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PBuck0145 7 Sep 11
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Christianity and Islam are both cherry-picked by various sub-factions both now and throughout history.

The fact remains that most American Muslims are better educated, wealthier and more law-abiding than average, not less. It doesn't matter what their book says, it matters how they interpret and adhere to it.

Similarly, Christians do everything from run free food kitchens for the indigent, to blowing up abortion clinics, to running the torture chambers of the Inquisition or the pogroms of the Crusades, all based on differing interpretations or cherry picking of the Bible. The Bible, by the way, assumes human slavery as normal, promotes patriarchy and gender inequality, and as we can see in Trump's America, is entirely compatible with putting people seeking asylum from persecution and violence into concentration camps, indefinitely and indiscriminately separating children from parents, and of course, giving positions of power to pedophiles and sexual abusers.

So no, I don't buy the fear-mongering and otherizing in this link, it is no more valid for Islam than for Christianity. The most I'll say is that on a global basis, a higher percentage of Muslims are radicalized due to the higher levels of poverty in Muslim societies -- a problem we're going a long way toward making worse with this kind of rhetoric.

How wonderfully politically correct!
Islam's "sacred" texts cannot be "interpreted". They are immutable.

@PBuck0145 Then neither can Christianity's "sacred" texts. Are you ready to style all Christians as terrorists? Are you ready to style all Christians as mindless literalists, when in fact, likely less than 20% hold those views?

@mordant Your statement is based on a false premise. The authors of the Old and New testaments are well known, human, and therefore fallible. The Qur'an purports to be God's (Allah's) words relayed to Muhammad by the angel Gabriel. Therefore, the answer to each of your questions is no.

Not all followers of "the prophet" are terrorists. All who profess the Shahada are required by Muhammad to be jihadists in some fashion, and jihad often entails terrorism.

Incidentally, education, intelligence and rationality are not synonymous. The academic circles boast the best educated, yet academia tends to support regressive leftism, political correctness, safe spaces, censorship, etc. They also tend to support Marxism and Socialism, two failed ideologies.

Educational institutions need to revert to their classical function of teaching how to think, instead of adhering to their current pursuit of indoctrinating what to think.

@PBuck0145 The authorship of most of the OT and NT are traditional attributions or unverified internal claims. There are exceptions, but way fewer than most Christians tend to think. The gospels and the pentateuch are great examples of books widely thought to be written by a specific person but the authors are actually unknown. The Bible is also commonly referred to as "god's word" last I checked and according to how I was raised in the faith, it is verbally inspired by god even if human authors were used. I don't see how that's substantively different than the notion that god used Mohammed to pen the Qur'an.

No, education does not guarantee that one is not an asshat or has workable ideologies. It is still greatly preferable to religious indoctrination however.

@mordant Please do not assume that I am a supporter of Christianity. I simply observe that in current times, it is much less dangerous than is Islam.

I fully agree with your second paragraph.

@PBuck0145 I agree Islam is more dangerous than Christianity overall, though we may well see the cause of that differently.

I did not figure you were defending Christianity, other than putting it on a more elevated inherent basis. I think Christianity has done better by itself than Islam, but different accidents of history might have flipped that around the other way. There's nothing less arrogant or authoritarian or patriarchal or toxic in the Bible vs the Qur'an. And at particular times in history, Christianity has had its share of blood on its hands. Indeed, the current pedophile ring known as the RCC is a modern example of violence in the name of god.

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