This is DJVJ311's opinion of our group
"Gun Control Now!" is not an issue focused group. It is an advocacy and support group
It may be an "echo chamber"
people to venture out from those echo chambers to places where we as a larger community can expect them to hold themselves to higher standards of rational, dispassionate discourse about topics they are passionate about.
This is his opinion which he has a right to. We don't have to like it, but we have to respect it.
I think Mr.DJVJ311 needs to explain himself a lot better about he says this about this group. Especially advocating to keep innocent people from being blown away en mass, for no other reason than they just happened to be standing where they were standing, is a bad thing?
So you're going to take parts of my comment from the community senate group and post it here without asking me or tagging me? Seems like you are not curious what I think and are simply looking for people to bolster your own opinion. That is what this group is. And it should be protected for what it is.
Here is my commentary that is NOT just about this group and should have only been discussed in the Community Senate group, where no response was made and no comments were made by @MikeFlora even though he is a member of that group, had commented on other things on the same post. By doing this, he demonstrates my point.
He even removed the sentence in the middle of the small part he copied where I state my support of this group for exactly what it is. I invite @Admin, and any other members of the Community Senate Group to verify that what is below the following line is my post. I will not go into more detail about that discussion that was supposed to remain in the Community Senate Group
Random suggestion: Group Categories
"Gun Control Now!" is not an issue focused group. It is an advocacy and support group. Such things fulfill a human need and should not be shunned. It may be an "echo chamber" and I don't think anyone should exist entirely in an echo chamber, but I think they are valuable to individuals and communities. I have hopped in a conservative group just to look around and it is much worse from my perspective and I think even a neutral third party would agree it's at least just as bad.
I think that rather than fighting against echo chambers, labeling of echo chambers could do a bit to limit trolling behavior and simultaneously encourage people to venture out from those echo chambers to places where we as a larger community can expect them to hold themselves to higher standards of rational, dispassionate discourse about topics they are passionate about.
The only categories I can think of would be: issue, advocacy, support and interest. Interest groups would be expected to remain on topic(memes, jokes, poetry, whatever). Support groups would be held to civility before rationality. Advocacy groups would be a combination of those 2 criteria. Issue groups would be held to rational, dispassionate discourse. Eventually moderation would be expected to keep those groups going that way explicitly, but just labels would be a start and should be a light lift from the technology side. Even if it's not that effective, it might also be a good place to start whatever the broader, better idea is.
I respect what anyone has to say in a non confrontational and respectful way. At the risk of sounding stupid, I don't know what the term "echo chamber means here". I do not just spout things I have heard elsewhere. My thoughts and opinions about what I believe needs to happen in the gun industry may have been influenced by things I have seen, heard or read, but, to the best of my knowledge, they are MY thoughts and mine alone. If there are other people here who share my stand, then I guess you could say that is a form of support, but is not something I do with intention, it is an outcome of sharing. If I believe strongly enough about something I think should be considered in the gun control discussion then that could be seen as advocacy. How can one talk of an issue, especially one as hot button as this and not have advocacy and support crop up in the process?? It is still an ISSUE we are discussing with a great deal of focus I would say. I think we are getting into semantics here.