Venus intrigues me. I think it's way ahead of its time, though.

When the singularity comes, we're all gonna be out of jobs. J/K...mostly...

Seen the Zietgeist movie,it's largely conspiracy rubbish.If you want to learn about who creates our money go here,but the truth is stranger than fiction.

[positivemoney.org]

I think there is some value and truth to the Zeitgeist movie. I have it and have shared it with a few people. Not one to force anything onto anyone but its an eye opener and also good lead into debates about the religious part and also 911.

I have never heard of them. Why do you bring them up?

No, I'd rather fill my brain with useful knowledge... lol

I am skeptical of the Venus project, not because of the main aims or goals they espouse, but because the work they have done towards them is actually very superficial when it comes down to it.

They remind me a bit too much of some other research groups which I wouldn't promote by mentioning!

Zeitgiest but found it too alarmiug. some pretty dark stuff there

Oh boy. Have watched the DVDs over and over. Only when trying to shove it down other's throats, did I realize how obsessive I was becoming. So many interesting points and arguments but the further I got into it, the more frustrated I became. It all seems so easy but where does one really start? They say the collective conscience is changing but I seem to be the only nut around these parts who signed up for that cult. And "cult" because when I bring it up to people, they tell me that is what I have clearly joined by getting all wrapped up in the Zeitgeist/Venus Project movement.

I read the sites and I think they're crazy.

Sounds interesting tell us about it and what it is trying to accomplish and how they plan to accomplish these goals.