Check out my new logo for my site! These are just concepts but will look the same once I get the ...

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

I've always thought a stoned toad would make a great logo for a marijuana business. I smoked a lot of that stuff as a teenager, and always felt like a stoned toad, under its influence.

In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA A BIT old but relevant...

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

CIA: It's only money! And it's not our money!

In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA A BIT old but relevant...

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

Not overly odd. I seem to recall that, during the civil war in Angola, the US was supporting two different rebel groups, who were actively fighting one another.

I've been hiking two hours a day early in the morning in the desert valley below my hilltop housing ...

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

I too, like to take early morning walks, and check out all the critters!

Read a good book yesterday and wanted to pass it along.

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

"Ivy Leaguers" are much overrated. Theirs are "prestige degrees", and are in no way indicative of their intellect. I've had a few "Ivy League" profs., and wasn't too impressed by them.

She made a truthful statement. Why is she being castigated? [salon.com]

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

Because Mossad, and AIPAC ordered she be castigated.

TRUMP USA Internally and on the world stage, the US is in turmoil as never before.

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

I think TrumpOrg oughta merge with the Scientologist's SeaOrg. Then they can be wingbats together!

Just getting ready for a bit of England v Italy in the 6 Nations.

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

They are designed to rouse childhood memories of one's parents. The public, in all countries, are raised to think of their national government as a parental figure (e.g. the "Fatherland", the "Mother" country, "Daddyland", etc.). So, a national anthem must be designed to arouse subconscious memories of one's parents. (That's my theory anyways).

An Open Letter to Ilhan Omar, the Lioness Who Entered the Halls of Hyenas [ghionjournal.

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

My only response is, what did she say that wasn't/isn't true?

Trump.

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

Trumpy is just trying to woo Jewish voters. And I don't think even the Weekly World News would hire him. He doesn't know how to read or write well enough!

Most Trump Supporters portrayed as stupid and gullible.

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

The American bourgeoisie can be broken down into two competing factions. The extremely naive, represented by the Donkey Party, and the extremely stupid, or Elephant Party. The two-party system we have is designed so that 'third parties' don't have a rat's chance of obtaining political power. Therefore, the electorate is forced to choose between the two. I don't consider the electorate to be blamed for a lack of choice between the idiotic, and the absurd.

Darwin came out with "On the origin of species" 160 years ago.

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

Fear of death. Most humans can't accept the inevitability of death. So they cling to their religious beliefs, in the hope of an 'after-life'.

As life-long member of the American middle class and a 30 year veteran teacher, I have a question?

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

There is no 'middle class'. Never has been one. In a capitalist society, all work is done by the working class (or 'proletariat'). All wealth is the product of Labor. When the capitalists start 'outsourcing', only the capitalist class ('bourgeoisie') is to blame. The attitude of the bourgeoisie is "So, vote with your feet!", meaning workers should move to another part of the country, if they don't like things. The anarchist, Emma Goldman, had a different view. She told workers: "Ask them for work. If they won't give you work, ask them for bread. If they won't give you bread, then TAKE the bread!".

President Trump autographed Bibles for survivors of the Alabama tornado outbreak - Chicago Tribune

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

He doesn't read books. So he doesn't know you don't sign on the cover.

Two cops not charged with rape after having sex with a person in their custody.

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

I took a criminal justice class once.And each week, a cop from a nearby department, came in and give a recruiting speech. One guy advised the students that, if ever they applied for a cop job, and in response to the question "Why do you wanna be a cop?", they should respond "Because I wanna have power over others!". This is actually considered the 'correct' response, because, as the cop recruiter put it: "Everybody wants ta have power over others! Right?" Personally, I'd like to see police departments disbanded. Modern police departments have only been around for 150 years or so. But, in the US anyways, they have become way over-militarized. In their place, I'd like to see Public Safety Departments--no badges, no "ranks",-- and they'd serve as firefighters, EMT techs,as well as normal police duties. They would also serve as school crossing guards, and clean bird crap off picnic tables. They would shovel snow, serve as dogcatchers,and pick up litter along the roads. No uniforms, and no guns, unless absolutely necessary. And sidearms, when issued, would be limited to revolvers, since they tend to get trigger-happy when issued large capacity semiautomatic pistols. (They also tend to shoot themselves in the foot more often with the semiautos).

This may not be news to American members, but it should be interesting to the rest of us, Did ...

davknight comments on Mar 9, 2019:

American Indians never got beyond making things out of copper. If they had been given a few hundred years' respite from European colonization, they might have begun making bronze.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one

davknight comments on Mar 8, 2019:

Stupid is forever. But ignorance can be fixed!

Any pro-wall atheists out there?

davknight comments on Mar 8, 2019:

I view both the 'Wall' and 'open borders' as stupid.

Sin Cities

davknight comments on Mar 8, 2019:

Las Vegas and Atlantic City?

Why are people so quick to judge?

davknight comments on Mar 8, 2019:

Because the Orange Don has made childish name-calling 'nouveau chic'.

U.

davknight comments on Mar 8, 2019:

As 1970s W German college kids used to say: "Peace and Napalm!"

Scotland has Nessie but that's nothing compared to the stuff people are reporting in the US of A.

davknight comments on Mar 8, 2019:

They forgot the Trumpopottamus!

Do you call it soda or pop?

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

We called it 'pop' too. But the very word brings to mind a mentally retarded woman I used to help care for, fifteen years ago. She was actually addicted to pop; and we had to keep her pop locked up in a refrigerator, out in the garage. In lieu of her often violent behavior, we weren't supposed to give her any unless she behaved herself. The first few times I worked with her, she would follow me around, yelling "POP!POP!POP!POP!POP!POP!POP!" until my eardrums nearly burst. She thought I was a sucker, and would give in easily. However, with a great deal of patience, and fortitude on my part, I managed to make her understand that whether she got any pop, depended on her behavior. Gradually, we reached an understanding!

Pharma & Insurance Gave $43M to the 130 House Democrats Not Backing Medicare for All.

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

I would like to see the entire private healthcare system abolished!

How does one deal with an asshole?

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

Ignore them, and they clam up tight!

U.S. Trade Deficit Hits Highest Level in History at $891.3B | Fortune

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

Trump: "I am the King of Debt!"

10 Unforgettable Michigan Views | Midwest Living

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

Spectacular views!

What do agnostics say instead of "Thoughts and Prayers"?

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

Probably "Best Wishes"

Anyone heard about the Virginian who was protesting in Saudi Arabia and was electrocuted during ...

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

Trump: "But they're buyin lottsa jets n stuff!"

High School Students Shovel Woman's Driveway At 4:30 AM So She Can Make It To Dialysis Treatment

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

Kudos to these kids!

What is your favorite word or phrase quirk?

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

"Wingbat" is a term I use to describe Trump and his fan club. I took the 'wing' from wingnut, and the 'bat' from dingbat, and put the two together.

After graduating from university with a rather good degree, my eldest son has struggled to find ...

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

In the blue-collar, factory town I grew up in, we called job-hunting "hitting the bricks". Which means one just has to be perserverant. If you hit the bricks long enough, something will turn up.

Philly Taco Bell Workers Fired After Video of Center City Attack Surfaces - NBC 10 Philadelphia

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

They've always had lousy food. But I didn't know the service was this bad.

I had to deal with having (and keeping) security clearances for about half my working career as a ...

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

But the POTUS doesn't know how to read. So he needs someone around to read the 'secret instructions' for using the big, red button on his desk!

What Do TV Pundits Mean When They Say Democrats Should Move to the Middle? WTF is the Middle?

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

I think they mean the Dems should act less extreme, in order to get the votes to throw out Trumplerism.

I really don't know why we keep celebrating Christopher Columbus when he was clearly a Johnny come ...

davknight comments on Mar 7, 2019:

Celebration of Columbus comes from Italian-Americans who, when they arrived, saw Irish-Americans celebrating St. Patrick's Day.So the Italian-Americans gave us Columbus Day. I view it as one of those harmless ethnic celebrations, similar to the small-town 'founders day' events, that were once popular. I can remember when Michigan towns founded by Finns, would break out in Finnish flags, towns founded by Swedes would break out in Swedish flags, etc., once a year, to celebrate their founding, as well as ethnicity. All harmless fun. And to be expected in what I call a 'settler country', that is, a country where most of the population originally came from somewhere else.

"Yes, I did say I love avocados. Why do you ask?"

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

Ernest Hemingway wallpapered his bathroom with rejection slips.

Now that's going to be interesting... be sure to not miss the Easter Egg Hunt this year.

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

Better wear some strong latex gloves!

Evolution :)

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

Actually, there are four distinct kinds of skulls--Caucasoid, Negroid, Mongoloid, and Australoid. It is how archaeologists, and forensic anthropologists determine the race of human skeletal remains. There are also numerous hybrids of the above.

How many Stroh's beer drinkers here?

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

Never liked Strohs. I was more of a Guiness man in my drinking days.But I did read the autobiography of Peter Stroh's daughter ("Beer Money", by Frances Stroh), which contains a lot of interesting history of the Strohs Brewing Company. Also, what it was like growing up in Grosse Pointe Farms.

‘I am dreaming of a way to kill almost every last person on earth’: A self-proclaimed white ...

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

I am DOG. The Great and Powerful. And on the Seventh Day of the Apocolypse, seven angels will blow seven eggplants each.And seven cauliflowers will loose seven trumpet blasts each. And out of each trumpet blast will emerge seven Trumps. From whicheth burst forth seven gusts of intestinal gas each. And the unrighteous will be smothered with the vengeance of Dog!

Those Self-regulating Market Forces at Work Again.

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

"Free enterprise" is an old euphemism for piracy. So too, is "Commerce",which is a French word for piracy.

If wealth was the result of hard work . . .

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

Real work is measured in ergs. An erg is the amount of energy spent by one beetle in climbing a wall one centimeter in height. By that measure, the people who do the hardest manual labor would earn the most ergs. Real value is measured in the time spent in making a particular product.early socialists argued for what they called the 'Labor Wage', whereby one would be 'paid' in 'time credits', which could be exchanged for products. Example: A typical automobile has around 1,800 hours of labor that goes into it. Therefore, you'd work 1,800 hours; and be able to buy a new car. By the Labor Wage, those who worked the most hours would be able to buy the most stuff. Under either system, the average worker would be getting a fairer deal.

Open discussion: The evolution of Jesus based on the influence from the history of Church Councils.

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

The 'Lost Gospels' make for interesting reading. Most of them have been collected together in the "Gnostic Bible".One of them says that Adam and Eve had a daughter, with whom Abel, and Seth had incest with, to begat the multitudes. And most of them, to me anyways, make Jeshua look like a schizophrenic cult leader.

Do u think Christianity is bad ? What's your opinion on it

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

Christianity has one redeeming feature. Every 25th of December, the Christians are relatively nice to each other!

The Movement To Skip The Electoral College Just Passed A Major Milestone | FiveThirtyEight

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

We need to get rid of the Senate too! We don't need a House of lords!

Growing up did you ever take piano lessons or other instruments and how good were you?

davknight comments on Mar 6, 2019:

My earliest memories are of hearing accordion music emanating from Polish households, violins playing in Hungarian households, Country music playing from Southern households, and Elvis playing from households that had teenagers.The only thing I learned how to play was a plastic bugle, on which I practiced the cavalry calls I'd hear on tv westerns.

Who knows what our world would be like if we weren’t such greedy fucking barbarians?

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

The equitable distribution of surpluses has been one of Humanity's biggest problems since the founding of civilization, 12,000 years ago.

Racism - social problems are escalating world wide regarding refugees & immigrants.

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

Overpopulation should be the major concern. There were approx 155 million people in the U.S.when I was born. There are now around 330 million, and ours is the third most heavily populated country in the World.If we don't wish to overtake India, or even China, we are going to have to put a damper on all immigration, legal and illegal alike. 'Open borders' is a suicidal concept.

Half of the today worlds problems started when a French and a British sat across a table and started...

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

Where the geographics, and the demographics don't match up, conflict generally results.

I look at this thing and know daym well I couldn't finish it: a 2 pound taco offered by a local ...

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

Anyone know of a place that sells Gyros that big?

Kellyanne Conway's husband calls for impeachment George Conway If proven, such an attempt to ...

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

There are some strangely mis-matched couples out there! Would the feminists care to explain how him and Kellyanne manage to stay married???

What are people's thoughts on psychedelics?

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

LSD makes one view reality in a whole different light. Mescaline makes one laugh at authority. And psilocyn makes little bunny rabbits look like great big bunny rabbits. All have a 'subversive' effect on young, restless minds.

Fact-checking Donald Trump's two-hour speech at CPAC | PolitiFact

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

Only fifteen lies? I'm surprised!

Your favorite line from Monty Python?

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

"We don't have any Kings around here! This is an anarcho-syndicalist commune!" (from "In search of the Holy Grail").

The surveillance cameras are better on Mars.

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

Nah! The wee folk who reside under the rocks , are brisk as bees, and are too fast to be caught on surveillance cameras!

How could middle income people afford to travel to Marz on Elon's space fleet?

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

I predict that 80 years from now, interplanetary shuttles full of drunken college kids,will be flying there to get drunker n stupider!

Iceland Declares All Religions Are Weapons Of Mass Destruction | Andrew Hall

davknight comments on Mar 5, 2019:

I just knew that one day, the U.S. would be thinking of a reason to invade Iceland.After all, they've got that there "socialismic" medicine, they've got free hot water, schools of "red" herrings swimming around the place, and now this!

Where I come from, a lot of people go to church on Sundays and Wednesday nights.

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

Let me guess? Twice on Sunday, and once on Wednesday? And they shake you down for "offerings" three times per service?

Church of the stunned chicken....

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

In what town can we see this deified fowl? I'll bet the locals use it as a landmark. Marietta, GA used to have a chicken restaurant in the middle of town. And on the roof, was a giant, wooden chicken. The locals would reference their "Big Chicken" when giving directions--"1 mile north of the Big Chicken. 2 miles south of the Big Chicken". Etc.

These damn ecigs make me cough more than a regular cig.

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

Join a stop smoking class. I did, and it worked. I've been smoke-free since 2014.

This must be the right place to ask this question.

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

In Colonial, and Early America, corncobs were used for that purpose. The Chinese are believed to have invented toilet paper in the 6th century A.D.. Modern, rolled toilet paper was patented in 1883.

God created humankind. Hmm... Who created God?

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

I AM DOG. THE GREAT AND POWERFUL. AND I CREATED EVERYTHING WHICH CREEPETH, WALKETH, SWIMETH, OR FLYETH UPON THE EARTH! AND I DID IT ALL IN SEVEN DAYS!

A staple of my youth

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

He had a special knack for making lousy weather seem more bearable.

Teachers, their salaries, and only working a partial year.

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

I think ALL people with college degrees need to be paid in accordance with their educational level. Not just teachers.

What are your thoughts on "white privilege?

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

"White" privilege? Or class privilege? Wealth and power are synonymous. "White" privilege implies all, or most, White people are rich. This is not remotely the case. Therefore, "White" privilege is a false concept. While class privilege is, unfortunately, the reality.

Dear Donald, We're Letting You Go: America's Final Letter to Trump | Opinion

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

Dear Orange Stupid--You're FIRED!

American Military Dominance In One Staggering Chart

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

Military "dominance" cannot be measured by money spent. Keep in mind the Americans pay $500 for potty seats, $8,000 for Allen wrenches, and an average of $7,500 per DAY, per person, to keep troops abroad. The U.S. military has a tremendous capacity to generate violence. But that is mostly of the thermonuclear variety. The U.S. Army, and Marine Corps can only field about 60% of the ground combat troops they had in South Vietnam, at the height of the Vietnam War. They are ridiculously expensive in upkeep, and small in the number of ground combat troops they can actually field. That would put them at a serious disadvantage in a real-war scenario with China, or the Russian Federation.

Can cannibis cure cancer, yes or no?

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

I think most of the healthcare industry in the U.S. is a scam!

Why he's a stable genius!

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

I wanna see his IQ test results!

Humanity First! Universal Basic Income: $1,000/mo for all.

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

What, with inflation, better make that $2,000 a month!

'Underwear dates well': how fashion forensics are helping solve crimes | Global | The Guardian

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

It would be a good way for historical archaeologists to date excavation levels in landfill sites. A hundred years from now, a team of researchers are excavating a landfill, and all of a sudden, they start turning up bell-bottom trousers and tie-dyed tee-shirts, they'll know they've reached the 1970s. A little further down, and they start turning up women's girdles, with the garter clasps, and they know they've hit the 1960s. Mickey Mouse hats and coonskin caps, the 1950s, and so on. The same goes for consumer fads, like transistor radios, and hula hoops.

I have a question to members of this group.

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

In the U.S., Native American remains are protected by NAGPRA, the Native American Graves Protection Act, which stipulates that they must be re-interred by the nearest tribe. Many forensic anthropologists argue that they need time to examine them. This causes friction with the tribes (e.g. the "Kennewick Man' controversy of twenty-plus years ago). Still others argue over who the remains should be returned to, pointing out that Native American tribes seldom lived in the same area for longer than 100-150 years. So, someone in Arizona finds remains.And they date back 5,000 years. Do they go to the Dine (Navajo)? The Apache?, the Hopi? (None of whom were living there 5,000 years ago). NAGPRA, as written, probably needs to be re-written.

I remember trying to break these in half, didn't always work out , sometimes I got three pieces.

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

Do they still make those make-your-own popsickle kits?

Late 60's had some good tunes.

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

#18

Great Lakes, USA Link: [vividmaps.com]

davknight comments on Mar 4, 2019:

Cool map!

A Child In Idaho Has Contracted The First Local Case Of Bubonic Plague In Nearly 30 Years | ...

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

It's also native to the mountainous steppe regions of the wild, wild west. Prairie dogs are known to carry the microbe.

Irresponsible and utter stupidity. And you thought trump was bad ....

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

A Pence presidency won't last long. His will be as short, and uneventful,as that of Gerald "Whoopsy" Ford.

I was diagnosed with Asperger's just a few years before they eliminated it as being separate from ...

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

I'm a self-diagnosed 'aspie'. I learned about it 12 years ago, took an online test, and passed with flying colors. My only regret was it took me so long to find out I was Vulcan!

Which one or more is/are likely in 2020 presidential elections?

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

All, or most of the above!

Vicar caught 'watching porn, sniffing cocaine, and using a crack pipe' | Metro News

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

As teenagers, we used to break into the basement of a local Catholic church. You'd be amazed at all the porn magazines, and porn movies, we used to find down there. But we were just there to pillage all the wine and booze!

Ilhan Omar poster sparks outrage, physical altercation in W.

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

Just another Trumplerite having a childish tantrum!

Oregon Now Has Statewide Rent Control, Push Continues Across Country – Next City

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

This should be done in conjunction with a tax on rental income. A landlord tax could be levied to build housing for the homeless. And rent controls would be in place, to keep rents affordable for the poor, and prevent them from being raised.

I guess being President is the next best thing to being a god. (Or is it?)

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

What do you wanna bet that Orange Dumbo has made arrangements with a cryogenics firm to have himself frozen after death?

Inside the Chaotic Early Days of Trump’s Foreign Policy - POLITICO Magazine

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

I didn't know he had a foreign policy?

At what age did you realize that most adults were complete idiots?

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

Eleven or twelve.

Fordham confirms that Trump team threatened the school if his grades became public - MarketWatch

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

We wanna see his IQ test results, his psychiatric exam, and his tax statements! We already know he flunked kindergarten!

Pyramid of White Supremacy. Thought this may be helpful.

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

Graphic looks like it came from a university campus. I spent six years in a university. They like to call it 'Academia'. But I took to calling it 'Macadamia', like the nut. Because you meet a lot of nuts in Macadamia!

This must be the right place to ask this question.

davknight comments on Mar 2, 2019:

We did like the bears, n wiped our butts on trees!

What do you think will happen if Trump won't leave the WH when he loses in 2020?

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

Of course, he could be trapped in a drainpipe by an enraged mob!

What do you think will happen if Trump won't leave the WH when he loses in 2020?

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

He will be dragged out, bellowing like an indignant hippo, by the US Marshals Service.

I find it interesting how some small, rural, hard-scrabble southern towns like the one I grew up in ...

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

There are many! Only Rand-McNally doesn't put them on their road maps anymore.

Pyramid of White Supremacy. Thought this may be helpful.

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

Self-hate is not a good thing.

What words of wisdom have you picked up throughout your life that you think is important enough to ...

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

Perseverance is the most important Human quality. Don't read books. They are bad for your eyes. Don't ask me what I think of you. I might not give the answer that you want me to. Everybody's fecal matter stinks. Try to learn something new every day. Try to do a good deed every day. Try not to eat anything with sugar in it. Try not to eat anything made with white flour.(It turns into sugar when you digest it). When you find love, keep, and cultivate it. For you may never find it again.

Meep Meep...

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

Yeah! But will he still be there, when I get back from Home Depot with the Acme Dynamite Kit?

He's BOTH, trust me!?

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

The Orange Don is an amateur, small-time, wannabe Mob boss. Those other three guys are in the big time!

Good questions to make Christians doubt their beliefs?

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

Why do Humans have tail bones?

Someone forged a Nobel Peace Prize nomination of Trump, Norwegian officials say [wapo.st]

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

We bet 'John Baron' forged it!

Check this shit out. [wired.com]

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

As teens, back in the '70s, we found that both weed, and hashish went well with Canadian beer.

Just thought I'd share a picture I took this morning.

davknight comments on Mar 1, 2019:

Yup! That's a Michigan winter scene I remember well! I once took a "short cut" to school across a field like that. But, as I trudged further, the snow got deeper n deeper. Until it was deeper than I was tall (talk about a Charlie Brown moment!). Needless to say, I got to school 20 minutes late, which was a first for me. But it did teach me a lesson about "short cuts"!