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What is the difference between bi-sexual, and pan-sexual?

DavidLMt 4 May 11
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I am a bisexual trans woman. I am attracted to men and women, which includes trans men and trans women. I am not sexually attracted to nonbinary nor genderqueer people. If I were, I would label myself pan.

I will date straight men, lesbian women, bisexual men and bisexual women. Which makes sense, because gay men and straight women would not be interested in dating a trans woman, so it's mutual.

MollyBell Level 7 May 13, 2018
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Pansexuality is essentially a flavour of bisexuality that doesn't put emphasis on gender presentation or identity. But gender presentation is irrelevant to actual sexuality, which is (by and large, as long as someone isn't intersex or transsexual) whether or not you have a penis or a vagina, and which of those is a prerequisite or a deal breaker in seeking a sexual partner.

The way I've come to see it is that pan is actually on the attraction spectrum rather than the sexuality one, though unfortunately, its creator(s) decided to apply a 'sexual' suffix to it, which makes it read as a sexuality.

So when it comes to sex (what bits you have, what bits they have) you have asexual (no interest), bisexual (interest regardless of sex), heterosexual (other sexes only) and homosexual (same sex only.) When it comes to gender based attraction, you have gay (same gender) straight (other gender) and pan (any gender.)

To a point, pan acknowledges that sex isn't always a binary, but I still see it as primarily about gender presentation attraction. I think some people see it as providing more options than 'bi', which is strictly a merge of same and opposite sex interest. But returning to the Greek roots, 'hetero' means 'other' or 'different' rather than 'opposite', so heterosexuality is interest in sexes other than your own, rather than opposite, and bisexuality can combine homosexuality with heterosexuality to adequately cover all bases.

Wow!, You covered a lot, thank you!

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My GF had a great way of defining them. She's bisexual, partly because she feels different attraction to men and women.

I'm pansexual because I'm attracted to a person, what parts they have isn't important to me.

I do think bi and pan are nearly interchangeable. I think bi can mean attracted to two or more genders/sexes. Pan means all.

SensualAva Level 6 May 11, 2018

Oh -- I think the confusion for me is that there are only two sexes, so I don't understand what the "all" means in "Pan."

@ArgosFriend there's also intersexed. Reproduction often goes "wrong" and there are more combinations than just XX or XY in humans.

@SensualAva Oh -- I see. I love this group because no one judges someone for not knowing something. Instead, like you, they teach. I never even thought of what you said, but now that you said it, yes, I can see that now. Thank you 🙂

@ArgosFriend you're welcome. I'm happy to share science at any point, it's my career.

@Palacinky I'm not sure what you're saying "Yes, but" to.

@Palacinky This is just way over my head I guess. What I know about genetics, I can fit into the eye of a needle. I can tell you why I have brown eyes and my sister has blue. I know basic terms like dominant and recessive. Beyond that, I'm at a loss. I appreciate your scientific knowledge, but I can't follow it. To use a common phrase, ...it's not you, it's me.

@Palacinky Oh, I see. Thank you for simplifying it for me.

@Palacinky Fair enough. I'll consider that in the future. I was just to convey that some make that claim but in reality it's all nature.

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Don't know.

freedom41 Level 9 May 11, 2018
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Pan holds gender identity included. So some bis are not pansexual but mostly what @katrik said

And thanks for asking instead of just assuming or not caring at all

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Depending on definitions used, the answer can vary. Personally I use bisexual as an umbrella term for anyone with sexual attractions to more than one sex. Using this definition there is no meaningful difference between the two.

Katrik Level 7 May 11, 2018

So, for example, if a trans woman was attracted to cis females and other trans women, which would they be, bi, pan or both maybe? Honest question.

@Kafir Well technically she would be a lesbian. The point of being transsexual is to switch from one sex to the other.

@Kafir You have described a lesbian trans woman. I know a lot of trans women, and the majority of them are lesbian.

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A literal dictionary definition of bisexuality, due to the prefix bi-, is sexual or romantic attraction to two sexes (males and females), or to two genders (men and women). Pansexuality, however, composed with the prefix pan-, is the sexual attraction to a person of any sex or gender. Including transgender

paul1967 Level 8 May 11, 2018
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