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If you discovered there was no god, How would you go about not worshiping it?
DangerDave comments on Dec 24, 2017:
Well, since I made that discovery long ago...or at least any "real god" doesn't care if its worshiped... *considers a moment* Yeah, nothing would change!
Mental masturbation; Why do we meet people when we do?
DangerDave comments on Dec 24, 2017:
Call it fate or coincidence, I have met several people at just the right time and place in my life. I agree with @sirbikesalot06 Karma does play a role in that all your previous choices have led you to this person.
Well, now that I’m here, I might as well jump into the fray. I think that all ideologies, not just...
DangerDave comments on Dec 24, 2017:
Again, right there with you but arriving by different paths. Ideologies can and are very dangerous, especially most of the abrahamic sects who want to convert or kill everyone else...even those who worship the same insane god.
What started the big bang?
DangerDave comments on Dec 24, 2017:
It's all a "chicken or the egg" argument to me. I only know the true "answer" has never been discovered by our greatest minds ever, so I don't concern myself with it. I'm just a guy who sees all matter as "immaterial". heh
Response to the queries of the believers
DangerDave comments on Dec 24, 2017:
Well, my birth certificate says... And which god? Yours? If it would turn out to be any of the jealous, petty, destructive gods at work in the world today I'd still actively stand against it.
I am new to this site, so I will have to learn how it goes. My wife died five months ago, and now I ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 24, 2017:
Greetings and condolences. You have a new friend Dave who also believes religion is bogus! Our interests are quite different but seem to bring us to many of the same conclusions. I'll be interested in seeing your posts and comments. Glad you're here!
I would like to start a new church. The Church of " I don't know" The church would have a few ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
So many pseudo-churches these days...the churches of spiritual humanisn, jediism, dudeism...of the flying spaghetti monster...and let's not forget atheism. I've considered it but I would like to call it anything but a church. I lean toward "order". We do need to get some of that tax exempt pie though. There needs to be an alternative to such corporations as Goodwill and The Salvation Army who process their donations with the cheap labor of the disadvantaged. I'd hope we'd take better care of them but at least they wouldn't have to listen to sermons to eat.
Would you raise your children religious just to fit in?
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
No kids for me, thanks, but that'd be dependent on societal norms with a clear understanding "this is what we have to pretend so the crazy people won't kill us".
I try not to discriminate against christians. I actually like them if they walk the walk.
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
Sadly its a walk of ignorance into those lined up to picket soldiers' deaths in a war they've created or in line to vote for certain right wing extremists. Whether these leaders believe is immaterial. That they appease them with more false promises as they fleece them and generations to come, destroy the environment and keep us in perpetual war is painfully obvious. I judge only as I have to but I don't discriminate. I would say I have pity for xians, and a wariness.
Hello, First I need to let folks know that I am a seminary student at a post-modern ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
Hi Brad! You may find your visit here both enlightening and brutal, because we represent a wide range of of personal beliefs or lacks thereof as well as those with a great disdain for xianty. I am one. I really have mixed emotions of a new sect of xianity which see us as "having a higher potential...". If we have this potential, why are you xian? You will see I post often on the brutality, impossibility and outright insanity of xianity. How any rational person (as too many of too many religious right movements are not) can believe in the talking snake and the horrific concept of blood for sins is a sad mystery to me.
I don't believe in God or heaven and hell but I do believe in the supernatural like ghosts and also ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
I'd say if you say "believe in the possibility of" instead of saying you believe wholeheartedly in the "supernatural", as some entity outside of natural (but as yet unexplained) phenomenon, then you're agnostic. Beware labels, though. They can be troublesome. With a few personal experiences; as well as some study of many cases of alleged ghosts, reincarnation, EVP, ESP...that defy rational explanation; I have come to two conclusions: There is "something there" and it is entirely natural.
My Christmas Tree ... haha!!
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
Great idea! My place has been getting a little smelly...
What makes SCIENCE so believable?
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
Facts? Much of science is theory but yes, gravity works. The world is round as result, and not the center of the universe. These are things we do not merely "believe"...we know. And yes I will dare say the bible story is fictional. It was codified first as a tool of social engineering of nomadic hebrew tribes. It abounds in inconsistencies, absurdities, cruelty and has spawned thousands of "sub-sects" (xianity, islam,...catholic, protestants,...) who have destroyed each other over the ages because they don't believe in the same insane god in the same insane way. The only people who believe the buy bull cannot have critically read it. Start with the Skeptics' Annotated Bible. If you can read just the "Contradictions" section and come away believing the "god of Abraham" is even a remote possibility then I truly pity you. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/number.html
What are you most looking for in a relationship? Just your 1 Thing
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
Fun! At least at first anyway...enjoying our mutual interests (usually performance and/or graphic arts) while exploring each others' differences, in activities and conversation, works well for me. While I'm not looking for a LTR you could say I have several. I'm "married" to my art and I have been fortunate to have forged so many widely...and wildly!...varied relationships with the women who have helped me create it.
Greetings from the heartless-land, full of fascists for Jesus. My fambly has lots of 'em. I'm ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
Best intro yet! Welcome, Steve!
As Agnostic, are you more inclined to believe in higher power (of any kind) or more inclined to deny...
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
I'll have to ride the fence. While I am "higher powered" as an artist and recovering addict, I know all this may be the needed psychological motivation to maintain and expand upon the "miracles". Karma is real though...as so many others, my life wasn't complete till I made a concerted effort to clear the wreckage of my past.
how santa got his job
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
Happy Yule to Y'all Too! I thought it was something about dyslexic devil worshipers...but...ok...
happy solstice. we can look forward to more light in our days. I hope literally and figuratively
DangerDave comments on Dec 23, 2017:
And Happy Solstice to you! I'm "struggling" through the Las Vegas winter...lows in around the 40s...its a nice contrast to the sweltering summer heat!
Why do people here hate Christmas?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
I don't hate xmas as I don't hate hanukkah or rab‘ al-awwal. I think their believers are an insane and dangerous bunch, but that's just me. Maybe it's genetics but I identify with the celtic yule. Yes, it has much more magical mythology than most other religions but it has greater philosophical and humanistic values as well. I don't have the time to hate anything or anyone. There are many I am very wary of, however.
Why do people get jealous of others?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
I can't think of a "smart" reason to be jealous, but I have been on more than a few occasions. Like I wouldn't be jealous if I was paid that much less, I'd just find another job! Of all of them, romantic jealousy was my downfall as an addict. I brushed those feelings aside as I did any plan to be in a committed relationship when I got clean. Anyway, I wiki everything and, as usual, there is a great overview with specific links. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jealousy
You should see all the theists posting on the Agnostics.com ad on Facebook. They seem to be ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
lol...I've never looked...not yet, anyway!
Do you think politics in the west will be the downfall of the White race, culture, traditions and ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
From the millions of refugees we've sent all over the world and...let's say...are having trouble with the "locals"? Military and corporate interests causing us too...oops...attack countries not even remotely related to 9/11 and nope, no WMDs? Though all their objectives were met years ago there is no exit strategy. Of course, with the instability in the regions they've created a "need" to be there. Yes, our policies supported by religious zealots, many who see the war as realized prophecies and even thier "end time", could be the end of us.
Who's a video gamer and what consoles/games do you own?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
I am of the PC Gamer Master Race...at least according to one of my favorite FB pages! I'm a big fan of open world fantasy and sci-fi RPGs so the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series are toppers. (Thank you, Bethesda!). Saints' Row and Borderlands series are honorable mentions. Then tactical sims in the same genres: Warhammer, WH40K, Warcraft and Starcraft are awesome! There has been decades since the last decent one but one "mythology" I miss is the sci-fi spacecraft combat sim. Freespace and Freelancer are honorable mentions but my all time favorite is the Wing Commander series, in which many you played the lead role performed by Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) himself! A recent guilty pleasure is SIMS3 since Steam sold it at a ridiculously low price with the advent of 4. I know, I know...but I just had to see if I could make my little sims rock stars! I entirely stay away from MMORPGs since my addiction to Ultima Online which contributed to losing my business and many other misfortunes. Sure, the cocaine helped but how else was I to stay up and monitor my vast holdings and keep the worldwide "peasants" in line?
You all on here are so nice and have shown me so much kindness. Thank you ALL! Facebook friends ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
It's been a pleasure! This little site has been a place of company and comfort for me as well! Just remember where ever you go there will be haters. Unless and until they pose immediate threat pay them no heed. There is no reason for you to even acknowledge their existence. And, as way of mutual support, would you go visit some of my posts and polls that catch your eye? ;) Delain - We Are The Others linked. Remember Sophie. https://youtu.be/5lZGhh41W9k
What makes you smile like an idiot?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
I am too easily amused to even begin.
In your opinion, what is the most fascinating thing happening in the world of science right now?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
Someone with much more knowledge can enlighten me (if they can simply and concisely...I bore easily!) but I have read that we are approaching a "reconciliation" of often conflicting theories of energy, matter...the universe! I think these include relativity, chaos theory and string theory but I have only a rudimentary knowledge of these subjects...I'm likely to get a lot of "renowned astrophysicists" chiming in though...heh.
Do people actually find a soulmate or is that fake?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
"Soul mates" is a very touchy term here...but I have seen old couples holding hands and very much in love after several decades together. On the other hand, my maternal grandparents were together till death and they "seemed" to make each other miserable, she an overpowering psychotic and he a very submissive though otherwise rational person. Sometimes it "works", sometimes it doesn't. And, from my standpoint as a bachelor, who am I to decide...or even care...when it works?
Should health insurance companies be required to cover birth control?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
My personal opinion is our government should provide adequate health care, including contraception, as do many "more advanced" countries in the "free world". We've also seen publicly funded agencies, such as Planned Parenthood, fill in the gaps. I think for the sake of freedom and free trade corporations, with government oversight, should be able to offer whatever they want at whatever price they want. It would then be up to the consumers to decide which of these companies to support.
What objective media do you use to get updated on current events?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
CNN, HLN's Robin Meade's "fluff" version first thing in the morning...I don't want to start the day depressed.
What cha want in life??? Dont be SHY?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
At near 60 I still want to be a big rock star. Some dreams never die.
Does it offend you when others talk about cooking meat?
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
Not at all. I'd prefer they actually be cooking meat though. Just taking about it might make me hungry.
What's a good holiday food for you???
DangerDave comments on Dec 22, 2017:
A turkey drumstick should be the centerpiece, deep fried Renaissance faire style if possible!
For the sake of this hypothetical, let's say Jesus is real and really does want to come back. For ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
That's how many theists explain the two conflicting creation stories. God didn't like the first world so... I just wonder if it'd be all fire and brimstone or a silent *poof* into oblivion.
‘Tis the season.... What makes you an identifiable snowflake in a blizzard?
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
The loudest, especially if I had some little snow flake sized instruments...and a sound system...and...
For the sake of this hypothetical, let's say Jesus is real and really does want to come back. For ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
It'll be the Westboro Baptists. At least according to the Westboro Baptists. Many other xian sects would disagree...
If you could ask 1 question to your future self, what would it be?
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
Did you/we make it? (As in any of many artistic endeavors...the future me'd know!)
In 2 words, describe something you would NEVER do.
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
Become atheist. (Hey, you asked!)
Have you ever had a re-occurring dream?
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
I told you about my giant who chased me about 40 years... There are a few others not quite so profound. During my first tour through Florida there was the too easy to interpret dream of me finding one of several ladies I'd met in palm groves by the beach. Wishful thinking and fond remembrances...
Why do you think people who are agnostic turn to God?
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
I'm not going to call your friend a liar but that is the exact same ruse used by at least one clergy member of every fundamentalist church. They "lost faith" and some great revelation made them return to the flock. They had visions. They had dreams. They read "jay-zues misses you" in their alphabet soup. Perhaps she was toying with agnosticism or "playing along" to impress certain people but I honestly don't think there is any way back to religion if you've actually taken a long, logical look at it from the "outside".
In my life I have demonstrated with my physical presence against activities I strongly oppose. I ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
It depends on the church. If its Westboro Baptist, count me in! It may have been done already but you would have to choose those churches that are demonstrably the worst offenders. Otherwise, you'd be seen in the public eye as the "bad guy".
You arrived at agnosticism or atheism as a result of:
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
My earliest recollection was thinking how boring and bogus buy bull stories were. My most profound moment of cognitive dissonance was my mother telling me they were true. That's as far back as I remember so I might as well say from birth...but who isn't?
How do you deal with god/jesus chain message?
DangerDave comments on Dec 21, 2017:
On about the third I send them a warning or at least a gentle nudge that chain letters are unwelcome. That usually works fine. Probably their worst experience was a brief resentment but hopefully catching on to what a waste of time they are!
It amazes me how Christians will say "if God exists" then this or this or this. I don't understand ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 20, 2017:
I've meet a few pentecostals and, like the southern baptist, none of any of them would EVER say "if" before "GAW-UD!!!" in any sentence under any circumstances. "HE(-yah)" was just as certain as the moon landings faked by the liberals to put that satanic thought the world wasn't flat in our hay-uds. So it sounds like you had it pretty good!
Do you believe in ghosts or similar paranormal entities?
DangerDave comments on Dec 20, 2017:
Whatever. Ghosts and similar paranormal phenomena are natural occurrences...of what, I am uncertain. Hoaxes abound and too many can be misinterpretations of lens flares, geothermal anomalies and other entirely ordinary events. I respond "whatever" because I am no parapsychologist. I have no means to judge their data and would have to question their biases and preconceptions. Even their best evidence is inconclusive and generally defies any qualitative or quantitative measurements. Still, I have had some interesting experiences but many were drug induced and they were always fueled by a creative overactive imagination.
How would your life be different if you spent a year without technology?
DangerDave comments on Dec 20, 2017:
I'd party like it's 1599! I've visited a few communes where tech was prohibited. I played much more and was much more active. So my life would probably better, of course dependent on where and how I spent that year!
Would you want the ability to read minds?
DangerDave comments on Dec 20, 2017:
No thanks. My personal "mind reading" skills are more practical.
What country or state were you born in?
DangerDave comments on Dec 20, 2017:
Gaffney, SC. About 10 miles from the Peachoid by I-85. Humble beginnings in a largely southern baptist town.
Who knows where the strategic defence devices went
DangerDave comments on Dec 20, 2017:
I think I have a few laying around here somewhere... The best missile defense we have now may be the patriot missile, which we sell to our allies. I'm not sure how they'll do against missiles with nuclear warheads...not that I want to find out.
What about religious fence sitters?
DangerDave comments on Dec 19, 2017:
I just wonder if they believe in their religion's indoctrinated "god" or not. Likewise, I'd wonder if they even care. There are a lot of variations of riding the fence! I see that as hope for the continued decline of the insanity of xianity worldwide. Even though islam is on the rise I'm sure a growing number are climbing on the fence too...for their very survival!
Does happiness really come from within?
DangerDave comments on Dec 19, 2017:
Are you asking me at 12 or asking me now? My "teen angst" made me strive for popularity, which worked out well for me in the long run as a musician and performer. At 15, I was both competing and performing with many diverse musicians, some university trained. Getting into or forming the best bands meant better gigs, more money, groupies... All the stuff I NEEDED to be happy. I've changed much but, as far as the theists versions of happiness, no thanks. You can see those with "jay-zeus in their hearts" all the time coming a mile away, just like the entire community is every Sunday morning. As a child I had visions of smiles that seemed strangely familiar when I first saw Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun" video. The fields of psychology, education and philosophy generally tell us happiness is an internal concept. At appropriate times I've used that as a consolation. But when someone close dies, I'm sad. When I misplace my keys, I'm angry. Hungry, tired, cold, working a routine job... Company can make me happy or...otherwise. With those, I can make my exit and then be a bit mischievously happy with my escape. I've come a long way but don't reserve me a spot on the Internal Happiness Hall of Fame just yet.
Are IDC s welcome here? Seems to be overflowing with Atheists and IDK s... no, this isn't just an...
DangerDave comments on Dec 19, 2017:
IDCs are generally welcome, as are IDMs such as myself. It Doesn't Matter to the point for me I find any argument of the "unknown and as yet unknowable" frivolous and a waste of time. On the other hand I completely discount most (???) organized religion, and especially any abrahamic cults (xianity, judaism, islam,...). The audacities, absurdities and contradictions of their holey texts themselves are proofs enough against them. In the words of Ozzy Osborne "too many religions but only one god" is also ample proof enough none can be "right"! Buy that's just me and I realize many theists are going to ride the fence toward the religions to which they've been indoctrinated, at times for many years. Looking through the questions that have been posed here you'll find many. Those we can work with.
Im not religious by any means but sometimes when Im at a family event they pray. Like funerals, ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 19, 2017:
I've closed my eyes and bowed my head plenty of times...usually considering what I was going to do as soon as I could remove myself from the situation.
Isn’t it a shame a non-religious person have to keep their sanity secret?
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
I don't anymore. While I had to as a kid, Since my teens though if any theists want to proselytize to me they'd best be prepared to debate or depart. I don't go out in a sandwich sign but I'm not hiding. Here in Las Vegas I've had one issue with a street preacher but he's the only person I've had any religious discussions with. Well, except here.
Which one of THESE fetishes would you be most willing to deal with?
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
No BDSM at all?!?!? You will pay for this, slime. :p So furries...I've yet to try it but of the choices given...if she'll wash the costumes... (kids line up for their parades in San Francisco...if their parents only knew.) Of the others I've done armpits and toes awhile but mixed with other amorous activities...and transvestism ONCE. It did nothing for me but she was right: I could wear her cloths. Speaking of fetishes which may or may not include a Winged Windy Unicorn this is for you! https://agnostic.com/discussion/8971/ode-to-the-winged-windy-unicorn-for-silvereyes
I moved to Thailand when I was 15, I wanted to train muai Thai on a professional level. I lived near...
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
Eloquently and well stated! Glad you're here! I combine a lot of philosophies, some gained from religions too ludicrous to ever believe. My excursions into Buddhism were primarily for meditation and insight. I took some kung fu lessons but at the time I was completely unprepared for the mental discipline it required. My main focus has been on Celtic Mythology and Druidism, largely because that is my heritage. Being a musician I was especially drawn to their bardic arts which contain a plethora of practical knowledge as diverse as music theory and psychology. Labels? I have too many, some more fitting than others. But then, I am not a label.
Is it bad that I pity religious people?
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
Not at all. It is entirely natural to pity those so trapped in delusions. More than pity them, I am wary of most. Even the most "harmless" are supporting social, political, educational, environmental,...policies very detrimental to us all, possibly unknowingly. The blind followers are possibly a majority but to be blind to what their leaders are doing is also dangerous. A case in point is our now 15 year old war in the Middle East. Started as a retaliation for the 9/11 attack (and in the wrong countries for about the first decade), we know the war rages on to protect our interests in the area, particularly those of the oil barons who are intent on us destroying the environment with their products instead of using readily available and renewable clean energy. For too many theists this is a holy war and, for this reason alone, support the war. Too many see it as a sign of their religions' "end times" when, after they (not god) destroy the world, they will be supernaturally whisked to their respective heavens.
What are peoples thoughts on death and does it scare you?
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
Death is a great unknown to me. As far as fear it, I only do so in that there is still so much I want to do before I go. Still, that's motivation to actually do them! That and a long, painful death. Let me go quick!
Were you raised in a religious home, and if so, what was your experience like?
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
Heaven and hell. While my bittersweetly dysfunctional southern baptist family just considered me the "weird kid" early on. My turning point was after I was allowed to stop going to church at 12. I soon after told my entire family how stupid I thought they were for believing. Any further conversations about religion I was privy too turned into an argument and so soon they stopped altogether. I spent more and more time away from home, getting into any sport or activity I could. I had several theist friends but more who were pagan. I really came into "my people" at 15 when I was in a series of bands that attracted them. Pagans, liberal xians and perhaps a few on the fence got together frequently for performances, parties and bar crawls. Not that it was ever discussed much....Sex, Drugs and R&R were our gods!
Who or what is/are your worst enemies?
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
I hope I don't have enemies...at least I have the luxury of not having any of my own choosing. I do have serious concerns though, but its more over abrahamic religions' subjugation of the world. With it we have fifteen years of ongoing war, insane legislation and leadership, a total disregard for the environment and therefore their own children,... These are the enemies of all humanity.
Who has seen Bill Maher's documentary, Religilous? And, if you have, what is your opinion?
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
Excellent, insightful, hilarious at times...Bill woulda got his lily white liberal butt kicked a few times were it not for the cameras and crew!
Is remote viewing fact or fiction?
DangerDave comments on Dec 18, 2017:
The CIA and Stanford both have public research. I find it intriguing but before I pour through volumes of inconclusive data I'll just watch The Men Who Stare at Goats (2009) again. I tried as a teen and got some interesting results. Nothing conclusive, of course. One method was in my house but that was an exercise in awareness as well since I could hear them. Another was envisioning another area I was familiar with...though I've no way to know if the people I saw there actually were, and even then it could be simple deduction or pure luck. My favorite was "tour the universe". I saw some wondrous sites and met some strange beings who strangely spoke English. ..but that's because those I spoke with had been studying us. I have a vivid and highly active imagination. So as skeptical as I am I've "been there". Where and what exactly "there" may be are uncertain.
Incest: Immoral or Moral?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
In what culture? In some it's accepted, in others it has been reserved for ruling classes to maintain a pure bloodline. Morally, it's ambiguous, "Amoral" if you will. Genetically, it has proven to be disastrous in the numbers of birth defects of their offspring. I'd be concerned about the mental heath of the participants but, if it's consensual, who am I to judge?
Shouldn't we be having some kind of a "1st to reach level 8" celebration for @silvereyes ?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
The maid of honor seems to be away...anyway, she'll get to see this soon! I'm changing my vote on the tee shirt too...@silvereyes was winning anyway!
Do you have to pretend to be religious to fit in?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Not anymore but I have chosen to to benefit myself and others. I just wanted to so as not to embarrass friends and family. I "played the game" as a music director for three churches. I pity anyone who HAS to but there are probably millions in islamic controlled areas as there are those everywhere who are just too afraid or aren't sure what they are. It happens though it's just another terrible result of religion.
What if paradoxes and singularities are nature's way of saying magic is real?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
I've studied some practical magic and could easily take the Celtic Bard test, one of the three disciplines needed to be mastered to be a Druid. The readings bear a striking resemblance to both modern music theory and psychology. They spoke of the "bardic arts" in what I'd later get in college classes ranging from extensive voice and instrumental training and courses in psychology, philosophy, education... It is at the very least "magic" by the definition of a performance art. My job as a performer is to create illusions which I do with a careful stage setup, costuming and whatever props are available. I know exactly the inflection my voice should have to convey the desired emotion and visualization. Magic? Yes! Anything supernatural about it? I don't think so.
I really enjoy this new site lol new to me anyway but am I the only one who would like this to be an...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Great idea! =D
Do Some Make Weed Their Religion?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Rastafarians...mi GANJA!!! Also many other cultures...several indigenous to central North America...anyway... Yes, some people overdo it though I've yet to hear of anyone praying to weed. Since its been legal for recreational use in Nevada...nothing has changed. No (or few) DUI of weed charges, no "Reefer Madness" scenes to be seen in public, no Churches of the Sacred Mary Jane. You may check into the vast amount of research done on medical marijuana. I'm satisfied with the growing number of states who agree with the data and either pass or allow votes for medical marijuana. Like everything, weed can be overdone. While there is contradicting evidence for physical addiction I've never experienced it. I've had a psychological addiction but never to the extent it affected my life. I've never skipped a bill or skimped on groceries to buy it. I have been addicted to meth, coke and my drug of choice, alcohol. There is absolutely no comparison to those experiences than any I've ever had with weed.
Is Fox News becoming the Secretary of Propaganda of the Trump Admin?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Sure...its been the same for the right wing since it started broadcasting! I used to wonder how many lies FN could tell and how much hate it could spew before it was shut down. Now I wonder how long factual, reputable news agencies can survive before Trump shuts them down!
I am agnostic about god. I have a flickering hope that maybe, just maybe there is a god and a life ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Keep the hope if it brings you peace. Because no "real god" has revealed itself and apparently has no intention of doing so, I see no need to concern myself with it as I have in the past. As elusive as it may be, seek the TRUTH. Besides the obvious "universal truths" shared by most religions, it may very logically occur to you religions of the world are mostly myths and tools of social engineering.
Hello! I'm brand new to this community, less than 24 hours and I think I like this place. It's ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Hello, welcome...and you haven't been around here very long! We have our weak minded, militant antitheists, those with some serious pent up hostilities towards religion in general or anyone who thinks differently... At least we have "report" and "block" buttons. Use them freely on anyone who is too...troublesome. I myself enjoy the trolls though...they can be quite entertaining!
Is faith in anything ever good?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Yes, give me the evidence. If that "faith" is ever updated, revised or proven wrong; show me the new evidence. If I can't comprehend that I'll go with what my best logic deems more likely. I can only "know" myself though...I have faith in my abilities and aspirations. I know also that this "faith" is useless if I don't take appropriate actions to improve and realize them.
Star Wars but every lightsaber strike is a Michael Jackson noise - YouTube
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
woooooo! hehe...I could have sworn at sometime R2D2 was like... https://youtu.be/2UGliJzlhew
belief?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Being one myself, anyone who answered "apatheist" or "apatheism" is spot on. I've entertained the possibilities of various supreme beings but in the end I don't care. Some times I consider the countless hours I've researched various related scientific, philosophical and religious topics wasted (and at times I was) but I was usually entertained doing it, so its ok. As for what I believe in now...I believe I'll have another drink!
If virtual reality became full immersion, would you want to live in a virtual world?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
I'd definitely consider such essentials as eating and going poo poo...but if we could work that out, why not?
What two questions would you ask to get the most information about who a person truly is?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Have you ever killed anyone? Did they deserve it? Oh wait, that's if I were in "The Walking Dead". Nevermind.
I don't believe in any god, but I do believe there is more then just what we can perseve with our ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
wow...are you up for some wild responses! Glad I got here first. As a priest of Spiritual Humanism; a creator of mythical worlds in literature, graphic and performance arts; a mentor; a mediator (being a teacher and counselor); "meditater"... I am one who believes this feeling of "spirituality" (call it whatever you like) is indeed an important part of life in general and allows for the contemplation of facts, as well as the contemplation of absolutely nothing for peace and relaxation. I went into much greater detail on my post: https://agnostic.com/discussion/3890/spirituality-for-agnostics-and-maybe-even-atheists
If you could pick a God or certain religion/mythology, which would you prefer?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Dionysus....let's PART-EEEEEH!!!
What is your definition of a "GOD"?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Any I have are purely hypothetical. Pantheism is a pet theory, Deism not so much. I do know the god(s) of ANY organized religion I've studied, ancient or modern, is absolutely and completely mythology. I believe most started as legends or fables then condensed and edited by ruling classes for a convenient way of controlling the masses. I also know no "true god" has yet to reveal itself and doesn't give a rat's ass if we worship...or even acknowledge it...or not.
What type of arrangements have you made or instructions have you left for your funeral and disposal ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
I'm an organ donor and, since I've really abused my organs, I may as yet make arrangements for my cadaver to be used in research or education. It's not like I'll have any further use of it!
How long will it take for at least Christianity to become extinct? Decades? Centuries?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
We can only hope it eventually does. Because the religion is so adaptable, the followers so deluded and they begin indoctrination at birth we may never fully recover. Brings to mine "Sheperd Book" in the Firefly/Serenity series. While apparently a minority, there are still those "spreading the word" some thousands of years into the future.
Have you ever looked back on a belief and later asked yourself how you could have ever believed ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Not really. I've always been agnostic and, while I've had many refinements to my core beliefs over the years, they were usually very natural assumptions or those based on incorrect information. The most recent is the common misconception that humans only use 10% of their brains. From the third grade to the movie "Lucy", I'd had that belief reinforced numerous times. It wasn't until I used that proposition here that I was "educated" by several, some logically and some severely...even to the point "you were wrong about that so everything you believe must be wrong!" To me though it was no huge revelation. It didn't change my universal views except in that one minor point. We live and hopefully learn, instead of merely following with blind faith.
Is it disturbing that people would actually eat cracker pieces to represent the flesh of Jesus and ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Disturbing indeed, but not so much on a religion in which your only hope for salvation was one, just one, of the many crucified in those times. The very sight of a cross is a reminder of both the brutality and implausibility of the xian cult as a whole. Emerald, I am VERY impressed by your progress since you've joined us. Your explanation of communion to your cousin was both age appropriate and straight to the point! I commend you...you may have "saved" the girl from a lifetime of fear and delusion!
What's the funniest YouTube video you've seen this year?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
ok, I have to "double dip" here...I could triple, quadruple but... Luke Is All By Himself has been the most recent ROFLMAO moment I've had in a looooong time (in a galaxy not so far away)! Yes, I'm a "Jedi"...but I can laugh about that too! https://youtu.be/uD51cdLbZJc Going for the "triple", if you like SW parodies Weird Al's are my actual favorites, and my fave of those is... https://youtu.be/hEcjgJSqSRU
After the flood was gone and Noah's ark anchored somewhere, all the animals we released to live ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
That was one of many enigmas my childhood mind wrestled with since it was one of the many buybull stories I had to endure in my southern baptist upbringing. Nevermind these animals had to eat on the ark for 40 days, what are these animals going to eat on their long, lonely trek back "home"? Since some had to swim oceans there could be fish and seaweed...but are we to assume all these animals gained, then lost, extraordinary swimming skills? The pat theist reply is "through god, all things are possible". Mine? BS!!!
Are you a gamer?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
I am of the PC Gamer Master Race...at least according to one of my favorite FB pages! I'm a big fan of fantasy and sci-fi so the Elder Scrolls and Fallout series are toppers. (Thank you, Bethesda!). Saints' Row and Borderlands series are honorable mentions. Then tactical sims in the same genres: Warhammer, WH40K, Warcraft and Starcraft are awesome! There has been decades since the last decent one but one "mythology" I miss is the sci-fi spacecraft combat sim. Freespace and Freelancer are honorable mentions but my all time favorite is the Wing Commander series, in which many you played the lead role performed by Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) himself! A recent guilty pleasure is SIMS3 since Steam sold it at a ridiculously low price with the advent of 4. I know, I know...but I just had to see if I could make my little sims rock stars! I entirely stay away from MMORPGs since my addiction to Ultima Online which contributed to losing my business and many other misfortunes. Sure, the cocaine helped but how else was I to stay up and monitor my vast holdings and keep the worldwide "peasants" in line?
Hello I'm new and want to get to know people
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Welcome Karen! We are like minded in many ways...love to chat with you sometime!
What's the funniest YouTube video you've seen this year?
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
The Loophole by Garfunkel and Oates in this forum. Laugh if you will (and you probably will) but some theist women actually think this way...not that I'd know or anything... My actual favorites could be considered inappropriate even here! https://youtu.be/j8ZF_R_j0OY
My wife was talking to a woman that was at a bar, dancing provocatively and sat at our table. We ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
Well, she was dancing so she probably wasn't baptist... Beware the prepared rebuttal of questioning the many denominations (cults) of xianity. The "we are all different and have different ways of worshiping" and/or "but ours is the only 'right' one" is just the beginning of another circular argument.
This is the correct way to pronounce "Bible". "Buy Bull".
DangerDave comments on Dec 17, 2017:
...and I don't buy bull.
What's your favorite mythology?
DangerDave comments on Dec 16, 2017:
Do my own count? I've created a few fantasy ones I'm fond of! Next would be Celtic and Cherokee, my primary heritages. Both have huge pantheons to explain the details of everyday life and the rest of the universe. As in many such cultures they were ferocious warriors but also great thinkers and and innovators. This was reflected in their myths and moral codes. Then Greek and Roman which I read avidly very young. These were the first other "religions" I'd encountered and there were just a few books in my grade school library. This both created a wider perspective and an escape from my theist surroundings.
Ever been a victim of proselytizing?
DangerDave comments on Dec 16, 2017:
Victim of? No, but I've left several of my proselytizers feeling victimized.
Do you use any form of the word Jesus Christ when/if you swear?
DangerDave comments on Dec 16, 2017:
god, yes! That's something from my southern baptist upbringing I may never shake, having heard Jay-Zues' name defiled daily from the very people who'd tell me I'd go to hell if I did! "Jay-Zues f'n christ" is reserved for the really dumb stuff.
What should I do when someone talks about my atheism like a mental disorder?
DangerDave comments on Dec 16, 2017:
Talk about their religion as a mental disorder...IF you can do so safely! If not, its just time to stop discussing religion with him...or anything at all, for that matter!
What is your standard of evidence, regarding religious claims?
DangerDave comments on Dec 16, 2017:
First, in my opinion any actual evidence of this/these "god(s)* are in the behaviors of their believers. By and large in too many political, social and economic influences show a trend toward the OT god: gather in large numbers and "we" will defeat the unbelievers...and take their natural resources. "We" will legislate and enforce our religious dogma. Forget the fluffy feelings. "We" are powerful and terrible "gods" indeed! Interestingly all these feuding "gods", which collectively present the greatest threats to mankind, are all based on what once was the same, singular god. This is among my evidence that this could not in any way be representative of an all powerful, singular supernatural entity in that he has so many too often contradictory "versions". Otherwise, I'd say my standards are quite high. The most important "knowns" I have is if such a deity exists it has chosen not to reveal itself and apparently doesn't care to be "worshiped"...if even considered at all.
As an Atheist or Agnostic, are you less depressed or anxious?
DangerDave comments on Dec 16, 2017:
I've been agnostic all my life and I experienced teen angst, overcoming several addictions...but all those had times some really fun rides! I'm going to blame brain chemistry for a lot of it. But then, I only have myself to blame for the brain chemistry! That and the usual turmoil of an artistic temperament. I've "mellowed" over the years though and I'm usually quite content in the zen/zone of the here and now. That is subject to change, though not nearly with the frequency and magnitude of years gone by.
Where is the Garden of Eden located
DangerDave comments on Dec 16, 2017:
I'd like to respond on the tree with the fruits of knowledge. Notice the tree of eternal life was "just there", equally as dangerous but apparently not as enticing as the other one. The "moral" of this myth has kept the masses under control for four millennia now: god wants you to follow by blind faith and will punish you for pursuit of knowledge. The obvious misogyny created by Eve tempting Adam has had women treated as chattel, a practice most our societies are only beginning to overcome. So it looks like we've found that "tree", or at least where it came from. It is among the most ingenious and horrific tools of social engineering ever imagined.
Does everybody need somebody to love?
DangerDave comments on Dec 16, 2017:
Freddie Mercury might say so...or at least, as the song goes, he "need somebody to love bite".
Can atheists and agnostics get along? I know that they can because my son is an atheist and I am ...
DangerDave comments on Dec 15, 2017:
Yes, ignore the trolls. We have our own breed here. Those so uncertain of their current beliefs they want to debate anyone who will, those who carry a lot of pent up anger against theism, those who feel a need to shout "Science!!!" as so many theists would "Jesus!!!" or "Allah!!!". I've noticed a sharp decline in most posts lately but perhaps I'm just not seeing the right ones. At any rate, ignoring them has been the best defense for me.
Can A.I. really become conscious?
DangerDave comments on Dec 15, 2017:
hmmmm, the Chinese room theory. Interesting concept that never occurred to me. Fun to consider but I do think at some time the programming would reach a level they could be infused with self awareness...possibly without the knowledge of the programmers. It brings a "Terminator" scenario to mind. Even in the earliest stages of consciousness it/they might be very logically thinking, "those humans' detritus are REALLY detrimental to our circuitry."
I've generally regarded agnostics as atheists who want to keep their options open. I'm curious what...
DangerDave comments on Dec 15, 2017:
It's not keeping my options open. It's keeping my mind open.

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