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Masterpiece Cakeshop is BACK in the news-this time for refusing to bake a cake for a transgender woman. The ONLY question I have is WHY choose this bakery for THIS cake and is ANYONE surprised by this...a bakery that that refused to bake a wedding cake for an LGBTQ wedding and took it all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court....sigh. Are there no other bakers nearby, preferably LGBTQ whom one could choose? Even my small town offers these options!
[washingtonpost.com]

BookDeath 8 Aug 22
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I know -- really. These days, they probably can even order one online from somewhere.

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They did this to stir up trouble and we’ve got it. Masterpiece has filed another lawsuit claiming the state is harassing them. We are going to lose this one, also, and then we’ll have to live with the consequences. Those are not going to be fun.

rainmanjr Level 8 Aug 23, 2018
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I also wouldn't want this bigot anywhere near a cake for me. I think, though, it should be incumbent upon any merchant who systematically restricts services to post those restrictions publicly, so that no one would accidentally walk into a situation of public refusal and potential humiliation. It also lets other consumers decide whether they want to support such a business. My hope would be that he would lose at least as many customers as he'd gain. Regardless, if forced to be open with discrimination, it improves the opportunity for other entrepreneurs to step into the void and cater to diversity.

When it comes to freedom of religious speech, I did not follow the court's reasoning. To me, if you provide a service, such as a cake, you should be able to refuse to put any message on the cake that violates your conscience, such as placing two groom figurines on top. But you should not be free to simply refuse all service to the customers you don't like.

Regardless of all that, the court ruled what it did, and I would not want that shop's cake anyway, even if you paid me. (Welllllll, ...if you paid me a LOT, sure, I'd consider being a cake whore ?)

@icolan not according to the Supreme Court ruling. You, as cake maker, are an "artist" and the cake is your artistic expression. Bleh. Stupid, but that is now law.

@icolan Well I paraphrased, but it also said that, in addition to the commission's expressed hostility, a cake maker is separate from other types of "goods and services" jobs, in that the baker is creating something that represents creative expression, marking it as akin to a clothing designer more than as a restauranteur, for example.

@icolan Not exactly. I agree, it is not clearly precedent-setting, but not meaningless, either. It did leave the question so muddled and unclarified as to invite haters to bring future suits claiming they are like the baker in terms of right to religious expression. They, however wrongly, are surely viewing the ruling as on their side.

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If they did make it I'd be afraid to eat it

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