Growing up in casual association with the Baptist Church in the Heart of Dixie in the 1950s, I had a different view of "religion" than seems to be prevalent now. My impression of the church then was just a group of people who gathered once a week to see how they could help each other bear the burdens of life. They tried to help people outside the church too.
I was just a kid, so I'm sure I didn't see things as an adult would, but I don't remember any political tone to it; just simple people trying to remind themselves to be good to each other. It even worked sometimes! People were disarmingly neighborly back then. And trustworthy. Ike was president. Life was good. We hand-cranked homemade ice-cream on the back porch Sundays after church.
For the life of me I can't hate religion, or religious people. I have seen first hand that it doesn't have to be about belief, or disbelief, in anything other than being tolerant, and neighborly, and honest (every chance you get ).
I'm not being naive. I'm not turning a blind eye to the creeping corruption that has always plagued all religions. I'm just commenting on the fact that there were other aspects. It was never so monolithic.
It still isn't. A lot of us non-theists are quick to remind each other that we don't need no stinking book to tell us how to behave. And it's true; we don't. But neither did the old folks I grew up around in the middle of the previous century. It's true they carried the book, and sometimes the book carried them, but their morality was in their bones just like ours is. People are just people.
Thinking back on it now I remember our preacher's last name was Hood. I kid you not, we called him Brother Hood. It was a simpler time.
I had a similar experience. It seemed more like a culture. when I was really young I wanted to be a missionary. Not idea it had to do with religion. I still find religious organizations that i refer clients to. Two organizations in my area is Christian Outreach who are many denominations of churches that go to elderly and disabled clients homes to do repairs in the Summer. Family Promise, formerly called Interfaith, is a non-profit organization that provides case management services for homeless families and some single adults and various churches host housing these families/individuals at various churches where volunteers from the church cook for them and they have a place to sleep for 1-2 weeks and then go to the next host church. The Methodist Churches have a community program that pays partially or completely for low income families child care.
I find people in general on a continuum of those who contribute to others and those who need assistance Judging others for their beliefs that differ from mine is unproductive and divisive. Though I do not believe in the dogma and believe my path would be similar even if not exposed to religion. I am now a Social Worker who is grateful for those who help my clients non matter what they beliefs are. I love that my work provides the enjoyment of being with lots of people day to day in their homes, and I don't have to be a missionary and I can be cool with whatever they believe that inspires them.
1950s deep south, everyone could mutually agree to just hate the black folk.
Not really. Your statement is too general.
@WilliamFleming Historical perspective. Emmitt Till was 1955. There were 6 lynchings in the 50's. Do you remember the hullabaloo of blacks attending white schools, 1954.
@Tominator of course I remember all that. You said that everyone in the Deep South hated Blacks, and that just isn’t true. For example, Blacks are people and presumably they didn’t hate themselves. I was growing up in Alabama in the fifties and I don’t remember many expressions of hatred, There was definitely resistance to integration but that is not necessarily hatred. In our household we saw our parents being respectful, and in our rural neighborhood that was the norm.
Instead of concentrating on the “Deep South” it would be more rational to talk about racial discrimination across the country and what progress has been made. There are professional studies that show which places are still today burdened with segregation and racism, and the Deep South is nowhere near the top of the list.
Lynchings are nothing but vigilante justice—certainly not justifiable, but isn’t vigilante justice happening in cities around the country right now? Six cases in ten years in the South make great fodder for South bashers but that’s nothing like the number that occur daily around the country.
Work for harmony and fairness by setting an example—let go the past.
I think people are basically good sadly 9/11 showed whipping up the fear of those who are different gains you power and control. The true believers are being fed a daily diet of fear and the lines between church and state are getting blurry.
My awareness was wondering if Kennedy, a Catholic would be good for the country.
Thank for this post Skado. It’s pleasant to read something positive. For the most part my experience parallels yours. Even today, I run into the old church folks and they greet me warmly.
It really irks me to read news articles that refer to the “evangelical” vote. At our church there were all kinds of political opinions but politics was seldom discussed or even mentioned. Some sleazy politicians do use religion to worm their way into office—maybe that’s where the idea comes from.
In addition to the positive things, I also remember some very emotional appeals to come forward, accept Christ and be saved from eternal damnation. I actually went through the motions in a half-hearted way after a sexy girl talked me into it. After I moved on, some years later I was angry for a long time, but at this point, I acknowledge my own complicity, and I recognize also the positive aspects of the church.
IMO the basic premises of Christianity as presented by traditional churches are erroneous, but the people involved are admirable and beautiful.
i remember when i was a kid the ppl at the church helped put a roof on our house.... the preacher was excruciatingly boring and his sermons way too often ran overtime. i never disliked anybody really... i always made a paper airplane out of the bulletin and threw it in church after the sermon. always disappointed when we didn't eat. it was good times.
i don't hate the religious either... the ones that really believe the shit. most now are not into it just for the money. but do dislike the ones that make money like baaker, tilton (i know a guy that actually sent money to this jackass), bob larson (my mother used to send him $20 every month), etc.
last preacher that i knew of at my former church is 'Pastor W. (William) Frank Brown'.. just google him.
he was the best thing since sliced bread when he first arrived except for several older church members..one of which was my good friend and she was right on.
what i don't like is that people often just give up and 'let god.' that's when believing is not cool.
also was here when the 'compound' was being raided. i know of a couple my mother knew that survived that...they are atheist now.
some people get smarter. some get richer. some don't. some are just idiots.
People are just people. It is when they live thier lives as if their mythological book was factual, that is were it get dangerous.
@hankster the world would be a lot better off if people could practice love instead of hate and resentment and fear. with this I agree. Preachers alos can be very harmful when teaching hate.
There are too many scriptures in th Bible to cover that are harmful here is one put on the lips of Jesus.
Luke 14:26 “If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.