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hi,
i am a long time anti theist atheist. living in the bible belt of all things, lol i debated theist on pal talk for years. so i am quite versed in the antics of god believers.
i joined this hoping to run into some local atheist. no offence to those abroad, or a few states or more away.though i will talk with everyone. i would like to meet a single women. . there ya have it, lol

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The jokes on us, men.
MichaelSpinler comments:
good one
I need this group! I come from a long line of non-cussers. My thirty years in fundamentalism and marriage to a hyper-fundamentalist saw to that! ...things have changed. I've become a new man. Heads at work have turned, whispers among co-workers and rumors abound! About a year and a half ago I said (out loud), FUCK IT!!!!! Fuckity, fuck-fuck...God dammit, shit, prick, asshole, and on and on. I still can't yell out words like, "cunt" or even "bitch," but maybe I'll be able to cross that barrier in it's proper context one day, for fuck's sake. Studies also show that a good dose of profanity increases one's sense of well-being and life expectancy. I have some ground to cover. If I've personally offended any asshats here, please ask me to leave and I'll go quietly! George Carlin is my hero in this area: https://youtu.be/kyBH5oNQOS0
MichaelSpinler comments:
there are also studies that found people that curse tend to be more honest. Profanity, the use of offensive and rude words, is naturally a controversial topic. There is some debate about what profanity reveals about a person’s character, more specifically, whether it is a sign of honesty or dishonesty. On the one hand, profanity is generally offensive; people who use swear words violate social norms of politeness, and therefore, some people see profanity as a sign of potential antisocial and deviant tendencies. On the other hand, others regard profanity as an authentic way of expressing strong emotions and therefore see it as a sign of candor and frankness. A recent paper attempted to settle this debate by examining the relationship between profane language and (dis)honesty. Based on three studies, the authors concluded that profanity is associated with greater honesty. However, closer examination of their results shows that only one of their studies supported their conclusion, albeit tentatively, while another study actually points to the opposite conclusion, and the remaining study was inconclusive. Hence, the question remains unsettled.
Of course, someone may help you 'from behind'!!!
MichaelSpinler comments:
what if the ladder is made of foreskins? they have to be doing something with them up there.
Just fuck these Idiots. Let them all die. http://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/08/18/son-of-pastor-who-died-from-snake-bite-nearly-dies-from-snake-bite-again/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Best+of+Patheos&utm_content=57 Snakes 3 Fundie Morons 0
MichaelSpinler comments:
i had to look a sec. yeah that son of snake bitten idiot almost died. better luck next time darwin.
Don't you hate those "feel free to send me a message" messages?
MichaelSpinler comments:
yup along with the just ask. if you dont give me something to go on in a profile, what am i asking you? or messaging you for? they must like cheesy one liners from players, they always wind up right back on the dating site. saying guys suck. lol
Might hopefully be adopting this little sweetheart 😍. I just have to finish my fence!
MichaelSpinler comments:
still working on that fence? sheesh.
Are you a dog person or a cat person? (I'm a cat person)
MichaelSpinler comments:
both and neither, i have had both, like both, but dont wish to have any . if my partner want them fine, but not on my own. also have had fish, 4 tanks going at one time, oscars, in one, salt water reef tank, african ciclids, and feeder fish tanks. then moved on to iguana's its someone elses turn to be old macdonald lol
Are Aliens 👽 real ?
MichaelSpinler comments:
the ancient alien show is complete rubbish. that being said. chances are there is life on other planets. species like our own, tool makers and (intelligent ) has to be even more rare, given that on this planet most life is not, and was free of humans for billions of years. if not for an asteroid impact, the dino;s may have still ruled the planet,or what ever species with sharp claws and teeth supplanted them and mammals would still be shrew like creatures. many gloss over ufo, means unidentified, and start calling them as alien craft. even if aliens were coming here, they are more than likely thousand if not millions of years ahead of us, and would not bother trying to talk to us, any more than we would talk to an ant.
I have yet to see anything at Agnostic about sports. Anyone like Football? Here is our first installment of the season. I spent a good portion of the morning editing. http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/37998/nfl-preseason-corn-not-even-yet-edition/
MichaelSpinler comments:
nope, hate ball sports, a lot of us are nerds. my sport is deep sea fishing , scuba, and a huge car guy, hot rods and muscle cars antique cars etc, not nascar. when they make womens volley ball a national past time, i am in. loved it in the olympics.
How do you or did you handle it when you’re texting someone and they abruptly disappear out of the conversation then come back 30 minutes to 2hrs later like nothing happened? If asked, what was the reason given for leaving the conversation? Or did you not say anything about it? Just curious
MichaelSpinler comments:
shit happens, i do it too, i may be at work, or a client calls and i have to take it. i try to at least say brb, or bbl. sometimes i just cant , because the phone rang between us texting. my biggest peve is someone who mostly text or only text to get to know me, i am always a smart ass, and always taken wrong in a text. you will never know this if you dont talk to me.
This can be played on both sides, but being single for a while, and on several other dating sites over time, here are my pet peeves when considering communicating with someone new, in order of how much they trigger me NOT to write: 1. Duck Lips photos. I HATE Duck Lip Photos! Come on, you are not 16! 2. Photos with cutesy filters like are available on most smart phones these days. Okay if you are 12, but not as an adult. 3. Using the term "LOL" in your profile. Come on, not only is that term way out of date (used when phones became smart and one had to conserve characters), but do things really make you laugh out loud? Same goes for SMH, WTF, OMG, and so on. 4. Multiple photos of you with other people, so I cannot determine which one is you. 5. Multiple photos of you with the same smiling face from the neck up. Give me a bit of variety! 6. Photos of your pets, your kids, flowers, or anything else that does not have you in the picture as well, especially as a prime photo. I know, on my profiles I have a few like this, but they are after several of me. 7. Photos that focus on your cleavage or your breasts or in a nightie. Yes, I enjoy those things, but when you zoom in on them it tells me you are trying too hard to sell me. 8. Bastardizing the King's English. No, not everyone is college educated, but if you have poor grammar and spelling and your profile is full of errors, I likely will pass. 9. Use of old photos and new ones where the difference is so great it ...
MichaelSpinler comments:
i agree , i would tweak a few to add, the top down pic from bbws, trying to sell you on big boobs, yeah they are big, your fat and so is your ass, i dont give a crap you have big boobs the out of date pic, so you will click on there profile, then have to look for the oldest version of you. same opinion you have, its a sales pitch of deception. i can live with a typo in the body of a full profile in the attempt at at least making the effort, but if you cant spell the heading on top, i wont even click on it. pics with your little kids and grands, chances are i just flagged a hooker or two on the same site, do you really want to show perves your kids pics? stating you love to travel, when i see you are making poverty wages, showing your pics of cancoon and europe, i assume by this you have used some dude to get there. i am not footing the bill because you have a vagina. showing the thinnest pic of you, wasting my time , when we meet you have the balls to tell me how relieved you are i look just like my pic, true story<she was 400lbs on a good day. my profile states i am not into bbw's go find someone who is.and stop calling people shallow to try to reverse the problem onto me. typical barbie types that never fill anything out and put just ask. no i wont ask, i did not go to a bar to talk to random women, i like being able to screen out who i have the most in common with. filled out profiles will never contain everything about a person, but it does tell me who has a brain and who is really serious about finding a great match. guys sending dick pics, now i have to deal with the fall out of women expecting every guy to be a perve and send them. assuming that its just you women that have to deal with liars and bullshit on a dating site, expecting just me to have to prove myself while you sit up on your high horse. can you tell i have experience with that crap yet. i could keep going. lmao
Dating sites, do you ever string a scammer along? I mean if you know its a scam and you are so bored, do you just waste as much of their time as you can? You can tell the obvious ones by the fact that they msg you without looking at your profile. For me they are fair game. 1, They are scamming so it relieves me of any guilt. 2, Whilst they are wasting time on me they are leaving someone else more gullible alone. 3, If more of us did this it might discourage them from the site.
MichaelSpinler comments:
i have when its the i am stranded in africa, i am sending you this models pic and pretending its me type of scammer. i will send them down to the western union and make them wait.
Can Sex Make You Fall in Love With Someone?
MichaelSpinler comments:
no, but not being sexually compatible will make me end it.
I don't believe in hooey. By that I mean I'm more cynical than I'd like to be. Some people say there is a person out there for everyone. Well, I'm not so sure about that. I want a relationship, but I'm not into super sweet stuff right off the bat if you know what I mean. If a man acts like he loves me or is infatuated with me too quickly, I back off. Is this normal? Probably not... I don't believe in fate. I don't believe in love at first sight...or second sight...hell, who knows how long it takes!
MichaelSpinler comments:
its normal for a critical thinker and a skeptic. like myself.a red flag goes up when someone starts the i love you crap , before i feel like they know me. that they are in love with love, not me. the deep love i seek, will start out as friends and over some time will fall into love. why i avoid women when they say they are looking for marriage, not because i wont get married or fear commitment, but in my head they are more interested in the outcome than they are in taking the time to fall in love and let it develop to the level i would even consider it. what i picture when they seek it, before they even meet a guy, is they already have the cake and dress, and just need a guy to fill the role.
Was becoming atheist difficult?
MichaelSpinler comments:
there are a few aspects of this, first becoming an atheist was a long process, but as far as when i could no longer believe because of the research i did, not believing was easy. telling folks i no longer believe was the hard part. the loss of family and friends was also hard.
Maybe I misunderstood the purpose of this whole thing, but I feel like those who answer 100% certain there is a God and are here to meet men or women are just using it as a free dating app and, although I do my level best not to judge, I am irritated by it.
MichaelSpinler comments:
if they answer they believe in god at all, they should not be on here at all. clearly they are trolling or stupid
Is This Just a Dating Site?
MichaelSpinler comments:
its both so i did not vote.
Hey baby, how YOU doin’? Lol
MichaelSpinler comments:
your initial line , all i hear is joey tribiani from the friends tv show. lol funny meme too btw.
When a person with birth, physical, or mental defects goes to heaven, do they take their disability with them? If they don't, is it really THEM in heaven?
MichaelSpinler comments:
that in part has been my strongest argument against this afterlife nonsense. mainly people that develop some form of brain damage , be it trauma of otherwise. where is the cosmic bus stop these fully functional brained souls wait on until the rest of them dies , or do they have to spend eternity in the state that they are in when their body finally dies?
I was talking to a man at work who had questions about my atheism. We got to the topic of human suffering. I basically asked him, "if god can do anything, wouldn't it be a good time to intervene when a child is being raped?" He didn't have an answer. There are no good answers to that question from believers.
MichaelSpinler comments:
one stroll down a childrens cancer ward is proof of that. i find it ironic this god wanted us to not worship false gods, yet wont provide evidence of its existence . its best method of getting the word out was uneducated desert dwellers in a remote area, rather than china, who had a society at that time with far more education, expects his words to trickle out eventually to the entire human population. that already worship other gods that also has a book of magic like theres. with no evidence at all. a loving god as they claim, would clean up this mess of false gods and religions and atheist. in this age, when we have cameras, and recording devices. since it did nothing for billions of years while the earth and life on earth evolved. whats a few thousand more years? if it was so important to this god that ( he ) lol have it in the first five commandments all about his vanity and how to service him. apparently this loving god is ok with 75 % + of the earth population being destines for hell, or at very least not get into its heaven. rant over> lol
What has been the weirdest or worst response you have received from telling someone you are an atheist/nonbeliever/freethinker etc?
MichaelSpinler comments:
the most ironic one came a couple weeks ago. encountered a fundy christer , that started to argu for his god after hearing i was an atheist. after i schooled him on his bible and religion, he said. with all that you know about the bible and christianity, i cant believe you dont believe in god. i stared at him for a second, then said that should tell you something about your religion and faith. why i understand it better than you and am an atheist.
I have posted here about the need to curb our exuberance in condemning as stupid every believer on the planet. This article in the Post is an excellent example of why there is reason to be willing to work with believers to reach political goals. If we exercise groupthink to discount them all, are we any better than the religion we reject? Here's the article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/the-baptists-and-the-yogis-join-together-to-fight-a-pipeline/2018/08/18/9eb54816-9fe6-11e8-83d2-70203b8d7b44_story.html?utm_term=.59b462dc5899
MichaelSpinler comments:
i already agree with your statement, if this article reflects that, you would be preaching to the choir . when i mock religion i am targeting the creationist, and their claims.there are plent of educated secular christians out there, that we need on our side. i dont seek to offend them or pigeon hole them.. i was a believer at one time too. you never know which one of them will be the next atheist.
when I switched from community to dating the 3 profile pictures on the top of my home screen has gotten stagnant and boring. I used to see all the members who joined, now I see the same three guys I'm not into for a week. I'm still here for community as well... idk, just an observation.
MichaelSpinler comments:
i feel ya, being mine is set for local women, its been mainly the same ones i am not interested in for a while. which is an improvement from nobody on here living near me, lol the one gal that i would like to get to know, works crazy hours that seam to make her not on here much, or just not really interested in me that way. so its the occasional message back and forth. good thing i am patient. i stay for the community as well.
I mistakenly thought I was dealing really well with all the bullshit in my life. I thought I was helping my friends deal with their bullshit too. Turns out I haven't dealt with anything and I have done nothing but push away those who were looking out for me. So now I'm even more alone than I was before. And all my friends are tired of listening to me complain about the same old stuff. I have nowhere to turn and no one to help me.
MichaelSpinler comments:
if you need to talk i am here for you. i have my good times and bad times too. just when you think you are over it, something triggers it off in my head. i wind up pushing people away as well. just because of what its done to my mind. why groups like this are important. most people dont know how , or wish too deal with it, because it did not happen to them. empathy will only get you so far. my defense mech, is joking and being light hearted when you see me in chat rooms. much like the robin williams happy on the outside.
This is sad 😖
MichaelSpinler comments:
thats misleading. while it sounds deep, its not. we have set up a system of group cooperation, its part of living in a group , its part of developing an advanced system of cooperation and it sure beats the barter system. i cant fit an ox in my pocket , money is better. i also dont have to specialise in every minute detail of living in a culture. like as example, i dont have to hunt and gather food. i gladly pay for others to do that, as they also pay me for my special talents.
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