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Is it child abuse to raise a kid in church?

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The thing is the parents who believe in god think that they are doing the right thing to bring them up in the faith. We know that they are misguided, but I don’t think it can be called child abuse if they think they are doing it in the best interest of the child.

Marionville Level 9 July 11, 2018
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Fair comment and I guess it depends where you view it from. The child may well be suffering, regardless of the motives of the parent. You've got me reconsidering if abuse is the right word though.

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Teaching kids things like they could burn in hell is undoubtedly emotional abuse

Salo Level 7 July 11, 2018
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Mental abuse such as hellfire and eternal damnation, plus the possibility of being mollested by a preist. Nah.

TheGreatShadow Level 8 July 11, 2018
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Threatening eternal damnation.. yeah, I think that qualifies.

Sara72712 Level 6 July 11, 2018
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I believe so.

Donotbelieve Level 8 July 11, 2018
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Not if it's been converted into affordable housing.

Bierbasstard Level 8 July 11, 2018
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ba-dum-tssssssssssssssss

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Convincing a child that there is a boogie man living under his bed as a means to control behavior is absolutely mental abuse in my opinion.

HabanoSun Level 4 July 11, 2018
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It was okay for me until I was 12 and the folks became fervent xtian cultists. Coming out of a fairly liberal denomination into that lot of wackos was horrific. Toss in a fondling "evangelist," and there is MY life.

SheBeSecular Level 6 July 11, 2018
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Yeah evangelical is the worst one. That's what I was raised in.

@shebesecular yes, the most fervent are the most dangerous

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That depends, if you have bought an old church and turned it into a home than no, but if you are one of those fanatics, no matter of what religion and beat your child into submission, then yes.

Jolanta Level 8 July 11, 2018
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Not legally, no. The legal definition of child abuse is a pretty high bar.

That doesn't mean some religious environments aren't profoundly harmful to a child's development. Authoritarian religion tends to produce shame and feelings of worthlessness for example. Deconverts here talk about that all the time.

mordant Level 8 July 11, 2018
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If you become so ingrained that your child is like the ones in Jesus Camp, then yes I think it is. In any event, it definitely fills them with guilt, and keeps them behind their peers in science.

mdgme Level 3 July 11, 2018
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Explain why people with visual and audio hallucinations claim it from God or Satan? That concept has to come from church teaching because hallucinations and visions are acceptable in the Christian bible. Think about it. People who do not understand hallucinations have rationalize it to something acceptable to society. If religion was never known to someone who hallucinates, there could only be a better understanding of mental illnesses. People may take science seriously, seek help and take their medicine.

flow Level 6 July 11, 2018
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No. A typical church community is a great space for children. They have fanciful stories and songs. They provide a space for community and support.
That being said there are definitely churches that are abusive and dangerous. But any loving parent not drinking the Kool-aid should easily be able to identify the good from the bad.

MaverickXL Level 3 July 11, 2018
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@maverickxl at the gullible age of 19, I was won over to an extreme church from a common Baptist because it looked MORE beautiful and holy. For 30 years I lived and loved my religion, while indoctrinating 6 children into it. Indoctrination is a virus that spreads like wildfire throughout generations. A brainwashed brain is not always able tell the good from the bad.

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Yep in my opinion we should raise kids without religion and if they form an interist of there own on the subject later let them persue it where supaused to have freewill so why file a kids head with are political and religious belief

astrocreep1994 Level 4 July 12, 2018
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Yes.

irascible Level 8 July 12, 2018
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Yes, but we have to make the difference this early in this insane game of whats real. Eyes wide open versus eyes wide shut is rough at this time. Unfortunately until more people stop hiding and join in we have along way to go to beat the bad case of theology bs.

RoadGlider Level 7 July 11, 2018
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Slippery slope. If you look at religion as a form of mental child abuse, that opens the door to all sorts of arguments. Things like letting your child play video games or sit in front of the TV all day or anything that someone can view as negative for their mental wellbeing could be considered child abuse.

To me, no. It's irresponsible, for sure.. but if I considered it child abuse, I'd have to consider countless other non religious things as child abuse. Coming from a smoker with a child, smoking in front of them (without exposing them to smoke) would be child abuse as they're passively learning the habit. Hence why I try to avoid my daughter witnessing me smoking a cigarette through the window or glass door.

FatherOfNyx Level 6 July 11, 2018
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Social mores are situational and fleeting. This simply means that society's views of right and wrong are constantly changing and evolving

Drsmash253 Level 7 July 11, 2018
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I was raised that way and yes I believe it was. I never sent my kids to church I left that up to them when they flew the coop.

Sheannutt Level 9 July 11, 2018
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Good questions. Absolutely not! Is it child abuse to raise your child as a democrat or republican, American or Canadian, Vegan or omnivore, thin or heavy, city or rural, Buddhist or Taoist, Star Wars or Star Trek? Who cares. I'm agnostic and I raised my two boys to be free thinkers. They both chose a church based on the fun stuff their friends where doing. I was careful to warn them about brain washing but didn't brain wash them with my own nonreligious righteousness either. One is now a mild Christian with progressive beliefs and the other does not like labels of any kind. Thanks for the question.

CreativeTN Level 5 July 11, 2018
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@creativetn I suppose it is all perspective. In my corner of the world, and from my viewpoint, religion is evil, a wolf in sheep's clothing. Even I after i saw through the facade of religion, I thought perhaps the 'good' community would be 'safe' to hang around, until I began to see how very dangerous it was. When children are conditioned to believe that they are going to hell unless they join a certain group, and that they only get one chance and if they sin once they are doomed forever, that snake handling is a sign of being closer to god, that one can just pray instead of taking action, that life decisions can be based on 'good feeling' etc...it becomes the absolute worst thing in the world to partake of...(in my humble opinion, because having faith as a grain of mustard seed literally ruined my life)

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It's called freedom of religion, protected by the 1st amendment of the US constitution.

doug6352 Level 7 July 11, 2018
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@doug6352 from the experience that I lived, and that is all I have to go on...What some call 'freedom of religion' others would call 'child abuse'. When one takes a closer look and looks from all angles, the wolf can be seen clearly under the sheep's clothing. In my corner of the world, religion is the great of all evils, dangerous and deadly..

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I think it would depend on how heavily the was pressured to believe in the church and whether or not it was a cult

Cjb25 Level 2 July 11, 2018
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Only if your an atheist

Renickulous Level 7 July 11, 2018
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I think that if religious people believe that their god gave them free will, they ought to provide their children with the opportunity to develop their minds and understand the world a bit before they choose whether or not they wanna believe in the big g.

AJBravo95 Level 2 July 11, 2018
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