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Are Canadians really tolerant of the diversity or just way too polite to express discontent?

sambathkumaar 4 Jan 24
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Very tolerant. I was born in France and I can compare. People here in Canada are more tolerant. But we do have racists too ;-(

zedmtl Level 4 Jan 25, 2019
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Very tolerant. We have our prejudices and stereotypes, but are much less likely to allow them to slip into anger, resentment and hostility.

Arouet Level 7 Jan 25, 2019
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Generally speaking, yes, we are more tolerant. But, humans are basically the same everywhere, so the percentage of
the idiots and assholes population is still pretty high.

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Both.

hippydog Level 8 Jan 24, 2019
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some are . . . some aren't . For the most part I see diversity as a positive abut there can be exceptions

I would love to debate about the exceptions. If you are willing to as well?

@sambathkumaar maybe when I get home later ut off to a meeting now

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I have the most experience with Quebec City and environs. My wife and I were both impressed with the easygoing and kind vibe of the people. We actually asked a few locals about it and the consensus response was that the close cohabitation of French, British and indigenous peoples from the get-go has produced a more tolerant default way of being. I have often thought that people who are forced to rely on each other in a harsh environment are more likely to get along because the don't have the luxury not to.

For this reason I've been attracted to the study of remote places ... Lonyearbyen, Reykjavik, Nuuk, Valdez, Barrow ... places where people are more hesitant to be casually dismissive, classist, cliquish or cruel because you're in common cause with everyone else in the community to keep yourselves safe, warm, and your spirits up.

If it weren't for my wife, [grand/step]children and dogs/cats, I might well at least give Longyearbyen, Svalbard, a try ... you don't need a visa or immigrant status to move there, just the ability to pay your own way. I'd give it a year's trial anyway. Also it's nice to think of watching the world burn from a theoretically safe remove [sigh].

mordant Level 8 Jan 24, 2019

The idea is fascinating. What kind of work would you be doing in a remote village or city like that?

@sambathkumaar My work is portable. I'm a 100% telecommute. All I need is a good Internet connection and a willingness to be available for consultation roughly on US west coast time, which would be like 2nd shift over there. And since Norway uses Longyearbyen as the test bed for much of its tech, and the Spitzbergen archipelago is served by an undersea fiber optic cable, it has basically as good an Internet as you'll find anywhere. Everyone has gigabit Ethernet, basically. When you think about it, they probably all need it during the arctic night.

There's passenger jet service daily so it's not a big problem to fly down to Oslo and from there wherever else you need to go. I would need to travel to the US once a year to a business meeting, and I'd have to foot the international part of the trip on my nickel, but that's feasible for me to do and would be an excuse to visit family while I'm at it.

Otherwise of course the smallness of the community (< 3,000) and the limited job opportunities would be the fly in the ointment. If you're not a software developer like me, or a writer, or some other person whose job is not connected to geography, you'd have to work in the local tourism industry probably, or the world seed bank or something else located up there.

@mordant Exciting actually. I would love a remote lifestyle away from the social rules of larger human communes. The chains of debt and family expectations are around both my legs now. Although my mind is free to fly wherever, the physical body is contained by limitations (sigh). Perhaps, messages like yours are pointers towards where I must be looking at. Thanks for sharing! 🙂

@sambathkumaar @sambathkumaar There's one other way to live in Longyearbyen and that is off retirement savings, however, cost of living is quite high. On the other hand there's not as many ways to spend discretionary income.

There is no private real estate for sale. It's a former company town (coal mining, now closed) so it's rental all the way. You even have to rent land to build a house on it. I can never find anything listed online that's available to rent either (apart from hotels, which seem perpetually booked up). Not sure how I'd even visit the place as a tourist unless I planned it out 3 years.

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I would say that genuine politeness comes from a desire to be considerate of others and that would include all members, not just the people you most closely identify with. Certainly our history as Canadians indicates tolerance and acceptance others, no matter the diversity, be it racial, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, political leanings.
Does that mean that Canada is 100% free of intolerant individuals? Absolutely not but at the same time those intolerant types get bad press more often in Canada than they would in most other countries in the world. I find that some Canadians have to really stretch to find the intolerance in others but that doesn't stop them from making the effort to be offended, sometimes over nothing at all.

Surfpirate Level 9 Jan 24, 2019
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My experience with the people in Canada is that they are live and let live kind of people. They do have much better manners than Americans that is for sure!!!

I agree. I have seen similar behaviour myself. The moment I cross the border, I can sense indifference and disrespect in casual walks of life. I am sure people there do it innocently but you can tell the difference once you've experienced cultured lifestyle and you meet with something that is not as cultured. There's nothing wrong in it as long as they don't affect you but then again there's nothing wrong in being polite and humble.

@actofdog well, I'm glad you haven't had any real negative experiences here in the U.S.

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