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Does Conservative Politics exist because Conservative Religion frequently doesn’t ruin lives efficiently enough?

Novelty 8 July 3
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Yes they go hand in hand

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I think they are two sides of the same coin. The one spawned the other. The trouble with both is they actually believe that they, and they alone are right. There is no doubt in their minds that any counter view to theirs is wrong. The absence of doubt is dangerous because it closes off the mind to other ideas, and makes a consensus impossible....hence the stalemate you have at present in US politics. Trump is going even further than past presidents in not just overturning Obama’s decisions, but completely eradicating them. I don’t believe Trump is actually a born again christian like Pence and co., but ever the opportunist he spotted a ready made niche market he could muscle in on and that’s when he decided run for office. It has just been like a business takeover, because that is what he does in life, he is not a conviction politician, in fact he isn’t and never has been a politician. Only when a country really comes of age and becomes truly secular can it be completely democratic and represent all citizens equally.

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🙂 Conservative politics doesn't live in a vacuum. Everything in life finds its counterweight. Maybe it began as the far left (not Bernie but, rather on college campuses) and now we see mainstreamers like Maxine Waters pulling a Trump and promoting violence. The burden is no longer just on the backs of the Conservatives.

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Probably.

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Conservative politics in the UK came from a laissez faire approach to business during the industrial revolution. The idea that business was sanctimount, above all and should therefore be free to make its own decisions. Consequently they had no problem with child labour or enslaving entire nations because, afterall profit was king. It moved away from the old ideals of kindly paternalistic approach to poverty and believed in functionalism. The labour movement was a response to that. Conservatism here had no real religious base, in fact the opposite is true. It was the left who generally followed religious doctrine. There has been a lie amongst conservative types here and in the US that profits overall will eventually improve everyone's life. Certainly, in the west most people are fed and housed but the gap between rich and poor is huge. We just do not question some people's 'right' to be rich and this to me is wrong. No human has the right to more of the earth's resources than any other. If you then mix a 'god given right' or a belief that you are more blessed than any other people into the argument then you start to see some of the issues you have with the religious right in USA. Add to this the desire to keep the 'underdog down', divide working people by things like race, culture or religion and then try to maintain control with education, healthcare and diet then you have a toxic mix. My views are, paranoid as it seems, religion is social control at its best.

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