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kiramea comments on Aug 16, 2020:

I find it interesting that Christians are so unforgiving about abortion, homosexuality, transgender, etc) but ignore the top ten of God's atrocities (10 Commandments).

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

Yes but no one is likely to pay the chuch any money to be forgiven those sins.

Having read the Admin's posts, and the purpose of the group, I'm not sure this is the place - but as...

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 15, 2020:

**Step-1;** Development of this site should be entrusted to or at least shared with someone who sees its potential rather than is embarrassed by it. **Step-2;** First resolve Step-1

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Will do.

Having read the Admin's posts, and the purpose of the group, I'm not sure this is the place - but as...

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 15, 2020:

**Step-1;** Development of this site should be entrusted to or at least shared with someone who sees its potential rather than is embarrassed by it. **Step-2;** First resolve Step-1

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Sgt_Spanky Yes I know, people are jumping overboard fast now. I am still in contact with her by email, so if you want to message her, just let me know.

Having read the Admin's posts, and the purpose of the group, I'm not sure this is the place - but as...

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 15, 2020:

**Step-1;** Development of this site should be entrusted to or at least shared with someone who sees its potential rather than is embarrassed by it. **Step-2;** First resolve Step-1

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Allamanda No, I mean the new manager would not have to self finance it.

Having read the Admin's posts, and the purpose of the group, I'm not sure this is the place - but as...

Sgt_Spanky comments on Aug 15, 2020:

**Step-1;** Development of this site should be entrusted to or at least shared with someone who sees its potential rather than is embarrassed by it. **Step-2;** First resolve Step-1

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

I agree. If admin does not want the site any longer then we should encourage him to hand it on to someone who does. It would be easier perhaps if he allowed adverts instead of trying to self finance it. That would not I think trouble most members and would make it much less daunting for a new manager.

The least weasel, natures smallest. [youtube.com]

Boomtarat03 comments on Aug 15, 2020:

The cuteness is dangerous ☺

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

It always is.

Is human morality (ethics) hard wired or is it a learned behaviour? Or an a adaption of both?

Fernapple comments on Jun 10, 2020:

Since all higher social animals show some forms of morality, which is to a degree certainly hard wired, the real question is. Why would humans be the exception ? Everything has to be hard wired at the bottom of it. As Marionville below says. "Human survival from out earliest ancestor's time has ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 16, 2020:

@Atheist3 Sorry there is no basis for species level sellection or evolution, species survival does not exist in evolutionary terms.

“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in a storm, a night with no moon, and the ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 15, 2020:

Very poetic.

Fernapple replies on Aug 15, 2020:

@Allamanda Yes for a modern, but it seems he writes historical fantasy, and in the old days perhaps. Remember the Lunar society.

Hi folks! I'm new here, having fun so far.

PondartIncbendog comments on Aug 14, 2020:

I don't know. I'm just here for the free pie.

Fernapple replies on Aug 15, 2020:

They give out free pie ! Why have I been missing out ?

Does anybody else actually 'like' wearing a face mask.

BitFlipper comments on Aug 14, 2020:

I don't enjoy it, but there are many social benefits.

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

People can't see how ugly I am for one.

The biggest enemy of learning is not lies, trying deliberately to mislead.

JackPedigo comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Funny but the 'fake' news claim often comes from those responsible for fake news. It is a sort of fake-fake news group.

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

Yes that is fun. But it was not really fake news as such that I was mainly thinking of, so much as the great bulk of information which is not harmful nor useful. For example all the litrature I was made to learn about at school which was biblically derived, the outdated geography, or in later life, celebrity culture.

Portrait of another village.

Boomtarat03 comments on Aug 14, 2020:

The place looks so quiet💜 I like the pic from 1️⃣ & 3️⃣ ☺

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

It is very quiet and out of the way, you can often drive through it an never encounter anyone or any other car.

You have now been given the ability to travel to any point on the space-time continuum other than ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 14, 2020:

Hello and welcome enjoy the site. I would go back to the nineteen sixties and seventies, to see if they really were as good as everyone said. I was only a child then and could not understand the big picture. And I would also like to see the countryside again, because I do remember, the abundant ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@Cyklone Hedonist !

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@dinoid Game over. LOL Bye.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@dinoid You really have no idea how you are misrepresenting them. Wow.

Does anybody else actually 'like' wearing a face mask.

PondartIncbendog comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I like not being able to be identified. You never know who's watching you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Fernapple replies on Aug 14, 2020:

@PondartIncbendog Very droll. LOL

Here's a book review I wrote in 2012 about a friend of mine's book, Golden Rule or Greedy Rule.

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Actually I do not think that you could live by the golden rule and obey the ten commandments. But how can 'unwed' fit the list, since if we lived by the golden rule as you say, we would not need marriage laws any more than the ten commandments.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@Aristippus The ten commandments are not really that concerned with morals, mostly they are about strengthening the power of the religious establishment. And if the story is to be believed, (Big if.) then the Jesus person died, mainly at the request of the religious establishment, because he challenged the commandments. Certainly he challenged keeping the Sabath, respecting parents, etc. directly.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

AmmaRE007 comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Well there are many people still flying around...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

A few but not like they did.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

Angelamelek comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Good dramatic angle Fernapple.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

Thank you, I liked that one because I think the droplets in the window work well too.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

Allamanda comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I've never taken planes for 'fun', only for family trips and work, and of course have no way to know if we'll ever be able to afford to in the future... but yes, the confinement is irksome to everyone I think.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@Allamanda I have given up trying to guess what the human race will do, but the younger generation are changing the debate, so perhaps they just need a little of the short time we have. Someone asked, I think on here, the other day. "Why are young people today so sure they are right." And my only thought beside, young people always think they are right, was. Perhaps because they are.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

Allamanda comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I've never taken planes for 'fun', only for family trips and work, and of course have no way to know if we'll ever be able to afford to in the future... but yes, the confinement is irksome to everyone I think.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@Allamanda Depends, its a complex subject. Certainly unless electric road transport becomes the norm, and the world can generate enough electricity from none carbon means, then our present road use is a slow burn disaster. Rail, sea an air travel certainly add a lot to that, but it is important not to get carried away by the often mindless retoric. A lot of flack is, for example, aimed at air travel by the 'green' lobby, probably because it is high profile and often seen as a luxury for the rich developed world. But you have to remember that the carbon footprint of a flight is only a quarter that of a car journey, per passenger, when once the distance exceeds five hundred miles.

I know that they are bad for our carbon footprint, and that they help to spread disease, But is ...

Allamanda comments on Aug 13, 2020:

I've never taken planes for 'fun', only for family trips and work, and of course have no way to know if we'll ever be able to afford to in the future... but yes, the confinement is irksome to everyone I think.

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

No, but of course you do not have to be traveling for fun to enjoy the journey. And you have to wonder what sort of a closed down, increasingly zenophobic world we may end up with if people stop traveling.

Does anybody else actually 'like' wearing a face mask.

Pralina1 comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Dust allergy is hard to deal w it 🙁. I am sorry . Are there any inhalers for breakthrough or meds u can take ?

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

Its very mild, may not even be a true allergy, just a bit of pepperiness and sniffles when the air is dirty, So no, a mask is good but in youth I suffered for a true allergy, so I know the side effect of the meds and would not go back to that again.

I just wondered.

Pralina1 comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Yes . “ get a life “ is a saying here . Does not matter to them whatever we can possibly say . They are convinced that covid is not as harmful as we say , and they are convinced that there is no real danger . Evolution is a very slow process .

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

It is when you are stuck with the just old fashioned form by natural sellection.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@dinoid I know that the Hamiltonian is real and the Hoffman too, that is why your misrepresenting of them is so bad.

I just wondered.

AnonySchmoose comments on Aug 13, 2020:

Yes it is said here! Protest masks? A lot like: protest seat belts, imo . . . .

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

Well yes, but I think that it is even sillier than seat belts. After all seat belts only protect you, and if you are prepared to ignore the costs to family and friends, plus the raised cost of medical insurance, you can just about make a case against seat-belts as a demand for freedom, you are stupid if you do, but you can. Whereas masks protect everyone, and the cost is trivial.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@dinoid I can see different packets of energy, because the different packets are there. Energy 'may', (and even that is on the questionable fringe of physics,) exist as one entity at the particle and quantum level. But there is no reason to assume that it exists as such in other states, such as biology. Separation is an emergent property at levels above those of theoretical particle physics, because separation is essential to the increase of complexity and is therefore the first stage in the growth of information. A block of brass for example contains only a limited amount of information. But if I cut it up into smaller units the information level increases, and if I shape those units into a clock then the contained level of information increases again. But the first level of increasing complexity and information always has to be separation.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@dinoid Yes but your answers are completely supernatural, you are borrowing what you call scientific facts for completely different fields of science, and connecting them to draw conclutions. You can not do that and retain scientific integrity, since to do that means having testable, falsifiable evidence checked by experiment, at every stage. Borrowing scientific theory and using it to build vast piles of speculative hyopthesis, way beyond what it was intended to mean, into the realms of supernatural woo, is I think just about the most insulting use of it possible.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 13, 2020:

@dinoid It is insulting to the scientists to misuse the scientific facts (as you call them) they created. PS there are no such things as scientific facts, science does not deal in facts, only theories and experimental evidence.

I joined this site a couple years ago.

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Congrats, felt sure you would make it. ( Wait till you get the invoice for the T-shirt. LOL )

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@whiskywoman Perhaps they think that only men are that lacking in taste, and they don't want them comming back.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@dinoid Then why are you reaching for the supernatural.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@dinoid No I do suppose that it does not mater much if you get Hamiltons and Hoffmans name correct, since you seem quite happy to insult them in every other way, by even associating them with such rubbish And I am seeing all life forms as individual packet of energy, because al life forms are individual packets of energy.

Narcissists for lunch, anyone?

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

Too small, can't read it and it won't enlarge.

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@FrayedBear Thanks.

“Reading furnishes the mind only with materials of knowledge; it is thinking that makes what we ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

I think someone once made a quote. "Educated way beyond his understanding." But I do not know to who that is attributed.

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Diogenes Good morning to you too. Though I have to say that having viewed your posts and comments for some time, I would say that you have a lot of both. Respect.

“Reading furnishes the mind only with materials of knowledge; it is thinking that makes what we ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 12, 2020:

I think someone once made a quote. "Educated way beyond his understanding." But I do not know to who that is attributed.

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Marionville In some ways the phrase is a good summing of all religion, woo and pseudo-science.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Allamanda , Jeff, Dr Donald Hoffman is a Psychologist who holds the view that animals brains do not show them an accurate view of the objective material world, like an image on a camera film, but use icons to represent the world made by the conscious brain. Which are only symbolic but can be manipulated by the brain to get the best behaviour for the animals survival. It is a fairly uncontroversial theory, and following it, you would not expect there to be any reason why any two animal species would use the same symbols, a bit like expecting the desk top icons for mail , calculator, or spreadsheet on a Microsoft, Apple or Linux computer to be the same, or even represent the exact same suit of apps. Each animal will have a different set which suits its needs, there is therefore no question to answer, why each animal would (perhaps) have a different set, it would simply be an accident of history. Asking why is just a bullshit question, like asking why some great outer force, (god ?) did not force Microsoft, Linux and Apple all to use the same icons.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Allamanda comments on Aug 11, 2020:

There are flaws and voids in almost every proposition in your piece, so it's hard to know where to start. Maybe by saying that this is not science. First sentence: when a star's WHAT exceeds it's volume? Second: energy doesn't 'serve' and what pattern, implosion due to something you forgot to put ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

Dear Allamanda, Jeff, Trifid The Hamiltonian is mathematical theorum, in quantum mechanics, which has nothing whatever to do with biology, and it was not even invented by Alexander Hamilton, but by William Rowan Hamilton, ( Alexander was concerned mainly with economics, and also has nothing to do with biology. ) so the name is not even correct. Applying it to biology is a totally illogical step, which can only be based on completely woolly new age thinking and the random use of scientific terms. It has nothing to do with science. PS. There is also a mathematical theory, in graph theory by the same name, which also has nothing to do with biology, and was also not produced by Alexander H.

The controversy rages across the US and the world: to wear a mask or not to wear a mask, and: a ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Sadly I do not think that, "the US and the world" is quite the case. Most of the rest of the world is wondering why there is a controversy in the US at all.

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@Cyklone Stupid may be catching and infectious too.

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Fernapple comments on Aug 10, 2020:

A - doughnut - a- bun. Essence - of - calories. Sweetness- of - refined - white - sugar. Body - of - sweet. And - hole - of, air, Greed - personified. Joy - of - gluten. Germ - of - flour. Baking - made - perfect. Come - into - my - mouth. And - grant - my - weight gain. U R & I...

Fernapple replies on Aug 12, 2020:

@oldFloyd They sound lovely, I don't think that we can get them in the UK, that is a serious problem must look into it. Thank you. It is nice to talk about real and serious things for a change.

When a star exceeds its volume, gravity causes it to implode.

Pedrohbds comments on Aug 11, 2020:

Why do you think there is balance in nature? It is exactly the opposite, if there were balance, there would not be any change. Evolution happens exactly because every organism is intrinsically out of balance and needs to collect mass and energy to keep replicating itself, and generating mistakes ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

I am pleased you wrote this reply, I was not even sure where I wanted to start, you have a lot more patience than me. Respect.

‎Monday, ‎August ‎10, ‎2020 postulate Key GOD is ENERGY - in - LIFE - being - All ...

barjoe comments on Aug 11, 2020:

You have no enemy other than death. Don't be such a coward. Live for today then...fade to black

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@barjoe Santa Claus does not come to children who are really boring. LOL

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Allamanda comments on Aug 10, 2020:

I'm feeling sorry for anyone who didn't know this stuff... I hope they are teaching it to 9-yr olds.

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

Why would the pollitcians, religious leaders and capitalists who mainly control and decide what is taught in the worlds schools want that taught ? Education across the world broken and its broken for a reason. That is not a conspiricy theory, it was not planned it is just the way things are.

Moral? Don't be a group of monkeys. Question things you did not dream questionable.

Fernapple comments on Aug 10, 2020:

Nice metaphor, and I would love to think that that was a real experiment, but sadly I think it is just a made up meme. If anyone does have real history please share.

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@SCal Thank you.

I was a Christian.

St-Sinner comments on Aug 9, 2020:

Christianity is alive and well. Jesus maybe dead but Christianity is alive. Trump was elected by them. But why do you stress yourself. Leave it behind and live the good life of a freethinker. Don't go back to that shit.

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@Green_Soldier71 My thought exactly. If there is any truth in the NT, then it is basically the story of a primitive moral philosopher in a backward country, who is killed at the request of a corrupt religious establishment for questioning it, and how the cult which follows is gradually absorbed into and redirected by the religious establishment to its own ends, probably loosing most, if not all, the original philosophy along the way.

Reminds me of the time my ex and I conspired to give my son a “naughty” Latin phrase to put in ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 10, 2020:

So what is the Maori for feather ?

Fernapple replies on Aug 11, 2020:

@MissKathleen Wonderful.

Bishop: Daughters Should Be Uneducated So They’re Not Smarter Than Husbands | Michael Stone

barjoe comments on Aug 10, 2020:

Even if they are uneducated, they're still smarter than him.

Fernapple replies on Aug 10, 2020:

Funny. That was exactly what I was going to write, but you beat me to it.

God's True Purpose The way I see it, God's only real use is as an escape from death.

Willow_Wisp comments on Aug 9, 2020:

Again with purpose, the most important use of God (God has no purpose) is to for men to claim authority over other people. It's nothing more than a tool for mans misrule over man. That's why Trump wanted a picture of him holding up the ultimate magic charm, the Bible, then the dolt claimed that ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 10, 2020:

Quite so. God is a none existent authority, who can be bought in by his human controllers to end any debate in their favour.

I was a Christian.

St-Sinner comments on Aug 9, 2020:

Christianity is alive and well. Jesus maybe dead but Christianity is alive. Trump was elected by them. But why do you stress yourself. Leave it behind and live the good life of a freethinker. Don't go back to that shit.

Fernapple replies on Aug 10, 2020:

Yes but was Jesus, if he existed, a Christian?

I was a Christian.

AmyTheBruce comments on Aug 9, 2020:

How recent was this crashing and burning? If this is a relatively new thing for you, take heart! It gets easier.

Fernapple replies on Aug 10, 2020:

@Green_Soldier71 Hindenburg, nice original metaphor.

I have purchased the web domain atheistscafe.

bingst comments on Aug 10, 2020:

So you have the domain, have you already gotten hosting? Hosting is the big expense.

Fernapple replies on Aug 10, 2020:

@LovinLarge You can off set some of the cost at least by taking adverts. You may even show a profit which you can use to extend and improve the site, if you get enough followers.

Is Belief in God Necessary for Good Values?

MissKathleen comments on Aug 9, 2020:

Good to see the survey. There has never been a doubt in my mind. I have met many immoral believers, but the majority of non-believers I have met, although few, have had higher morals than all the believers I have ever known.

Fernapple replies on Aug 10, 2020:

We all choose our morals, the difference is that having chosen, the religious then try to claim that their morals have or come from a higher authority. If you are prepared to make arogant and dishonest claims about even the origins of your morality, prehaps to bolster its weaknesses, what does that say about your morals and you as a person.

As you may have heard, I have built a number of different online communities each of which to bring ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 9, 2020:

I find that it is well possible to mainly ignore the political side of the site, and that there is a good, as you put it. "a harmonious group of Secular Humanists; a bastion for civil discourse and a support system for non-believers." Maybe it is easy to see what you are looking for and ignore the ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 9, 2020:

@MissKathleen It seems to me that there are two things here. Firstly, yes you do have to make a little allowance for Admin. If you do go to a lot of trouble to create a site, or anything, which you hope will be a happy place and benefit everyone who visits it. It can be crushing to find it used as a fighting ground where people are being hurt, like opening a shop and then finding it being used as a battle ground by street gangs. And I think that for that reason, a little sympathy should be extended, since I am sure that being a peace keeper was never part of his plan for his future when he started. Secondly, Admin may find himself to be politically to the right of the mainstream members here, and if he feels that he can not continue with that, then it is sad, but a fact of life. So the best thing that members can do, is offer their loyalty and gratitude for what he has done in the past, and then either help him to move on and find someone else to manage the site, or enquire seriously what can be done, if anything, to ammend the situation so that we can still live together.

Did Jewish Slaves Build the Pyramids?

Fernapple comments on Aug 8, 2020:

The most basic story in the old testament, is of semi-nomadic people from the Sinai desert moving into the bottom end of the fertile crescent and trying to take, and hold on to, land there. That probably happened continually for hundreds if not thousands of years, sometimes in small ways and ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 9, 2020:

@Petter Thank you, you are very kind.

Did Jewish Slaves Build the Pyramids?

Fernapple comments on Aug 8, 2020:

The most basic story in the old testament, is of semi-nomadic people from the Sinai desert moving into the bottom end of the fertile crescent and trying to take, and hold on to, land there. That probably happened continually for hundreds if not thousands of years, sometimes in small ways and ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 9, 2020:

@Petter Thank you. Was only thinking out loud.

‎Friday, ‎August ‎07, ‎2020 as many detractors - have requested - a postulate that is - ...

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 8, 2020:

I know in going to regret this but here goes... > I am that which I have so chosen to be How does one chose to be what they are? > eternal in its very nature I do not accept that as a statement of fact. It is theorized that the universe will end in heat death. Even if we can't know ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 8, 2020:

@JeffMurray Indeed you have, but I do not think he is listening.

While watching TV this morning, I saw a commercial for Peter Popoff's "Miracle Spring Water"!! I ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 8, 2020:

Hey. I know some places where they give you grape juice, which is only pretending to be wine, and they will tell you it is in fact blood, and that it will make you live forever if you drink it. Surely that has to be against the trade descriptions laws, fake goods or what.

Fernapple replies on Aug 8, 2020:

@LenHazell53 Yes thank you. I was not of course being serious, but detail is always invaluable.

‎Friday, ‎August ‎07, ‎2020 as many detractors - have requested - a postulate that is - ...

ChestRockfield comments on Aug 8, 2020:

I know in going to regret this but here goes... > I am that which I have so chosen to be How does one chose to be what they are? > eternal in its very nature I do not accept that as a statement of fact. It is theorized that the universe will end in heat death. Even if we can't know ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 8, 2020:

@JeffMurray Well done Jeff, respect, you sure are a trying, but sometimes you have to ask yourself if all the hard work is going to get you anywhere.

Rituals of Waiting - or one more 'how I'm surviving the pandemic' piece.

Fernapple comments on Aug 8, 2020:

For what it is worth, you are far from being alone in feeling like that.

Fernapple replies on Aug 8, 2020:

@Allamanda We are lucky both, in that we have gardens, must be truly miserable if you had to spend the time in a city flat.

I now have independent confirmation of my belief!!!! There is a.

AmyTheBruce comments on Aug 7, 2020:

I thought that psychopaths were supposed to be smart? (Did the TV lie to me??!!?)

Fernapple replies on Aug 8, 2020:

I think that you will find that psychopath is not a term which is recognized any longer in medical science, the idea has been debunked. It was always said, in the popular meaning, that they had a tended to have a certain base level of intelligence, by default, because those who did not,would generally have been diagnosed with another condition, such as autisim or learning difficulties of various kinds. That's probably more than you want to know, sorry to be a bore.

I am in a quandry and would like some opinions.

Mark013 comments on Aug 7, 2020:

I don't know why money should be a part of grieving but if you feel you need to contribute something to satisfy that request, donate quietly to some charity your cousin would have also approved. Food pantry, homeless shelter, etc.

Fernapple replies on Aug 7, 2020:

@IrishTxJudy Donate where you want, then send a card saying where you donated. If there is any pushing and shoving, just say you could not get the St Whatever, web site to work.

This may be a bit basic for most people here, but it is rare to hear sound good advice about the ...

tinkercreek comments on Aug 7, 2020:

Objection! I have a 1'x3' planter for growing salad lettuce. I purchased 2 6-paks and planted into organic soil mix in the planter, forming a nice quick-growing blanket of leaf lettuce. I snip 1/2 the lot at a time, refrigerate in a ziplock bag, gives me about 3 dinner salads. Then the next 1/2 has ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 7, 2020:

Like I say, some questionable. Experienced gardeners can often get away with things that a beginer would strugle with, but you have to play safe until you really know your onions, as it were.

Critic, or admirer ? [youtube.com]

HankSherman comments on Aug 6, 2020:

Having known a few ass, I would expect it to either leave, or attack, if it were not an admirer.

Fernapple replies on Aug 6, 2020:

That is very insightful thank you.

One of the blooms on my Amaryllis belladonna was a double ! so I captured it for the horticultural ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 6, 2020:

Teeny tiny snail, but what big eyes.

Fernapple replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@dede18 Yep those are the eyes, and they can pull them in before they go back into the shell when threatened. A neat trick yes. But just don't ask about snail and slug sex life. Actually you can. I just posted a bit on the Naturual History group about it. https://agnostic.com/group/naturalhistory/discussion/522130/thought-the-group-would-enjoy-a-little-porn-ok-just-kidding-but-this-is-fascinating-you-will-find

I’m curious of the algorithm calculating the compatibility percentage.

Allamanda comments on Aug 6, 2020:

Funny I have the opposite impression - the site frequently throws up 100% and 99% etc for me, and when I look at the profiles its hilariously off. Including other hetero women. Plus the age-range you chose to be contacted by evidently doesn't work, as I have had approaches from people my son's age. ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@Cutiebeauty Yep, thought so kinda guessed.

I’m curious of the algorithm calculating the compatibility percentage.

Allamanda comments on Aug 6, 2020:

Funny I have the opposite impression - the site frequently throws up 100% and 99% etc for me, and when I look at the profiles its hilariously off. Including other hetero women. Plus the age-range you chose to be contacted by evidently doesn't work, as I have had approaches from people my son's age. ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@barjoe That's what the question at the top of the page was. Seems nobody knows.

Who & What - U R - Not - U R - Not - just a - sentient - Individual - mammal - U R - Not - ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

I am a person who only uses hyphens now and again, mainly when I am pedaling pseudo-truth. Take care its a bad world out here.

Fernapple replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@JeffMurray Thank you.

A strange thing happened on here a couple of days ago.

Backslidden comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Someone once said the same things to me. I knew it was a scam, and played along for a while, but got bored and opted out of the conversation. You were cute at 12, weren't we all??? I too have lost it as I aged. But smarter now to know that looks are the least important asset of a person.

Fernapple replies on Aug 6, 2020:

I think that you have aged very well if your photo is really you. Some people lose their cuteness but grow in grace.

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Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Basically I agree with you, and certainly modern life is on the whole a vastly greater threat to human health overall than the virus. Though it could be said that the virus is a creation of modern lifestyles as well. Since it is clearly only a problem because, we have massive over population, over ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 6, 2020:

@Barnie2years Thank you.

Who & What - U R - Not - U R - Not - just a - sentient - Individual - mammal - U R - Not - ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

I am a person who only uses hyphens now and again, mainly when I am pedaling pseudo-truth. Take care its a bad world out here.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@JeffMurray Interesting, perhaps it is a trans-Atlantic thing, my dictionary says that this - is a hyphen and is used to join two words ?

Who & What - U R - Not - U R - Not - just a - sentient - Individual - mammal - U R - Not - ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

I am a person who only uses hyphens now and again, mainly when I am pedaling pseudo-truth. Take care its a bad world out here.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@JeffMurray Sorry not very good at the grammar myself either.

A strange thing happened on here a couple of days ago.

Lorajay comments on Aug 5, 2020:

I think people that don't read bios are usually scammers. I enjoy your posts as well but I have a feeling anyone that doesn't read a bio doesn't actually read the posts very carefully either. I hope you Use a picture for your icon that you want to. There is no way we can control other ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

Was not too concerned thank you. This post was entered under humour. But I retire soon so the truth can come out, including an up to date picture, you have been warned.

The tragedy in Oklahoma City was the result of 2 tons of ammonium nitrate.

t1nick comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Lora, I think you might to recheck. I think its reversed. I think Hiroshima was 16 times greater than Beirut explosion.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@Lorajay You can still edit your post.

Critic, or admirer ? [youtube.com]

tinkercreek comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Accompanying Vocalist!!

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

He's good to.

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Angelamelek comments on Aug 4, 2020:

Lovely photos. Thanks for the descriptive captions... I need to step up my game and provide more context lol thanks for sharing

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

If your photos speak for themselves, which yours seem to, I liked the clouds and seashore just as, it is not needed, this was a narrative though, and perhaps the relations between the photos would not have been plain without.

If I can’t steelman my opponent’s view to their satisfaction it means I think I’m opposed to ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Or that they have only the delusion that they have a intelligible view. They may not understand their own arguments, because they are not fully or well worked out.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@skado True. But I never regard any discussion as time wasted even if it does go nowhere, I still learn from misunderstandings.

A strange thing happened on here a couple of days ago.

Flowerwall comments on Aug 5, 2020:

If you want to change your picture, change it. If you don't, don't. He didn't read your description clearly, so I wouldn't worry because that was not something you misrepresented. Also, I will say, you have indeed written some very good posts.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

Thank you, it very kind of you to say so. I hope you do not think that I was fishing for compliments, but it was needful to include a reference to the flattery to explain the humour of the story. But anyway thank you.

HELP the Post Office! Just go on down to your local PO and buy some stamps! If everybody spent $20...

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

You are so lucky to have a post office, which I presume is a national institution. In the UK the Thatcher person sold ours off, so that her capitalist mates could asset strip it. So that we are now just about the only nation in the world without a national postal service, which serves the nations ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@dermot235 Sorry my mistake. I remember Thatcher, because of course she made a lot of noise about wanting to do it but was blocked at that time.

If I can’t steelman my opponent’s view to their satisfaction it means I think I’m opposed to ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Or that they have only the delusion that they have a intelligible view. They may not understand their own arguments, because they are not fully or well worked out.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@skado Yes if you can steelman them then that is one of the main benefits, but I would still hold that most times if you can not steelman them then it is probably because their views are incoherent to the point of illogic. The method I always use to steelman an argument, is the old one of working through the arguments, as if you were going to have to explain them to a class of students, so far it has not failed me.

Why would a lifelong atheist suddenly decide to become baptized into Mormonism and be going on a ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Could be a lady, and it could also be that if he does not smoke, drink, or do coffee, he is attracted to a lifestyle where he gets easy approval for what he does anyway, though he may find the approval fades when he joins and he is no longer a newby. However a lady will probably be almost ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@OwlInASack Its easy for me to talk, now I have turned sixty life is starting to relax its grip a bit. LOL

Hi everybody, how are you coping with COVID 19.

MissKathleen comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Not getting fat, not watching TLC, not rearranging the house. Doing fine. Currently visiting family in the mountains.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

Envy, for the chance to get away and visit the mountains, I would even put up with family too.

hi everyone! its been 2 years since i posted something here.

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Hello, nearly a founder member.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@Basem Thank you.

hi everyone! its been 2 years since i posted something here.

Fernapple comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Hello, nearly a founder member.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@Basem Thanks, I am nearly a newby but finding it fun here.

It's actually true. The one thing that's almost magic.

Sticks48 comments on Aug 5, 2020:

Until you go to Walmart, look around at the folks shopping there, and watch the magic disappear.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

You could get into a lot of trouble with Walmart shoppers for that.

Critic, or admirer ? [youtube.com]

dalefvictor comments on Aug 4, 2020:

It is a sing along, he like the attention and is trying to help with the tune.

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

My thought too.

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fishline79 comments on Aug 4, 2020:

In the Cotswalds?

Fernapple replies on Aug 5, 2020:

@fishline79 Oh we can and do fowl our nest, just perhaps not a much as some countries.

Just went out the other day and took some photos of cottage gardens.

Spinliesel comments on Aug 4, 2020:

For many years, I have worked in my garden. I have been lucky to have good soil, great drainage, and many mature trees. About ten years ago, I considered my garden to be as close to my ideal as I could get. Then I started having accidents and breaking bones, left arm and wrist one year`; right ...

Fernapple replies on Aug 4, 2020:

Very true, the art of maintainence is very underated, making a garden is relatively easy, finding the skills and the commitment to keep it good, that is a real challenge. Mind you a lot of gardeners who are in the know would say that it is very brave to plant bamboo and vines at all.

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fishline79 comments on Aug 4, 2020:

In the Cotswalds?

Fernapple replies on Aug 4, 2020:

Lincolnshire wolds, same sort of chalk/limestone country, but a lot less well known and much quieter but just as interesting I think anyway.

More work on the different religiosities of N.

Fernapple comments on Aug 3, 2020:

People need culture and community, and if you live in a land where the churches have a near monopoly on both of those, then, 'meh' no surprise.

Fernapple replies on Aug 4, 2020:

@Allamanda Another factor at work of course, is the separation of church and state. Most countries in Europe have either a close link between the Catholic church and the state, or a state church. That really weakens the churches, because they are not able to provide a true alternative voice to the state, which deprives them of their main product in the market place of ideas, and they are also unable to blame the state for their own failings, yet have to carry some of the blame for the state's crimes, especially in education. The separation of church and state in the US, greatly strengthens the churches, because it gives them a real role to play as opponents to the political establishment, where in Europe the are without any real function, just a government parasite putting out the same message.

........ its really, at this point, is very bad comedy...with a deadly outcome

barjoe comments on Aug 2, 2020:

Wait till he tells about raking forests, buying Greenland, injecting lysol and wanting to date his daughter!

Fernapple replies on Aug 3, 2020:

That is one frightening thought.

Why do right wingers call people sheep all the time as an insult?

PondartIncbendog comments on Aug 2, 2020:

Is a lamb a little Ram?

Fernapple replies on Aug 3, 2020:

Hey you are level 8. Congrates. You know that means, no more meeting sheep at night, in cocktail bars anyway.

Why do right wingers call people sheep all the time as an insult?

PondartIncbendog comments on Aug 2, 2020:

STOP GIVING me a thumbs up!! Is a ram a sheeeeepppppp???????????

Fernapple replies on Aug 3, 2020:

Of course a ram is not a sheep, a ram is a thing you put on the front of ships to sink other ships, a sheep is a soft warm animal used to pre-test knitwear.

More work on the different religiosities of N.

Fernapple comments on Aug 3, 2020:

People need culture and community, and if you live in a land where the churches have a near monopoly on both of those, then, 'meh' no surprise.

Fernapple replies on Aug 3, 2020:

@Allamanda That's another an more complex issue. But one factor of course is that numbers, quantity, does influence quality. In the sense that when you live in a community in which large numbers of people belong to a sub-set, that normalizes the behaviour of the sub-set and thereby makes more extreme forms of that behaviour seem less extreme. That is why I have never had a lot of time for the religious apology, that it is wrong to define a group by the actions and beliefs of its extremists, even to the extent of saying the usual, you are straw maning us whine. "But most of us are not like that. Most Xians, Jews, Moslems, Hindu etc. don't go round bombing abortion clinics." No you may not do so, but you do create the the world in which the extremist swims, you do help them to justify the ideals, shelter and grow them within your community, promote the idea that the texts and traditions they use are respectable, spread knowledge of those ideas, often without qualifications about how evil/dangerous they are if misinterpreted, normalize those paterns of thinking, and shelter and promote those who are nearly, if not quite extreme, but who willingly offer support and encouragement. Therefore, yes, all religious people do have to carry some of the blame and guilt for what their more extreme elements do. The other factor of course is simply that Europe with its rich cultural and educational traditions, does offer more alternatives, enough to encourage a culture of questioning.

Is Aljazeera popular in the united states?

Fernapple comments on Aug 2, 2020:

We get it in the UK and it is often very good. It is important if you can to view as many news media as possible, always especially take the time to view the ones you don't agree with is my attitude. So I do RT, Aljazeera, BBC , ITV, Sky, and just now and then the US ones.

Fernapple replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@FearlessFly IT is not at all credible on most things, (a few) that is exactly why I watch it. In some ways it is very sad, because I have been watching it a long time, even into the pre Putin era, when it was quite credible and its slow decay is very sad to watch.

Have any atheists or anti-theists here (that I haven't blocked) ever designed a website or ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 2, 2020:

Yes I have done three websites. Since I started early in the digital era I tend to write my own htm code, which I still think is the best way, even if it is a little slow though there are lots of ways to make it quicker.

Fernapple replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@LovinLarge Best wishes hope it all works out. Let me know what you do if you can. And you know where to find me.

Have any atheists or anti-theists here (that I haven't blocked) ever designed a website or ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 2, 2020:

Yes I have done three websites. Since I started early in the digital era I tend to write my own htm code, which I still think is the best way, even if it is a little slow though there are lots of ways to make it quicker.

Fernapple replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@LovinLarge IS it a nonereligious web site, in the same sense this one is, or is it just that you don't want to work with a religious pernson ? Oh I forgot to mention, there is a real quick way to make web pages. Just take any document you have, in a word prossesor, say Microsoft Word, open the save menu, give it a new name, use the drop down save as and click, save as htm. Then view on your brouser, to see the code just open it with notepad or anny text editor which does not support htm. That is a very simple game which will give you an idea how it works.

Orchid Rock Rose! A couple months ago, @MarkWD responded to a photo of a Rock Rose (a Texas native) ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 2, 2020:

You may like this. Photographed growing wild in the Algarve region of Portugal back in March.

Fernapple replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@RussRAB Yes they are all shrubs, this white species with the red spots is the most common in Portugal. It often forms heaths with the heather.

Have any atheists or anti-theists here (that I haven't blocked) ever designed a website or ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 2, 2020:

Yes I have done three websites. Since I started early in the digital era I tend to write my own htm code, which I still think is the best way, even if it is a little slow though there are lots of ways to make it quicker.

Fernapple replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@LovinLarge Good web space for a full pro website suitable for a small business , will cost you about eighty to a hundred dollars peranum. Though a site like this you could be into thousands, it depends what you want to do. If you are paying more than a hundered dollars for a basic site, you are being ripped off. You should also budget for registration of a domain name which will cost you about 15 to 20 dollars per year, with a small extra in the first year. Web design by a pro designer will cost about three hundred to a thousand dollars per page, or more. But that is where you can make big savings, because you can build a good webpage and upload it in about ten mins, to a quarter hour. Yes it is a rip off, these people really are charging five hundred to four thousand dollars for an hours work. Your best bet therefore is either to learn to do it yourself, or find a friendly geek who will do it for fun.

Have any atheists or anti-theists here (that I haven't blocked) ever designed a website or ...

Fernapple comments on Aug 2, 2020:

Yes I have done three websites. Since I started early in the digital era I tend to write my own htm code, which I still think is the best way, even if it is a little slow though there are lots of ways to make it quicker.

Fernapple replies on Aug 2, 2020:

@LovinLarge A website like this one would be a very complex undertaking yes, that I think maybe one reason why we use the ready made Facebook system here. My own web design skills certainly don't extend that far, I have only done four basic commercial web-sites and one for a club. However if you are thinking of doing one, I would say get going, because it really is very easy. You can of course get ready made and preformated sites where you just load up your pictures and text, and everything else is done for you, but they are a bit limiting, and writing code is so easy, (I think I could teach the basics in 15 mins, ) and gives you a lot more control. (And its fun.) Another easy way to start is to simply look at a website you like, open it as htm code in a text editor , replace their text and pictures with yours , tweek it to taste, and then simply copy and paste, there are no real copy rights on code when once you have edited it, so there is no problem. One of the things that you have to remember is that web design is not actually all that important, on the web, content is much more important, because all the search engines are built by people like Google and Yell using very high skills at great cost, and they do that inorder to see through design and find content. That is especially so when you are looking at highly specific content, if you are doing a site for say the Boston Bowling Supply Company, Google will send people almost directly to it, as soon as they type a search in, because there will be nothing else with similar wording and content. On the other hand do a site called Sexy #+#!## and you will not likely get many hits, because you are competing with millions. The web really does love speciallity. Good content and knowing your audience are much more important than clever design, which is how the web was made to work and still does to a large extent. Don't be bothered when you get get emails saying, we can design you a website that will get you twenty times the traffic, or up your ranking with google etc., these are just lies. Bulls##t Web Design and Co, of Little Town, really do not have the skills to subvert the search engines, and you do not get anywhere much by trying. There are several good sites like Web Monkey which give tutorials and crib sheets for htm code, and you can get lots of books like 'HTLM for Dummies' from most public libaries, though they will probably tell you more than you really need to know. I will send you a link in the messaging to one of my sites if you like.

We all have a book in us... they say.

Fernapple comments on Jul 31, 2020:

Big book multi volume, should fill a few shelves.

Fernapple replies on Jul 31, 2020:

@Allamanda You can go too far, even with sceptisism.

I'd like to know if others in this forum agree with me on this.

creative51 comments on Jul 31, 2020:

Yes the catholic church has done horrible things AND so has every other church and religion. So now what?

Fernapple replies on Jul 31, 2020:

All organizations are capable of being used to garner wealth, therefore all organization are usable by those who want wealth alone. No one has ever managed to design an organization which could not be corrupted. But only churches make the claim to be divinely inspired and incorruptable.