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If 45 or someone like him, such as DeSantis, gets in in 2024, what then? I don't mean just one's own choice to stay or leave. The question is, if every trace of democracy and constitutional legality is destroyed, what can or should follow? What kinds of resistance, peaceful or otherwise, might be possible and/or advisable? To speak analogically, or allegorically, if the Democrats have denied us our Debs, we may yet seek our Lenin or our Mao, and I damn well hope we can do better than the Bolsheviks or the Chinese Communists. Assuming that we can do a goddamned thing.

AlanCliffe 7 June 14
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Here's how the Bolsheviks and Chinese Communists did:

61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill

[hawaii.edu]

I don't believe Trump murdered anyone during his 4 years as President or DeSantis murdered anyone during his time as governor of Florida.

BD66 Level 8 June 14, 2022

I disagree due to the COVID policies of both. 75K deaths in Florida, 1 MILLION in the US. And yes, I understand that Mango Mussolini wasn't king the whole time.

@MizJ

  1. We're talking state sponsored murder, not people who die of a contagious disease.
  2. The death rate was higher in New York than it was in Florida, so put Cuomo up there with Hitler, Stalin, and Mao if that's how you calculate things:

[worldometers.info]

Your figures would tend to support the idea that the Democrats ought not to have denied us our Debs.
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