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Now that's what I'm talkin about ?

taichifan 7 Sep 28
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oden, if I must believe, I believe in blood

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Check & mate

Umbral Level 8 Sep 28, 2018
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Makes perfect sense to me

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I'm an agnostic atheist. I don't positively know that any god exists or not, but I don't believe in any I've heard of. Go ahead & prove I'm mistaken in that belief. I'll wait.

phxbillcee Level 9 Sep 28, 2018

You can't be both an atheist and agnostic. An atheist does not believe that there is a god at: no doubt. So, the argument doesn't work on agnostics.

@taichifan Wrong. Check your definitions. One is a knowledge claim & one is a belief claim, as stated above. & how you can state how I define myself is a bit presumptuous. I can get into more detail, but the essence was stated. I don't positively know, but I don't believe. Should be simple enough!

@phxbillcee I was merely saying that your definition didn't match the dictionary. Upon further review, it does match the dictionary, so I stand corrected by you.

@taichifan Thanks! The definitions for those terms have shifted over the last number of years. Grown more nuanced.

@taichifan Also, any atheist that states they don't believe, with no doubt, is being as obstinate as any theist. It is not something that, at least at this point, & maybe ever, that we can positively "know". We can base our belief, or lack thereof on some types of probability, especially as it relates to particular religions or creator claims, but to state such positively on the idea of a 'god' at all is to base ones belief as much on faith as any theist.

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nice argument

glennlab Level 9 Sep 28, 2018
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