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Retired Labor Prime Minister Paul Keating berates Australian Secret Intelligence organisation directing foreign policy.

Sack ‘nutter’ intel chiefs to mend ties with China, former Aussie PM says amid Huawei row [rt.com]

FrayedBear 9 May 5
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So amid the usual mediafest of babel and bullshit that is beginning after the death of Bob Hawke I recall one instance (One of many) of him doing an absolutely ballistic dummyspit on the occasion of an attempt to bring a Palistinian deligation to Australia to put thier side of the conflict with Israel. From memory I think he blocked thier entry to Australia. This was during the time he led the Australian Council of Trade Unions. Anybody else have thoughts, Knowledge, Opinions regarding this matter?

heritic Level 4 May 16, 2019

It has always puzled me as I am sure that I once heard him on the radio express his contempt for Israel and its treatment of Palestinians. His official pronouncements and behaviour has always belied what I heard.

Can't recall, but fits with his allegiance to Zionism. Hawke went on a Zionist sponsored trip to Israel in 1971. On return he declared... "I am an Israelite". Late on in life in a fit of cognitive dissonance he did criticise the Israeli Government and supported the establishment and recognition of a Palestinian State in the West Bank and Gaza. None the less the Zionist Federation of Australia paid tribute on his death.

@FrayedBear He was in fact Jewish. The line of Jewishness is passed down on the maternal side and although he made much reference to his clergyman father his mother was jewish as was he. Many were puzzeled when at the collapse of apartheid in South Africa he as Prime Minister sent Malcolm Frazier to represent Australia at an eminent persons deligation. Frazier and his wife Tammie were Jewish as was his wife Hazel. His second wife was also Jewish. Politicians often have a hidden agenda and. many Jewish politicians keep it hidden. A not well known fact for instance is that Churchill was Jewish via the line of his mother Lady Randolph Churchill.

@heritic, @Dooley Thank you both for rectifying a small part of my ignorance.

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Note sure where to go to be honest. I spent today reading up on summaries of each of the parties standing in Vic. No one stands out and shouts ‘we will make a difference’. Lots of feeigood rhetoric that is impossible to instigate and the usual ‘we are better than them’ profiled from the big two. Looks like ALP hung parliament to me. At least that would mean Palmer or Hanson don’t get a go in the Big Cgair.

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Jeez I wish someone would tell that rabble of leftover ALP leaders to go fishing during federal elections. As if Keating hadn't done enough to help push the Australian political debate to the Right during his time with egomaniac Hawke. He's still looking for thanks. 30 years of political wasteland for the ALP since his glory econ-rationalism days, and still he won't shut the f--k up. He saved us from being banana republic, and instead created an oligarchy.

I voted today, pre-poll. What a miserable experience voting for Shorten Labor, nothing else to vote for.

David1955 Level 8 May 6, 2019

My emoji is a reflection of the choices available to you - crap, crappier, sloppy turd and crusty soft centred turd.

@FrayedBear any chance you might use the English language to make an articulate point?

@David1955 My Grr/dislike is not that you voted left right or centre. It is at the probability that none of the presenting candidates are fit to or will represent your wishes.

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