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Are any of you are getting up in years, (let's say fifty and up) and finding it increasingly difficult to work up any kind of enthusiasm for life? Due to my past conditioning, I never had much of that to begin with, even when I was a lot younger. The only things that have kept me afloat are certain friends, music, books, art, and nature. And yet even these things have begun to pale. I'll be 73 soon, and have had a pretty rough couple of years, health-wise, in spite of all my efforts to take good care. I've had to quit social dancing, and have been pretty much housebound due to residual depression and anxiety issues. I can't bear to be out in public and I don't feel safe enough to drive.

EEEClair 5 Dec 24
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Ugh, it's painful for me to be honest about this: yes. I'm 50+ and while there are many things I am thankful for, the things that I am truly enthusiastic about are dwindling. I used to get stoked about travel, and then I traveled a lot and became weary with it. One vacation seemed to bleed into another, and it started to become more hassle than it was worth. But far more bothersome is that I've lost tolerance for the things that I used to enjoy. Just for example: when I was in my 20s, I used to really look forward to going to the salon and getting a new haircut. These days, I actively dread going to the stylist; I see sitting in a chair for an hour as a big waste of time, even if it accomplishes something very basic and necessary.

The only real thing that I look forward to is spending time with my friends and the ones that I love. That will never grow old, to my mind. A trip to the art gallery or a little boutique, coffee in the 'hood ... all of these quiet activities have deep meaning to me. I remember conversations and connections more than I do the "big" events. I think that perhaps this is what it means to appreciate the simple things in life. How can that possibly be bad?

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I think it's probably much harder for women than men. Even though we know better intellectually, society traditionally reinforces the fallacy that a woman's value is synonymous with her sexual appeal. We have been in "competition" with one another for our whole lives, and if we reach our silver years mate-less, there is a deep-down sense of failure, even if our lives are happy enough without a man. In a lot of ways, it's worse than empty nest syndrome.

Deb57 Level 8 Dec 25, 2018

I agree with what you've stated, though I should add that my third husband committed suicide 8 years ago. Since then, haven't had the desire for another romantic relationship. I've been pretty counter-cultural for most of my life, so societal dictates don't count for much, either. Frankly, I don't care what people think, but I admit to being my own worst critic, which is where I run into trouble. I tend to make the mistake of comparing myself with others too often. This only adds to the existential angst I've been feeling so strongly. Contemporary Zen has been helpful to a degree when I bother to try and implement what I've learned about practicing presence and letting go of resistance. But joy still escapes me. Thank you for your reply.

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Have you told your physician all of this?
They might be able to help.
I hope it gets better.

I appreciate your concern. I've got to tell you that convention medicine just isn't adequate for the kind of help I need. I don't do pharmaceuticals, for one thing, and that's all my physician would recommend. I've been getting more help from my favorite contemporary Zen teachers when I remember to try and practice what I've learned from them. Sometimes I get impatient and rather than fully accept my current situation, I become unhappy because things aren't they way they used to be.
As you can imagine, this is not especially helpful.
Best wishes in the new year.

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Ohferpetessake! 70 1/2, and KNOW this is, by far, the very best time of my life...okay, I could do without the aches & pains, but otherwise Unfreakingbelievably Wonderful!

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