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I've lived too long. When I was a young "Baby Boomer", the only men I saw with elective baldness were Yul Brenner, Telly Savalas, and Neo-Nazis and white supremacist types, and my attitudes regarding the latter groups were formed by the behavior they projected. Even African Americans had hair on their heads and I thought the "Afro" look showed an attitude of independence and protest. Now People of color wouldn't be caught dead with hair on their head. Nowadays, based on those early impressions I find it difficult to discard my prejudice. I simply do not understand why men currently think it is attractive to shave all of the hair off their heads (except for, perhaps a little patch on top, reflecting a militarist or authoritarian attitude) but it's OK to have a beard ending in absurdly pointed reverse sideburns! In my youth, "Skinhead" was a derisive term for reasons that were quite obvious. Is it that young people now don't know what that look used to mean or do they want to project an appearance of domination, aggression, "don't fuck with me" or simply extreme right-wing political views. Let me know what your opinion is on this issue as I, at 71 I am still "letting my freak flag fly" and I don't give a shit who thinks I'm out of style! I think anybody looks better with hair on their head.

fishline79 7 June 25
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Well yes it reflects a mix of things including ignorance of what certain "looks" meant to previous generations, indifference to what it meant, and new meanings being invented. It's the nature of the beast.

I'm 61 and personally am not offended to be attempting to adapt to these changes. I notice myself getting a little more rigid / irascible and I have to fight that but change has been such a constant in my life that I pretty much expect it.

When I first started out in the adult world, particularly outside the cities, just to pick an example, it was pretty universal and unquestioned that you open doors for ladies if you're a gentleman, you pay for dates, things like that. Today, many women (and 3 marriages) later, women are indifferent to such things for the most part and the potential exists for them to be actually offended about such assumptions. This makes perfect sense; women are tired of being infantalized and marginalized. I get it. I hope they also get that I was raised to be gallant and it's nothing personal and filled with good intentions should I "slip" and forget to be rude and boorish for them. But still, I'm glad not to be dealing with the "dating scene" anymore, and if I were single again I'd opt out. I'm too old for that shit.

I hear you. Parents don't teach social skills to their kids. They are afraid (or too busy) to teach them much of anything. You would be amazed at how many young people think it's "gross" to wipe their arse! Your parents can't teach you something like that for fear they'll be arrested for abuse!. They're being too personal! Jeezus, who else is going to teach you? As far as things like opening the door or holding a chair or allowing somebody (male or female) to go through the door first, I did (and still do) all that. If it offends women, that's their problem and not my intention but I still say all this has nothing to do with hairstyles. Have you noticed the latest trends in young people, The hair is virtually cut off on the sides and long and combed back on top ("short back and sides" ca. 1930s and 40s). Look at pictures of Hitler Youth sometime! (or Hitler, for that matter.) It is a Fascist hairstyle. The kids have no idea of that but that's what it is, and I fear for these generations who don't even know why they do what they do because they don't know history.

@fishline79 Fashions, come, go, and come again. The swastika for example was a religious symbol throughout neolithic Eurasia, and had nothing to do with fascism, until it did. I agree that the outsize harms of Nazi Germany mean that the swastika will probably never disassociate itself from Naziism. Any group for the next thousand years would be dumb to pick that symbol to represent themselves unless it's a deliberate embrace of some form of fascistic ideology.

On the other hand ... how far should that go? Brown shirts? Hair styles? By that logic, the Boy Scouts should have long ago been disbanded, as they bear too much resemblance to the Hitler Youth.

In my youth, facial hair was considered by most of the "establishment" as subversive. Now it isn't. So then, is my facial hair that I have had for the past decade or so an indication that I'm a subversive, or merely commonplace and unremarkable?

@mordant I totally agree with the Boy Scouts statement. It is a para-military training org. We have Scouts here in Spain but they combine boys and girls and are totally different from U.S. As for facial hair, the same applies to long hair if you are looking for a job. You can apply for work with a shaved head and tatoos (which, in my day were sported by prisoners and sailors) and have no problem, but long natural hair was always a detrement to getting a job in the U.S. The only thing the "establishment cares about is if you wear a tie! BTW, the swastica most often used in primitive societies (Native Americans, etc.) was usually with the angles going to the left, but you are right about that, but I will never change my mind that hair styles are the most revealing indicators of one's political and social attitudes.

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