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I can’t sleep, so I thought I’d check out something that’s been rattling around in my head:
Libertarians and libertarian philosophy. How do peeps here view this ideology (or is it a lack of ideology?), and those who subscribe to it?
It’s been rattling around since I attempted to comment on something that one of this breed posted, although I didn’t know she was one at the time.
A self proclaimed libertarian, she had an ‘interesting’ profile. I soon forgot all about my comment as I read what can only be described as a narcissistic list of all her virtues and qualities, and which was quite clear that anyone she’d even contemplate dating or meeting had to fully conform to her wants, needs, and beliefs. There was no mention of what she’d be bringing to the party. It was also entirely materialistic. After the second reading, all I was getting in my head was me, me, me, and, oh yes, me!
I’ve met a few who subscribe to libertarianism, and without fail they have all exhibited some form of personality disorder. Indeed, I would lay money on most of them being sociopaths, and some of the rest being psychopaths (clinical, not criminal). They all show(ed) quite remarkable degrees of selfishness, and not a shred of altruism or even plain compassion. They are/were all quite happy with the notion of exploiting others for gain in all aspects of their lives, including personal relationships. They consider(ed) themselves to be good people, in fact the best - everyone who thought differently isn’t/wasn’t worth the time of day.
I think they are nasty and potentially dangerous.
Am I being harsh, or am I on the money, or close to it?

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It's Donald Trump! Does as s hobby when Twitter goes down. Probably best leave it unless you want to get 'shown around' The White House

Geoffrey51 Level 7 July 26, 2018

The only libertarian that I have met was a one legged man from a dating site. His ideas were only half-formed and he could only vague articulate and support them. I never saw him again, but it was not exactly due to him being a libertarian. I am sure that he thought it was his disability, but it was actually because when he spoke, spittle flew from his mouth onto me from across the table. He also held his spoon like a shovel.

Yes, I am shallow.

I found out a lot about him, but he knew nothing about me.


Libertarianism = selfishness.


To be honest I haven't really thought about all what you've written much, but as far as I know you, Kevin, I'd trust your judgement and agree with you 100%

Salmon Level 3 June 9, 2018

From my perspective, Libertarianism seems naive. It seems like the perfect philosophy for people who have been relatively unplugged from what the government does and if anything, somewhat ticked off that there are poor people who need assistance. So there is a selfish mindset there as well. For middle class selfish kids (like me) this made lots of sense when I was just getting out of college. But once out in the real world and meeting new people and having new experiences in the real world (away from my sheltered upbringing), I realized how whacky Libertarians were. It became obvious to me that societies need to remain compassionate and be ready to help out anyone that needs assistance (work together). And governments can play a key role there (and they often have to because selfish people will turn their backs on their less fortunate neighbors). Also, after getting into Systems Thinking, you also realize how complex certain issues can be and how certain fundamental parts of our economy actually cause issues that come back and bite us later. And as much as I dislike the naive Republican viewpoints (another topic huh), Libertarians get under my skin even more. In short, I can forgive someone who is 21 y.o. and starts off this way. But if they are curious people and want to learn, they will soon see how dumb it is. But can't forgive older folks who have never gotten past that naive stage and live such a sheltered life with non-System Thinking habits, that they would still think Libertarianism makes any sense at all.

ddb-vegan Level 4 June 9, 2018

@Beach_slim I have no idea what you mean. The government (here in Dallas for example) does not use violence to help build low-income housing. And what communist does Zuckerburg support? And liberal rich folk for sure give. Look at Bill Gates and his wife.
And you aren't another communism=socialist=nazi are you?
And who is forcing someone else to do what?

@Beach_slim The font of all wisdom speaks. But thanks - I’d forgotten about massive feelings of superiority, and the possesion of a huge ego as being libertarian personality traits. You’ve illustrated them so very well.


I find that the only thing that matters is playing bass and hiking. Trust in your bass sir.

Holysocks Level 7 June 9, 2018

I like how you summed it all up! Yeah, want is she bring to the party? People love to ring their own bell don't they? Yes Sir I think you nailed it?

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