I just went ahead and self published on Amazon. But I'm working out how to pitch to an actual publisher.

@Palindromeman Un-self -publish if you're going for traditional. Publishers will see your book as a failure if it doesn't sell in high volumes when self published.

@Palindromeman what are you pitching?

@Lysistrata It's a novel about Jesus and Lucifer - both thrown out of their respective celestial planes - and they need to work together to work it out. There is blasphemy, swearing, a lot of drinking and eating. Some gun play. And the coolest Pope ever. So, you know, it won't play to the church going community.

@Palindromeman Their numbers are dwindling. You're wanting to traditionally publish, but you're worried you're too far out of the mainstream? I think a lot of the mainstream is sick and tired of the mainstream. Lots of publishers recognize that.

@Lysistrata Cool. I will roll the dice. I mean, it's already written, so I'm not sweating on that. Thanks for the advice.

@Palindromeman good luck!

@Palindromeman Excuse my editorial input but have you thought about keeping the story line but changing the characters names and allow the actual meaning of the character to unfold metaphorically? Might be excepted a bit more acceptable to the main stream media. But your storyline sound awesome.

@Fibonacci1618 Thanks for the input. But these characters are set (I've already written a sequel and a set of five novellas). It's JC and Luce. They live in my head.

@Lysistrata yeah consider the popularity of the TV show Lucifer.

@Palindromeman lol ! Nice! Do you brother

@Palindromeman, @Fanburger It's been a while since I attended but from what I recall, the option to Publish and the amount of books versus cost varied on the amount of books ordered. Another variable was whether or not it would be included in their website, and added to their Brick and Mortar outlets (partner stores). I'm sorry about the added vagueness but that all I recall. But the fact that I considered it highly reflects the value that I saw in the process. That's what I got for you. I hope it helped.

@Jenmcjen Indeed. My Lucifer is a little different. I think my version of Jesus may get some right thinking people outraged.

@Jenmcjen, @Fibonacci1618 That is all good, thank you. I thought the writing part was hard. Now for the marketing. Ugh.

@Palindromeman lol! Good luck brother