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What is the correct story about 9/11?

Was 9/11 an inside job? Was George Bush and Dick Cheney responsible for the biggest false flag attack on America since The Gulf of Tonkin Incident that started the Vietnam War?

What do you think?

jafbm 5 Oct 14
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As an addendum to all my other posts on here arguing with outright liars, please be wary of people who claim to have an "open mind" on settled evidence. They're wolves in sheeps clothing, trying to seem innocent when in reality they're spreading blatantly false and misleading information. I'm looking at you @snytiger6

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I hope it wasn't, but I am open minded on the subject.

Try reading the Project for a New American Century (it's online), and notice that our military engagements follow the plan pretty closely. It starts by suggesting a Pearl harbor like event to justify going to war in Afghanistan (to build an oil pipeline to the Caspian Sea) and then Iraq (to gain control over oil production). Both of which have been done. It next calls for invading Syria, which was done.

That Cheney made hundreds ofv millions off the wars via Haliburton defintely gives me pause.

Oops. I am adding this part. I also remember a chemical analysis of molten metal found at the site of the fallen towers was found to contain chemical residue from Thermate, which is similar to Thermite, a substance used to produce chemically induced heat to cut through metal structures in controlled demolitions.

To brign it off it woudl require a lot of people, and you would think someone would talk, but when you have disaster where thousands die, how difficult would it be to simply kill those who know too much and have their names added to the lists of dead from the attacks?

The Twin Towers were designed to withstand three jets crashing into them. Computer models have been unable to replicate the collapse of the towers bia the official explanation. Video shown in the movie "loose change" and other places show what looks like demolition charges going off starting the collapse of the towers. Video of the first jet shows the plane had no windows or tail markings liek a passenger plane, but had the body of a cargo plane. There has been no adequate reason why building seven of hte Trade center also collapsed. Video makes it look like a classically planned demolition.

Also, the fires int the towers did not burn hot enough to compromise the steel frame integrity of the towers. It fell short by about 1000 degrees (Fahrenheit) to weaken the steel.

There were a large number of share in American and United Airlines sold "short" right before the "attack", which suggests sombody knew what was going to happen.

We are to believe that the plane that crashed into the Pentagon completely vaporizes so there was no wreckage left at all from the plane, but somehow passports form terrorists were found in tact on the Pentagon lawn at the site of the crash.

I am not saying it was an inside job, but the above is enough to give me pause and leave room for doubt that the "official" explanation is not actually true.

If you add in the the Bush and Bin Laden families have long histories of doing business together, and the Bin Lden family members were flown out oft the U.S. eithout beign questioned and whle no other planes were flying (as pointed out in Michael Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9-11" ) it becomes yet even more suspect.

In the end, I only believe that there is nothing so evil, vile or heinous, that some people will not do it in pursuit of money and/or power. One only has to look at history.

Was it an inside job? I don't really know. I do know that the "offical" explanation defies logic and known physics and just does not make sense to me. There are just too many pieces that don't fit. So, I just keep an open (suspicious) mind on the subject.

I think there has been far too much misinformation put out there for anyone to know for sure what really happened or who was behind it. So, I'll just say "I dont' really know".

lmao wut

A lot of people have "talked" as you put it, and were silenced. Watch this

@jafbm Oh no not a Youtube video that presents blatantly false and debunked information coming only from one side.

I can't believe I'm doing this, because it's pointless to conspiracy theorists, but let's go down the list, shall we?

"The planes were built to withstand 3 jet impacts"

No. The planes were designed to withstand an impact from a 707 ... low on fuel and going under 200 miles per hour. Whoops.

[nytimes.com]

"To brign it off it woudl require a lot of people, and you would think someone would talk, but when you have disaster where thousands die, how difficult would it be to simply kill those who know too much and have their names added to the lists of dead from the attacks?"

Literally thousands of people would have to be in on this supposed coverup. This doesn't even warrant talking about.

"Computer models have been unable to replicate the collapse of the towers bia the official explanation."

Except they literally have.

[gcn.com]

[cbc.ca]

"Video shown in the movie "loose change" and other places show what looks like demolition charges going off starting the collapse of the towers."

First, Loose Change is on version about 27-and-a-half and is pure trash. Also, you wouldn't know a controlled demolition or demolition charges if they slapped you in the goddamn face. This is stupid.

[web.mit.edu]

[pbs.org]

" Video of the first jet shows the plane had no windows or tail markings liek a passenger plane, but had the body of a cargo plane."

Not even conspiracy theorists take this one seriously. The poster is a truther pretending to not know, a lion in sheep's clothing. The worst kind.

"There has been no adequate reason why building seven of hte Trade center also collapsed. Video makes it look like a classically planned demolition."

There is a pretty damn good reason it fell: Massive debris damage and a raging fire throughout many of its floors that couldn't be contained.

[cbc.ca]

[graphics8.nytimes.com]

Moreover, photos of the HEAVILY damaged WTC7 prior to collapse are available just by Googling. Nothing I hate worse than a liar, and the OP is a liar. He has no interest in the truth.

"Also, the fires int the towers did not burn hot enough to compromise the steel frame integrity of the towers. It fell short by about 1000 degrees (Fahrenheit) to weaken the steel."

Except that isn't true either, imagine that.

[counterpunch.org]

"There were a large number of share in American and United Airlines sold "short" right before the "attack", which suggests sombody knew what was going to happen."

THERE IS AN ARTICLE ON FRIGGIN' SNOPES. FIRST GOOGLE RESULT ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT.

[snopes.com]

"We are to believe that the plane that crashed into the Pentagon completely vaporizes so there was no wreckage left at all from the plane, but somehow passports form terrorists were found in tact on the Pentagon lawn at the site of the crash."

It wasn't just passports that survived, tons of stuff did.

[old.post-gazette.com]

[zibili.com]

And this isn't unique to 9/11. Literal living things survived the Columbia space crash

[space.com]

Oh, and there is a TON of recognizable wreckage from the plane at the Pentagon. Again, easily accessible information.

[rense.com]

"I am not saying it was an inside job, but the above is enough to give me pause and leave room for doubt that the "official" explanation is not actually true."

YOU. ARE. FULL. OF. SHIT.

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I have read and watched lots of stuff on this and I believe there is no earthly reason anyone would create this convoluted event just to justify going to war. It just doesn't make any sense. I do believe there was probably prior knowledge of a threat and the failings, if any, were not taking those threats seriously enough.

Resources. Iraq (oil), Afghanistan (pipeline access) and minerals, poppies for heroin.

Considering that they managed to build a pipeline across Afghanistan and that all oil production in Iraq ended up under conrol of British and American oil companies, and the costs were put onto tax payers, although it is incredibly evil, yes it does make sense if profits of oil corporations could be greatly expanded at very little or no expense to themselves.

As I stated above, "In the end, I only believe that there is nothing so evil, vile or heinous, that some people will not do it in pursuit of money and/or power. One only has to look at history."

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Not an inside job.

If you want to talk about a conspiracy, gimme thoughts on the JFK assination...

Watch this documentary. Very good theory about JFK

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The evidence says terrorists flew planes into buildings. Full stop. Don't perpetuate nonsense.

EDIT: If you're reading this, you had to apply so much critical thinking to get here, to be an atheist. Apply it to everything else. Feelings don't make false flags.

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