Great answer.

Exactly

Yeah, there are so many vicious lies that it is really difficult to pick out the worst two.

@Lefthanded
I don’t see the relevance of your comment to my comment, interesting as it is.

@Lefthanded
This is about religion, not Christianity. Yes, there are plenty of problems with Christian dogma, but that’s just not relevant. Perhaps you should have asked “what are the two most vicious lies in Christianity”?

@Lefthanded
Original sin. That’s horse shit.

Eternal life.

@Lefthanded
I’m good with the conservation of mass and energy, but eternal life? No.

@MARDUK You clearly misunderstood my response to the post.

Q: Folks, do you know the two most vicious lies of religion?
A: All gods are real (Lie #1 ). Religious books are the truth (Lie #2 ).

Very good answer. Covers just about all the vicious lies by grouping them together as one big vicious lie.

@Lefthanded The biggest lies are usually the most vicious. They also tend to beget all the others.

@Lefthanded I read some of them. I didn't want to take their answers.

Yes, there are so many vicious lies it is really difficult to pick out the worst two.

@snytiger6 Yep.

@Lefthanded Unfortunately most of those adults have been indoctrinated since childhood themselves and are truly ignorant of the deceptions.

@Lefthanded Oh yes the leaders that knowingly deceive people for any reason should be held to an even higher standard. I agree this should have been outlawed centuries ago if not even millenniums.

@CreativelyMe. Find a way to stop the indoctrination of children and you have found a way of bringing peace to this planet.

@Axlefoley Iceland did. Last year they passed a law that teaching to a child of 12 and under is child abuse and punishable as a felony.

@Axlefoley That would probably require us overthrowing our government and starting fresh. Teach them basic survival skills and then supervise them in safe settings so they can explore without fearing consequences for messes or mistakes.

Hellfire and damnation, lol, Lefthanded is playing at something. What is he up to? sounds like he's trying to convince himself.

@Lefthanded oh, I think a great many of us here, the greater majority, know that these Bronze Age religions are the original "fake news" of history combined with the original inventors of euphemistic language (Virgin Birth, Holy Trinity). Academic Dr Richard Carrier put it nicely once when he called early Christians demonstrably "Big Ass Liars". As for religious physical, emotional and sexual abuse of children, and cover up, the global evidence against the mainstream Christian religions is indisputable.

@Lefthanded "religious charlatanism". To whom is this comment directed? I trust not me. I suggest you focus your replies with a little more care and precision.

In the beginning of what though? The planet Earth or all time and eternity?

@CreativelyMe Indeed, the Bible says word but in fact we don't what it was or even if there was a beginning

@Lefthanded Sounds fascinating though. I am a firm believer in the power (magic/alchemy???) of words. I think it has to do with the frequencies though. Frequencies are mind boggling in their power. I think of opera stars shattering glass or dog whistles humans cannot hear. It is my opinion that "the word" is what humans have altered so much that we no longer communicate clearly. Maybe ancient Egyptians harmonized to move those megaliths??? Tesla worked with vibrations and it is speculated that his technology was used in bringing down the twin towers so there is much to be explored in this area and you sound more knowledgeable than most so I am going to follow you and see what you have to say about other things. Thanks for giving me something to think about!!!

@Lefthanded Yes definitely interested. I love all things ancient. I even got to see the Dead Sea Scrolls on exhibit once. My name, Melita is ancient Greek and there was an island with my name that is now known as Malta. I love studying the times before Christ and imagine where he went during his missing years because IF he did exist, he certainly was not religious. Philosophical yes, religious no way. I have ruled out religion but not a creator(s) so finding someone else that researches these things is super cool! Thanks for the book recommendation!

Randolph Churchill, son of Winston Churchill, read the Bible for the first time in his life while a lieutenant in the army. His friend gave it to him to keep him quiet. Once through the book, Randolph said: "Fucks, this is the shittiest book I ever read!" (Expletives are his, not mine).