I take it that means you don't agree with the present ways of the conservative party? Which I see as only conserving our greatest resources for themselves and corporations.

@William_Mary You got it. Not just conserving the resources for themselves part, but some of what they agree with like allowing the party to become infested with religious maggots and going against reproductive rights to wanting to all but flat out ban private unions which help the working class.

I hope you hang around. I'll give you a reason to question that and hopefully give you reason to redevelop your opinion. 99.9% of the time there is no less destructive candidate when they are working for the same agenda and the same people. If you live in an area you can't vote as an independent, help the fight to change that. Even if you don't want to change. Those that live around you deserve the same rights as you!

Dems And GOP Work Together Like A Boxer’s 1–2 Punch To Knock You Out

[caitlinjohnstone.com]

Caitlin starts this out about the net neutrality vote, but you can replace that, as she goes into some, with any issue of laws and bills and by going back through history see how we get the least towards solving our issues. Today is a prime example of what she is talking about. With republicans in charge of all 3 houses they are undoing quite a lot of what the weak ass democrats have done or failed to do properly. That's by design!

Politics Is a Sport the Rich Play

[ghionjournal.com]

No one can tell you it hurts anymore than myself when you get hit like a 2X4 upside your head when you come to realize everything you believed about your history, country and politics is a mascaraed party. That your perception has been managed for decades by intelligence agencies, your politicians, and your MSM (main stream media), for the benefit of the worlds most elite wealthy. And over that managed perception people around the world are being slaughtered because of the lies of false narratives these entities force upon us in a repetitive brainwashing recycle mode. Yes, it totally sucks. But it's the truth we have to face and confront it.

Yes, there is a growing trend to leave the 2 party establishment. Especially people leaving the democratic party today after what went down in 2016. People are waking up!

I also as I was reading it got the sense it could have just been an article of facts, opinion, and disapproval of the establishment party's. Not worth reading? Hardly the case. Though I agree it could have been written in a different manor, it gave real thought to the poor governing we receive and that which many people are becoming aware of today. Put another way maybe it will enlighten those who think in a way this will give meaning to to readjust there developed opinion. Not worth reading is quite harsh! I and many others have voiced the very same issue within this piece many times as we attempt to spread our opinions. That's all this was.

@William_Mary it's true I was overly abrasive, but this has been argued for years and the result has been the hard right staying solidly Republican while idealists abandon the Democratic party instead of settling for candidates they dislike. Thus, Reagan, Bush (3 terms) and now Trump. You can't fix the system by breaking the system. You can't win without compromise. My frustration was speaking.

@Paul4747 I get what you're saying to a large degree, but that's not entirely correct. As I spent the last couple of months of 2015 and 2016 on social media getting Sanders, quite unknown at the time, especially with my age group and up, out and noticed, I seen and helped a lot of those republicans in their quest to chance parties to vote for him. Which is one of the reasons I'm so angry towards him! There are a lot of republican people, mostly upper age, basically trapped in a generation gap of history and belief that don't like their party. And the fact that there were so many republicans willing to change their party affiliation to vote for a socialist is astounding. They're still voting for something that just isn't there anymore! Voting for an ideology that doesn't exist. I and many others argue that the compromise you're speaking of doesn't exist either. It's not meant to exist is our argument. And the politicians speak of it is window dressing. It's a trap, and quite frankly, I find what you and I are doing now puts us in to it. We will also argue, and quite frankly, you seem to be making the same argument, the god dam system is already broken. It isn't a system for the people, it's a system for the establishment and deep state. Why would you even suggest people stay and vote for people they don't like!?! Trust!?! I can just see me voting for Hillary Clinton with all the history of neoliberalism and lies I know about her. That would essentially make me complicit to her war crimes and tolerant to, and to her lies and corruption against the very thing I was working against during the primary and election cycle. Yes, it's been argued for years. But don't you think that with somewhere in the figures of 45% to now I think 48% of the population registered as independents isn't a sign of change? I think it was at 48% during the last election cycle. depending where you find the numbers. Progressives and green party candidates are having considerable effect on winning positions this primary cycle. It's changing! From the bottom up right now. Because people like me and our pundits aren't giving up. It took 4 decades to get here, it's going to take, hopefully less time to sweep it away. People like Nader, Hedges, Abby Martin, Robert Parry, Jill Stein,etc have all worked within an establishment and media blackout. But with social media we have recently been able to bring them out and start a movement that can speed up the process. I seen it work to a degree I still find astounding just in my republican voters remark above. Hang in there Paul!

@William_Mary
I'm sorry, I don't know where to begin... Ralph Nader. You had to mention him. If you could go back in time and show him how his few thousand votes in Florida would lead to the Bush administration, would he still run? Of course. Because he had no chance in the first place, it was a vanity campaign. A principled stand. But the Republican party leadership has no principles. The only hope for the middle left is coalition politics. Grit your teeth and vote for Hilary, no matter what you read. And I have no clue what "war crimes" you're talking about, by the way. But my point is, the left and center breaking apart is exactly the problem, every election. You can't get a pure and clean candidate to the presidency. Carter made it, and he was a failure. Politics requires cynical and suspicious people who nevertheless have idealism at heart. Those are the effective ones. Those are who we need.