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When them dems finally come to terms with 5 billion for a wall, he needs to up it to 25 billion to end the shutdown.

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They want to spend billions on a wall but vote against helping agent orange veterans that would cost 5 million because it is too expensive. Really................

Jolanta Level 8 Dec 29, 2018
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When one guy who has no background makes such a statement I know it's not worth listening to. This is old age thinking and to hell with the environmental or property rights impact. Lets build a Chinese style wall and finito bs. Things as E-verify or other more useful and better methods are ignored. BTW, there is an organization called NumbersUSAm[numbersusa.com] Take a look at it and see how, yet once agai this idiot and his butt licking cronies are fooling the American public and bringing more immigrants in order to get cheap and controlable workers for industry. This issue should NOT be about people but policies, workable and verifiable policies. The libertarians and ultra-conservatives need to start thinking for once (if that's possible).

E-verify. You mean a system of computers and database. Cause that stuff never gets hacked....

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So the government is shut down because he can't get funding for a wall he said Mexico was going to pay for? SMDH. Maybe he will get impeached and then we don't have to worry about the stupid bastard

Rudy1962 Level 9 Dec 29, 2018
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The issue is tht the money rump want sto spend to build a wall could be better used more effectively elsewhere to secure the border. It isnt' really the money, but how it is to be spent.

By the tiem you add int he costs of the land needed to build the wall on the costs of the wall exceed 100 billion.

Rioght wingers also dont' talek about the added costs of 2-3 billion per year (in today's dollars) that it woudl take to maintain the wall.

So, over 100 billion for a wall tht can be defeated by a $30 ladder. It just isnt' an efficient use of funds.

snytiger6 Level 9 Dec 29, 2018
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