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I don't know if it's even brainwashing or vanity, instinct is generally very impulsive. And persistent.

alliwant Level 7 Jan 29, 2019
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I fully agree. Procreating isn't an altruistic act. The breeders of the world, by and large, tell the childless that we're selfish for choosing to forego parenthood. Don't get me wrong — there's a real benefit to me in terms of finances and stress by not having kids. But there's also a huge moral imperative, I think, in not bringing a person into the world that necessarily can't consent to its own existence.

resserts Level 8 Jan 29, 2019

How does one gain consent from an unborn non-being, though?

@misternatureboy That's my point: consent can't be given, so it is not within my rights to impose life on another.

@resserts So, in a truly ethical world, life shouldn't exist?

@misternatureboy What I'm referring to doesn't apply to plants, animals, and so forth, but in terms of humans, I think I have a moral obligation to not bring life into the world. For most people, procreating is merely amoral because they've never contemplated the potential harm they're doing to a new person (as opposed to not procreating, which does no harm to the nonexistent person). I don't apply my standard to anyone other than myself, because I don't know whether others have thought it through or not. It's a moral mandate to which I hold only myself.

@resserts Gotcha. I totally see why one should decide to not procreate for ethical reasons. I wanted to understand the scope of your application. Not at Cult Level--check!

@misternatureboy Haha, no, I'm definitely not Heaven's-Gating this philosophy. ?

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My genes aren't that special.

Sticks48 Level 9 Jan 29, 2019
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Thank you! I've always maintained the argument that having a child to feel fulfilled is just as selfish as not having a child to have the time and money to do whatever the heck I please to feel fulfilled!

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