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Do you think a high powered bb/pellet gun/rifle should be on the same restrictions as a firearm? Your modern BB guns probably won't break the skin if pressed against you, and fired. I swear you need a stop watch to see how long it takes to shoot 100 feet. However, CO2 powered bb/pellet are different. I had one when I was about 10. Some high powered bb/pelet will trabel at 700-800 FPS. Your standard 22 LR will travel around 1200 FPS. The speed of sound is about 1100. CO2 powered guns can easily kill at short range. You don't have to go to a FFL to get one. You can buy one on Amazon, and have it shipped to your house. Plus since they are basically silent (look up crack bang) no one will hear it. I heard a rumor that with the advent of powder rifles crossbows were outlawed in places. They were silent.

Thoughts?

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I've got a Crossman pump bb gun,. and you pump it 10v times and it will do some damage. I bought it at Walmart, and no I don't think it should be like other firearms.

MikeFlora Level 7 Oct 25, 2018
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In short, my answer to your question would be no, we the citizens already face enough restrictions on things in daily life. Besides, regulating/outlawing certain objects never made them disappear, people will get ahold of them regardless of any restrictions. Not sure if this is true or not, but supposedly New Jersey classifies air powered weapons/crossbows/slingshots as firearms, as absurd as that is, apparently NJ lawmakers don't know why regular guns are called firearms (key word in there fire). While the muzzle velocity of modern airguns is considerable, the type of ammunition used is a big factor on how lethal said airgun is, and pellets (assuming they are not wadcutters) do far more damage than BB's do. I've got some mad lethal pellets in my inventory, and airguns that get up to 1,400 fps. I'd talk about airguns in the group I host, but I get the feeling not many in that group would be interested though.

SpikeTalon Level 9 Oct 19, 2018

I was really looking for what the gun restriction people were saying, But I'm only getting vague answers.

This topic is on the fence for me. I know some states are very strict about just about anything. There are checkpoints at the california/nevada border that want to confiscate fruit.

I did say firearm specifically, however IIRC the ATF definition is something like "something that fires a projectile with an explosive charge", or something like that.

@TheGreatShadow You'll only get vague answers in this group...

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This should be self evident. We all know there are some who try (and often succeed) in making it more complex than it should be.

JackPedigo Level 9 Oct 18, 2018

Nothing on this land is Self Evident... look at our unpresident... "self evidence" is the first martyr.

@GipsyOfNewSpain Ler's see, taxes and death. Self evident doesn't always mean something legal or even doable under all conditions.

@JackPedigo There are loophole for taxes and if you don't want to pay... You Don't Want to Pay Them. LoopHoles!!!! Death? That's another matter altogether... you can delay and Delay and DELAY... Maybe, many accelerate that Process. I accept you Death.

@GipsyOfNewSpain Ben Franklin once said there are only two things cretin in life. Death and taxes.

@GipsyOfNewSpain Taxes don't just mean the personal type but is hidden in a lot of places, property, sales, state. They are unavoidable.

@JackPedigo Yep... you right.

@TheGreatShadow Cretin is about Right.

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