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What was the big expansion made of before it expanded? All the Atoms of the periodic table that ever existed? Dark matter?
What was it that expanded other than space and time? A couple of hundred million years of nothing expanding into nothing else does not compute.
If everything was flying away from everything else at the same speed how did they then gravitate towards each other to form elements molecules metals etc
What caused a couple of individual atoms traveling in different directions at the speed of light decide to turn and become a molecule of iron?
Why would galaxy's ever hit each other if they too are all moving away from everything else at the same speed?
I'm still trying to grasp that bit in the beginning.

Anonbene 8 July 25
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A theorist friend of mine came up with an idea of a quantum interference detector..
I am trying to build it. We need about 1M for the the ground prototype and 100M to fly it. The full system is a 100G detector. linked quantum fountains..1Tm apart. It should detect gravimetric events at 10Mparsec distance... we could use a cm specialist who understands how to create a qm coupled particle fountain from a bec.

JohnBeret Level 5 July 28, 2018
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I think you will find many answers to your questions in the article "Our Expanding Universe: Age, History & Other Facts." I won't list them here but will refer you to [space.com]

Thank you. That was somewhat helpful but that's my idiocy. I'll reread it.

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We don't have enough information to speak about anything about the universe prior to about a microsecond post event 0 (the big bang has to much bagage for most people). we have some data up to particles around 10^18 ev. event zero is plank scale .. about 20 orders of magnitude higher.

JohnBeret Level 5 July 25, 2018
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With our current understanding of the early universe I doubt we are even able to ask all this in one question, never mind give it a single answer. The way I look at it, which can never be more than an easier to understand substitute for the facts, perhaps for the first period of expansion (microseconds? millions if years?) the building blocks of matter were so densely packed that they couldn't exist in any form that we see today. To touch on what's been mentioned already, maybe the start was just a pair of extremely high energy opposite particles who's sum was nothing, that each broke down into a colossal number of more familiar particles as the decrease in density allowed, maybe in several stages. Particles is no doubt too simple a word considering they constituted not just matter but the actual dimensions through which they expanded. The breaking down into familiar particles would create collisions that bound some particles and sent others in different directions than the general direction of expansion, after which the fundamental forces would eventually lead to what we see today.
I don't pretend to have much of a clue what I'm talking about but something along those lines seems to my understanding to fit with what is known or surmised. I'd be happy to be corrected though!

Salo Level 7 July 25, 2018

Thank you for the input.

First there was nothing then there was something.

First there was nowhere then there was somewhere.

Those thoughts keep messing with me.

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Some theorize that we could be inside of a black hole-to me that’s fascinating! Black holes ingesting matter and effectively becoming ‘white holes’ inside their respective event horizons/singularities. Theoretical physics is super fun for me to think about until I inevitably run into the mathematics wall!

I'm thinking if I was in a black hole I would be taller and thinner. ?

@Anonbene maybe you are! ?

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well, so is physics. There is no definite conclusion just hypotheses.
One hypothesis is that there is never a perfect vacuum, opposite particles can appear out of nothing without requiring or adding energy in a close system. Think of digging a hole in the ground. The level ground has zero energy. Once you have a hole and a pile on dirt, the hole represents the exact opposite of the mound of dirt yet their sum is zero. Something could appear out of nothing assuming the sum of all particles is zero (protons, antiprotons, matter, antimatter, etc..). This would be the basis of Supersymmetry. (this is a start)

Lukian Level 8 July 25, 2018
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Lots of questions here - some misconceptions. I will only attempt to answer one question and leave others for other members. All elements other than Hydrogen (1 proton essentially) were created in stars. Low mass stars fused protons into nuclei at their cores, creating heavy elements up to iron. More massive stars produced more of those elements during their lives plus everything heavier than iron in the throes of their deaths. Those death processes help enrich space so that new stars form from richer matter. And the recycle process continues...

vcg1234 Level 7 July 25, 2018

^yep what she said as well.

I appreciate your effort to try and explain this to me but I ment what happened before the stars started cooking. What made a star start to exist and from what given that the universe was and is expanding away from everything else?

At some time in the past did the speed of expansion slow down enough for (what?) things to bump into each other and create its own gravity?

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