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Interested in your opinions on the “War on Drugs”. Is it working? Or is it stigmatizing communities?

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Livia 6 Aug 11
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I've never been interested in trying drugs but I also think marijuana should be treated like alcohol when it comes to legality.

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Working exactly as well as Prohibition worked, yessirree, except more gang violence.

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The war on drugs was created as nothing but an excuse to lock up dissenters of the Vietnam War. Now it's just being used to keep for-profit private prisons full.

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The 'War On Drugs' is nothing more than thinly veiled racism.

@memorylikeasieve Just curious, since you're 420 friendly (no bias there) and apparently white, the "war on drugs" targets white people?

@lerlo Are you being deliberately obtuse? Just because I'm white doesn't mean I can't point out that racism against non-white people is a thing, you know.

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Since you just listed "drugs." which of course includes highly addictive things like heroin, it would be a horrible thing to legalize. If you think communities are stigmatized now what do you think would happen if it's "legalized?" Addicts won't be able to get drugs? For those people who think if all drugs are not gone yet then the "war on drugs" must not be working, I would point them to the war on theft. We have metal detectors, sensor tags in clothing, lo-jack for cars and what do you know, people still steal things. We haven't stopped theft but we keep up the "war against theft." The "war on drugs" may stigmatize individuals as addicts, dealers etc. but I haven't heard of a community being "stigmatized." If it is being stigmatized is it because everyone in it uses drugs? Hard to believe.

lerlo Level 8 Aug 12, 2018

That’s a blunt way to think of legalization. There can be licensed legalization. Heroin on prescription happens in some countries where doctors help with tapering and safe needle exchange. Cannabis in the UK is illegal- that decision resulted in synthetic cannabis being legally sold in “head shops”. Spice was the first on the market. It has since been made illegal as it actually kills. Look up Krokadil - synthetics are far more dangerous. I am totally for full legalization, but with common sense and public health in mind. The war on drugs has killed hundreds and thousands in other countries. Read up!

@Livia So if I understand you, if all drugs were legalized no one would produce synthetic drugs that kill people. Makes perfect sense because money is never the root of the drug problem. Thanks for the lesson. Enjoy your drugs. Last I checked, hundreds of thousands of people have not died in the U.S. because we have made drugs illegal but thanks for the warning. You may know that marijuana is legal in some places in the U.S. Guess you really weren't interested in my opinion.
p.s. if all drugs were legal then synthetic drugs would be legal too.

@lerlo , you are very prickly and sarcastic today! If I were not interested in everyone’s opinion why would I engage with you.
In Europe, where I am from, synthetic drugs have been a direct approach to illegalization of selling, buying and possession. Of course new drugs would come onto the market, but to be honest no one is going to be doing Spice if they can grow the real deal in their attic.
Who wants to do Charlie or MDMA that has been cut with bleach powder or talc.? Legalization can control and impose quality standards and dosing, it can impose purchase limits etc. Even new drugs could be tested and if they are like Krokadil and Spice, public health warnings could be sent via TV radio and social media.
All drugs should be government regulated and sold to generate tax. Governments could work with growers directly and provide fair trade for their crops. It would devastate narco trafficking networks.
Right now money is being made by illegal drugs in the same way the Mafia made money during prohibition.
Prohibition creates and stimulates the growth of gangs, criminal network, government corruption and kills hundreds and thousands of people in Latin America.

@Livia Sorry but history shows that everyone wants the next best high. I will have to look to see that there is no longer any drug problem in Europe, that will be surprising

@Livia So I read up...
[emcdda.europa.eu]

@lerlo For a lawyer, you don’t argue very well. I did not say Europe no longer had a drug problem- you are deliberately misquoting me - as if I don’t actually know what said. Scroll up to understand my words. Drugs are illegal in most of Europe. My recommendation is an approach similar to the one in Portugal. [npr.org]

@Livia Got it. You win.

@lerlo LOL yes, always! That’s why I’m single!

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