Wednesday morning cuteness...Off to school

racocn8 comments on Sep 14, 2022:

You can teach a cat?

Letters From An American 09/13/2022

racocn8 comments on Sep 14, 2022:

"Graham... tried to make his proposal palatable for those who support reproductive rights by framing it as a moderate one that would simply bring the U.S. in line with European countries by banning abortion after 15 weeks." If the Republicans gain Congress to pass a bill, it won't be 15 weeks - - it will be zero weeks and zero exceptions. The Republicans wouldn't and couldn't pass anything less.

Ole 3 toes is finally adding class somewhere.

racocn8 comments on Sep 14, 2022:

She probably only started when she got elected.

It saves a lot of time, unless they want you to provide the evolution of the facts.

racocn8 comments on Sep 14, 2022:

The destruction of progressive taxation flung wide open the door to the fascism, and made still easier by Citizens United.

Release of more classified UFO videos will ‘harm national security’, US Navy spokesperson says...

racocn8 comments on Sep 14, 2022:

If the term 'national security' includes the ability to control and protect the national airspace and to have confidence in that ability. Allowing the public to entertain the existence of non-humans degrades the confidence in the military of protect the nation. Also, discovering that non-humans of superior technology of possibly superior capabilities degrades confidence in the Christian religion, and that loss of faith harms 'national security.' However, it is a two-edged sword. 1. Not telling the public the truth is a violation of the Constitution, the right to Liberty including the right to know the truth. 2. The number and nature of incidents suggest a deepening involvement and threat to military readiness. These objects have stolen U.S. property, destroyed test vehicles and shown the ability and willingness to degrade nuclear weapons systems. It IS clear that a sizable number of Americans cannot handle the truth.

Biden family values

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

Hunter is under investigation and may yet be charged. Whoever breaks the law should be prepared for the consequences, but as we can see, there are different standards of justice if you have money. However, news flash, Hunter Biden is not a government employee, has no say in US policies, and hasn't hurt anyone.

If you brought the weed, she's got the lighter

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

It'd be nice to fire her up...

Ken Starr, Prosecutor in Clinton Whitewater Probe, Dies at 76 The family said it was ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

Our society is now much better off without that degenerate.

400 Americans are dying each day. We cannot accept this reality. YLE 9/13/2022

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

Hopefully those leaving include a significant percent of anti-vaxxers as they richly deserve the darwin award.

Anyone taking or thinking about taking ACV should read this. [scitechdaily.com]

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

Another benefit of ACV is avoiding the development of kidney stones.

Holy Babymaking, Batman!

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

Holy Jesus!!!! Ohh, Goooooddddd.... (They might have to wait a while for the second coming...)

I'm just curious who will guess what.

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

For all the imagination of religions, none of them get right the revelation of useful information about reality. Why IS divine inspiration false, distracting and denigrating?

My thoughts as a thirteen year old.

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

Fear me and do as I say, you free-willed freaks...or else...

Can I get an Amen....

racocn8 comments on Sep 13, 2022:

I've seen good cases made to deny an actual Jesus. So, no Amen.

Everything I Like about Religion I Learned from an Atheist - TheHumanist.com

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

These would be the Christian family values of rounding up minorities and murdering them. The family values that provide women to Incels/SS. The family values of supporting fascism and totalitarianism, exhorting the admiration of war criminals like Putin, Orban and Duterte. The family values of subjugating women, non-whites, LBGTQ, scientists, people of other faiths or no faith, and on and on. Corporations and their degenerate CEOs have used Christians and played them like a violin, corrupting and subverting democracies. And the Christians pretend not to know it, even though everyone screams at their gullibility. We're going to have to deprogram them by force, and that's not going to be pretty. Give us another option. Stop the horse shit culture wars and stand down, or else. Or, we can let them have their way and prepare for the extinction of the species.

Anti-bucket list.

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

Rock climbing. Skiing. Backpacking. Racquetball. Tennis. Use cocaine, smoke cigarettes or cigars...

Very cute !!

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

Perhaps the tatoos are intended to distract... Sad to see such beautiful skin marred...

You like manicure? There is a special place....

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

After Goth, nothing shocks...

Any thoughts on this video? I enjoyed it. 4:18 in length [youtube.com]

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

Ok. Eh. The last 20 seconds almost made up for the rest of it. Size is immaterial. Time is immaterial. Being dead is immaterial. What we experience is what matters because that is what we are. What we experience depends on our attitude and what skills and wisdom we develop to enhance our experience. Perspective is everything, so choose carefully, and change as needed.

Michigan man 'snapped' after Trump's loss and shot his family after going down 'Q rabbit hole': ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

From article "One QAnon believer shot and killed a Gambino crime boss in Staten Island. Another in California murdered his children with a spearfishing gun because he believed they had reptilian DNA." The victims of these Q-cultists should file a class action suit against Fox for repeating the Q-memes because that's where the money is, and where the damage comes from. And file against Trump to help keep his lawyers busy.

FEDERAL CANNABIS NEWS 9/12/2022 Sen.

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

The Republicans can be relied upon to be scumbags. I get that the Democrats perform poorly regarding cannabis decriminalization, but they don't pander to a base that believes cannabis is demonic.

CANNABIS CULTURE 9/12/2022 Martha Stewart's company is being sued for allegedly ripping off ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

Gee, there's a surprise... (NOT!!)

Okay, it's been 3 days.

racocn8 comments on Sep 12, 2022:

It's kinda nice to have another country's silliness fill the headlines for a change.

THE OTHER SIDE.

racocn8 comments on Sep 11, 2022:

The fear of death is so powerful that religions lie to soothe and entrap their followers. Where were you before you were born? The same place as when you are dead. Death is not even nothingness. Death does not exist; Only life. The absence of light has nothing to do with light. It's actually worse. Our existence is entirely illusory, our brains and sensory organs reacting to a world out there, but the whole is a confabulation of these signals into a fantasy, though that fantasy at least resembles the real world, most of the time.

From the question I can only presume that the 11th grade ended up being three of the toughest years ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 11, 2022:

Rayleigh scattering occurs as 1/(lambda^2). As blue light is 400 nm, 1/400^2 yields 6.3E-6 while red light at 700 nm, 1/700^2 yields 2E-6. Thus, blue light scatters 3 times more than red light. Sunlight passing through the atmosphere scatters blue more, so you see a blue sky. Also, as the blue light is scattered, the sun appears redder, especially when there is more atmosphere to travel through, as happens at sunset.

Kenneth Copeland: Ending forced prayer in schools led to mass shootings

racocn8 comments on Sep 11, 2022:

Ah, but the whole idea is to link school shootings to Christian demands. It's extortion, plain and simple. Comply with Nat-C demands (all of them) and maybe God will intervene to stop the killing. Except that everyone knows that the Nat-C's detest education, and have a perpetual campaign to undermine or end learning and critical thinking.

What's inside the recalled version of Dinesh D'Souza's '2,000 Mules' book? : NPR

racocn8 comments on Sep 10, 2022:

D'Souza belongs back in prison.

Murder-Suicide in America is common; 9 out of 10 use guns

racocn8 comments on Sep 10, 2022:

So maybe what we should be doing is making sure the right people kill themselves... (lets put those guns to good use...)

Lawrence: DOJ Tells Trump-Picked Judge She's Risking National Security - YouTube

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

Cannon knows she's betraying her country. That's the problem. All the Republicans have much greater loyalty to their party, than to the country. The problem continues in all the agencies and bureaus that harbor GQP partisans eager to betray the country if it means advancing the power of their party. We're seeing how the DOJ and FBI had all sorts of GQP betraying their oaths to gain Trump's favor. And from the coup, we know that the DOD was corrupted in the critical moment that the capitol was attacked, and thereafter as Andrew Flynn simply got reassigned. The whole of the Republican party have become fifth columnists and quislings to Putin's stooges.

There is a rumor going around

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

That would still only be half of her brother, and a smaller fraction of her father...

Hitchens was the man

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

It's called faith because lying to yourself doesn't sound so good.

Just checking on you.

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

It's the heat wave...

At least one of these would not make me more comfortable, can you guess?

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

Farting is the alarm to tell you to get ready. Emptying the rectum of gas and replacing it with shit is the next signal, followed by cognitive evaporation...

San Francisco Just Decriminalized Shrooms San Francisco unanimously passed a resolution this week...

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

My experiment (one-person trial) of microdosing Ayahuasca to control Type II Diabetes glucose levels continues to yield good results. My test subject noted that even eating a cooking normally sends his glucose skyrocketing, and that didn't happen. That may mean the remedy fully moderates the glucose level. Tryptamines may enable the cities to get a handle on the homeless that are drug addicted.

The First Amendment to the U.

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

The exercise of religion does not, therefore, include the imposition of ones own religious beliefs. More especially when those beliefs do not have historical nor liturgical basis, but only became an issue for the purpose of partisan manipulation. The White Christian Nationalists maintain the position that the country is Christian and should ONLY be Christian. With their pews steadily emptying, their desperation must be roundly rejected.

Two halves of a whole cat.

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

Merged dizygotic twins (allotropic)?

Does reversing abortion laws give all non-white Americans a better socio-economic demographic ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

"White power, at this point in time, is being quite generous to non-whites."... What, are they using softer rope for their lynchings?

CANNABIS IN SCIENCE & HEALTH 9/9/2022 A review concluded that "there is evidence for the ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

2) The old drug warrior propaganda lie about THC ruining male fertility gets quietly discarded.

Real Time with Bill Maher: Liberals vs. Liberals (HBO) - YouTube

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

As long as Maher parrots Fox talking points for his own greedy ecumenism, his standing to say shit about anything has to claw above ground first. Want to be a liberal? Stop giving Fox propaganda the time of day. Alas, Bill, I knew you well. A fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy. He hath borne me on his back a thousand times, and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now, to mock your own grinning?

Federal Judge Stomps All Over Trump Russiagate Lawsuit Against Hillary The jurist clearly thought...

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

He should be held in contempt and fined a hundred million dollars for being an asshole.

SDPD Mid-City Officer Involved Shooting (Critical Incident) [youtube.com]

racocn8 comments on Sep 9, 2022:

So what was it? 1) Murder by cop; 2) Suicide by cop; 3) Unnecessary use of deadly force; 4) Use of K9 to excuse use of deadly force; 5) other ??

Thanks Dog, take them, take them all!

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

More broken promises. Don't let the grass chap your ass on the way down.

Physical Attraction

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

A week before the wedding, my bride admitted that she had tried to commit suicide during her previous marriage, and became divorced while she was institutionalized. She had hid her depression from me as much as possible. I knew she was seeing a therapist (who was useless). If I'd had a clue what was to come, I'd have called the marriage off. But, the fallacy of sunk costs and all that... I have resentment that she was the best I could find.

Blocked by another insufferable ideologue.

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

Krish55 strikes again?

Toady deserves a mention in its own right! toady noun \ ˈtō-dē How to pronounce toady (audio)...

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

quisling [ kwiz-ling ] noun a person who betrays his or her own country by aiding an invading enemy, often serving later in a puppet government; fifth columnist.

Stabbings Suspect Myles Sanderson Dies In Custody|BBC

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

So we'll never know what we would never have known anyway, and doesn't matter.

Oh, I was late to the party?

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

That trunk will never smell the same again.

The GOP Simply Wants To Abolish Public Education – SOME MORE NEWS [youtu.be]

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

And that is also why the GQP don't give a shit about school shootings.

Pregnant Alabama Women Held in Etowah County Jail for Months to ‘Protect’ Fetus, Report Says

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

I hope they get sued bigtime. That is simply kidnapping if not enslavement.

Queen Elizabeth II has died, Buckingham Palace announces [bbc.com]

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

The obsession with royalty is the most tedious horse shit. It's just Trump Cult Lite. Ideas matter, not people, (unless they're family) The news will be useless for days replaying dopey gaudy parades.

Phooey on the claim that cats bring their prey to us because they think we can't hunt or as a love ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 8, 2022:

Someone should invent a cat refrigerator that they could use to preserve their prey rather than leave it on the pillow.

The Earth just experienced it's quickest ever.. [youtu.be]

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

I'm more concerned with the rapid shifting of the magnetic pole, which might relate to the rpms.

Elected US officials, police chiefs, military personnel named on leaked Oath Keepers membership ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

Does no one listen? Ever since Trump admitted to being hooked up with these psychos, the FBI has said that they have sought to join police forces and other safety sensitive position. And does anyone remember how the electrical grid has seen a spike in sabotage coming from these wackos? More than ever, we need to develop the means to identify these people, not only to exclude them from safety sensitive positions, but to forcibly deprogram them and it would be a good Idea to put chips in them to monitor their movements. Their metadata should be collected and continuously evaluated for criminal activity. And shut down their hate-speech channels...

Those Angels are always up to something, in this case, who can blame them?

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

I had a girl who occasionally expelled vaginal farts after sex. Those didn't smell good either.

This was the only class that a teacher ever advised me to drop.

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

I took that class and I was glad I did. That was one class that I thought should have been mandatory. Also, Statistics. Also, those typewriters look to be electric. I think they were all still mechanical, and when I inherited my brother's electric typewriter, I was thrilled.

Saturday, I turn 68, thought I would poke as little fun at some of the youngsters in their 50s.

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

I've got degenerative arthritis in my hip, and I have to check my posture every time I put weight on it, or else. Sucks. These bodies wear out. In my 20's, I thought I'd clone myself to provide a source of stem cells. What I really need is a head transplant.

Voting is the most powerful weapon we have in the fight against MAGA Republicans - TheGrio

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

Women didn't vote in 2016, helping Trump get elected. If they don't turn out to protect democracy, say good-bye to voting forever, to birth control, and to freedom. Let's see if they can begin to undo the consequences of their apathy.

My house has cement siding.

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

Maybe spray a clear matte sealant over the paint?

Just a few more with the little ones.

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

1st one: My dogs are tired.

Elected officials, police chiefs on leaked Oath Keepers list [apnews.

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

Hopefully some enterprising patriot will enhance the list with addresses, emails, and family members. They do it to us. It's only fitting... (and with a gofundme to pay the bounties...)

FEDERAL CANNABIS NEWS 9/7/2022 The White House reiterated that 2023 intern applicants will be ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

Once again, the drug warrior demonstrates just how a degrading of the learning process really occurs.

Pope Francis is lying about having 'zero tolerance' for sexual abuse

racocn8 comments on Sep 7, 2022:

A man of the cloth lying???? That would never happen....

Jesus! Just look at that face!

racocn8 comments on Sep 6, 2022:

Sucks to be her.

Earth will not quit fighting till the last human footprint is removed and human bones decayed

racocn8 comments on Sep 6, 2022:

Earth doesn't fight. Human footprints cannot be removed without Humans to see it. Human bones don't decay.

FEDERAL CANNABIS NEWS 9/6/2022 President Joe Biden declared September as National Recovery ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 6, 2022:

I'd be curious to know what the issue was that provoked the request for the Spravato - VA emails.

In the U.

racocn8 comments on Sep 6, 2022:

That's a more useful and productive function than it has ever served before.

A MAGA idiot and I tangled on Fitness Singles. It went downhill fast.

racocn8 comments on Sep 6, 2022:

Religion, including the Trump Cult, poisons everything. Being reminded of how stupid people choose to be makes me queasy. MAGAs define what it is to be evil.

We have all the good things, no wonder the MAGAt's are so angry all the time.

racocn8 comments on Sep 5, 2022:

You forgot the most important one: Truth. (Not believing a cruel, immoral, ridiculous, juvenile and brain-damaging lie).

Seeking a critical thinking analysis of my response, below, please.

racocn8 comments on Sep 5, 2022:

Never Wrestle with a Pig. You Both Get Dirty and the Pig Likes It. Don't waste your time, which is precious. (But your posts were very nicely said...)

Luka is at the beach, back before the Russians grabbed it.

racocn8 comments on Sep 5, 2022:

Public Service Announcement: Sand grains can destroy a condom in short order.

Reeling in a 240-pound bigmouth ass takes skill, patience, and finesse.

racocn8 comments on Sep 5, 2022:

I'd like to believe you're right, but... 1. Skepticism; 2. Not holding my breath; 3. Don't trust Garland (any more than Mueller) The serious, salient take-home lesson that no one talks about is that Justice Delayed is Justice Denied also applies to the victims of the wealthy. Allowing the wealthy to use judicial delays to evade justice denies the non-rich of justice. We either ensure that the wealthy can't buy their way out of criminality or we ensure there are no wealthy, one way or the other.

Altercation: Can CNN Actually Get Worse? Apparently, It Can. - The American Prospect

racocn8 comments on Sep 5, 2022:

So just like the Supreme Court, the Christian Fascist (with Putin's help) will subvert one element at a time in a long game of frog in the pot...

Out of curiousity, how many different people do you, personally, think is the AVERAGE number of ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 5, 2022:

The average? My guess is 10.

Anti-gay WI GOP candidate had 'many sexual encounters' with male colleague

racocn8 comments on Sep 5, 2022:

Sickening hypocrites...

I think I’ve lost 10 pounds since I’ve started this project, I hope I don’t disappear before I...

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

Lookin' fabulous!!!

From 1951, An American in Paris.

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

Recently watched Rhapsody in Blue, a biography of Gershwin. Lots of amazing music.

What's you favorite non domesticated animal? I'd have to go with the

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

I like giraffes.

There just has to be a reason,...right?

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

(Is: Founded; Should be: Found)

Even Jesus loves the summertime!

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

Did he not see the sign saying "No Jews or Dogs" ??

My mother is 86 I think.

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

CBD and other cannabinioids are rumored to act against Alzheimer plaque formation. Tryptamine microdosing can stimulate new connections.

If a mature woman, enamoured of her husband, said you could ask her any questions you liked about ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

What is she doing to fill any holes in her sex life?

Anybody going?

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

Line them all up and you might fill a doorway...

Everyone knows it outside Dallas

racocn8 comments on Sep 4, 2022:

He needs an IED...

He didn't really walk back his threat of riots; he lied that he had said something else.

racocn8 comments on Sep 3, 2022:

But the DOJ hasn't handed out one sentence over 10 years for violent sedition, when the constitution explicitly says 20 years. All of the sentencing have been slaps on the wrists. The DOJ is still in the service of the MAGA fascists.

I'm posting this for one reason.

racocn8 comments on Sep 3, 2022:

Is she the mayors daughter or some other wealthy elite? I can't believe the levels of both deference and incompetence.

Here's a question for you, what tastes better a fresh pussy or a freshly filled pussy?

racocn8 comments on Sep 3, 2022:

Fresh. And by fresh I don't mean sparkling clean, but no or minimal 'cheese'. Unshaved, or recently shaved; not with prickly stubble.

America doesn't deserve Herschel Walker in the US senate, they deserve Herschel Walker in the White ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 3, 2022:

It might be an improvement over Trump...

UPDATE: I was able to go on the USPTO site and fill out the three forms I need to submit with my ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 3, 2022:

What's the patent? I submitted a patent 30 years ago but 'just happened' to run into an interference of a patent filed a month before by Lawrence Livermore (who I believe got a copy of my preliminary filing and made it their own.).

So what is the verdict?

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

While I've become more accustomed to the sight of circumcision so that uncircumcised penises look odd, I'd say they should stop the practice and learn how to teach hygiene. I can see why it started.

Now THIS is some photography! Webb Inspects the Heart of the Phantom Galaxy

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

What wonderfully formed spiral arms. I'm guessing that the 'bubbles' come from supernovae or similar which 'briefly' sweep away the dust. A different mechanism must sweep the dust from the center, something related to its super massive black hole. I wonder if the center is really blue or that's just image processing.

McCarthy calls on Biden to apologize for ‘semi-fascism’ remark | The Hill

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

Here is a traitor who knew about the coup and aided it. He and the rest of his treasonous party should be permanently banned from public service as PRESCRIBED BY THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! (Yelling because the Constitution is being ignored to spare the feelings they don't really have.) Remember this: "The Canadian House of Commons erupted in shouts of condemnation Wednesday after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau replied to a Jewish member of Parliament by accusing members of the opposing Conservative Party of "standing with people who wave swastikas." Except that they did indeed express support for the neo-Nazi White Nationalist truckers that waved swastikas and Confederate flags. https://www.foxnews.com/world/canada-house-commons-erupts-after-trudeau-accuses-first-jewish-woman-mp-supporting-swastikas

Why Republicans are offended from being called Fascists?

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

Give 'em a 1-way ticket to Hungary (or any other shit-hole dictatorship)

Thoughts on this?

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

Stupid and asinine. Let the city buy apartment complexes if that's the path they want. Putting any of them in conventional housing is a prescription to destroy those assets. Many homeless WANT to be on the street. They include: 1) Mentally ill; 2) Behaviorally ill; 3) Out of work/resources/just landed/kicked out; 4) Drug addicted; 5) Criminal/thieves/hiding out. Each requires their own very specialized action.

What are your thoughts?

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

There are 10 kinds of people; those that understand binary and those that don't.

ANOTHER THREAT RISING Clad in the teal unitard and pink cape that strike terror in purveyors of ...

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

Looks like The Omen to me.

Former dean of Christian boarding school charged with abducting teen

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

Sandoval is the one that needs deprogramming and 'change'. Hopefully he'll get it in the showers.

This is just pathetic.

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

Just exactly what scripture or other part of her beliefs has bearing on how she addresses her students. (In other words, her excuse is a bullshit lie.)

Republicans Attack Ranked-Choice Voting After Palin's Alaska Loss

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

The woman who defeated Palin has 170 rifles. Ah, so much better than Palin...

A great meme to copy and paste...

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

Yes, Christianity is all about loving the stranger. The examples are innumerable. (Extreme sarcasm)

I'm getting a new dog very soon.

racocn8 comments on Sep 2, 2022:

So you've settled on getting a chihuahua...(?)