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I get frustrated to no end when I hear... "Well, that's your truth, not mine." Eyeroll! It is a logical fallacy to state that different truths exist. That's the wrong term. The term is "opinion".

No one can make something true just by having an arbitrary opinion about it, as right or wrong as they may be. You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts.

Hominid 7 Jan 19
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Cognitive dissonance -- the mental conflict that occurs when beliefs or assumptions are contradicted by new information. People want to believe the "facts" that match their world view, I believe.

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Yay for hollywood script writers to clear that up for me!

@Hominid lol

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I get frustrated to no end when I hear people freaking out about how words are used...

Oh no wait, I don't. I don't care how people use words, because I understand that we all have slightly different conceptions of them, and language is fluid anyway--and I have confidence in my ability to discern context and ask for clarification if necessary.

I'm too much of a poet at heart to want to nail words down to one concrete definition. But that's just me. Nobody else has to feel that way.

Understanding how different people use words helps me understand a bit about how they think.

Of course context is everything. When figuring out where a person is coming from, words are less important than being dogmatic about specific meaning - I totally agree. My thing has more to do with using words in a misleading way; a way that for reasons of a hidden agenda, are meant to twist and distort important facts and truths. So - two different scenarios; both applicable in different circumstances.

@Hominid Roger that. I honestly can get a little snotty in my head sometimes about how words are used, but ive trained myself to have an automatic "don't judge" reflex kick in. And I think I can tell pretty reliably when someone is being purposely obfuscatory. When that happens I insist on clarifying personal definitions of terms, a la "to me, 'X' means this, so when I'm trying to say 'abc', the word I use is 'Y'"...not insisting that my interpretation is correct, just showing that words mean different things to different people so you can't always count on your meaning coming across the way you intend. The would-be obfuscators tend to be upset by this tactic--and then I know them as someone I wish to avoid.

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Well, that's fine for you to say, but.... 😎

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Amen! I hate it when I hear people claim they have their own "truth".

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That is what cracks me up about the various brands of religion, each one claims to have the 'truth', the one truth. eyeroll

Like the Joseph Smith & the Mormons. They don't just intimate it, they claim it out loud!

@Hominid Gotta love the Morons.

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My skin crawls a bit, too, when I hear something about "personal truth." It's not so much that one person can't have their own perspective and experiences, and I'm fine with it even if they think of that as "truth," but what I see so often is that people confuse the meanings and will start denying science and reasoned arguments and say, "Well, this is my truth."

You understand exactly what I'm saying.

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Agreed. Also the obvious theists posing as agnostics, spouting manipulative illogical nonsense in such a way that it seems plausible if you just skim it.

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The statement is indeed prosperous. I respond simply by saying something to the affect of, "If I say that Scooby Doo is an actual real, living cartoon dog. It may not be true for you but it is not true for you." This does in no way "make" Scooby Doo real.
There is a big difference between what one wishes to be true and what is factual. So it's true for me and not for you is simply an attempt to shift the burden.
If it is true for you than you must provide empirical evidence for me to believe it also. Just as I must provide evidence that Scooby Doo is real for you to believe me.

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That’s got to be the most frustrating thing to deal with in arguments, when people refuse to take in new knowledge and change their mental schematics accordingly.

I like how you put that... "mental schematics".

One of those things that stuck from my psychology classes. @Hominid

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And opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one 🙂

I like to think I have ascended to a plane of reality that I no longer have or need one....my wife thinks I have become one....

hahahaha @DavidLaDeau

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