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Horror across US-Mexico border with multiple parents, infants dead

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{The attacks on immigrant workers escaping home countries devastated by decades of US imperialist violence has provoked outrage in the American population as well.}

Ill point this out again. That is exactly the real reason we have an issue. In which they refuse to acknowledge and address. Those of you in Europe, due to the actions of yours and our countries in the middle east, you're next in decades of the same thing.

William_Mary 8 June 25
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This is why this problem should have been addressed for the last 50 years - We finally have a president with the brains and the balls to do something about it.

gater Level 7 June 25, 2019

Interesting that you think numb nuts has any balls. So far all he has done is call them names, shove them into cages, take their children from them and blame it all on Democrats. Of course, Obama had the highest rate of stopping and returning illegal immigrants but don't let the facts deter you from claiming djt has balls And a pale orange brain which contains so many words. He has more words than the professors so he doesn't have to use them because he knows more about everything than anybody. Always trust someone who tells you He is the only one who can do anything about a problem.

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Trump has shown the balls that no other president in the last 50 years has shown to even start it. Every president treated it like a vote bank and sacred cow. Immigration must be handled tough.

Encourage Legal and Quality Immigration

  1. Encourage students and professionals in science, technology, medicine, engineering, data science, info security.

  2. Develop a point system and grant them fast track green cards.

  3. Study which diaspora have demonstrated high citizenry in last 50 years. Encourage hardworking immigrants with good citizenry from Korea, China, India, Vietnam, Sri Lanka, Japan:

    1. Most law abiding
    2. Highest education
    3. Highest home ownership
    4. Lowest loan defaults
    5. Highest family savings
    6. Lowest unemployment
    7. Productive workforce
    8. High small business entrepreneurship
    9. Zero dependency on social benefits
  4. Attract brightest minds that can run successful organizations like Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Mackenzie, Citigroup etc.and start small businesses.

Stop All Illegal Immigration

  1. Stop cheap labor exploitation from Mexico and Central America. Stop labor slavery.

  2. Stop rapes, deaths, killings, exploitation, sex rackets, child prostitution, human rights and abuse of immigrants crossing at Southern borders

  3. Give white American nationalists an opportunity to pick crop in the fields with fair wages and zero unemployment

  4. Trump voters will be true patriots and can feed America instead of.....

    1. Marrying high school sweethearts
    2. Dropping out of high school
    3. Staying in the same town all life
    4. Applying for food stamps
    5. Fearing United Nations takeover
    6. Toting guns and gun rights
    7. Thinking about God, Cow, Mamma
    8. Listening to church and voting
    9. Restricting women’s rights
    10. Not winning national spelling bee ever
St-Sinner Level 9 June 25, 2019

Yah, you know all those happy people in Norway, Finland and Sweden are killing each other to come here . . . . NOT!

@SiouxcitySue

Think right

  1. A lot of people in the Middle East, Africa and Asia are flocking to Norway, Denmark and Sweden which are better societies because it is closer and easier than crossing the Atlantic to come to the U.S.
  2. Illegal immigrants are flocking from Central America and Mexico to the U.S which is a better society because it is much easier to cross the border - no ocean, no boat, no airplane - just walk to the border.

@St-Sinner Also the likelihood of being killed for not paying someone off is somewhat lower here than in their own country. Also the possibility that a meal will be available, and their church will actually help them. Maybe even a job of some kind, any kind, so their children can grow up and not have to eat pure starchy vegetables just to have something in their bellies. You know, our government purposely involved the US in the internal politics of all the central American countries many many years ago, remember the Iran-Contra situation(?) and when we got what we wanted just walked away.

@SiouxcitySue
So we must be the caretakers of the world while our infrastructure is broken, homeless are rising, rich are making poor more poor? You are talking about nation's generosity because it is not just your money, resources. You are talking mine and other people's. Which family, which community, which nation would do that? Try doing this generosity on own and see how you will need to juggle your priorities. Also try keeping your house door open for needy people. Talk is cheap.

@St-Sinner Thank you.

Your reality is so distorted. From the beginning and throughout this exchange with SiouxcitySue you have managed to provide the real issues while at the same time ignore how they have come about, while also adding some of the answers, seemingly unknowing. The US chose to police in a manor of self benefit in countries that didn't need policed. But for resources and the benefit of corporations and spoils through corrupt IMF exchanges. Then abandon them once the countries went broke. As a new democratic government is brought in by the people attempting to fix it, they replay the cycle. All this playing out while they send our tax dollars to their puppet governments for aid while they hold their fake power. Who often are caught misusing that money in various types of scandals. Speaking of money! I wonder how many billions, if not trillions, it has taken over the decades for the CIA to go in and create the false situations that have started all these elaborate schemes of colonization?

If we are there to make their countries better, then why after are we then forced to provide aid!?! When no aid was needed before we interfered. I give you, Venezuela. Who before we began interfering in again was drastically improving their conditions on their own.

@William_Mary
So you are saying that because the CIA meddled in other countries' affairs, we should take thousands and millions of illegal immigrants.... while millions of qualified, talented legal applicants around the world?

CIA has been meddling in many countries affairs in Asia and Africa. So why not airlift millions of starving children and mothers from there?

@St-Sinner god dam right! If you're going to go fuck someone's country up for the benefit of the global elite you should be prepared to pay for the repercussions you cause. And quite frankly, those actions put them on top of the list. Hardships taken to mind of course in all other cases.

So by your analogy, if the CIA does it, Amen?

Why is it when this issue comes up it's always the Mexican's that get a target on their back? Until recently we rarely even heard about the lower parts of Latin America. You just might want to wonder if this isn't a sign of some kind towards just how devastating things are getting from our actions. Or that it's just recently become and divide issue. I'm going with both.

Speaking of Asia and Africa, lets throw India in there also. While Mexican's make up the majority, there are still another 49% that never get mentioned! And while the graph doesn't indicate Africa, I know dam well we have immigrants from Africa. So I would imagine there are numbers somewhere of them over staying visas also. India, last time I looked it up, was the 4th largest group of immigrants. What about that 1.2 percent from SOuth AMerica we aren;t hearing about? Guess where they are from? The newest fascist power of, that's right Brazil! But they being our new found friend get no mention!?! hmmmmm 2 percent of Cuba's finest elite or upper middle class fleeing a country, from a government geared more towards it;s people. crickets. No really! crickets. That was discovered to be the new weapon Cuba was using against our diplomats there. Mistaken for a sound wave weapon.

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@William_Mary
So why are we just compassionate only about Central American and Mexican children and mothers? Why not airlift from other countries as well? What aren't illegal immigration supporters stepping forward? Let's bring in everybody. We do not need the legal immigration applications at Consulates any more. Airlift everybody from everywhere and bring them all here.

@St-Sinner you keep sending me back to my initial reply. Your answers to my questions are in that one little analogy of yours. If the CIA does it, so be it. Don't do it. There's this thing called diplomacy. That thing we don't use when the global elite set their sites on monetary resources and decide to create false narratives and chaos to get. Leading to death and destruction. It's also something Trump virtually ended when he outed most of our diplomats never replacing them. Now our idea of diplomacy is being conducted by war hawks wishing to fulfill the agenda Wesley Clark warned us about several years ago.

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