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.* Matthew 5:17
Jesus was *not* looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles. In fact, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
@Deiter Ha no, i genuinely mean best of luck with that, and the double-down on the durdur, too ok
Deiter comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: *Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.* Matthew 5:17
Jesus was *not* looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles. In fact, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
@Deiter Ha no, i genuinely mean best of luck with that, and the double-down on the durdur, too ok
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
Deiter comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: *Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.* Matthew 5:17
Jesus was *not* looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles. In fact, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
"Jesus was not looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles"
*and not only our sins, but the sins of the whole world*
so, best of luck with that ok
Deiter comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: *Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.* Matthew 5:17
Jesus was *not* looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles. In fact, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
"Jesus was not looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles"
*and not only our sins, but the sins of the whole world*
so, best of luck with that ok
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
Nardi comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Great Scott!! you mean to say its all a bunch of boloney?
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
If you accept the "believer" interp, certainly. So i mean note the progression if you will; "believers are obviously deceived, and believers say _______ is in the Bible, ergo the Bible is deception." ? Ok
Nardi comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Great Scott!! you mean to say its all a bunch of boloney?
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
If you accept the "believer" interp, certainly. So i mean note the progression if you will; "believers are obviously deceived, and believers say _______ is in the Bible, ergo the Bible is deception." ? Ok
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
Deiter comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: *Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.* Matthew 5:17
Jesus was *not* looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles. In fact, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
"I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17"
you say this illustrates some point, but it seems to me you disregard that Jesus broke every, single, one, of the Decalogue at some point?
Also imo the fact that the law of sin and death was a literal thing back then--lying was punishable by death, stoning--is not being taken into account here?
*just as lightning flashes from east to west*
Deiter comments on Jun 29, 2019:
I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: *Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.* Matthew 5:17
Jesus was *not* looking to expand Judaism to incorporate gentiles. In fact, ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
"I often argue that as a typical hard line Jew, Jesus was no reformer. A point well illustrated here: Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17"
you say this illustrates some point, but it seems to me you disregard that Jesus broke every, single, one, of the Decalogue at some point?
Also imo the fact that the law of sin and death was a literal thing back then--lying was punishable by death, stoning--is not being taken into account here?
*just as lightning flashes from east to west*
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 1, 2019:
There is so much more to use in an argument vs god/agnostic. It is based on being he may never have even existed. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/
Also placing Jesus above god when god said (according to the mindless writers of the bible which is still ongoing) that's...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
You accuse the "mindless" writers of the Bible for clarifying that Jesus Cults are bad? I don't get it
K9Kohle789 comments on Jul 1, 2019:
There is so much more to use in an argument vs god/agnostic. It is based on being he may never have even existed. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/did-jesus-exist/
Also placing Jesus above god when god said (according to the mindless writers of the bible which is still ongoing) that's...
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
You accuse the "mindless" writers of the Bible for clarifying that Jesus Cults are bad? I don't get it
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
SKH78 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
True. It is also an ugly religion because it is abusive to women.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
Yet "there are no male or female" as far as the Bible is concerned, hmm
SKH78 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
True. It is also an ugly religion because it is abusive to women.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
Yet "there are no male or female" as far as the Bible is concerned, hmm
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty i would def agree to not be believing anything a believer tells you about the Bible, for sure. But i suggest that we adopt their interpretation as valid, and then go on to discredit the Bible Bc we hate the religion that arises from a poor interp of it; maybe not the best understanding, iow
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jul 1, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty i would def agree to not be believing anything a believer tells you about the Bible, for sure. But i suggest that we adopt their interpretation as valid, and then go on to discredit the Bible Bc we hate the religion that arises from a poor interp of it; maybe not the best understanding, iow
You have left the camp now and in this you do well, a very hard thing.
JimG comments on Jun 28, 2019:
This is gibberish.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 30, 2019:
@JimG "reflect on how Baptising in the Jordan in a theocracy and adopting the titles savior, messiah, son of God from the current Caesar who then ruled them politically--well, barely--amounts to Two Middle Fingers turned all the way up @ The Man, if you will."
"Believers have it all wrong, yes; wisdom is hidden from the wise."
"If you want to plant something in the Earth you are going to have to die, and if you claim to be atheist or agnostic then you should know better than any that you and your sons will be here with me right. You are going to die anyway, iow.
Soon."
"but i guess you can choose how
So here's to your health and happiness!
ha you'll never feel more alive than on the run from the law for a moral act i guess"
the post is sick with them Jim, pick one ok, or keep playing superior, idc. Have a nice day
JimG comments on Jun 28, 2019:
This is gibberish.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 30, 2019:
@JimG "reflect on how Baptising in the Jordan in a theocracy and adopting the titles savior, messiah, son of God from the current Caesar who then ruled them politically--well, barely--amounts to Two Middle Fingers turned all the way up @ The Man, if you will."
"Believers have it all wrong, yes; wisdom is hidden from the wise."
"If you want to plant something in the Earth you are going to have to die, and if you claim to be atheist or agnostic then you should know better than any that you and your sons will be here with me right. You are going to die anyway, iow.
Soon."
"but i guess you can choose how
So here's to your health and happiness!
ha you'll never feel more alive than on the run from the law for a moral act i guess"
the post is sick with them Jim, pick one ok, or keep playing superior, idc. Have a nice day
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 30, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty "more bullshit, about bullshit?"
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 30, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty "more bullshit, about bullshit?"
You have left the camp now and in this you do well, a very hard thing.
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jun 28, 2019:
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bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
I mean we could dance around it some more but essentially you will serve something greater than yourself or not regardless of your position on God or old white men with beards sitting on thrones, i think? I'm not much on small talk i guess lol
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jun 28, 2019:
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bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
I mean we could dance around it some more but essentially you will serve something greater than yourself or not regardless of your position on God or old white men with beards sitting on thrones, i think? I'm not much on small talk i guess lol
As an Atheist who just turned 40 and is single I am now for the first time really grappling with my ...
Ben13 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
I am 28 have one child and don't believe in God yet I struggle with mortality all the time. On one hand I want to die why live when finding purpose can be a challenge on the other I'm a curious person who wishes I could live forever and discover all of life's greatest mysteries.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
Ha an honest confession though, well put imo. If it isn't too personally painful you might reflect on how your wanting to die is really quite similar to a Believer's desire to be "raptured" or whatever? "Everyone, deep in their hearts, is waiting for the end of the world" some Japanese guy
Ben13 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
I am 28 have one child and don't believe in God yet I struggle with mortality all the time. On one hand I want to die why live when finding purpose can be a challenge on the other I'm a curious person who wishes I could live forever and discover all of life's greatest mysteries.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
Ha an honest confession though, well put imo. If it isn't too personally painful you might reflect on how your wanting to die is really quite similar to a Believer's desire to be "raptured" or whatever? "Everyone, deep in their hearts, is waiting for the end of the world" some Japanese guy
As an Atheist who just turned 40 and is single I am now for the first time really grappling with my ...
Rob1948 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Your immortality comes from published words and deeds. Your children only perpetuate your genes... that’s the biological urge to create. God doesn’t offer immortality, (edited to add:) at least not in the corporeal sense.
(So people won’t quibble since believers would claim otherwise.)
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
nice
:)
Rob1948 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Your immortality comes from published words and deeds. Your children only perpetuate your genes... that’s the biological urge to create. God doesn’t offer immortality, (edited to add:) at least not in the corporeal sense.
(So people won’t quibble since believers would claim otherwise.)
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
nice
:)
As an Atheist who just turned 40 and is single I am now for the first time really grappling with my ...
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
There is only One Immortal supposedly anyway, so imo you are in way better shape than most believers i guess? lol. An atheist might be uniquely positioned to break out of the bell curve and plant a spike in the earth, why not? We don't much get to choose how we live, but we do get to choose how we ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@CommonHuman ah, well my meaning was that even a believer can easily read that they are not going anywhere special after they have died, in many places. This realization becomes more, oh, dunno about relevant, but important anyway, as you move into older age i guess. The implications are not so meaningful when we are younger i guess
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
There is only One Immortal supposedly anyway, so imo you are in way better shape than most believers i guess? lol. An atheist might be uniquely positioned to break out of the bell curve and plant a spike in the earth, why not? We don't much get to choose how we live, but we do get to choose how we ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@CommonHuman ah, well my meaning was that even a believer can easily read that they are not going anywhere special after they have died, in many places. This realization becomes more, oh, dunno about relevant, but important anyway, as you move into older age i guess. The implications are not so meaningful when we are younger i guess
You have left the camp now and in this you do well, a very hard thing.
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jun 28, 2019:
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bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
Those you will wish to be one day are risking their lives in schemes of peaceful resistance? Um and you have a pretty mouth? ;)
SeaGreenEyez comments on Jun 28, 2019:
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bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
Those you will wish to be one day are risking their lives in schemes of peaceful resistance? Um and you have a pretty mouth? ;)
You have left the camp now and in this you do well, a very hard thing.
GuitarDoctor comments on Jun 28, 2019:
what is this gibberish and drivel?
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
At the moment imo it is mostly just you preening for some imaginary crowd that prolly thinks you're a git already, ca, but if you want to actually contest anything lemme know ok. I doubt *you'll* get so popular that ppl will want to kill you just for that eh?
GuitarDoctor comments on Jun 28, 2019:
what is this gibberish and drivel?
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
At the moment imo it is mostly just you preening for some imaginary crowd that prolly thinks you're a git already, ca, but if you want to actually contest anything lemme know ok. I doubt *you'll* get so popular that ppl will want to kill you just for that eh?
You have left the camp now and in this you do well, a very hard thing.
bobwjr comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Schizophrenia is serious take your meds
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
Yes ty bob
bobwjr comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Schizophrenia is serious take your meds
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
Yes ty bob
You have left the camp now and in this you do well, a very hard thing.
JimG comments on Jun 28, 2019:
This is gibberish.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
cool, should be easier to refute then right. You are going to die anyway, right? You do really only have respect for those who completely obliterate the bell curve, yes? So what is gibberish then, tell me pls. You gotta know Caesar was already called "savior, messiah, lord" etc right.
What would be *your* reaction to say a Muslim baptizing ppl in the Potomac lol
JimG comments on Jun 28, 2019:
This is gibberish.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
cool, should be easier to refute then right. You are going to die anyway, right? You do really only have respect for those who completely obliterate the bell curve, yes? So what is gibberish then, tell me pls. You gotta know Caesar was already called "savior, messiah, lord" etc right.
What would be *your* reaction to say a Muslim baptizing ppl in the Potomac lol
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@MayQueen ah well I'll have to check it out, she would def be the first to reveal anything concrete there that i am aware of, ty. Brb :)
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@MayQueen ah well I'll have to check it out, she would def be the first to reveal anything concrete there that i am aware of, ty. Brb :)
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty ok, go with that then if you like, seems rather presumptuous to me, like maybe self- serving a little, i mean you're committed enough to comment/rip on others but that's where it ends? ok
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty ok, go with that then if you like, seems rather presumptuous to me, like maybe self- serving a little, i mean you're committed enough to comment/rip on others but that's where it ends? ok
My husband says, google is his god, because it knows everything and always has an answer for his ...
IamNobody comments on Jun 28, 2019:
God??, pfff... who gives a hoot.... Grammar on the other hand.... "who say their agnostic" (their, strike one), "when you say your an agnostic" (your, strike two)..... Uuufff.. almost out !!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@zblaze um, self- respect maybe?
IamNobody comments on Jun 28, 2019:
God??, pfff... who gives a hoot.... Grammar on the other hand.... "who say their agnostic" (their, strike one), "when you say your an agnostic" (your, strike two)..... Uuufff.. almost out !!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 29, 2019:
@zblaze um, self- respect maybe?
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Well so you say, but wadr "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood to be a ref to the Athena wisdom school at the time, and ones "resurrection" is supposed to happen at baptism, but trust me Mithraist Christians are totally ignoring that too. Peace
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Google is sick with it, but here's one https://www.cogwriter.com/christianity-mithraism.htm prolly by some "righteous" religious person still tho i guess, "cog" ya he's a cog alright lol
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Well so you say, but wadr "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood to be a ref to the Athena wisdom school at the time, and ones "resurrection" is supposed to happen at baptism, but trust me Mithraist Christians are totally ignoring that too. Peace
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Google is sick with it, but here's one https://www.cogwriter.com/christianity-mithraism.htm prolly by some "righteous" religious person still tho i guess, "cog" ya he's a cog alright lol
My husband says, google is his god, because it knows everything and always has an answer for his ...
MrDMC comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Thank you for an interesting post. First of all, I probably would argue with your husband about Google. But then that is not the gist of your post.
I have considered myself Agnostic most of my life. I do believe that the term is Greek for, "no knowledge." So an agnostic is drawing no ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@zblaze *"I said 'you are elohim.' "* you, iow. No old white guy with a beard iow.
MrDMC comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Thank you for an interesting post. First of all, I probably would argue with your husband about Google. But then that is not the gist of your post.
I have considered myself Agnostic most of my life. I do believe that the term is Greek for, "no knowledge." So an agnostic is drawing no ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@zblaze *"I said 'you are elohim.' "* you, iow. No old white guy with a beard iow.
My husband says, google is his god, because it knows everything and always has an answer for his ...
IamNobody comments on Jun 28, 2019:
God??, pfff... who gives a hoot.... Grammar on the other hand.... "who say their agnostic" (their, strike one), "when you say your an agnostic" (your, strike two)..... Uuufff.. almost out !!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Debbera you win :)
IamNobody comments on Jun 28, 2019:
God??, pfff... who gives a hoot.... Grammar on the other hand.... "who say their agnostic" (their, strike one), "when you say your an agnostic" (your, strike two)..... Uuufff.. almost out !!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Debbera you win :)
My husband says, google is his god, because it knows everything and always has an answer for his ...
NicoleCadmium comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Children born with cancer, destined to live a few weeks before dying a painful death, are proof enough for me that there is no all seeing, all powerful, benevolent God. If such a being exists, they are two of those three things, at best.
While I see things like Flat Earthism and Young Earth ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
"Children born with cancer, destined to live a few weeks before dying a painful death, are proof enough for me that there is no all seeing, all powerful, benevolent God." ah, how else might you punish the parents for their retarded actions that caused the cancer in the first place then? And ps "benevolent" is not nowhere in there wadr k, God plainly has *Israelites* under siege *eating their own children*?
NicoleCadmium comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Children born with cancer, destined to live a few weeks before dying a painful death, are proof enough for me that there is no all seeing, all powerful, benevolent God. If such a being exists, they are two of those three things, at best.
While I see things like Flat Earthism and Young Earth ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
"Children born with cancer, destined to live a few weeks before dying a painful death, are proof enough for me that there is no all seeing, all powerful, benevolent God." ah, how else might you punish the parents for their retarded actions that caused the cancer in the first place then? And ps "benevolent" is not nowhere in there wadr k, God plainly has *Israelites* under siege *eating their own children*?
My husband says, google is his god, because it knows everything and always has an answer for his ...
MrDMC comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Thank you for an interesting post. First of all, I probably would argue with your husband about Google. But then that is not the gist of your post.
I have considered myself Agnostic most of my life. I do believe that the term is Greek for, "no knowledge." So an agnostic is drawing no ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@zblaze ha. "Eating from the tree of *knowledge*..." is strictly for those who say they know, talk like they know, right? *"He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought."* i mean "become like a little child?" ha
MrDMC comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Thank you for an interesting post. First of all, I probably would argue with your husband about Google. But then that is not the gist of your post.
I have considered myself Agnostic most of my life. I do believe that the term is Greek for, "no knowledge." So an agnostic is drawing no ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@zblaze ha. "Eating from the tree of *knowledge*..." is strictly for those who say they know, talk like they know, right? *"He who says he knows does not yet know as he ought."* i mean "become like a little child?" ha
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Amen to that!!!
Religion is a fraud when you realize that primitive peoples invented it because they didn't understand the weather. That was one of my Eureka! moments that solidified my atheism.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@MayQueen reflect on how "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood by those living then maybe?
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Amen to that!!!
Religion is a fraud when you realize that primitive peoples invented it because they didn't understand the weather. That was one of my Eureka! moments that solidified my atheism.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@MayQueen reflect on how "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood by those living then maybe?
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Well so you say, but wadr "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood to be a ref to the Athena wisdom school at the time, and ones "resurrection" is supposed to happen at baptism, but trust me Mithraist Christians are totally ignoring that too. Peace
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Google "Mithraism and Christianity" for more if you like, obv virtually everyone claiming "Christian" believes they are going up to heaven after they have died, to become immortals too, in direct contradiction to the Bible they claim to love so much and read so literally. They are Jesus Cults who have really quite obviously put Jesus in the place of Apollo/Hermes. Again, have a good one k.
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Well so you say, but wadr "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood to be a ref to the Athena wisdom school at the time, and ones "resurrection" is supposed to happen at baptism, but trust me Mithraist Christians are totally ignoring that too. Peace
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Google "Mithraism and Christianity" for more if you like, obv virtually everyone claiming "Christian" believes they are going up to heaven after they have died, to become immortals too, in direct contradiction to the Bible they claim to love so much and read so literally. They are Jesus Cults who have really quite obviously put Jesus in the place of Apollo/Hermes. Again, have a good one k.
God created nature or are we an evolution of bio organisms first?
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Preparing your whole life to meet God is Mithraism, not Christianity. God hates religion as much as you do I'm sure
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Bro, it has so much empirical founding that google autocompletes "Christianity" for "Mithraism and" ok? Only the names have changed. Have a nice day
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Preparing your whole life to meet God is Mithraism, not Christianity. God hates religion as much as you do I'm sure
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 Bro, it has so much empirical founding that google autocompletes "Christianity" for "Mithraism and" ok? Only the names have changed. Have a nice day
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Amen to that!!!
Religion is a fraud when you realize that primitive peoples invented it because they didn't understand the weather. That was one of my Eureka! moments that solidified my atheism.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@MayQueen nice, and "Jesus" plainly said that He came to destroy all that, not to be taking anybody anywhere after they have died, Mithraism iow.
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Amen to that!!!
Religion is a fraud when you realize that primitive peoples invented it because they didn't understand the weather. That was one of my Eureka! moments that solidified my atheism.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@MayQueen nice, and "Jesus" plainly said that He came to destroy all that, not to be taking anybody anywhere after they have died, Mithraism iow.
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@MayQueen ok crap google those are all me now lol, try here http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Antichrist.html#.XRZA5NEpChA
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@MayQueen ok crap google those are all me now lol, try here http://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Antichrist.html#.XRZA5NEpChA
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@MayQueen I doubt He existed as an actual person tbh; "Jesus of Nazareth" is a way to scream "composite character" very plainly, at least imo and others. There was even a Hollywood movie made back in the forties or fifties, "Meet John Doe." But you might search the first phrase up there and follow the first clue if you like. Ok bye
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@MayQueen I doubt He existed as an actual person tbh; "Jesus of Nazareth" is a way to scream "composite character" very plainly, at least imo and others. There was even a Hollywood movie made back in the forties or fifties, "Meet John Doe." But you might search the first phrase up there and follow the first clue if you like. Ok bye
Name Something Christians say when they know they are losing an argument with an atheist.
Dogpound10 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Well I got into a debate with a Christian last weekend. When ahe had no rebuttal, she said that I will see how wrong I was when I died.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
Hit her with these if you like, *No Son of Man may die for another's sins, No one has ever gone up to heaven, There is only One Immortal.* yw:) *You and your sons will be here with me*
Dogpound10 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Well I got into a debate with a Christian last weekend. When ahe had no rebuttal, she said that I will see how wrong I was when I died.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
Hit her with these if you like, *No Son of Man may die for another's sins, No one has ever gone up to heaven, There is only One Immortal.* yw:) *You and your sons will be here with me*
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
"Jesus of Nazareth" interprets into "John Doe from out of Nowhere" after all? Which can be searched btw.
MayQueen comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Have you read _Zealot_ by Reza Aslan?
Very interesting...separating the man who was Jesus from the deity/religion.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
"Jesus of Nazareth" interprets into "John Doe from out of Nowhere" after all? Which can be searched btw.
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
mrveggieman187 comments on Jun 28, 2019:
It totally agree. It's based on unverifiable events and it discourages its followers from doing their own independent research.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
Christianity, certainly, the Bible, not even a little, ok? *test everything, and keep what is good*
mrveggieman187 comments on Jun 28, 2019:
It totally agree. It's based on unverifiable events and it discourages its followers from doing their own independent research.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
Christianity, certainly, the Bible, not even a little, ok? *test everything, and keep what is good*
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty well then I'll say it this way; there was no virgin birth, and no resurrection, like you say, and this may also be easily found in the Bible for someone who is not religious :)
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@F-IM-Forty well then I'll say it this way; there was no virgin birth, and no resurrection, like you say, and this may also be easily found in the Bible for someone who is not religious :)
God created nature or are we an evolution of bio organisms first?
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
"My Personal alternatives solutions has been in superfoods and cannabis herb medicines that are ahead of the ridged game. I'm very cautious of Corperationism Government and the powers to be. I'll go by : you are what you think: Plus, Nature is always right. There is only one God that almost everyone...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Castlepaloma believe it or not they were smarter than us, and they were not religious at all, ok? It is "kept" religious on the surface story to "hide wisdom from the wise?"
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
"My Personal alternatives solutions has been in superfoods and cannabis herb medicines that are ahead of the ridged game. I'm very cautious of Corperationism Government and the powers to be. I'll go by : you are what you think: Plus, Nature is always right. There is only one God that almost everyone...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Castlepaloma believe it or not they were smarter than us, and they were not religious at all, ok? It is "kept" religious on the surface story to "hide wisdom from the wise?"
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
Good points imo, we are supposed to be "Exodus" across the "sea of reeds" right? It's all in there i guess. What atheist would have a problem with "*I came to abolish all rule and authority and powers*?"
F-IM-Forty comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Yet, they were the first attempts to make reason of nature. With them and inspite of them we have science. I wish religion could be accepted as historical context for an out moded way of thinking.
We naturally cling to traditions out of fear, so easier said then done.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
Good points imo, we are supposed to be "Exodus" across the "sea of reeds" right? It's all in there i guess. What atheist would have a problem with "*I came to abolish all rule and authority and powers*?"
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
DenoPenno comments on Jun 28, 2019:
All religion is a fraud.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
The OT is a record of the failure of religion, after all yeh
DenoPenno comments on Jun 28, 2019:
All religion is a fraud.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
The OT is a record of the failure of religion, after all yeh
Christianity is a fraud religion since it is based on two events that never happened; a virgin birth...
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Well so you say, but wadr "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood to be a ref to the Athena wisdom school at the time, and ones "resurrection" is supposed to happen at baptism, but trust me Mithraist Christians are totally ignoring that too. Peace
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 a "believer" who thinks that they might go up to heaven (Elysian Fields) after Jesus (Apollo, Hermes) "returns" (can't be quoted anywhere) and takes them? *No one has ever gone up to heaven, there is only one immortal* etc
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Well so you say, but wadr "the virgin will be with child" would have been understood to be a ref to the Athena wisdom school at the time, and ones "resurrection" is supposed to happen at baptism, but trust me Mithraist Christians are totally ignoring that too. Peace
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 a "believer" who thinks that they might go up to heaven (Elysian Fields) after Jesus (Apollo, Hermes) "returns" (can't be quoted anywhere) and takes them? *No one has ever gone up to heaven, there is only one immortal* etc
As an Atheist who just turned 40 and is single I am now for the first time really grappling with my ...
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
There is only One Immortal supposedly anyway, so imo you are in way better shape than most believers i guess? lol. An atheist might be uniquely positioned to break out of the bell curve and plant a spike in the earth, why not? We don't much get to choose how we live, but we do get to choose how we ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@benhmiller Ben, I'm not denying that it is *possible* to change your station, nor to die by lightning strike either, ok? Yes, both do happen.
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
There is only One Immortal supposedly anyway, so imo you are in way better shape than most believers i guess? lol. An atheist might be uniquely positioned to break out of the bell curve and plant a spike in the earth, why not? We don't much get to choose how we live, but we do get to choose how we ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@benhmiller Ben, I'm not denying that it is *possible* to change your station, nor to die by lightning strike either, ok? Yes, both do happen.
God created nature or are we an evolution of bio organisms first?
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Preparing your whole life to meet God is Mithraism, not Christianity. God hates religion as much as you do I'm sure
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 ah no, Jesus would be Apollo/Hermes in that scenario i guess. As for refs, wouldn't most any Christian admit to hoping to go up to heaven after they have died, to become an immortal? *There is only One Immortal, who lives in unapproachable light; no one has ever gone up to heaven,* et al. Also *if you dig a pit for others, you end up in it yourself*
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Preparing your whole life to meet God is Mithraism, not Christianity. God hates religion as much as you do I'm sure
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 ah no, Jesus would be Apollo/Hermes in that scenario i guess. As for refs, wouldn't most any Christian admit to hoping to go up to heaven after they have died, to become an immortal? *There is only One Immortal, who lives in unapproachable light; no one has ever gone up to heaven,* et al. Also *if you dig a pit for others, you end up in it yourself*
My husband says, google is his god, because it knows everything and always has an answer for his ...
MrDMC comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Thank you for an interesting post. First of all, I probably would argue with your husband about Google. But then that is not the gist of your post.
I have considered myself Agnostic most of my life. I do believe that the term is Greek for, "no knowledge." So an agnostic is drawing no ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
Little do you know that the principle you espouse is completely Scriptural, if decidedly not Christian? Manna is not called "what is it?" for nothing, eh? The tree of *knowledge* of good and evil, hello?
MrDMC comments on Jun 28, 2019:
Thank you for an interesting post. First of all, I probably would argue with your husband about Google. But then that is not the gist of your post.
I have considered myself Agnostic most of my life. I do believe that the term is Greek for, "no knowledge." So an agnostic is drawing no ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 28, 2019:
Little do you know that the principle you espouse is completely Scriptural, if decidedly not Christian? Manna is not called "what is it?" for nothing, eh? The tree of *knowledge* of good and evil, hello?
God created nature or are we an evolution of bio organisms first?
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Preparing your whole life to meet God is Mithraism, not Christianity. God hates religion as much as you do I'm sure
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 27, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 um, it's in the Bible, in code, refs to Apollo, and "no one has ever gone up to heaven...," " there is only One Immortal," "you and your sons will be here with me" even, but a Google search of "Mithrism and..." will auto-complete for "Christianity"fwiw. Basically Apollo taking one who is not a "grey" to the Elysian Fields? Most "Christians" "waiting for Jesus" are total Mithraists
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Preparing your whole life to meet God is Mithraism, not Christianity. God hates religion as much as you do I'm sure
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 27, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 um, it's in the Bible, in code, refs to Apollo, and "no one has ever gone up to heaven...," " there is only One Immortal," "you and your sons will be here with me" even, but a Google search of "Mithrism and..." will auto-complete for "Christianity"fwiw. Basically Apollo taking one who is not a "grey" to the Elysian Fields? Most "Christians" "waiting for Jesus" are total Mithraists
As an Atheist who just turned 40 and is single I am now for the first time really grappling with my ...
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
There is only One Immortal supposedly anyway, so imo you are in way better shape than most believers i guess? lol. An atheist might be uniquely positioned to break out of the bell curve and plant a spike in the earth, why not? We don't much get to choose how we live, but we do get to choose how we ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 27, 2019:
@benhmiller ah well, good points, i meant to say we rarely change our station so to speak, and those ways of dying are the extremes?
bbyrd009 comments on Jun 27, 2019:
There is only One Immortal supposedly anyway, so imo you are in way better shape than most believers i guess? lol. An atheist might be uniquely positioned to break out of the bell curve and plant a spike in the earth, why not? We don't much get to choose how we live, but we do get to choose how we ...
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 27, 2019:
@benhmiller ah well, good points, i meant to say we rarely change our station so to speak, and those ways of dying are the extremes?
Is Billy Mumy god?
Seeker3CO comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Believers are delusional and unwilling or unable to free themselves.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 27, 2019:
Bible says the same thing, believe it or not! In a weird way, "believers" turn out to be the worst, yeh
Seeker3CO comments on Jun 27, 2019:
Believers are delusional and unwilling or unable to free themselves.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 27, 2019:
Bible says the same thing, believe it or not! In a weird way, "believers" turn out to be the worst, yeh
[thetimes.
hippydog comments on May 3, 2019:
Examples?
Cause personally on this site i treat all nutjobs kinda equal.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 11, 2019:
@Moravian oh duh. But i guess i am still behind, my understanding was that Muhammad did not condone violence, except when the whole clan/bloodline was threatened with extinction? Did He actually support those Crusades? ty
As to Jesus, believe it or not "John Doe from Nowhere" is right there in plain code i think. Jesus = Joshua, the most common male name then, and Nazareth was curiously uninhabited in the first century, although it was peopled in the centuries before and after? At least according to...ppl more reputable than me lol. A rabbi was known by their "school" i guess, hence "Paul of Tarsus" etc, Tarsus being a rather famous Rabbinical School. So anyway, "Jesus of Nazareth" equates to "John Doe from out of Nowhere" in the then current lexicon, at least according to some. I would have put it "John Doe from Nowhere" but the quotes are searchable for more.
hippydog comments on May 3, 2019:
Examples?
Cause personally on this site i treat all nutjobs kinda equal.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 11, 2019:
@Moravian oh duh. But i guess i am still behind, my understanding was that Muhammad did not condone violence, except when the whole clan/bloodline was threatened with extinction? Did He actually support those Crusades? ty
As to Jesus, believe it or not "John Doe from Nowhere" is right there in plain code i think. Jesus = Joshua, the most common male name then, and Nazareth was curiously uninhabited in the first century, although it was peopled in the centuries before and after? At least according to...ppl more reputable than me lol. A rabbi was known by their "school" i guess, hence "Paul of Tarsus" etc, Tarsus being a rather famous Rabbinical School. So anyway, "Jesus of Nazareth" equates to "John Doe from out of Nowhere" in the then current lexicon, at least according to some. I would have put it "John Doe from Nowhere" but the quotes are searchable for more.
[thetimes.
hippydog comments on May 3, 2019:
Examples?
Cause personally on this site i treat all nutjobs kinda equal.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 10, 2019:
@Moravian hmm, you think :"Jesus" instigated those? Why for? Got a link? ty
hippydog comments on May 3, 2019:
Examples?
Cause personally on this site i treat all nutjobs kinda equal.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 10, 2019:
@Moravian hmm, you think :"Jesus" instigated those? Why for? Got a link? ty
[thetimes.
JackPedigo comments on May 1, 2019:
So what happens when Jews (the cultural type) express anti-Zionist sentiments? Governments can make statements all they want but freedom of speech and reality will not be censored.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 8, 2019:
@Moravian ha, never thought of that lol
JackPedigo comments on May 1, 2019:
So what happens when Jews (the cultural type) express anti-Zionist sentiments? Governments can make statements all they want but freedom of speech and reality will not be censored.
bbyrd009 replies on Jun 8, 2019:
@Moravian ha, never thought of that lol
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