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Question? I was speaking with a person the other day who was sharing about being a patriot, the importance a free speech and the right to own guns. I asked him his thoughts about a recent proposal for the government to review your social media involvement and post as part of the application process to buy a handgun.He thought this was a "GREAT" idea, saw it as a way to screen out the, "bad" people. I was speechless. Does anyone have any ideas how you respond to these type of logic?
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Marktzu 6 Dec 7
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Does he not see the potential for abuse or the contradiction in his statements? Was he just being sarcastic?

Janus819 Level 7 Dec 20, 2018
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There goes freedom of speech. Government sticking their noses into my texts. Did you think about the fact that the second amendment is the ultimate protection of the first?

norealgod Level 6 Dec 15, 2018
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With incredulity

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I served in the Army for many years and had my fill of fire arms, but now, with the horrible assault on the second amendment, I made up my mind to buy at least one before it is too late.

norealgod Level 6 Dec 7, 2018
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Some people do believe in Big Brother government, and there are as many different definitions of being a patriot as there are different ways to believe in God. How much freedom versus how much security is a never ending argument and disagreement. The more people live in fear, the more they are willing to sacrifice freedoms for security.

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Ask him which of his basic rights he is most willing to surrender...his freedom of speech or his right to keep and bear arms.

jeshuey Level 8 Dec 7, 2018
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A lot of the liberals would use almost any excuse to prevent you from excerising your 2nd amendment rights. Four judges on the US Supreme Court already don’t recognize the 2nd amendment as giving private citizens the right to possess a firearm.

Trajan61 Level 8 Dec 7, 2018
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It is a very bad idea whenever the government gets involved in ideas. Of course, they are already involved in ideas in many aspects of our lives -- think education as a primary example. But, just because the government is already violating our rights does not mean it's a good idea to expand violations. Who will decide what constitutes a social media post that would prevent someone from being able to purchase a gun? Will it be a left-wing politician that thinks anyone who wants to buy a gun is crazy? Our social media posts are part of our property, within the limits of our contract with the social media company (terms & conditions). Before the government should get access to that information, they should need a warrant -- read the fourth amendment of the constitution.

sfvpool Level 7 Dec 7, 2018
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People who feel that is a good idea do not have a clear understanding of freedom. It's obviously always a BAD idea to give Big Brother a greater access into your personal life. How can that result in anything but a loss of individual freedom and rights?

IAMGROOT Level 7 Dec 7, 2018
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I'm a very live and let live kind of person, but there needs to be limits on everything for the good of society as a whole.

PhoebeCat Level 7 Dec 7, 2018

The good of society is dependent on the good of the individuals in that society.

@GlyndonD
These rights are provided by society and can be removed by the same society if they become more harmful than beneficial to the whole.

And who is the one who decides what is good for society? The Soviet Union of old was a dictatorship in the name of what is good for society. Our constitution was built to protect the minority by not letting the majority enact unconstitutional laws. We must cherish and protect this approach to government. IMHO, the second amendment is necessary for the protection of the first. Once we give it up, we open the floodgates to a police state.

@PhoebeCat, the rights are always there. But you're right -- society can always take them away. They almost always do, and so it will be in America, such that they always will do.

@PhoebeCat, @norealgod, the people who decide which rights are to be removed are the ones who have taken over the government and their police. Taking away rights will always have to be performed under the guidance and direction of violence.

@GlyndonD It is up to you to resist it. The best way of resisting is in the ballot box

@norealgod, unless the people consent to the violence.

@GlyndonD You can only control your own vote, but don't sit by the sidelines. Vote!

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It's a horrific intrusion and nothing about it relates to Liberty.

pinefox Level 6 Dec 7, 2018

Try telling that to some of the liberal idiots on this website. Hell a lot of them consider you to be a criminal for even owning a gun!

I lost all of my firearms in a terrible boating accident. ?

@pinefox, yeah, me, too! I also lost my pellet pistol...

@pinefox If you're interested you're more than welcome to join- "Pro Gun Rights"

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