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LINK Trump says US will withdraw from nuclear arms treaty with Russia | World news | The Guardian

So... no nuclear deal with iran, no nuclear deal with Russia and no nuclear deal with N. Korea.

I am starting to worry that Trump just may be cumb enough and a big enough idiot to think a nuclear war is winnable.

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He is the most dangerous president ever to hold office and based upon his actions alone should be removed before he gets us in a war

Marine Level 8 Feb 5, 2019
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Hold on here.
I also had a small spike of anxiety when I heard this, but I looked deeper into it. There are some things you should know before passing judgment.

  • The treaty was set to expire.
    It was going to end anyway. He's not cancelling it.

  • Russia intends to violate the treaty.
    They're building a new missile, which the treaty forbade. We asked them to stop. They said fuck you.

  • There was diplomacy, it didn't work.
    We talked to Russia, but their minds were made up back when we had a disagreement over the anti missile defenses.

It seems like Trump's not at fault here. I hate the guy, and I hope he falls off the planet, but I'm going to hate him for good reason.

RawBacons Level 5 Feb 2, 2019
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How about he just gave up. Other presidents have been told "fuck you" by the former USSR, but they kept trying. Trump just stopped trying.

The day after Trump gave up Russia announced they don't plan to continue talks either... meaning until Trump gave up they were at least willing to talk.

@snytiger6 yeah, you're probably right. I guess, since he destroyed notes from his meeting with Putin, we'll never know for sure.
I just thought the facts about the treaty should also be taken into account.

Personally, I hate the guy. I hope he's charged and is found guilty of treason. But I hope the trial is based on facts, not public opinion.

Just what he has done to the envirnment is enoung to remove him.

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In the end it is just an excuse to spend more money on stupid nuclear weapons programmes which have been proven to contribute nothing to society other than a great deal of fear and uncertainty. They should continue to dismantle these programmes, not cancel the treaties.

Denker Level 7 Feb 2, 2019
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OMG 😡

SeaGreenEyez Level 7 Feb 1, 2019
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Oh, yeah because it is like the US have been honest about their nuclear program.

Jolanta Level 8 Feb 1, 2019
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All because of dogmatic fear of Russian aggression lol 😝

Antidronefreeman Level 8 Feb 1, 2019
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Russia routinely invades its neighbors.

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Another big wet kiss from Putin on its way I'm sure.

Tompain1 Level 6 Feb 1, 2019
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I recently rewatched 1983's "Testament" with Jane Alexander. Now, I'm really scared.

HomeAloneSunday Level 6 Feb 1, 2019
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Well folks, it's been nice knowing you all. This could well be the beginning of The End.

Jnei Level 8 Feb 1, 2019
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No one will win a nuclear war. It will kill everyone eventually

benhmiller Level 6 Feb 1, 2019
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The TV show Star Trek the entire planet we live on today was united in one government. They even included other people from other places. For the most part they got along really great. Why is the human race so violent with each other?

benhmiller Level 6 Feb 1, 2019
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Lets see...Racism, religion, greed, sociopaths, will full ignorance, and genetic born stupidity. There are probably more reasons, but I need to eat. smile001.gif

From an evolutionary standpoint, competition for survival is not limited to threats from other species, but each species competes within itself to see who will reproduce and pass on their genes.

From how things are going with humans, I suspect that if there is "intelligent" life on other worlds, that the reason we have not encountered any, besides the light sppeed limitations, is simply that they destroyed themselves, just s humans are doing with the planet Earth, long before they developed technology for interplanetary travel. I'd say it is doubtful humans will reach a point in technology to travel out of hte solar system before we manage to make the planet very inhospitable to human life.

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This is just another act of treason another attack on Americans and could destablize Europe. We are getting ready for world war.

Maindawg Level 7 Feb 1, 2019
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More like the stupid war. Our only real hope is saner heads prevail in Russia, China and Europe. India/Pakistan is what worries me. Or the Republicans take their heads out of their asses and join with the Democrats and impeach Trump and follow up by imprisoning the asshat.

Maybe if Americans stop interfering, bombing and invading other countries that have never done anything to them then everybody could sleep better.

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