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repubatheists 7 Mar 29
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@repubathiests. Effective at what? Destroying the economy? Trampling women's rights? Supporting the embarrassment in the white house out of sheer fear and spinlessness. Please, I'd love to know what the repubs are effective at.

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I suppose you can be a Republican and an atheist, but you certainly can't be a humanist, or possess any compassion or empathy and remain a Republican for long.

That only leaves the selfish, Ayn Rand objectivist atheists, which aligns them with the rest of the selfish heartless Christian hypocrites in the GOP. Let's hope they don't reproduce.

"Humanists" have compassion and empathy? Humanist organizations have supported Black Lives Matter, a group that shuts down major freeways, shouts down speakers and blocks people from attending events. That doesn't sound like compassion and empathy, that sounds like domestic terrorism.

Humanist organizations have also participated in Women's March, an organization where one of the primary co-chairs, Linda Sarsour, is a Muslim activist who is dedicated to building Islam in America, spreading anti-semitism and promoting pro-Palestine efforts. A couple of Women's March co-chairs have praised Louis Farrakhan, leader of Nation of Islam, and one of the most notorious anti-Semites in the US. Compassion and empathy?

Let me make sure I'm understanding you...BLM causes some traffic disrurbances, in order to draw attention to the issue of cops indiscriminately gunning down black people (2 more in the last 10 days). Who again is the "domestic terrorist" in this scenario?

Participating in a march is not the same as endorsing every other speaker or participant. Do you really want to have this particular debate? There is pics and video of Charlottesville and other recent GOP marches, don't forget.

@RationalHuman I would not call shutting down major freeways "traffic disturbances." It is an attack on people - people on freeways can be in emergencies trying to get to the hospital or to help others, and locking them on the freeway is an attack. A pregnant woman was caught in traffic because of people shutting down the road.

Regarding Women's March, unless the organization that participated publishes an official statement noting it does not support aspects of the event, then I consider it endorsement. The shady background of Women's March is not a secret, it is a well discussed topic. This is particularly an issue I have with American Atheists whom was an official partner with Women's March.

I see your point...blocking roads is totally worse than cops shooting unarmed people in the back. Watch out, next thing you know, they might step up the protests to...gasp...kneeling during the national anthem! Child, please. Go clutch your pearls somewhere else.

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Do you think there are 50 of them?

that got a good chuckle.

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huh.... Republican Atheists.... like a School of Red herrings.

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I’ll give it a try. Is republican atheist seem to be a rare breed.

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I didn't know there was such a thing as Republican Atheists. Kind of oxymoron isn't it?

No, if you are more concerned with issues like expansion of Islam, second amendment, taxation, school choice, etc.

@repubatheists I am 77 and I was a Republican until Reagan. I am concerned with lost of issues. However all the problems we have today had started under the Republican administration, including the attempted expansion of Islam, taxation and the problems of education. That's why I've wondered how one can be an atheist and a Republican at the same time.

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I was always stumped by the log cabin republicans.

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Isn’t “Republican Atheist” a self contradiction?

Is Democrat Christian a self contradiction?

@Captain_Feelgood Of course.

@Gatovicolo There are increasing numbers of Christians changing to Democrat. Politics are not so clean cut.

@repubatheists and republicans are typically narrow minded, unfeeling automatons only interested in their pocket book. A typical perfect match for Christians, despite the hype they portray of being all about helping the poor.

@Gatovicolo Haaahahahaha... okay.. Wow.. see, this is why it's hard to even have a reasonable discussion with Liberals.

@Gatovicolo That's funny since many atheist groups are trying to find ways to give their members "purpose" similar to religious groups by setting up Sunday gatherings and doing community volunteering to show they have compassion like religious groups.

@repubatheists ok. I’m an existentialist. I don’t need church. If I need to have a sense of community, I talk to my friends, some people of whom are Christian and some of whom are non Christian. Few, however, are Republican. Some are and I respect their viewpoints, but on the whole I find Republican perspectives to be at best unfeeling and self serving.

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We aren't as scarce as one may think. Being fiscally conservative, socially liberal and a registered Republican actually is a thing.

I actually am surprised how people are coming out of the wood work. It takes time to find them, but they're out there.

A thing that defies logic.

but they haven't been fiscally conservative since Nixon.

@ClaytonE83 Only to those that don't use any.

Sorry, I understand being conservative and atheist for the most part but to be a U.S. republican atheist is hypocracy. It's inherently hypocracy just to be a republican right now but to be an atheist one is astounding.
They demonize atheists, they don't respect us for the most part
They are anti science
They want to indoctrinate kids even in public schools
They arent humanists
They don't want to protect the planet
They literally want the world to end as we know it and keep supporting is real in hopes that biblical prophecy will come true and Jesus will return.
They belittle higher education
They hinder civil rights for women, lgbtq, non white people, and non christians.
Their president elect is a gaslighter and notorious liar.

How do you not have a problem with all or most of this? I could easily keep listing reasons it's hypocritical for an atheist to be a proud republican in 2018.

@ClaytonE83 Wow.. Apparently you're under the impression that Republican equals radical religious zealot/freakazoid ... I see this sort of thing with a lot of liberals and just can't understand where you get this shit.. Republican is a political stance, not a theological one. Here is the overall idea of what a Republican is, taken from a website called Republicanviews.org.

''Core Beliefs:
The core beliefs of the Republican Party are centered on the idea that each person is responsible for their own place within society. The party believes that the government’s role is to enable the people to secure the benefits of society for themselves, their families, and for those who are unable to do so for themselves. Republicans believe in limiting the Government’s intervention in the work of the individual towards prosperity. The government should only intervene when society cannot function at the level of the individual. This also means that the party believes in keeping the government as close to the individual as possible, and should be focused mainly on the state and community level, not centered at a federal level.

The Republican Party’s most important core beliefs, as outlined on their national committee website, are as follows:

The best government for the people is one that is closest to the people, and therefore the government should not interfere unless they are needed.
The strength of the nation lies within the individuals who live in the country, and therefore feel that the individual’s freedom, dignity, and responsibility must come first and foremost in our government.
Free enterprise and encouraging individual initiative are what has brought the country economic prosperity in the past, and what will continue to bring it prosperity today.
The government must practice fiscal responsibility, and allow its people to keep the money that they work for.
America should work to protect national freedom first, while working to spread peace, freedom, and human rights in the world.''

If you'll notice, there's nothing in there about religious beliefs, trying to end the world so somebody named Jesus will return, or hindering the rights of women, gays or non-white people.. And ''anti science''... do you ever hear what you're saying??? Common core conservatism is what drives the entire industrial machine that depends on science.. Seriously, where do you get this crazy idea that we're anti science.. It's just laughable to even see you typed that.. Those are all lies that the liberal party has been feeding you, and you've eaten it up like a starving animal.. As for the rest of your allegations of being anti science, protecting the planet, humanism, etc, is just bs. Encouraging trade school for some students coming out of high school instead of going for a 4-6 year degree in some professional field is not belittling higher education. (do you actually have video of someone saying higher education is stupid? I don't think so.. but if you do, we'd love to see it, otherwise you're just making up another lie to dis on republicans) ..
I could go on, but really see no reason to.

@Captain_Feelgood how does a fiscally conservative yet socially liberal Republican differ from a fiscally conservative, socially Liberal Democrat?

@hankster Obviously differences on other topics such as gun control, global warming/climate change and immigration come up, but you will find both Dems and Repubs will have varying opinions on those from time to time.

@Captain_Feelgood please understand I'm not trying to be confrontational or disrespectful, but I am unable to reconcile those core beliefs with behaviors. when the overwhelming majority of people think that AR15 ownership by the private citizen is a little excessive, and the denial of a lot of scientific evidence for the sake of preserving profits by the Monsantos, and Exxons of the world does not seem to do much to preserve human rights, except for the bought privelidges of the rich. wall street and corporate interests are running this nation. The Republican leadership seems to be in support of this money making OVER the health and safety of the typical citizen. The GOP has catered heavily to the NRAs desires. if it weren't for the NRA gun laws would probably fall along lines that are much more reasonable to me AND most other Americans. I'm not a big fan of the democratic party either. However, the Republican Party preaches a lot about individual rights, then proceeds to pass laws and agendas that allows the banks and big industry to ignore their responsibilities to the society they make their fortunes in. government close to the citizen? that's as far-fetched and hypocritical a statement as I've seen in any kind of core beliefs when you compare it to their actions. everyone cannot be so successful in owning their own Congress. the typical citizen is not represented well in Congress by either party, and the mitch mcconnells of Congress are doing their best to see that it stays that way. Republicans are doing a lot more to prioritize a rich person's rights over a poor person's, and by defunding lots of social programs so they can spend more money on missiles, so that big oil can get subsidies, they are only ensuring their part of corruption's status quo. newt gingrich's neoconservativitism is, in my opinion, the most counterproductive unamerican malarky this nation has ever seen, except perhaps trickle down economics which is the biggest ruse ever played on the American people by the rich. peace.

I appreciate you not wanting to be confrontational, @hankster so I'll be happy to discuss this, if you'd like. So you know, I'm not a staunch Republican per se, but I usually do find myself reluctantly voting for one due to lack of a better candidate. I'll just go in order of your string of thoughts above.
1- ar15.. I'm not sure why you focused on the ar, you probably have the same feeling toward anything considered to be labeled (incorrectly by the way) an assault rifle. If you consider them to be excessive, I'll also assume you would like to see them outlawed. First i'll need to know why you consider them excessive, no need to waste time here rambling on about actual deaths by ar stats if that's not your point.
2- Monsanto and Exxon - As a farmer, I'm not a big fan of Monsanto. I don't grow anything that requires any of their products at the moment, but i know folks that do. They make some products that are quite good, but I'm not a fan of their attempts to monopolize the seed industry. What do you have against them exactly? And Exxon, do you not like fossil fuels all together, or just the fact that they're a big company.. What human rights are they denying people,, again, specifics would be helpful.
3- You make a verbal connection between Republican desire for individual rights, yet pass laws that allow banks and big business to ''ignore their responsibilities to the society''.. I fail to see the connection, please explain.
4- ''government close to the citizen'' is what they shoot for, but sadly fail more often than not. I'm with you there. But that's not solely a problem with the repubs. at all..You know as well as any that the dems are as guilty as anyone. I blame this phenom on the fact that our population has grown faster than our ability to keep our gov. officials in check. It's why we're always pushing for term limits and draining that proverbial swamp.. Politicians are too easily bought off, corruption is rampant, hence our desire for small gov. The smaller it is, the easier it is to keep them in check.
5- repubs prioritizing rich person's rights.... not so.. They do push for self sufficiency, meaning less govt handouts. that's true.. You need to understand, there's always going to be people with more than others.. If you want to live in a country where everyone has the same as everyone else, and gets it from the gov, you should move to a communist country that operates that way for a while. See how you like it. I personally don't mind living in a country that lets you work hard toward a better life, make more money to buy nicer things, without worrying about the gov. over taxing me to pay for those that don't want to work as hard as i do. It promotes innovation, encourages those with extra money to invest in new small businesses and create jobs.. The successful ones get bigger, make more money, they expand, hire more people.. This is a good thing. Yes, we have to have safety nets for the elderly that don't have family to take care of them, and for the handicapped with nobody to take of them. My younger brother is handicapped, and my family all pitch in to take care of him. He's not on welfare or in gov. housing.. We could apply for it, but we don't. That's the way it should be.
I'm curious if you knew, the three richest men in the US, Gates, Buffet, and Bezos, all together worth more than the bottom 50% of the rest of the country... All three are registered Dems. I never hear liberals screaming about them being greedy, or too rich Large corporations are donating money to society all the time. Hospitals, school buildings, sponsoring sports stadiums at their local universities. Do you give them any credit for that, or do you just want to believe they are evil incarnate? PNC Bank decided to put roots here in Raleigh, and then they built the PNC Arena for our NCSU basketball team. that building actually created a shit load of jobs and helps the school out tremendously. Doesn't bother me a bit.
I hope this helps you understand a little better, and I look forward to your response about guns and gov. vs. business, etc..
Cheers 🙂

I should apologize @Captain_Feelgood. I've been to this rodeo too many times. I shouldn't have posted a word. I sincerely wish you peace and stuff.

@hankster I've lived in Sweden for three years, a socialist-leaning country (note, it is not a "socialist" country.) US would not last by implementing Sweden's system. Sweden is having a difficult time already with handling a population of 10 million people and recent mass migration (over 200,000 refugees since 2014). US has a population of 325 million(!). US is socialist enough already, and it's having consequences.

@hankster No need to apologize. But I have to say it's sad to see you're not able to have a discussion about these things. I like seeing people that parrot those Liberal talking points learn something and change their views. I can only say I hope you stop drinking that kool aid and start thinking about the real issues and what their actual causes and affects really are. Cheers.... and stuff

i guess thats the thing @Captain_Feelgood. To some extent we've all been drinking the kool-aid. Its just a flavor thing perhaps. You know, when I became an unbeliever, after having grown up in a very conservative Christian and political environment, it was like my eyes opened a little bit. I remained politically conservative for many more years then my eyes opened up a little bit more. peace.

Well then by all means, open my eyes @hankster .. If you look at what we've said here, we actually agree on some things. So why not discuss the others, rationally.. I mean look,, you're the one that started this,, why now all of a sudden you don't want to talk about it? Is it that you really don't feel that strongly about your arguments, perhaps you read something I said that made you think you may want to think on it some more? What? I'll be here. 🙂

you are a tenacious fellow @Captain_Feelgood. I do not pretend or desire to have any influence concerning your eyes, that's all you. You're right that I started this and I have apologized. I do appreciate your intensity, and what I assume to be a great passion for this Nation as well as the debate surrounding it. Just so that you may understand a bit about the views i hold, i will say.... I think that Humanity is a big giant plop of irrationality in the middle of the universe. I don't diagram Humanity in rows and columns because I think it's more than that. Logic and rational can only measure a portion of what it is to be a society or a person in my opinion.
Our government has become far too monetized and corrupt, both in its legislative operation and their selection process for our candidates. it kind of sucks. I think human dignity and opportunity should come before corporate profits every time. I'm not going to debate these things. you can take them or leave them. maybe you agree with some of these things I don't know.

@Captain_Feelgood Very well stated, couldn't have said it better myself. Good to know I'm not alone on that thought.

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This is not so much Republican as Libertarian.

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This seems like some some sort of troll.

Nope, Republican Atheists is a legit group.

@repubatheists That may be but a large number of them are Libertarian. When the group "The Brights" first got started they had meetings all over the country. I attended a lot and met a lot of conservative atheists and wondered about them. I found out about Libertarians and their goddess Ayn Rand and their Satan Rachael Carson.

@JackPedigo I vaguely identified as libertarian for ten years before registering Republican. There tends to be similarities. But currently I find the GOP platform to be more effective.

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Yeah then can monitor you I suppose

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