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JEJUNE - Adjective...naive, simplistic, and superficial. "Their entirely predictable and usually ...
kirkz comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I've been recording audiobooks with librivox.org, as a volunteer, for about 7 years. LibriVox's mission is to record all the books that are no longer under copyright, so they're all written before 1925. Every once and a while I run across a word that I've never heard, like today, the word ...
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
I did a few of those too. I really enjoyed it even though I always struggled to get the voice level right.
Of course - EVERYthing is a sin ! Guilt-guilt-guilt
St-Sinner comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Happiness is forbidden by religion.
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Geoffrey51 If it's not, it should be.
[bbc.com] "..... in the UK, the vast majority of women opt for free care under the tax payer-funded...
Marionville comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I say “thank you” to our NHS every time I read about health provision in the USA. Our Statutory Maternity Leave is also extremely generous compared to the USA, I wasn’t actually aware of that. I myself had two C.Section births on the NHS in 1977 and 1980, and know nobody who has had a ...
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Petter I will. Thank you!
Is nationalism overrated?
Andy4608 comments on Apr 29, 2019:
Emmanuel Macron gave the following take on nationalism when talking at the ceremonies commemorating 100 years since the armistice in 2018. “Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism,by saying, ‘Our interests first, who cares about the others,’ we erase what a nation holds dearest, what ...
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
Saint Emmanuel. Always caring about the little guy.
[bbc.com] "..... in the UK, the vast majority of women opt for free care under the tax payer-funded...
Marionville comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I say “thank you” to our NHS every time I read about health provision in the USA. Our Statutory Maternity Leave is also extremely generous compared to the USA, I wasn’t actually aware of that. I myself had two C.Section births on the NHS in 1977 and 1980, and know nobody who has had a ...
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Petter I'll keep that in mind. I'm always thinking of getting back to Spain.
How many non believers do not like getting drunk or being around drunks?
Deiter comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I was a bartender in college. Drunks are foolish, obvious, randy, belligerent, often bores, and sometimes a good time. Much prefer to be around them when I'm more inclined myself. Still, drunks are much more fun than weed enthusiasts who tend to withdraw and reveal little. Of weed I was never a ...
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
I was amazed when my eldest son told me that about weed. I always thought socialising with friends when drunk was a great opportunity to say what you really think about life.
To believe in something, and not to live it, is dishonest.- Mahatma Gandhi
Theresa_N comments on Apr 29, 2019:
It's sad he was such a racist and hypocrite. I guess it's typical of a religionist.
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
Oh no, next we'll be bad-mouthing Mother Teresa!
[bbc.com] "..... in the UK, the vast majority of women opt for free care under the tax payer-funded...
Marionville comments on Apr 29, 2019:
I say “thank you” to our NHS every time I read about health provision in the USA. Our Statutory Maternity Leave is also extremely generous compared to the USA, I wasn’t actually aware of that. I myself had two C.Section births on the NHS in 1977 and 1980, and know nobody who has had a ...
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Petter I was treated as an out-patient in Almeria on my European Medical Card. They looked after me very well and the meds were extremely cheap. If I didn't have a council house here, I would be off to live there in a heartbeat.
Me trying to make friends... [youtube.com]
Rob1948 comments on Apr 28, 2019:
That’s cute but if you care for your pets, you need to know that raccoons carry a variety of diseases, including rabies and distemper, that can affect your pets.
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
@Robecology I feel constrained already.
Numbers 29:13 (NRSV): You shall offer a burnt offering, an offering by fire, a pleasing odor to the ...
Count_Viceroy comments on Apr 28, 2019:
Did they at least get to eat it after god got a sniff?
brentan replies on Apr 29, 2019:
Yes they did and I'll bet the priests never went hungry.
TRIGGER WARNING : “Trans-talk” : TRANS-WOMEN ARE NOT WOMEN. MEN CANNOT BECOME WOMEN simply ...
ShadowAmicus comments on Apr 28, 2019:
I DON'T CARE - what transgender issues? I go back to the Trojans, who practised institutional bisexualism or the Sodomites - the clue is in the name - both groups feared as the greatest fighters of their era - so please don't try and tell us that homosexuals are not men, or that women are weak and ...
brentan replies on Apr 28, 2019:
What do you think are the consequences if the sexual equipment is changed from its 'founding DNA or genetics'? Are there any, or are you just saying it has been changed to become a fake phenotype of the 'founding DNA'?
TRIGGER WARNING : “Trans-talk” : TRANS-WOMEN ARE NOT WOMEN. MEN CANNOT BECOME WOMEN simply ...
brentan comments on Apr 28, 2019:
For me, it boils down to the belief that there are two sexes and a spectrum of genders. I agree that transgenderism is punching way above its weight, probably because we live in an age of prioritising feelings. I was with them all, including the LGBT+ until they started dictating how it was going...
brentan replies on Apr 28, 2019:
I have no argument with anything there.
Nothing created by humankind is inviolate and unchanging. This includes the Bible, the Quran, the ...
Beowulfsfriend comments on Apr 28, 2019:
Holding power is why certain people never want change. Even when change is reasonable or scientific - if it weakens one's grasp on control, they say no. Easy to see in religion: science says this, so, we just won't believe science, we will believe magic. And force everyone else to do so as ...
brentan replies on Apr 28, 2019:
I read that Galileo insisted that the Copernican vew of the universe was the only true way of looking at it. He had a friend and benefactor in the pope of the time until he got dogmatic about it. He belonged to a society that looked on the sun in a religious way which didn't help his case. In the end, he was threatened by the Inquisition and set free. Science has become even more dogmatic as time goes by.
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, ...
KKGator comments on Apr 27, 2019:
No, "god" isn't schizophrenic, humans are. You know, since all gods are man-made.
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@KKGator Fair enough!
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, ...
KKGator comments on Apr 27, 2019:
No, "god" isn't schizophrenic, humans are. You know, since all gods are man-made.
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
I have to say I think we were very different back then. I think we were very different even in the Middle Ages. But it's true the Bible stories were taken from earlier times and don't often fit well with reality. I'm thinking of the silliness of the Samson story set against the reality of the struggle against the Philistines. The Bible is really a story about the myth of nationality. We all have them, my own only goes back to about 1900. I think monotheism could only end up being the Logos personified in Christ but it's easy to say that in hindsight. I think we came to think the way we think through the only means historically and culturally open to us. But why do you think the Bible stories aren't interesting like the 'pagan' stories? I think they stand up pretty well in their own right, silly as they are, and are even more interesting when they are looked at through a psychological lens.
Beautiful ENYA and "THE BRIGHT DAYS OF MY YOUTH" 'The bright days of my youth They were full of...
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Mo theanga bhocht (my poor language). It is so nice to hear it from time to time.
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
Cinnte go bhfuil!
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, ...
KKGator comments on Apr 27, 2019:
No, "god" isn't schizophrenic, humans are. You know, since all gods are man-made.
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
I suppose they are if we focus on where we are now but I love the Bible because it tells us where we were on the way to being who we are.
"Atheism deserves better than the new atheists whose methodology consists of criticizing religion ...
Geoffrey51 comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Totally agree. Never understood why so called atheists want to get involved with religion and even worse become evangelical about their atheism. Makes no sense to me but then not much does!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
It's a kind of psychotherapy that so many of us need. It's like lieing on the couch and talking to our therapist and trying to rationalise what happened and get past it. I must admit some people don't want to get past it and spend all their time venting instead.
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, ...
KKGator comments on Apr 27, 2019:
No, "god" isn't schizophrenic, humans are. You know, since all gods are man-made.
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
I think the nature of gods changed as people changed but then we were left with a book that couldn’t reconcile the two.
Read, read, read.
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 27, 2019:
"A book is made from a tree. It is an assemblage of flat, flexible parts (still called "leaves") imprinted with dark pigmented squiggles. One glance at it and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for thousands of years." ~ Carl Sagan
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
He is so right! It's such a joy to step into the shoes of people so long gone and appreciate how intelligent they were in their own time and very often by our standards too.
Love is a drug
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Aw shucks, they look like they're made for each other!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
Or Ken and Barbie!
Happy Saturday!
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Religion is getting a real hammering today!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@SiouxcitySue All those people who still believe. We don't cut them a lot of slack.
Thoughts for Us..
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I have a bit of that in me too and I'm not apologising to anyone (well, maybe my poor ex-wife who had to suffer a guy too dumb to know who he really was). But these days.... not a chance!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@MrLizard I guess all we can do in these complex situations is try to behave honourably. Which you did. I hope my ignorance is an excuse. I have to say I love the simple and honest way I can live now.
Mirrors are evil!
glennlab comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I stored up too much and we had a mild winter, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
Better safe than sorry.
Sounds reasonable to me! 🍷🍷🍷
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I'll bet that would appal the connoisseurs.
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
Excellent!
Thoughts for Us..
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I have a bit of that in me too and I'm not apologising to anyone (well, maybe my poor ex-wife who had to suffer a guy too dumb to know who he really was). But these days.... not a chance!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@MrLizard I feel the same. I think my wife copped on very early. In fact, looking back, I think everyone knew except me. It's a pity she didn't understand before we got married. But it can't have been easy because first we were in a religion that forbade premarital sex and afterwards, well, I always enjoyed heterosexual sex anyway, never giving homosexuality a thought at the time
Do you think it sounds a bit like rap? Frank Zappa - Dumb All Over (Have I Offended ...
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
That was very funny! There wasn't any hos getting bitch-slapped but that's a plus. Religion sure is taking a beating today! Take that, be-atch!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose Yes, I read it in The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail.
TRANSUBSTANTIATION - Noun....(Christian theology) the conversion of the Eucharist elements into ...
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I came across a curious understanding of it first in The Canterbury Tales and more recently in William Blake. They separated the substance of the host from the 'accident'. The substance is the essence of the thing and the accident is the material, tangible expression of the essence. I read a ...
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose Yes indeed. It's not what we expect to read and to be honest, I don't know how true it is but nonetheless these intellectuals and academics did manage to survive (or at least some of them).
Set a good example for the children
Robecology comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Or just substitute silliness...especially if you're a teacher! You cork-soaking, sock-tucker! You muffer-flusher! you piece of Slit! ....your turn....be creative!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
That reminds me of the Chinese guy in Deadwood.
Read, read, read.
IamNobody comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Read 'til your eyes fall out their sockets
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
I do. I really hope eye technology gets to a point where it can save me from myself.
Do you think it sounds a bit like rap? Frank Zappa - Dumb All Over (Have I Offended ...
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
That was very funny! There wasn't any hos getting bitch-slapped but that's a plus. Religion sure is taking a beating today! Take that, be-atch!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose Yes indeed! I came across a great word when I read about the war against the Albigensians. It is 'extirpate' and by golly they wanted that heresy taken out by the roots. Now people want religion out the same way.
TRANSUBSTANTIATION - Noun....(Christian theology) the conversion of the Eucharist elements into ...
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I came across a curious understanding of it first in The Canterbury Tales and more recently in William Blake. They separated the substance of the host from the 'accident'. The substance is the essence of the thing and the accident is the material, tangible expression of the essence. I read a ...
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose I wonder. I can't help thinking it might have intellectualised Christian beliefs. Not that that would have meant anything to people who needed their faith expressed in simple words and pictures. I don't know how Aquinas got away with it. Dante either. There must have been a light touch at the time. Curiously, I'm just reading at the moment that the church got a bad rap with Galileo too, and if he hadn't been so dogmatic about the new astronomy, the pope at the time was more than willing to accomodate his ideas.
Happy Saturday!
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Religion is getting a real hammering today!
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@altschmerz Ah but, ah but, to err is human.
I recently went to a religious a event with a family member at Easter time. the religious ...
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
The internal logic is that Adam, as the father of mankind, became a flawed person and that flaw was passed down by inheritance. Jesus was to be the father of a people freed from that flaw through grace. The Catholic Church, for one, seems to be content to see the Genesis story as an allegory, ...
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@m16566 All I can do is provide the verses and my thoughts for whatever use they might be. A lot of people see a logical string of thought from Genesis 3:15 up to Christ. I see the Bible's internal logic too but I think evolution put paid to the idea of the 'propitiatory sacrifice'.
Old people porn
EricTrommater comments on Apr 27, 2019:
Eww! I don't want to see me naked.
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
Wow, that's exactly what I was thinking!
Take Me Home, Country Roads. [youtube.com]
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I expected John Denver but that was a good version - jaunty! I read mixed reviews about Fallout 76. Did you play it? Like it?
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
That's useful to know. Thanks for the heads-up.
TRANSUBSTANTIATION - Noun....(Christian theology) the conversion of the Eucharist elements into ...
brentan comments on Apr 27, 2019:
I came across a curious understanding of it first in The Canterbury Tales and more recently in William Blake. They separated the substance of the host from the 'accident'. The substance is the essence of the thing and the accident is the material, tangible expression of the essence. I read a ...
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
@AnonySchmoose Yes, it might very well be. I read Thomas Aquinas injected a heap of Platonism into his writings on Christianity and his influence was huge at the time. I must check that out!
I live in the Bible Belt and being open about being an unbeliever would be difficult to say the ...
St-Sinner comments on Apr 26, 2019:
These states are ranked as the top most conservatives states in the U.S. top-conservative-states-in-the-us-3303802 1. Tennessee 2. Louisiana 3. Wyoming 4. South Dakota 5. Texas 6. North Dakota 7. Mississippi While this site ranks these 10 state are the most conservative states: ...
brentan replies on Apr 27, 2019:
Could poverty be the common denominator?
Everyone’s a fan, until it comes down to where do you put them, then it’s ‘Not in my ...
brentan comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I read that they produce too little to be any use other than a salve for consciences.
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@LenHazell53 Shush! Too much information!
Gad Saad's sarcasm about the insanity of Charlize Theron's WOKENESS: She is a child abuser. ...
brentan comments on Apr 26, 2019:
*I don't want my child to be a phenotype of my progressive genes.* (paraphrasing) Gad is a highly intelligent man but he's a smug, sarky bastard.
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Novelty So they have and girly boys too. I had a schoolfriend who had eight sisters and he was very effeminate in his ways. His name was Sheamus but everybody called him Mary. I sure would love to know how he got on in life. But I'm not sure conservatives are to blame for all the discussion around transgenderism, if that's the right word. I blame the extreme lefties who who want to punch above the weight of the actual problem. By this I mean I think transgender people are a tiny minority in proportion to the size of the discussion. That said, here's another side of the problem that is nothing short of horrifying: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/apr/26/armenian-mps-call-for-trans-activist-to-be-burned-alive-after-historic-speech-lilit-martirosyan
Carl Benjamin: the case for free speech. FREE SPEECH is the foundation of western civilization. No ...
Matias comments on Apr 26, 2019:
In Germany we have Free speech, it is part of our constitution. But we also have laws against hate speech. Any intelligent person should be able to tell the two apart (even if there is a grey area in between)
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
I don't know if the two have been articulated legally. Probably freedom of speech, not sure about hate speech. You could make a thread to see what people think and how they would differentiate between the two.
Gad Saad's sarcasm about the insanity of Charlize Theron's WOKENESS: She is a child abuser. ...
brentan comments on Apr 26, 2019:
*I don't want my child to be a phenotype of my progressive genes.* (paraphrasing) Gad is a highly intelligent man but he's a smug, sarky bastard.
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Novelty I think it has to be discussed because of the political side to it and the legal implications.
Everyone’s a fan, until it comes down to where do you put them, then it’s ‘Not in my ...
brentan comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I read that they produce too little to be any use other than a salve for consciences.
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
I'm pretty sure this isn't where I read it originaly but this website makes the point (once in the pros of the technology and again in the cons). https://energyinformative.org/wind-energy-pros-and-cons/ I don't know if the output has increased a lot since the 2.5% in 2010 but I see the figure for all types of renewable energy is currently 16.9% in the U.S. in 2016. https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2016/08/renewable-energy-was-16-9-percent-of-u-s-electric-generation-in-the-first-half-of-2016.html
Ha ha Florida woman!
brentan comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Is it really that bad?
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Ha. I get it now. Thanks!
PREVARICATE (intransitive verb) - to deviate from the truth; to tell a lie. I mention this one in ...
itsmedammit comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Way too much prevarication going on these days.
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
I always leave it for another day!
Everyone’s a fan, until it comes down to where do you put them, then it’s ‘Not in my ...
brentan comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I read that they produce too little to be any use other than a salve for consciences.
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
At this stage, I've no idea.
Mixed bag for Friday
brentan comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Excellent! Are you named after the soup or beer pot? I looked it up and it said it meant a big pot or dish. I thought the een meant small but it turns out this een means made of or having the nature of. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/tureen
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@Tooreen Thanks a lot!
Do you think this can be a good name for a church? (Big potential for a massive men following)
Moravian comments on Apr 24, 2019:
That would give "speaking in tongues" a totally different meaning. :-)
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Yes indeed, and the symbol of the fish.
Do you think this can be a good name for a church? (Big potential for a massive men following)
UpsideDownAgain comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Men might want to follow it but would they actually be able to find it?
brentan replies on Apr 26, 2019:
It's easier now with women shaving down there. That little runway of pubic hair was a good idea too.
I have never understood how any self-respecting woman could be a Christian.
brentan comments on Apr 25, 2019:
They rationalise some of the things they don't like and ignore the other things.
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@GuyKeith The real thing is very, very hard. Not that I'm saying lots try.
As far as I can see, this site was set up and is run by and financed by a small group of ...
brentan comments on Apr 25, 2019:
I guess this follows the general thrust of put up or shut up. Well, no thanks! A large part of the problem is the transfer of power to suppress speech to too many people who have already demonstrated their lack of objectivity and often megalomania. Power attracts these assholes. So we'll complain...
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
Owl, you're on the wrong thread.
Happy WTF Happened to the Site Day!
chalupacabre comments on Apr 25, 2019:
Somebody forget a burnt offering?
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@chalupacabre Well dammit! I thought juxtaposing Moses' predicament with admin's current dilemma was not just clever but funny too. Oh well...
We put back the link to the "General Forum" at the top header (currently in archive mode) and are ...
Matias comments on Apr 25, 2019:
If your basic problem was too much work for too few admins to monitor the general form, I am sure that there are lots of senior members of this forum who would be ready to volunteer as mods in one of the categories (to keep the trolls at bay or whatever has to be done)
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@freeofgod I think it's that one person's troll is another person's outspoken commenter. The perps and the victims were probably driving admin mad so they took the easy way out and gave all the power to the mods.
Don't fit in, that's a good thing..... [youtube.com]
brentan comments on Apr 25, 2019:
That was good. I enjoyed the fairly recent spate of TV programs that linked autism to brilliance. Monk comes to mind. There was a movie with Claire Danes telling the story of an autistic women who studied cattle and set up new more humane ways of slaughtering them. It is really good to see the ...
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@KKGator Thanks. The name wouldn't come to me.
As far as I can see, this site was set up and is run by and financed by a small group of ...
brentan comments on Apr 25, 2019:
I guess this follows the general thrust of put up or shut up. Well, no thanks! A large part of the problem is the transfer of power to suppress speech to too many people who have already demonstrated their lack of objectivity and often megalomania. Power attracts these assholes. So we'll complain...
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@CeliaVL Well then i think you should be pleased at all the thoughts people expressed about the change.
Happy WTF Happened to the Site Day!
chalupacabre comments on Apr 25, 2019:
Somebody forget a burnt offering?
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@SiouxcitySue Oh go on then - rub it in!
As far as I can see, this site was set up and is run by and financed by a small group of ...
brentan comments on Apr 25, 2019:
I guess this follows the general thrust of put up or shut up. Well, no thanks! A large part of the problem is the transfer of power to suppress speech to too many people who have already demonstrated their lack of objectivity and often megalomania. Power attracts these assholes. So we'll complain...
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@CeliaVL Damned if I know what's wrong with telling people their intentions. If you don't say what you're thinking, your silence will probably be taken as consent. Maybe you're just annoyed at some people who overestimate their importance to the forum. There's no doubt we are all dispensible.
Is it possible to block an entire group -- to not see any posts in the general feed from that group?...
Green_eyes comments on Apr 25, 2019:
Could you just not hide the group?
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Green_eyes Blocking will happen on a whole new level now.
Happy WTF Happened to the Site Day!
chalupacabre comments on Apr 25, 2019:
Somebody forget a burnt offering?
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@SiouxcitySue I apologise. I love that Biblical stuff.
Happy WTF Happened to the Site Day!
chalupacabre comments on Apr 25, 2019:
Somebody forget a burnt offering?
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
Moses was overwhelmed with responsibility and God was annoyed with the people wearing him out: He proposed a solution: And Moses heard the people weeping by its families, each at the door of his tent; and the anger of Jehovah glowed exceedingly, and in the eyes of Moses it was evil. And Moses said to Jehovah, Why have You done evil to Your servant; and why have I not found grace in Your eyes to put the burden of all this people on me?  I, have I conceived all this people? I, have I begotten it, that You say to me, Carry it in your bosom as the foster father bears the suckling, to the land which You have sworn to its fathers? Where shall I get flesh to give to all this people? For they weep to me, saying, Give to us flesh that we may eat. I am not able, I alone, to bear all this people, for it is too heavy for me; and if You deal thus with me, please quickly kill me, if I have found grace in Your eyes, and let me not look on my affliction. And Jehovah said to Moses, Assemble to Me seventy men of the elders of Israel, whom you have known that they are elders of the people, and its officers. And you shall take them to the tabernacle of the congregation; and they shall station themselves there with you. And I shall come down and speak with you there; and I will take of the spirit which is upon you, and will put it on them; and they will bear the burden of the people with you, that you may not bear it yourself alone. - Numbers 11:10-17.
So are we going to get the cute little site meter back, showing us total people on the site, group ...
brentan comments on Apr 25, 2019:
It would be interesting because I don't want to go off in a huff, or leave on principle to put it a better way. I think I'll stay until a day comes when I think it's just no fun anymore.
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
Oh you, you....philistine, Haemish!
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
Triphid comments on Apr 23, 2019:
Oh Dear Poster, would you like a box of tissues perhaps? We do NOT hate Muslims as people, we just object VERY Strongly to their Arcane, Archaic, often Inhumane Belief system just as we do with all other religions. Islam, just like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc, etc, is NOT an ...
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@OwlInASack I don't think you need to go. I don't want you to go because you're a decent guy who cares about people. Our difference is in how we look at free speech.The new way the site is going to be managed might suit you quite well, especially if you start up your own group
Sometimes it is all the way you look at things. Wizard of Oz.
Cast1es comments on Apr 25, 2019:
She didn't kill her , the house did , and it wasn't even her house . It belonged to her aunt and uncle . She wasn't even driving it , it was dropped by the tornado .
brentan replies on Apr 25, 2019:
Oh go on then, burst the bubble with facts, why don't ya?
I liked the General Forum. Not thrilled about it's removal.
josh_is_exciting comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Having read the Admin's main post about the matter and since we're in the Senate... would anyone be interested in volunteering to moderate? I guess the system in place to have Level, what was it? 6? 7? to approve posts wasn't working? I'm curious as to what the problematic posts were? I'm a ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@josh_is_exciting Gotcha, thanks.
I liked the General Forum. Not thrilled about it's removal.
UrsiMajor comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It got to be too much work for unpaid admin to deal with the whining. You are not helping the forum by complaining to Admin that you are an Applebee's person and Billy Bob is a TGI Friday's person, etc. Agnostic.com didn't have the resources to handle that. Growing pains suck. If they don't have ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@demifeministgal Free speech determined by the owners of the forum.
I liked the General Forum. Not thrilled about it's removal.
josh_is_exciting comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Having read the Admin's main post about the matter and since we're in the Senate... would anyone be interested in volunteering to moderate? I guess the system in place to have Level, what was it? 6? 7? to approve posts wasn't working? I'm curious as to what the problematic posts were? I'm a ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@josh_is_exciting It doesn't answer volunteering to moderate what?
I liked the General Forum. Not thrilled about it's removal.
ProudMerrie comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Same here. I think it's going to make it more difficult to get to know one another without belonging to some of the same groups.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@TCorCM I haven't mustered up the courage yet.
I liked the General Forum. Not thrilled about it's removal.
Lukian comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm out of here. This makes no sense. I lost more than 1000 posts from my profile. I'll convert my groups to new owners.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Hang on a bit. Maybe we can self-moderate a General Forum.
I liked the General Forum. Not thrilled about it's removal.
ProudMerrie comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Same here. I think it's going to make it more difficult to get to know one another without belonging to some of the same groups.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@TCorCM I'm going to defend AOC on the Conservative Atheist Group to test it out.
I liked the General Forum. Not thrilled about it's removal.
josh_is_exciting comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Having read the Admin's main post about the matter and since we're in the Senate... would anyone be interested in volunteering to moderate? I guess the system in place to have Level, what was it? 6? 7? to approve posts wasn't working? I'm curious as to what the problematic posts were? I'm a ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Volunteer to moderate what? I think I missed what admin said.
I liked the General Forum. Not thrilled about it's removal.
UrsiMajor comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It got to be too much work for unpaid admin to deal with the whining. You are not helping the forum by complaining to Admin that you are an Applebee's person and Billy Bob is a TGI Friday's person, etc. Agnostic.com didn't have the resources to handle that. Growing pains suck. If they don't have ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Here's the solution: 1. Is the comment allowable under free speech? It's legit. 2. Did it hurt your feelings? Grow a pair.
Yes, we removed the general forum. It was a tough decision and we eventually moved to a group model...
Xuande comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Thanks for the memories guys. We're supposed to be the people that promote free thinking, open conversations. Thanks for making us all hypocrites and rendering the entire idea useless. Sorry for the trauma.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
We need to find our own sheep pen and bleat appropriately.
Yes, we removed the general forum. It was a tough decision and we eventually moved to a group model...
David1955 comments on Apr 24, 2019:
So, this is no longer a Community, but a collection of groups. That is sad. Will someone please set up a *Group* called *"Community"*, we'll all join, and we go back to where we were. Thanks Also, I remember the Good Ole Days when we were asked what we thought about possible changes. ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@Jacar I wonder if the host of the new General Forum really supported free speech, would that work, at least while it was understood that this is the point of this particular forum? I suppose people who got offended would still want admin to go to bat for them but if admin kept to the decision to allow hosts have the final decision...
Yes, we removed the general forum. It was a tough decision and we eventually moved to a group model...
UrsiMajor comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Removing the General Forum is a bad idea. Instead, you should update your policy to "No Whining." Unless someone is committing a crime punishable by law, shut the hell up and deal with it.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Gosh, that gets to the heart of it.
Yes, we removed the general forum. It was a tough decision and we eventually moved to a group model...
Jacar comments on Apr 24, 2019:
""acceptable posts"" ???
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
You're screwed, Jacar.
Yes, we removed the general forum. It was a tough decision and we eventually moved to a group model...
TomMcGiverin comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Unless it's a typo or I'm misreading your post, admin., what you seem to by saying with this decision is that now all the moderating will be done at the group level rather than the site level. What this change does is give almighty power to the group moderators to act like petty tyrants, which some ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Let the ass-kissing begin!
Removal of the general forum proves one thing, this site is a lost cause. It is becoming to much of...
Jacar comments on Apr 24, 2019:
My post count dropped from around 400 to 41. Have i lost points? Will it take me longer to get to the promised land? I have changed the forum/group for a bunch of messages today.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@freeofgod If you and Jacar would only stick to the script you'd have T-shirts in no time at all.
Removal of the general forum proves one thing, this site is a lost cause. It is becoming to much of...
Mark013 comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I have not joined this group but can still post here? Can we post in any group without joining? I agree that dropping the general forum is a bad idea. I came and browsed, maybe made a comment here and there. Doubt I will want to look through all the groups and will lose interest soon enough in even ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
All the little Hitlers with their echo-chambers. No thanks.
Removal of the general forum proves one thing, this site is a lost cause. It is becoming to much of...
TomMcGiverin comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It blows... My question is this: Was this decision made like any other one in corporate America, namely top-down decision making with no input or even asking for feedback on the idea from general members? My guess is, a big fat NO. My assumption if that the general forums were eliminated so all of ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Well said!
Yes, we removed the general forum. It was a tough decision and we eventually moved to a group model...
Sticks48 comments on Apr 24, 2019:
No trauma, just a real high school idea. It turns it from a real grownup site to something teenagers would think up. I will have to think about leaving. This is not an enjoyable format.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Yes indeed! I was thinking of Jonathan Haidt and The Coddling of the American Mind.
If anyone finds the frog ? -your a special kind of person
altschmerz comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm really trying to find the frog here ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@SiouxcitySue Well, I guess he'll live. We could only hope in prison for a long time. What's up with that carry-on?
Removal of the general forum proves one thing, this site is a lost cause. It is becoming to much of...
MissKathleen comments on Apr 24, 2019:
This is a test, it is only a test.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
Gosh, i really hope so.
If anyone finds the frog ? -your a special kind of person
altschmerz comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm really trying to find the frog here ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
He must think the frog is in her throat and he's trying to kill it. It cannot end well.
Do scientific and religious explanations necessarily contradict each other?
gearl comments on Apr 24, 2019:
In early Mesopotamian mythology, the world was portrayed as a flat disk floating in the ocean with a hemispherical sky-dome above, and this forms the premise for early world maps like those of Anaximander and Hecataeus of Miletus. During the 3rd century BC, Hellenistic astronomy established the ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
I think it was incorrect to translate the word as 'sphere'. To the best of knowledge, the correct translation is 'circle' and should be understood as a flat circle with two side pillars where the firmament was locked into place over it.
Do scientific and religious explanations necessarily contradict each other?
DonaldHRoberts comments on Apr 24, 2019:
The real problem with science and religion is they both, all to often, contradict themselves and each other which lends to the statement, The truth is always the truth. If something is true there are no variations. All other adaptations are suspect and most likely fabricated. There are no ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@William @Donald I wonder is there objective truth either in our world or out in the great beyond. I had come to the conclusion that truth of any matter was the total aggregation of opinions on the topic - a Hegelian way of thinking that may not be correct but it sure keeps me calmer about opposing ideas. I'm suspicious of Hegel's thinking because so many stupid ideas would also end up in the mix. But what about objective truth on the cosmic level? If the cosmos is conscious, would it recognise certain things to be self-evident? Maybe, or maybe its only interest is in Being.
Do scientific and religious explanations necessarily contradict each other?
skado comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Depends entirely on how you interpret them. When science can get over its squeamishness about studying human psychology and symbolic imagery, it will find religion to be completely in line with a scientific understanding of human nature.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
I see the two sides of the coin happening these days and I'm really happy about it. From the scientific side, I enjoy Jordan Peterson explain religious ideas in terms of psychology and on the other side, I watch a lot of videos by a Greek Orthodox Christian named Jonathan Pageau who is an icon carver and explains psychological symbols in Christian terms. He also explains the symbolism of modern movies like Logan, Spirited Away and Star Wars.
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
brentan comments on Apr 23, 2019:
I dread to think of a world where lefties are allowed to dictate what we can and cannot say on a discussion forum. They are just a new version of religious zealots insisting on the virtues of their perspective on life.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ronnie40356 I'm an agnostic. I was born Catholic and spent many of my adult years as a Jehovah's Witness.
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
brentan comments on Apr 23, 2019:
I dread to think of a world where lefties are allowed to dictate what we can and cannot say on a discussion forum. They are just a new version of religious zealots insisting on the virtues of their perspective on life.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
I used to be and the terminology is too deep in me at this stage to be dragged out.
ISIS bombed two christian churches in Shri-Lanka killing 300 because a white supremacist bombed two ...
Axlefoley comments on Apr 24, 2019:
End religion and you will end this sort of violance.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
I wonder. I think hatred is the root of the problem and religion, race etc are just toools used to express the hatred. It must come across very pessimistic but I think if one tool is removed, another will be put in its place.
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
Triphid comments on Apr 23, 2019:
Oh Dear Poster, would you like a box of tissues perhaps? We do NOT hate Muslims as people, we just object VERY Strongly to their Arcane, Archaic, often Inhumane Belief system just as we do with all other religions. Islam, just like Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc, etc, is NOT an ...
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@OwlInASack Which echo-chamber a person might be in is not the issue here. The issue is whether a person can leave their echo-chamber temporarily to move into general discussion and start telling everybody how things should be, who should be allowed to speak and who should be expelled from the general forum.
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
brentan comments on Apr 23, 2019:
I dread to think of a world where lefties are allowed to dictate what we can and cannot say on a discussion forum. They are just a new version of religious zealots insisting on the virtues of their perspective on life.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@OwlInASack I'm defending free speech against the bullying tactics of people who think their values trump everything. Your comment about me in particular was just pulled out of your backside and has no relevance to me.
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
brentan comments on Apr 23, 2019:
I dread to think of a world where lefties are allowed to dictate what we can and cannot say on a discussion forum. They are just a new version of religious zealots insisting on the virtues of their perspective on life.
brentan replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@FreethoughtKaty How on earth would you know?
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
brentan comments on Apr 23, 2019:
I dread to think of a world where lefties are allowed to dictate what we can and cannot say on a discussion forum. They are just a new version of religious zealots insisting on the virtues of their perspective on life.
brentan replies on Apr 23, 2019:
That's another example of secular self-righteousness.
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
Hastur comments on Apr 22, 2019:
I share your distaste for the sickening hate that's been on this site lately and I don't agree with his post on Muslims but he has every right to say it. I've seen sweeping hate statements made against Christians on this site. Why is one tolerated and the other labeled Islamaphobia?
brentan replies on Apr 23, 2019:
@Hastur I must have expressed myself very badly. I completely agree.
Show me signs..
snytiger6 comments on Apr 23, 2019:
If god was all knowing... why would he need them to mark their doorways with lambs blood? It seems to be a carry over from an older "blood magic" religion.
brentan replies on Apr 23, 2019:
I think it's about involving the people, getting them to be aware of what's going on and their complicity in it.
@admin Seeing @jacar ‘s post in Politics on’Muslims’ I really would like to know what is ...
Hastur comments on Apr 22, 2019:
I share your distaste for the sickening hate that's been on this site lately and I don't agree with his post on Muslims but he has every right to say it. I've seen sweeping hate statements made against Christians on this site. Why is one tolerated and the other labeled Islamaphobia?
brentan replies on Apr 23, 2019:
@Hastur I wouldn't call this post confronting someone's opinion in a thread. This is about control of free speech on a public forum. Not to mention attempting to silence someone permanently because they don't pass your test of what's virtuous.
What is the difference between "makers" and "takers" in the economy?
Novelty comments on Apr 23, 2019:
I refuse to use the word "earned" to describe business owners that keep telling hard working people that they're poor because they're lazy and don't work enough, those are the very people that do all the work. Entitled rich don't get to brag about how hard they work when their money comes from the ...
brentan replies on Apr 23, 2019:
One of the most depressing things for me was to see the new lords of technology treat their employees far worse than the traditional bosses.
Today is Shakespeare's birthday, may his works be long remembered as doing so has given him the ...
cava comments on Apr 23, 2019:
If someone is remember 1000 yrs from now Shakespeare is a likely candidate, it is however uncertain that he wrote all the plays & poems attributed to him, some say Marlowe and others Amelia Bassano Lanier.
brentan replies on Apr 23, 2019:
Shame on them all - Derek Jacobi and Mark Rylance included!
Don't be a slave to religion..
brentan comments on Apr 22, 2019:
I try, Charlene......God knows I try.
brentan replies on Apr 22, 2019:
Forgive me, Charlene for I have sinned.
"In our obscurity - in all this vastness - there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to ...
WilliamCharles comments on Apr 22, 2019:
And sometimes it's hard not to be overwhelmed with "compassion fatigue." There's so many things to fret over, it is almost paralysing.
brentan replies on Apr 22, 2019:
Yes indeed. There's something very likeable about succinctness.

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