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i am told i was born. i believe that.

okay i'll reveal a tad more. i'm not a secretive person. it's just that i am kind of working on an autobiography and i don't want to reproduce it here.

i am owned by two elderly cats, one kitten, one dog and a man. the dog and the man are not yet housebroken.

i'm a writer. i always have been and i always will be.

i'm an ethnic/cultural jew and i also like a lot of the humanistic characteristics of the . my being an atheist isn't a dealbreaker there, not for me, not for judaism either, oddly enough. but mostly i like lox and klezmer music.

christians baffle me. i apparently also baffle christians.

hey i have a new hobby! i like to bust scammers. it's easy, relaxing and rewarding.

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Questions. If I entered this site and were an interplanetary guest knowing nothing about ...
genessa comments on Jun 9, 2019:
why in the world would you get christianity as hailing from north america? it didn't originate there and it didn't first flourish there. it was in full bloom all over europe and south america by the time it got to north america. as for judging other religions, why do you think anyone here thinks christianity is the only religion? that's a pretty strange assumption. i'm jewish (and an atheist), myself. who here has said anything bad about dreamtime or buddhism or the druids or even zeus? (okay i have mentioned zeus from time to time.) your question makes assumptions based on facts not in evidence. g
In you mind, what are you first? Where would your ultimate affinity lie? An atheist/agnostic, ...
genessa comments on Jun 9, 2019:
it's circumstantial. i don't live by a label. i have several from which i can choose, which do not conflict with one another and sometimes do or don't have anything to do with one another, depending on what is needed. i'm just me. g
My wife is Chinese and studied all religious writings in International Literature Class. All ...
genessa comments on Jun 9, 2019:
i did not address the meat of your post, but corrected you on one point, because it was the one point on which an atheist or agnostic reading what you wrote might actually be convinced if they knew no better. the rest is fantasy. i am sure you're sincere and do not know it is fantasy; hallucinations can be very convincing... but generally only to the person who did the hallucinating. one thing is pretty certain: we are not all eternal, except in the memories of those whose lives we have touched. love is good. doing the right thing (whatever we may agree that is) is good. i've had dreams about my dead mom too; they were interesting and i like meeting her in my dreams, but i know that my dreams were dreams. mom's body is in the ground. there is nothing else of my mom that exists except for how she touched other people, including me. she isn't in heaven (or hell). there is no such place and there is no such thing as a "soul." none of this invalidates your experience; you really did have an interesting hallucination and it really did affect your life. that's fine. g
Religion in a relationship
genessa comments on Jun 9, 2019:
i am an atheist. my guy has a vague belief in a vague undefined god (when i ask him he gets mad but the last time i insisted and he thought for a minute and then confessed he believed in a god who created evolution.) we're both jewish -- yes, i still self-identify that way. funny thing about judaism -- they don't kick you out for not believing. the only thing that makes you an apostate from judaism is taking on another god. anyway, he hates my ag dot com tee shirt but it's not a dealbreaker. we've been together for 18 of the 19 years we've known each other and our commitment is for life, whatever we have left to us (we're both old farts). it's not a problem. if he gets too pissy about it i give him my best two words: "talking snake." that shuts him up. i imagine it would be different for a couple half of which was an evangelical christian. but i would never have dated one of those to begin with! g
As an atheist and raising my sons as such I found the philosophy Stoicism a fantastic alternative to...
genessa comments on Jun 9, 2019:
nope. i don't want to be an ic or an ist... atheist just describes my not believing in any gods and has no other attached philosophy. not so, stoicism. sometimes, not often, i am asked for my philosophy of life. i don't see why i should have to have one. can i not meet life's challenges (and joys) as i find them? i have a memory. i can learn what's poisonous, figuratively as well as literally, and what's beneficial, likewise. i think more or less logically, as limited by my species and how much sleep i've gotten (or not). i don't need to be recalculating constantly, not consciously anyway. g
Reddit - atheism - My boyfriend is a Christian and I'm agnostic. We tried to have a conversation ...
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
she keeps saying she respects his beliefs. does she respect his belief that she is "spiritually dead" and somehow in the wrong for being an agnostic? i'd be pissed off. she also said he respects her belief, or lack thereof. he quite obviously does not. g
Separating Facts About Clergy Abuse From Fiction
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
two and three are true. four is blatantly untrue. one is iffy; there have been individual cases in the clergy of all religions because the clergy are human, and humans do strange things, but catholic clerics are infamous and the massive coverup certainly speaks to the extent to which the problem is rampant specifically in that church. it isn't rampant among jewish clerics, and yes, there have been rabbis guilty of sexual abuse of children, just as there are people who aren't clerics of ANY religion guilty of that. too many christians, not necessarily clerics (and not necessarily catholic), have used their religion as the excuse for their offenses. no jewish laymen have done this. it's not built into the system. in the catholic church it appears to be built in, regardless of the above so-called facts. g
Do you like wearing tight clothes?
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
i don't even like wearing clothes! but that does look comfy. g
My wife is Chinese and studied all religious writings in International Literature Class. All ...
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
not ALL religions are based on the fear of hell. judaism isn't. g
Everybody is saying so...
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
this is funny. it's something trump could say -- i mean, he said the moon is part of mars, so who knows? however, as far as i can determine, it's not something he actually said. from the responses i see that this is being taken at face value, which means it is not properly presented as the satire it is. if someone has a source for trump's actually saying this, i wouldn't mind seeing it, but if y'all want to spread it around (as it IS funny) i'd comment "it's a joke, folks" or something, just to be sure. g
How do you debunk it when someone claims religion, no matter it's true or false' serves as an ...
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
first they need to give examples, since people making the claim have the burden of proof. of course people making such claims often deny that the burden of proof is on them, since common knowledge is an exception to that rule, and they share common knowledge -- of something that is patently false. you could ask for medical sources that back up their claim. they won't have them. then you can say that anything could serve as the psychological support or placebo, without burdening them with rules of behavior that might be harmful to them, or to others. you might also find a rental copy of "dumbo" and point out that in the end dumbo flies WITHOUT the feather. g
Patricia1199 (Sorry on phone) Very strange dubious questions. Syntax and English is odd. Porn star ...
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
the pic is a little suggestive but unlike most scammers of the sort who use such pictures, she claims to be here for the community. she also has odd posts but they're again not the kind usually made by scammers. female scammers usually post about love at first sight or claim to be looking for a good man who will love her for being independent and at the same time take care of her as if she's a little girl rofl rofl. well okay not everyone is the same, but her being foreign or at least typing as if she is doesn't make her a scammer. she doesn't respond to other people's posts (so far) and that's the oddest thing i can note about her. she's new. she may just be finding her legs here. (or she may be a scammer -- but i don't see evidence yet.) g
It pains me to block ladies. Women need to support each other.
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
alas, ignorance, stupidity and meanness know no gender divide. we SHOULD be supporting one another. as for editing... not only is each of us human and thus fallible and capable of making typos (proofreading fixes that) and not only are some of us literate and able to edit as well as mere proofreading, for those qualities you have mentioned and more, but ag dot com itself has been known to take a bite out of our posts, not by way of censorship but as a technical glitch i don't think even ag dot com yet understands. when i first got here, i found that my posts would end of without the word "to." it was neatly removed from every post, and a couple of spaces remained where it had been, perhaps to show me that i had not typoed. it was just plain weird. then it stopped. that was just plain weird too. i try not to criticize people for what might be a hungry ag dot com or even a mere typo, or even bad writing if it's still SOMEWHAT coherent, but man, when people rant and rave and aren't nice about it and get all personal... gender be damned, they're GONE from MY world! g p.s. i just had to edit this because "bad" writing came out "mad" writing! i considered leaving it. i kind of liked it. however, i really had meant "bad."
Beware of scammers in online dating. My dear fellow dreamers who are brave enough to lay their ...
genessa comments on Jun 8, 2019:
you may want to join this group https://agnostic.com/group/TrollsScammers and if this scammer was on ag dot com, share his name there so others can beware. g
Spirituality in Film & Literature
genessa comments on Jun 7, 2019:
neither. why is that the choice? my reaction is neither of those but a third option: i do NOT wish those most of things were real. i wish they would stop being written into supposedly realistic shows as if they WERE real, as if they were part of my culture (they're not -- tv assumes everyone is specifically christian, too). if it's a fantasy show, that could be different, depending on the assumptions. joan of arcadia was clever and made points that were not sappy religious ones, and the people in the shows, and their problems, were complex and real. touched by an angel (or as i call it, molested by an angel) on the other hand was just crap in every possible way and made assumptions about people's belief systems instead of presenting those elements as part of the fantasy. the angel was fantasy but all the pseudo-religious crap was presented as part of everyday reality and not part of the angel shtick. i ADORE doctor who, and i know there's no tardis, no gallifrey, no doctor, and YES i wish those things were real, but not to the extent that i am going to build a belief system around them lol. g
America's new religion!
genessa comments on Jun 7, 2019:
the only way to have a chance in hell of reaching a dimwit like this is to talk to her on her own terms. this being said, only two words have a chance in hell of reaching her: "golden calf." g
Am I being unreasonable?
genessa comments on Jun 7, 2019:
it is not nice to assume religion, even if not a specific religion, and impose it on a customer. is that a religious institution? is this part of the company's theme or logo? if she added it on her own, even if she put "have a nice day," it could be a violation of what the company thinks it stands for. she doesn't just get to add religion to a company product. so she is wrong in both directions, outward and inward. i think she needs to reread her bible (and i am assuming this would be the jesus bible, with which i am mostly unfamiliar) about praying at home and not making a show of it. g
R.I.P. Dr. John... another great one leaves the stage - I was lucky to see him at his peak. It was ...
genessa comments on Jun 7, 2019:
i didn't hear about it. this is the first i knew. i'm sitting here crying. g
Did you buy something and discover you have it at home?
genessa comments on Jun 7, 2019:
connect four. i thought i had lost my game and i bought a new one, cheaply of course, and came home to find i still had one. g
Speaking to family about religion
genessa comments on Jun 6, 2019:
i was raised in a secular jewish family (although i understand that until i was three we kept kosher; when the last great-grandparent who could care about that died, my mom turned to my dad and said she wasn't doing that anymore. he balked but a few years later he was happily eating mcdonald's cheeseburgers -- something i don't do, and it has nothing to do with religion!). we celebrated the holidays and had a strong cultural jewish identity but never talked about god. i don't remember a single conversation about that personage. when at age 15 i realized there were no gods, it never occurred to me to share this revelation with my folks. it didn't occur to me they're be interested. i told my best friend and found out she was an atheist too, but this was just like finding out we both liked broccoli, you know? many years later, as an adult, having moved to california, i called my folks (i think they were still in maryland but they might have moved to florida by then; i'm not certain) because someone asked me what they believed and i didn't know. my folks were surprised that i was calling long distance to ask such a weird question as "do you believe in god?" my mom said she wasn't sure but she thought she did. my dad said he wasn't sure but he thought he didn't. and that was the end of that! they didn't even ask me what i believed lol! g
How come Japan does so many things better?
genessa comments on Jun 6, 2019:
my cat used to flush the toilet and drink from the spout. he preferred it to his water dish. but japan doesn't do everything better. at least when i lived there (for a decade, but decades ago) consumers would buy a product in a plastic tub, throw the tub away and then go out and buy an empty tub for storing things. when i showed my friends how i reused those cottage cheese tubs and all, they were amazed at my absolute brilliance! they also never thought of making matzaball soup or chili in a rice cooker. g
Listen to the lady, dork
genessa comments on Jun 6, 2019:
... and is also in better physical and mental shape. g
Do you get tired of large packages of food?
genessa comments on Jun 6, 2019:
nope. i'll tell you why i don't. i separate and freeze too, and the effort is well worth it. even if it's ONE thing i repackage smaller. g
Dipshit praises vegas shooter?! Called him a genus and a smart gambler. Can someone please get this ...
genessa comments on Jun 6, 2019:
why can't you copy the link? g
The great “dick” debate I keep having this ONE person telling me I’m sexist because I use...
genessa comments on Jun 6, 2019:
it might be sexist but i think i can make a case for its being nonsexist in the context you mention. it is okay to have a dick and having one in and of itself doesn't make one a bad person, but using it inappropriately and even as a weapon is a very real technique used by many of its owners. rape is not the only way to weaponize a dick; merely being the owner of one can entitle a person to a higher salary than someone doing the same work without owning a dick, or to condescend to dickless people. it's not just possible; it's common. so again, being the owner of a dick doesn't guarantee a person is a jerk, but there is a difference between HAVING a dick and BEING a dick. you are not calling people dick-owners. you're calling them dicks. that's different. g
OH GOD NOOOOOO [radiotimes.com]
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
rumors about rumors about rumors about rumors. what i want to know isn't whether rose is coming back but whether doctor who is coming back. g
Today I am thankful for the churches. Living in an area that was wrecked by tornadoes this week as a...
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
it is good that you have loving people around. they tend to gather in their churches so that's where they are when they organize aid. it isn't really a matter of their religion, or they would be the only ones, but muslims and jews and atheists are helping elsewhere, as needed, too, and not just themselves but each other. if people tended to gather in supermarkets instead, we'd be saying, wow, those supermarkets are helping out a lot. g
I had an experience this weekend that made me consider that there may be a God and he must hate me....
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
well, actually, the incident, awful as it is, and you have my sympathy, does not prove there is no god, and it also does not indicate that there is a god who hates you. it does not indicate anything at all about any gods. it indicates that something happened, for example someone didn't wash their hands before processing your food. g
A couple of times, in the movie, "Religulous," Atheist, Bill Maher, is asked, "What if you're ...
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
if i am wrong -- which i feel so certain i am not that this is merely a thought exercise, not a plan -- consider the following: 1. if there is a god (singular) and it's a good god, it doesn't care whether i believed in it. 2. if there is a bad god i'm screwed anyway because a bad god is going to enjoy punishing me whether or not i've misbehaved, and not everyone agrees on what is good or bad behavior anyway. 3. if there is a heaven and all good people go there and we meet all our loved ones again, what if someone loves you but you don't love that person; are you then stalked for eternity? and who chooses the music and the menu? if it's not me, i don't want to go. g
Did you know that if you enter, "Beatle," on any website, (or my browser,) that word will be ...
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
i just tried it. i googled beatle and the first listing was wikipedia's entry for the beatles. i received no indication of misspelling. i'm not sure why i would enter anything on most websites -- most websites are not search engines. but i took you to mean search engines and did not find what you seem to have found. g
Are you married to a believer?
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
i'm not married but i am living with my guy, have been for a while now, and he is a person who thinks there is a god. but there are people who are believers and it doesn't much influence their daily lives and other people who are believers and they can't take a poop without asking jesus first. jesus never did figure into either of our lives; we're both jewish, but i'm a jewish atheist and he's a jew who doesn't even know much about judaism but has a vague belief in some sort of creator (of evolution, i hasten to add; he's not a science denier per se; climate change is one of his hugest concerns and he hates trump). he doesn't like it when i wear my ag dot com tee shirt but he doesn't push the issue. on those rare occasions when the subject even comes up, i tell him i have two words for him: "talking snake." he doesn't know what i'm talking about because he has never read any part of anyone's bible. i am not trying to get him to stop believing in his god but i did spend some time trying to figure out what kind of god he believed in, and he was not at first forthcoming. finally, recently, he confessed that he believes in a god who created evolution. that's all he would say. i've heard worse! we're fine. it's not a big deal. g
We have a guy our company does business with today pray with me. Upstanding Christian in his ...
genessa comments on Jun 5, 2019:
you do what feels right to you but i would not have come away from such a thing with positive feelings myself. he believes what he believes and he is entitled. but he decided that he would take a step toward changing what YOU do or do not believe. that is different. i would've found that offensive, and no, i am not just looking around to see what i can be offended about next. i try to give people the benefit of the doubt. but i've BEEN through stuff like this, and i find it at best unpleasant. i have posted about a recent experience of mine in this general vein and i will try to find that and show you. g
Republicans threaten revolt, may block Trump's Mexico tariffs GOP senators left a closed-door ...
genessa comments on Jun 4, 2019:
they spent almost their ENTIRE LUNCH working on this? oh the feels! they may not be able to go home on thursday for their four-day weekend. i am sending them thoughts and prayers. g
What type of ship should Trump have named after him? It may be naval, merchant, utility, or ...
genessa comments on Jun 4, 2019:
he already has a ship named after him: dictatorship. g
I've posted this before but every time I do I get berated for doing so. I don't know how to accept ...
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
i don't know about christians and muslims. i can tell you that the jewish god, who is not named yahweh and whose name religious jews do not say (or print), is noncoporeal and has more than one gender (google "shekinah"). since there is no such thing as a god anyway, and since there are literally (at least) thousands of nonexistent gods in which various cultures believe, i don't know why you need to have one sense of what the word "god" should mean. it means different things to different people, just as "pretty" does, or "delicious," or "ugly." yes words are just sounds. no, that's not significant; they mean whatever we agree they mean, and people elsewhere agree on something different. it doesn't matter which side of the road you drive on but it matters very much that everyone reach an agreement and stick to the agreed-on side. that agreement saves lives. religion... not so much. but you're looking for something that doesn't exist. you will not find any satisfaction no matter what we say. this whole paragraph is made up of words. g
How to write holy texts 4 simple rules
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
the meme shows jews, specifically, which is odd, because fear is not actually a driving factor in modern judaism. yeah i know it's not modern jews being shown, but since biblical times fear has not been the driving factor. in additiion, the people in the picture didn't write the text either, and they also do not look frightened. they're arguing a point. look up "pilpul." christians use fear as the driving force. g
Is this the start of impeachment hearings? (I hope!) Dems to call Watergate star John Dean to ...
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
i think we've been HAVING impeachment hearings, which is good. we just have not decided to call them that yet. g
Feminist Wife Wants to be Dominated in Bed
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
i don't see being sexually submissive (or not) as an ethos. it doesn't conflict with feminism, which is humanism that includes female humans. how people like their sex is not a reflection of whether or not they think they should receive equal pay for equal work, or not be condescended to, or not be raped, or be able to fly airplanes or build bridges without getting, at best, "oh isn't she special!" our fantasies are formed long before we think of such things. it's not an ethos; it's what turns us on. i say "us" meaning women; not that it's anyone's business, but i like equal exchange in the bedroom, myself, not to be submissive OR dominant. that is in no way a judgment of other people's sexual tastes, and taste is what it is: not ethos. g
The question is, "Does the DNC really want to beat Trump?" [salon.com]
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
this is how i answered this in another group: no, the question is do WE really want to beat trump. we have control over whom we choose in the primaries. the problem is, we're worried about who is electable instead of who we think will be the best president. the media keeps telling us biden and sanders are the most electable, so those of us who worry about that will vote for them in the primaries, and that's not how it's supposed to work. i'm not saying you should not vote for one of them if you really like him; i'm saying that you should ONLY vote for one of them if that's who you really like, and not because you think that's who can get elected. whoever we all vote for will get elected. there are more of us than of them. if we all vote for the democratic candidate, that candidate will win and become president. if we pout and stay home or vote indie (or worse) because our pet candidate didn't win (and there are a lot of candidates; that's a lot of pets and thus a lot of potential pouting) then trump will win. that is why the republicussians are trying so hard to divide us. don't LET them. vote in the primaries for the person you think will make the best president. in the general, vote blue no matter who, and by the way, the senate is even more important than the white house. a fully blue congress can stifle a trump. a red senate can hogtie a democratic president. but hey, let's go for both, eh? we can do it, but not if we listen to stuff about how the dnc is doing it all wrong, or the neoliberals (who don't actually exist) are too bad to be in office, or how the media are not playing fair (partly true but we have brains, right?) just DO it. g
The question is, "Does the DNC really want to beat Trump?" [salon.com]
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
no, the question is do WE really want to beat trump. we have control over whom we choose in the primaries. the problem is, we're worried about who is electable instead of who we think will be the best president. the media keeps telling us biden and sanders are the most electable, so those of us who worry about that will vote for them in the primaries, and that's not how it's supposed to work. i'm not saying you should not vote for one of them if you really like him; i'm saying that you should ONLY vote for one of them if that's who you really like, and not because you think that's who can get elected. whoever we all vote for will get elected. there are more of us than of them. if we all vote for the democratic candidate, that candidate will win and become president. if we pout and stay home or vote indie (or worse) because our pet candidate didn't win (and there are a lot of candidates; that's a lot of pets and thus a lot of potential pouting) then trump will win. that is why the republicussians are trying so hard to divide us. don't LET them. vote in the primaries for the person you think will make the best president. in the general, vote blue no matter who, and by the way, the senate is even more important than the white house. a fully blue congress can stifle a trump. a red senate can hogtie a democratic president. but hey, let's go for both, eh? we can do it, but not if we listen to stuff about how the dnc is doing it all wrong, or the neoliberals (who don't actually exist) are too bad to be in office, or how the media are not playing fair (partly true but we have brains, right?) just DO it. g
Why do you use agnostic.com? I have learned a lot about myself using agnostic.com. What do I ...
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
i like it because, although there are proportionately just as many pugnacious punks and ignorant idiots here as on facebook, there are also proportionately just as many cool folks, and they're not the same cool folks i know on facebook, so i've expanded my reach and my reachability, both. in addition, very few people here say they're going to pray for me or tell me i'm going to hell, so that is cool too. (on facebook, i don't get that a lot either, because i've weeded such folks out of my life, but still. it's potentially more annoying on that level. i still hang out there. i can multitask, you know.) g
Lucky I didn't poke my eyes out with this game.
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
oh yeah for sure. i used to like this, though if i recall, i was rubbish at it. g
We all know they had a tv show back in the day, what other bands had their own tv shows? Another one...
genessa comments on Jun 3, 2019:
i don't remember the raiders having their own show. josie and the pussycats had an animated one. then there was the partridge family. out of all of them, the monkees had the best quality. g
I don’t believe in god, but I do think that there is something either spiritual or universal going...
genessa comments on Jun 2, 2019:
so which god don't you believe in, exactly? i mean you are entitled to believe as you will, but if you're going to share that info, then you're inviting questions and comments, right? my answer is that you cannot always find comfort. (mac and cheese is good, though.) not being able to find comfort is not a very logical case for spirituality, not that you need an excuse, but since you mentioned it.... g
Should atheists have to do jury duty? Will I be able to do my civic duty without placing my hand on ...
genessa comments on Jun 2, 2019:
there is no requirement to put your hand on a bible. every court lets you affirm, without any religious reference. g
What is your most creative or amusing use of a bungee cord?
genessa comments on Jun 2, 2019:
i don't know how creative or amusing this is, but when i first went to france, i had a couple suitcases and two working arms. a week and a half into the trip, i had an adventure, which i have written about, and to which i can link you but not right now, as i am still setting up my new computer, a whole 'nuther story, and that adventure resulted in my right arm's being broken, just below the shoulder, just where a reset would've been impossible. it just had to stay immobilized. so there i was traveling around with another six and a half weeks to go, and no way to transport my suitcases. i was staying in rennes, so i just popped on over to a rennish version of a five and dime and purchased a metal-and-vinyl upright rolling cart of the sort that people use to bring shopping, except this was lined in vinyl instead of open-grid with metal showing and no other protection. it didn't have so much as a snap to close its vinyl lid though, so i purchased a bungee cord or two and, having dumped the contents of one suitcase into it, bungeed the other suitcase to the top and literally singlehandedly went on my merry way. g
Peace of mind produces right values, right values produce right thoughts. Right thoughts produce ...
genessa comments on May 30, 2019:
it means think right, do right, work. it's a nice thought. thoughts like that do wobble on their platform of everyone's agreeing what "right" is and everyone's caring what "right" is. it is also the antithesis of "the best laid plans of mice and men...." g
What is the answer for your happiness? Or what answer can work for your love ones or for your gross ...
genessa comments on May 30, 2019:
no one actually knows the key to happiness, one reason being that there is no one single key that works for everyone. anyone who tells you they have the key to happiness is at best mistaken and at worst trying to sell you a bridge in arizona. g
One day will come.. when sex is normalized and money becomes obsolete.. that's when humanity unleash...
genessa comments on May 30, 2019:
no it won't. it really won't. g
WOODSTOCK REMEMBERED I was only 14 15 years old when the hippies came to NY for Woodstock. I ...
genessa comments on May 28, 2019:
memories, memories! my dad's boots went to woodstock (and never came back) but i didn't. his friend's son "borrowed" those boots and went. i wish i'd had the courage to defy my folks and go, but it would've been quite a trip. maryland isn't exactly next door to upstate new york. g
Woolworth's. We had one across the street from elementary school. When I had extra money, (about a ...
genessa comments on May 28, 2019:
i think black baby boomers remember woolworth's and its lunch counter a little differently from how nonback boomers do. at any rate, there was a mccory's, much like woolworth's, in our town plaza, very near our school and on my way home, not too far out of the way for my best friend, whose home was in the other direction, and the two of us used to go sit in a booth and each order a small bowl of pickles and a cherry coke -- all we could afford. the staff were eager for us to move on but we liked having a place to talk about life, the universe and everything. unfortunately, one afternoon some friends of my mom's were sitting a couple booths down and reported to my mom what we had said, and mom was NOT amused. also not amused was the cop who patrolled the store and didn't like our standing in the magazine aisle reading some of the teen mags. he was rude to use and ordered us to move on (i think he even tried to move us from the booth once, too, but had less success there, as we actually had paid for our fare and were still consuming it). he was a fine example of the nickname then current for cops: "pig." i have since met more nice cops than mean ones, and a few indifferent ones in situations in which they should not have been indifferent -- but then again, i am not a person of color, and my experience may well have been different, possibly even deadly, if i were. g
[myjewishlearning.com] Is there a Jewish afterlife after death - Ambiguous answers. Does this ...
genessa comments on May 28, 2019:
one of the rabbis at the temple i go to once in a while (high holidays if i am well enough, for example) once gave an interesting sermon based on that exact question. his conclusion: we don't know. g
Even those who don't believe in prayer can relate to the sentiment.
genessa comments on May 28, 2019:
it's funny but since i have never prayed in my life, since the picture shows a christian form of prayer and i have never been christian and since that particular prayer isn't part of my background, i don't identify with that method of wishing, nor with that method of celebrating. i do get it, though. quite frankly, i'd rather he live, and spend the rest of his life wearing a suit the color of his face, in a small room with no golden toilet (and no lid on the toilet he DOES have), and a big hunky horny cellmate. g
Does anyone else also make a point of readign books which have been banned at one time?
genessa comments on May 28, 2019:
no. i don't look up which books have been banned, when, why, or by whom. there would be a gazillion of them. sometimes i find out about such things as i go about my normal life, which involves a lot of research that could incidentally reveal such information. unless i have reason to be curious about a specific book, or about a specific banning entity, i don't go seeking these things. i have read books which, as it turns out, have indeed been banned, but not because they were banned. i read them because i was interested in them. if i was ever interested in a book and it turns out it was currently banned i might make an effort to read it, but i would be more likely to work toward unbanning it, whether or not i then read it. g
Me, tRump and a Louisville Slugger. Two men enter, one man leaves!!!!
genessa comments on May 28, 2019:
eww, you would have to have the bat fumigated! g
[forward.com] Bob Dylan's 10 most Jewish songs. Fascinating article. I met Bob Dylan in Israel ...
genessa comments on May 27, 2019:
haha just a side note but how can he be a born-again christian when he wasn't born a christian to begin with? anyway i try not to think about his religious proclivities because i like his music and his social conscience, if not his ego and misogyny. g
Last Sunday, the subject of the sermon was "The Lonely Atheist". As I slouched half-awake in the ...
genessa comments on May 27, 2019:
so in what way does realizing that the absence of gods make atheism bullshit? atheism is just the realization of the absence of god. it has nothing to do with whether or not that matters. oh, and by the way, none of that is a secret. g
I have no problem with the word “god” It is fun and nonsensical to get into an argument with ...
genessa comments on May 27, 2019:
i would have no problem with god meaning what you said if that is what god meant. however, it HAS a meaning, or meanings, already, and they are meanings that MEAN something to people -- people have feelings about those meanings. there is no use making up new meanings for old words that are so emotionally charged for those who care about them. every word is just a word. so what? you have a new meaning? find a new word. g
I was just thinking, have any of you read George Orwell's, "Animal Farm?" Things that went wrong, ...
genessa comments on May 27, 2019:
orwell knew whereof he spoke. he volunteered in the spanish civil war (against franco, naturally!) and saw it all coming. g
I Quit This Forum & will not return. I am not impressed with the quality of the membership & overall...
genessa comments on May 27, 2019:
this is not true. you are still posting here. g
Does this group do anything consrtuctive that benefits society?
genessa comments on May 27, 2019:
is the general and hello group SUPPOSED to do anything constructive that benefits society? or is that not what you mean by "group"? if you mean the entire site, yes, it does something constructive that benefits society in two ways. it benefits people who have a need to talk to other people not brainwashed by religion, and it benefits by extension those to whom our members then reach out. g
I'm curious about what people on this site feel about the simulation hypothesis. In all honesty, I ...
genessa comments on May 27, 2019:
i have never heard of the simulation hypothesis so i cannot comment on it, itself, but i can certainly wonder why one needs a belief system. having a belief system seems iffy in and of itself, regardless of what that system is. g
Answer This Question Honestly---- Who Had The Most POSITIVE Influence On People. Billy Graham or ...
genessa comments on May 26, 2019:
not most. more. you named two people. you use a comparative, not a superlative, when there are only two elements to the comparison. meanwhile, do you mean positive influence as in making individuals who followed them happy, or positive influence as in helping people become better people? and why those two outdated names, come to think of it? g
Although I am an Atheist my self I have to say that some of the most rude, inconsiderate, foul ...
genessa comments on May 26, 2019:
what's a rascist? someone who beleves in rasc? and if we're so rude (and you've said elsewhere that you quit) why are you still here? anyway, your experience is certainly not the same as mine in terms of who is more racist. foul-mouthed is another matter but that only bothers me when the so-called bad words are used AGAINST someone instead of for emphasis. do you think your posts against our characters are polite or considerate, then? hmm. g
It appears that we have No Black Members. My search proved futile. There must be Black Atheists ...
genessa comments on May 26, 2019:
i see black members here all the time. how were you searching -- for people who put "black" in their profiles? g
Did Billy Graham do anything that injured our society?
genessa comments on May 26, 2019:
i do not know much about him apart from his advising nixon, which makes him suspect already, but he fathered franklin graham, and the existence of that pest is a bane to society. meanwhile, how can you ask whether conversions to his brand of (or any brand of) christianity helped or hurt society? do you really not know? g
Copped this from Twitter
genessa comments on May 25, 2019:
when women run the world there won't be any posters of women who fit whatever the current standard of beauty is and run around doing their business in bikinis. when women run the world they will look like hillary clinton, maxine waters, alexandria ocasio-cortez and ruth bader ginsburg, and they will BE heads of state. g
Have you ever been annoyed by just the sight or voice of a person?
genessa comments on May 25, 2019:
only a few. there was a woman named kathy something selling cookware who had an extremely annoying voice, and there is currently a super-long commercial for some kind of wrinkle-remover that is narrated by a woman with a voice as irritating as can be. of course donald trump takes the cake, and then add content and he's impossible. g
Do you remember Cosmos with Carl Sagan?
genessa comments on May 25, 2019:
of course! i adore sagan. g
WHAT YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE -- Let me see if I have this straight. These are very simplified and ...
genessa comments on May 25, 2019:
"Jews believe in God but not in a divine Jesus. They're also not really down with the whole Heaven/Hell thing. They believe they were chosen by God because they best personify the moral and ethical behavior God demands." the last sentence is incorrect. the chosen people thing has a single source, and it is that (i am talking from within the jewish belief system now, not from my own belief) god offered abraham, and through him the jewish people, a covenant. abraham had a choice whether or not to accept the covenant. he accepted. i have always thought the term should be "choosing" rather than "chosen" but the "chosen" comes from the choice god made to offer the covenant to the jews. had abraham not accepted, presumably god would've gone on to his second choice. it is not about best personifying the moral and ethical behavior god demands. naturally, the follower of any religion follows that religion believing that is what god wants, so EVERY religion believes that god has chosen them because they best personify the moral and ethical behavior god demands. that is not unique to the jews and therefore cannot be what being the chosen people means. if that is what "chosen people" meant, every religion's followers would be, in its own view, the chosen people. i'll also add that "chosen people" in terms of judaism means that god gave extra commandments to the jews. i don't know why christians refer to the 10 commandments; jews have 613. i forget how many god demands of nonjews -- and the fact that they have fewer (WAY fewer) commandments, according to judaism, does not make jews superior. it makes them more obligated. g p.s. judaism also is not defined by NOT believing in the divinity (or necessarily the existence) of jesus (not his real name in any event). judaism is a lot older than christianity, and jesus, if he existed, was jewish.
Anybody else remember their Grandmothers dressing like this?
genessa comments on May 25, 2019:
sorta. one died before i was three, the other just as i was turning three. i remember the latter and her dress was a bit like that. i don't know whether the hairdo i remember her having was hers or a wig. i know her parents were orthodox; i don't know how religious she was. i know that when the last remaining orthodox grandparent (great0-grandparent of mine, i always assumed, as i heard this in retrospect) died, my mother turned to my father and declared that she would no longer keep a kosher household. he balked but a few years later he was eating mcdonald's cheeseburgers, so i guess he got over it pretty fast! g
Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia ...
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
he wants to be considered a legitimate president, which he (atypically, correctly) suspects he is not, and yet, he doesn't mind going down in history as a president whose presidency was beset by one emergency after another! g
Do you think that studying the history of the world helping to make everyone become agnostic or ...
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
it depends on who is writing the history. remember studying history in elementary school? we were told that the brave, noble christopher columbus discovered america. he was no such thing and did no such thing. have you watched the history channel lately? it has become the jesus/aliens/conspiracy theory channel, but it's still called the history channel, so those who watch it might be tempted to consider it educational. then there are the holocaust deniers and other revisionists. meanwhile, some people's history exclude all but the most unavoidably famous women, refer to eras as bc and ad instead of bce and ce, call jesus "christ" even if it's not from WITHIN the religious bubble, and are otherwise less dependable than some other sources. so how do you propose the less aware who want to BECOME aware tell the difference between the "real" history and the "fake" ones? g
Selfishness as a virtue?
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
between selfishness and selflessness is the concept of acting for mutual benefit, even if one's own gratification is delayed, or passed on to a descendant. libertarianism, to me, while claiming to be for individual rights, is in fact only for the individual rights of the libertarian doing the claiming. why pay to educate someone else's kids? because 1. you were a kid and you didn't pay; pay now. 2. it is easier to live among educated people than among ignorant people. 3. other people are paying for things from which they do not benefit and you do. it evens out, more or less. why pay for roads? can't we build our own roads? no, not everyone can build a road. everyone's talents are different. we all pay to have the roads repaired (although trump says now he won't consider repairing them, or bridges, or anything else, until investigations into his life cease) even though some of us know how to build roads, and we all have to pay for public schools even though some of us know how to teach, and we all have to pay into social security even though we don't KNOW which ones of us will need it later. it's not redistribution. giving tax breaks to gazillionaires is redistribution. so... every libertarian i've ever confronted with any of this has had nothing useful to say in response but instead has changed the subject. can you tell what i think of ayn rand and of libertarianism from what i've said? rofl! g
I am proud to be a liberal and I will always vote for the most liberal candidate I can find. I ...
genessa comments on May 24, 2019:
well said, and while i'm at it, welcome to the group! g
As a freethinker I don't believe in life after death. Even when I was in my family's cult, we didn't...
genessa comments on May 23, 2019:
there is no logical way to justify belief in an afterlife. i too understand why people are desperate to believe in such a thing and may eschew logic for the sake of their peace of mind, but it just doesn't work if you think too hard about it. fortunately for me, in terms of missing loved ones, i dream prodigiously, and have often dreamt of my dead parents and my dead best friend (and even my recently deceased cat, golde). the first time i dreamt of my mother after she died, she appeared to me floating in the air about two stories high, and i looked up and said to her, "but mom, you're dead!" she made a funny face that i would say was unique to her except that sometimes i feel myself also making that face -- it was a face she used when she thought someone had said something ridiculous, and it was her version of an eye-roll. she retorted, "i am NOT dead. i'm a LATE person!" g
When you were a kid what did you think?
genessa comments on May 23, 2019:
nope, it never occurred to me, because we were secular jews and didn't go to temple, or talk about religion. we talked about culture. we celebrated holidays. we talked about history. i never even knew whether my parents believed in god until, as an adult, i asked them, and neither of them was sure what s/he believed even then. so there was no habit, and no hypocrisy. we had our problems as a family but that wasn't one of them. g
Why do i believe in science?
genessa comments on May 23, 2019:
why does someone have to BELIEVE in science? science exists. you can witness people performing scientific study every day. science isn't a belief system. belief and science don't really belong in the same sentence, not in the current context anyway. g
PETE BUTTIGIEG GOES NUCLEAR Mayor Pete claims Trump faked disability to avoid draft ...
genessa comments on May 23, 2019:
i hate to break it to you but pete was not breaking shocking news. everyone KNOWS (and has long known) that donald faked his bone spurs. he played tennis the whole time he was supposed to be in too much pain to serve. this is not exactly a secret. g
Any takers?
genessa comments on May 23, 2019:
he still owes me $130k for not sleeping with him. g
'Islamization of Europe a good thing'
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
there has always been islam in europe. it is responsible for much of the great architecture of spain. muslims, christians and jews (and presumably atheists, as long as we kept our mouths shut) lived in harmony until those most inquisitive folk ruined everything. auto-da-fe, anyone? g
Do you remember these? Which one was your favorite, mine was caramel.😊
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
hmm, no, not my thing, then or now -- and i don't tend to like products from kraft anyway. if i had to use one, though, i would likely choose butterscotch. g
The down side to this fuck wad dropping dead would be the long line waiting to piss on his grave.
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
my piss is too valuable to waste on his grave, and the earth is too valuable to be polluted by his corpse. g p.s. to my surprise i found i had typed (so it seemed at the time) "to valuable," and immediately edited that. to my surprise, after i had corrected and saved it, it still read "to valuable"! i had to do it AGAIN for it to take. i do not think it was a glitch with the editing feature. i think that ag dot com is back to its old ways of dropping letters (and even whole words) as it did for a while several months ago.
What if I’m atheist not Agnostic? Just asking, to stimulate conversation.
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
what if? nothing. be whatever you are. the address atheist dot com was taken when this site was created. if you actually read the about and all that, you will see for whom this site was created, and that includes both atheists and agnostics. g
My coworker had migraines 3 days in a row because he was fasting for Ramadan. Should your religion ...
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
i spoke to a muslim cabbie the other day about ramadan and your coworker could have been excused from fasting. the point isn't to make yourself sick. same as yom kippur; not only are the ill excused, they're forbidden from fasting. one is not supposed to hurt oneself. religions have a boatload or ridiculousness in them but this isn't an example of it; it's an example of someone not understanding his own religion. g
Can’t verify
genessa comments on May 22, 2019:
why can't you verify? i got it right away. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-ballistic-fox-and-friends/ short answer: false. g
Well, well. Look who's hearing the appeal. [huffpost.com]
genessa comments on May 21, 2019:
haha now let's not get carried away thinking a fine judge like garland is going to do anything vengeful. he will hear the arguments and judge them on their merricks, er, merits. but since trump's arguments have none, i think we can predict the outcome without suspecting any bias. g
\Some people just want material things. Me, I just want happy times, peace and people who love me....
genessa comments on May 21, 2019:
i want a few material things. i am too old and sick to be homeless. i want a roof and food and all that stuff, and comfort for the furbabies (one of whom has cancer). i need money for all the things that will keep me alive. i don't think that makes me a materialist. g
There is clear evidence that humans invent gods. Humans have invented over 2,500 gods that the ...
genessa comments on May 21, 2019:
well, yes, we know, so no, no new thoughts. none required! g
Who was Jesus ?
genessa comments on May 21, 2019:
we will never know, since (because he was not divine at any rate) he won't be coming back to tell us. i suspect he never existed at all, but if he did, he sure wasn't anything like what people who never met him and were not even alive during his lifetime said he was. since i have never been christian, this has never been a burning issue for me. g
Who is actually 'open-minded'?
genessa comments on May 20, 2019:
i forget who first said that some people are so open-minded that ideas enter and exit without stopping anywhere in between :-)) g
My daughter's science teacher believes in God, magic etc. She had a yarn doll that she had made. ...
genessa comments on May 20, 2019:
how did such a man even get to BE a science teacher? g
American voters must be embarrassed having a President who sabre rattles with foreign powers on ...
genessa comments on May 20, 2019:
american voters chose hillary clinton. she won the popular vote by almost three million. (her win would've been even bigger but there was a lot of voter suppression.) the electoral college should be ashamed but i doubt its delegates are capable of shame, or any human feeling at all.
How do you answer the banal message, "Hey, how are you?"
genessa comments on May 20, 2019:
i don't usually get asked this unless i've not been feeling well and then i am asked by someone who knows i've been ill, which i usually am. therefore i take people at their word and give an honest answer. g
I think it’s safe to say this is all of us
genessa comments on May 19, 2019:
i wouldn't let his foul lips anywhere near my pure oversized ass! g
[agnostic.com] Carrj19 I get a scammer vibe, the pictures look too good to be true. Some of his ...
genessa comments on May 19, 2019:
the only thing i can see right off the bat is his english doesn't sound native, which isn't a crime or a scam in and of itself. he also has pictures but none chosen as a profile pic, or am i missing something? but his only post is about measles and there is nothing wrong with it. lol about his pictures being too good to be true -- i didn't find them all that good, no offense -- i'm no great beauty myself. g
Do atheists value life more than theists considering that they don't believe in a afterlife
genessa comments on May 19, 2019:
i wouldn't generalize. people who realize there are no gods and by extension tend to realize there is no afterlife (it's not part of the definition but it's logical -- and yet i see people asking about it here as a separate issue) are not all alike, and just because one has made one realization we should not assume that person has made all realizations (impossible anyway). good and bad people alike can be atheists; valuing life is a relative thing anyway; valuing one's own life and valuing the lives of others, or selected others, is another. g
Are we (progressives) giving Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez too much praise? I think so. I like her a lot, ...
genessa comments on May 19, 2019:
what's wrong with praise? you say she hasn't got a swollen head. so i see no down side. no one stays long in a superhero costume and she herself isn't trying it on, so i'm not worried. g
I actually saw an ad on TV today, that surprised me - in a good way, telling about "Freedom from ...
genessa comments on May 19, 2019:
i love that ad. ron reagan is funny and smart. i see him sometimes on msnbc and he always makes sense, and makes it in a clever, compelling way, too. g
if your mother was on her deathbed and she begged you to pray with her. would you do it, would ...
genessa comments on May 19, 2019:
that would have killed my mom. we're jewish. but pretending to pray with someone dying, someone you love, and actually accepting a nonexistent christ into your heart are not the same thing. how would anyone even know what was in your heart? you could be on your knees and saying to yourself, "i am not praying but i am on my knees to make my mother happy, and she will die peacefully because of this pose, and it hurts no one, including me." my mom on her deathbed said she thought she would be joining my dad in heaven. do you think i said "gee mom i'm sorry you're dying but guess what? there's no heaven!" i said no such thing and i did not feel like a hypocrite for not correcting her. you only die once. g

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