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Richard Feynman is supposed to have said that “Philosophy of science is about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds.”
Do you agree?

Matias 8 Feb 13
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I once had a professor tell me "intellectual history is a waste of time". I think both statements are myopic.

Orbit Level 7 Feb 13, 2019
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Yes

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Either he meant it or was just goofing around, he was one of a kind character. Surprisingly to me anyway, I don't think he gets all the credit he truly deserves.

@TheAstroChuck He was a unique funny dude, so what he meant probably took it to his grave

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I don’t see how that attitude could be helpful. I wonder about the context in which it was said.

skado Level 9 Feb 13, 2019
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Ummm, ornithology gets species, such as condors, declared endangered, which is a Huge benefit to the condors....

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I can say that Scientists should use Philosophy of science to increase the quality of works.
poor statistics, questionable methods, wrong reporting. No report of failures etc. All this goes against the method.
BUT these works are done and published anyway. And we see things like reproducibility crisis, misuse of p-value, articles based on too few samples, wrong citation (reinterpreting the interpretation of a citation of an article), etc.
The answer is it should be used but it is not. It should be the base to perform science, but most of times it is like brushing teeth, there is an efficient and correct way. But in general people do what they are told to do and never think about it.

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In the day to day working life of scientists perhaps. But to the ordinary person in the street, the basic philosophy of science, without getting too deep into the detail, is priceless! Because it is nearly the same thing as learning to think, especially understanding the idea that it is good to recognize you can be in error, and being able to change is wisdom.

@TheAstroChuck Yes I know that Feynman was refering to scientists, please read my first sentence. And yes the phiosophy of science may be taught in schools, but since I see little evidence that it is understood, I can only assume that it is very badly taught, probably by teachers who are anti-science or who do not understand it themselves. I do however completely agree with you that the divorce between science and philosophy is a wholly good thing and that apart from a few specialist areas such as ethics science entirely replaces philosophy, and that even in places like ethics, philosophy should take second place. Indeed I think that one of the best things about science is that it is anti-cultural as a whole.

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