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If we keep thinking about the material, from where it came?,,, the mind will stand astounded,
***Can you imagine the universe without human? It is really like a theater without viewers,Do you see with me that the existence of human came after the existence of the universe billions of years?,As if the universe exists deliberately for you, for me, and for all humanity,The question of faith is not a game,The issue of faith, is an issue that you have to live, and taste it, in order to know its essence,It is just like hunger, and thirst. If you tell to people that you are hungry, it is absurd that a professor or doctor comes, and says, I will prove to you that you are full,I do not believe, i do not think, that my fate after death, and the fate of criminals, will be the same,And I do not believe, that I do bad deeds, and someone else, comes to bear everything,I want to tell you something important,Every explosion happens, there will inevitably be a disaster, I think you agree with me,except the (big bang) ... since its occurrence, it expands to a great accuracy, and wonderful organization,I have tried repeatedly, to convince myself that God does not exist .. but whenever I turn my face, to something .. I find his presence, and feel his existence through everything,If God came to you, and said to you, I am God, you will not believe it,God does not need a scientific theory to prove his existence,Everything proves the existence of God .. even the hymen of a woman,If you are sincere in the search for God, he will take your hand until you are satisfied,I know that my words may bother you .. but believe me, I love and respect everyone ... I want you only to taste something .... Thank you for your visit

belfo 6 Jan 17
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Ohferpetessake...and try punctuation!

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I wouldn't be so quick to anthropomorphise god. The furthest I would go there is that everything might have its own spirit, in the sense of a consciousness. The idea that the universe is created just for us could be egotistical wishful thinking. The notion that there is a justice after death could be just wishful thinking too. I think it would be more helpful if we focussed on organising justice in this world.

What is the value of justice in this world? If there is no justice in the other world

@belfodil The value lies in the possibility that there is no other world.It's a matter of faith so we have different priorities.

@brentan If I told you, for example,((( you and the criminals, are the same)))) ... just for example .. what will be your answer, my esteemed sir .. I want a spontaneous and objective answer

@belfodil I suspect you equate unbelievers with criminals, I'm not certain. Will you tell me is that point you wish to make?

@brentan No, that is not what I mean ... For example, let me say this small child, and the criminals are the same .. What will be your answer?

@belfodil What small child? I don't understand at all.

I just read English is not your first language so no problem

@brentan These are just examples, I know very well that you and a criminal are not the same.... I want to tell you, If you were sure there was a big difference between the criminals and the righteous, .... tell me how you believe, that fate after death will be the same.

@belfodil To put it bluntly, I think criminals and non-criminals are different types of people and the justice system punishes criminals for what they do if they catch them. If they are never caught, I believe nothing happens to them after death because I believe there is no afterlife for anyone. This is probably a good thing because the treatment of criminals in the afterlife appears to be unbelievably cruel, if you believe 'holy' books.

@brentan .....appears to be unbelievably cruel... Why do not we say unbelievably justice .. Do you think that the student who worked hard, throughout the year, will be satisfied If it is treated exactly like a bad student (In the test mark),The real dilemma will be greater if we assume that there is no god, Because it will not be any value to the life we ​​live .... Are we just illusions!!!?

@belfodil I think the issue is that life is not fair. That's the harsh truth of it. I think society should work hard at placing value in life as we know it but many people prioritise a life that they believe is there after death but may very well not be. It used to be expressed in the saying 'a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'. Let's work with the 'bird' we have.

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Ohferpetessake...and try punctuation!

thank you

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Why are you even bothering to post this word salad around here?
You come across as incredibly confused.
Seek professional help.

His profile does state he is NNES, its probably a case of running it through google translate. I tried it in France and got lots of incredulous looks. (I understand French fairly well but I'm too shy to speak it!)

Then he needs a better translating program.
Besides, his profile also says that he's agnostic, atheist, etc.
I already question his credibility.

@Amisja I'm not shy of it ... I can learn every day a letter or two

I asked for help .... but no one wants to help

@belfodil Help with what exactly?

@belfodil Hi well, maybe start with a more simplistic topic. I am learning Putonghua but only learning very simple words and phrases. I wouldn't head off into some scientific theory when I have just about got to the point where I can say, 'Nǐ hǎo, nǐ hǎo ma?' or 'shee' for yes.

@Amisja If you and @belfodil are going to continue this discussion, please consider taking it private. This way, I don't continue to get notifications of comments to my response to his post.

@KKGator I was skeptical before .. but now i am reassured, this world has one creator ....

@belfodil No, it does not. That's utter nonsense. There are no gods. Never have been any.

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Science does not and never does make claim to any such thing as final truth. Every conclusion reached is viewed as replaceable as new discoveries are made. Science is a METHOD OF TRYING TO DISCOVER OURSELVES AND OUR WORLD, and never claims having discovered final truth. Niels Bohr, Nobel prize winning physicist, remarked that there are two kinds of truth: trivial truths, the opposite of which are clearly false, and Great Truths, the opposite of which are also true. And that characterization is still operative among those who do science. Religion and religious beliefs fall into the latter category. Like other opinions, and yes faith in some religious belief is an opinion, religious beliefs can be neither proven nor disproven. The rub comes in when one holding such beliefs attempts to convince others to share his/her beliefs. It is the obligation of the person wanting to convince others, to provide supporting evidence and valid reasoning; unfortunately, that is not possible. Science and religion are decidedly different approaches to knowing and understanding ourselves and the universe, so trying to conflate them is a huge mistake. Scientists are trying neither to prove the existence of god or disproved the existence of god; those are efforts that do not fall into the province of science, and one reason it does not is that neither can be proven. The principal difference between fact and opinion is that factual matters can be proven true or false, while opinions or beliefs cannot be. In conclusion, I would observe that your post represents yet another failed effort to convince anyone to accept your views, expecially atheists and agnostics. Nice try but no cigar, my friend.

thank you arbusto, I really did not want cigar

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If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one to hear. Sorry it still makes a sound.

If there is still a sound, do you think it is asking for help?

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Oh dear...

This beautiful word is not for me. Is this true?

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