I am so behind you on this. Trudeau's government has improved Canada's economy. A lot of people say that he is devisive and ruining the economy. He has made his mistakes yes but nowhere near democratic ones that Harper made. He is the only leader who will actually deal with a heckler and ask others to listen to what the guy has to say. Trudeau is trying to balance everything and that is almost impossible but at least he is trying. Alberta doesn't like him because JT listens to both sides.
The conservative rhetoric makes no sense and Scheer has not demonstrated any class. He has aligned himself with ford and well what more do we need to say about that fiasco. There was a time when at least conservative leaders demonstrated some class but that is out the window now. To say the least, this will remind of us of the old Chinese curse, "May you live in interesting times."

@ToolGuy Well older generations than me reference that one stint NDPs had in Ontario as a fckup and somehow that was their ONE chance to get it right and never more will they be given another chance. I think his name was bob rae?

@ToolGuy Just a few points of clarification: what does BoC-caused mean? And what does POSO mean?

I guess my point was, even IF! that party theoretically fckd up ONCE, the liberals and cons have fckd up numerous times historically yet both those parties get re-elected. -_-

@ToolGuy I suppose it is just diehard cons spreading lies as per usual then. In any case despite what they bitched about from the past, I would still vote NDP, as it is new party members/leaders compared to one from the 80s.

@demifeministgal Ok I am one of those people older than you, and if you talk to Bob Rae he will say that he was proud of what he did. He left the province with a lower deficit than the previous government, the economy was on the upswing, but the media and people who feared just left of centre socialism. People focus on the Rae days but they were a very classy way of making cutbacks. Everyone suffered instead of a select group of unlucky pele who would get laid off. He tried to balance the pain in the most humane way. I guess that says something about the people of Ontario who were unwilling to suffer a little along with their neighbour.

@ToolGuy Harper finished me, & I have never been ndp.

@ToolGuy I don't like politics, or politicians, & I am not interested in any of them. I vote because I have to, but am not party loyal to any.

@ToolGuy I am not political, I don't understand politics, & I am not interested in learning. What you said is waaaaay beyond my level.

@ToolGuy I know that.

Neither will I.

Scheer i do not want anything to do him, consider him another Drump or Ford ,His negative views on women and discriminating against them ,I know trudea has been a disappointment in a lot of ways ,but still would vote that way over Scheer but the green and ndp have some good ideas and probably more up front honest leaders ,The two ladys who were kicked out of the liberal party,would love to see one of them take control of one of the partys,,they seem to want to get rid of old school ,Personally I think partys should be banned for 10 years and all the corruption they bring to parliment and all the members voted in have a free vote so they can really work for the country and there ridings with out being penalized

agree with you

I don't look at him as brainless bimbo boy. He is a guy who is trying to keep everyone happy and is finding out that that is not possible given the diverse needs and wants of the various provinces. He has taken some decisive stands on issues that should be considered important such as the environment, the question of the genocide of native women. His stance against trump. That should be a gage of his effectiveness, how much tRump hates him. And he does.

@Simmer51 His decisive stands end once the speech is over. He is a bit like Trump only prettier and more polite. He says things because he likes how they sound, not because he has either the intention or the will to follow through. "The last FPTP election...", "Because it's 2015...", "We take (insert fuck-up here) very seriously..." Fine sounding words, but to quote another dramaturge, "Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." Trump doesn't hate him; Trump despises him. It's not the same thing.