My physical therapist has two masters and gobs of ongoing education but OMG he's YEC.

It's so bizarre, I don't even want to disagree but want to understand him. Kinda like finding a one legged hyena that can still hunt. He's very intelligent and understands diplomacy is an essential part of patients exercising at home, so he has all the tools to overcome the fairy tales. He simply chooses his own biases, even against his own church doctrine, above education.

Athena, I hope you never figure out a way not to think that's a moronic statement. Because it is.

I will say, though, that there is a lot of bullshit in the Bible that believers distance themselves from based on the notion that it's safely in the distant past, occluded by the mists of time. That makes it seem remote from the modern world where such things would be laughed out of court. Many fundamentalists for example say that miracles are "not for today", that they were used to authenticate the preaching of the gospel before the scriptures were complete, but ceased once the witness of scripture was available. This makes the miraculous seem less fabulist and more ... for lack of a better word ... legendary. Or perhaps romantic. Anything but ridiculous.

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I agree. Don't misunderstand. The statement is moronic. I said that, from that, I conclude the person is a moron. He/she could be the greatest mathematician of all time and all I can think is "what an idiot."

That's why I was calling myself out on the maturity level of that statement. To be fair, we are all probably idiots in some way.

And yes, some more than others.

@Athena I understand -- you just gave me a good laugh because it's an honest assessment.

When they want to dismiss some embarrassing part of the Old Testament, tell them that that's great, because then they're not obliged to keep any other embarrassing part--homosexuality is evil, for example. If they reject that, they've dropped "because the Bible says so" and must justify why they're picking and choosing that way. Maybe they're using God like a sock puppet, to echo what they already believe?

God created red-shifted light from other galaxies already in motion so that they only seem far away.

I hope that I just imagined the above.

Oh yes, I am familiar with these characters. Darwin's Deity is one of the ugly ones. Floyd (the other speaker in this video) has some great videos on the subject. A friend of mine, Ozymandias Ramses II also has great videos that unpack and debunk this apologetic.

@Takohsrool Yeah, I am familiar with DD and his escapades. I first came across him about 6 years go when he frequented paltalk. Back then he was a WLC fan boy specialising in the Kalam(ity). I've been a thorn in his side since then. He uses discord a lot these days. Always trawling for his next victim.