I just saw Trump saying on facebook that because 1 retired old judge said it, all gun control people want to have the 2nd amendment repealed. We couldn't get the 2nd or any other amendment repealed if we wanted to, here's why.
First we would have to get a bill on the floor of both houses. A simple majority won't work, it has to be a 2/3 majority, or 2/3 of the states have to call for a Constitutional convention.
Then it has to be ratified by 3/4 of the states.
So basically we would need 66 senators, 287 congressmen, and a majority vote in 38 states.
I think you're safe.
Can we stop talking about repealing the 2nd amendment now?
And we don't WANT to ban ALL guns. I mean the vast majority of pro- control people are okay with responsible gun owners having a single shot bolt action rifle (for example) for hunting or target practice. It's only sensible restrictions we want.
There is no need to repeal the 2nd. It guarantees no right to individuals. And the Dept. of Justice could ban assault weapons tomorrow. It was the DoJ that banned fully automatic weapons in the 1920s (or so). No need for an act of Congress.
I’m not in favor of repealing the 2nd amendment. Keep it as is and then use other, more easily changeable legislation to ensure that permits and education are needed, ensure that people who own firearms understand the repercussions of using deadly force or having an accidental discharge, and close the gun show loophole.
As someone who has purchased firearms at gun shows, I’m still not opposed to closing the gun show loophole. It doesn’t take a half-wit to see that allowing anybody to just walk in and buy a firearm is probably a dangerous practice.
They are a tool, practical applications exist for the tool that don’t involve shooting people, but like any other tool that is dangerous (heavy machinery, commercial vehicles, airplanes, welders, etc) there should be some sort of qualification required because of the danger. Hunter’s safety card required for long guns purchased in all venues, concealed carry and self defense training for hand guns and assault rifles purchased in all venues.
sure they're safe, It's the rest of us being slaughtered in the streets. So in short, No, we cannot stop talking about repealing the 2nd nor should we ever stop talking about it. And if it cannot be repealed then introduce a new one narrowing and defining the parameters around the 2nd a little better.
It's too bad we've gotten to that point, having conversations about repealing amendments; but, even if that was to be a discussion somewhere down the line, we have much work to do simply to reduce the number of gun deaths in this country first. Focusing on the 2nd amendment at this time is premature. Hopefully one day we'll be civil enough to get to that question.
There are already restrictions on gun ownership in America, not very many but some. This isn't about repealing the 2nd amendment but safe and reasonable restrictions on who can own a gun, what kinds of guns they can own and what are the responsibilities that go with owning a gun.
A person can legally own a gun before they can legally drink a beer, when did beer become more dangerous than guns?
Convicted felons are banned from owning guns for a decade and yet the Revolutionary Army had felons among their ranks bearing arms and fighting for the right to bear arms, technically speaking all members of the Revolutionary Army were traitors to the crown and therefore the worst of felons.
Should people be able to buy explosive rounds or armour piercing rounds?
There are already restrictions on guns and it isn't unconstitutional, let's get over that silly argument and enact gun laws that any sane person would want.
That's how everything is now. Someone says something and everyone jumps to the negative extreme. I'm 55 years old and I'm telling you, every President since Reagan has been going to go door to door and force every American to give up their guns. And so far, none of them have. Be cause none of them where ever going to. This knee jerk, hysterical reaction is how drama queens try to stop any conversation that isn't going their way. you say gun control, they hear de-armed the public.
Not all gun control people want it repealed. What the majority of them want is adjustments to it as well as other laws for conditions in licensing. Control, not abolishment. There is a difference.
I don't feel this will be resolved until healthcare, including psychological care, becomes affordable for all so that people can get proper screening before licensing. They want to close loopholes in gun shows and private sales so that people who are violent and crack to buy them without being tracked and monitored.
I am all for the freedoms, but an individual's absolute freedom shouldn't be more important than the safety of the majority, ever.
I think I'm pretty dialed-in to the mainstream Democratic ideology, and I NEVER hear repeal mentioned. Literally never. It just simply is not a mainstream idea. But that didn't stop our current president from whipping his voters into a frenzy with lies about it. Shameless opportunist, irresponsible self-promoter.
I agree with this post. The 2nd Amendment debate is a non-starter. While I personally do want to have the 2nd amendment repelled or better dramatically revised, that is beside the point. I recognize that my position is untenable in the current political situation.
Fortunately, words on tweeter are irrelevant. When November comes we will count the votes. Sensible gun laws will be passed and there will be political costs for those who block them.
As a practical matter constitutional amendments are now fabricated by the US Supreme Court whenever they feel like it. The Heller decision giving solid status to the 2nd amendment was passed by a 5 to 4 vote.
The Liberal gun-grabbers would like to confiscate all of the privately owned firearms in the USA, and if they can't do that they will go after the ammunition. They are relentless, and in my opinion often dishonest about their intentions.