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LINK Monterey Park Shooting is the 33rd Mass Shooting of 2023 | Time

The total, as of today, is actually 39 mass shootings, thus far in 2023.

And given the numbers are so horrifying to the deniers, the FBI has yet again, decided to change how a "mass shooting" is defined.

It used to be 3 victims, not including the shooter, in one location, described as "one incident."

Then it was 4 victims, not including the shooter, in one location, described as "one incident."

Now? 4 deaths, not including the shooter, in one location, described as one incident.

So, because the truth is too fucking scary, we're now just changing how to catalogue. And we're now calling anything less than 4 deaths, simply "incident". Which is absolutely undeniably ridiculously American.

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SeaGreenEyez 9 Jan 24
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Nope, and your post debunks itself as you refuse to go by the Government standard in measuring mass murder incidents. In reality, so far in 2023 there have been six mass shooting incidents that have left thirty-eight dead. In contrast, so far this year hundreds have been killed in drunk driving incidents that involved an intoxicated driver, and it is estimated that on a daily basis roughly thirty people die in such accidents every day. Of course, alcohol or drugs are no more the problem where intoxicated driving accidents are concerned than guns are in shootings, and the problem lies in irresponsible human beings making poor choices. A car in the wrong hands can be just as deadly a weapon as a gun can be. Here's the source being referred to, and if one were to go by the Congressional Research Service's metrics, who by the way is a branch of Congress and is truly independent where biases are concerned, one would see my figures add up.-[infogalactic.com]

And no, the Government hasn't modified the mass murder metric because the truth is scary to them as you put it, it was modified as it was because four deaths is a fair number to declare it a mass murder/shooting event, judging by the actual number of casualties there were. Also, due to gross exaggerations in the real number of mass shooting incidents by groups like the GunViolenceArchive who have personal agendas, the Government modifies the number of such incidents accordingly to adjust for suicides/organized crime/and gang related violence all of which do NOT constitute random mass shootings, and the data you supplied above did not account for any of that. Besides, whose business is it anyways who takes their own life via a gun? I thought progressive types were in favor of suicide whether it be by oneself or assisted? Do we keep track of suicides by pills or hangings etc? Then why do we track every suicide by gun then? That right there is skewed reporting, and you people want to turn to Government to guide everything else but throw Government metrics to the wolves when they don't align with your own agenda. Simply put, mass shooting incidents are not as commonplace as we are led to believe they are, and the Government knows that and adjusts their data fairly to consider all factors, and I'd trust them over some special interest group any day.

So the Government uses the metrics they do regarding mass shooting incidents to properly account for suicides and gang related violence because neither of them are just some random incidents. You know what else is ridiculously American? Gross exaggerations meant to stir up propaganda, along with personal agendas. No one hates quite like Americans do when said Americans have bias or a personal grudge that gets in the way of facts and fairness. There is no such thing as "gun violence", there is only violent-prone human beings, and that hate and bias is uniquely a problem with human beings, as humans are the problem and not guns or any other destructive means for that matter. Please note my restraint on delving into numbers that would indicate far more Americans per year are murdered with bladed weapons than they are with those dreadful "assault rifles", yet we don't keep track of let alone suggest knife control.

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