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Charlene 9 Feb 16
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Socialism means placing more faith, hope, and more of the power in the state, and that depends on the state. The trouble is that, in many nations placing faith in the state means placing your faith in an institution far more cruel, ruthless and exploitive than the worst of capitalist corporations.. Socialism only works well in states which are well educated and highly democratic, where people have real control over the state in which they invest their hopes and wealth.

The more education and democracy you have the more socialism you can enjoy, but both the democracy and the education have to be maintained. Especially since there is another form of economics, in which the political and economic establishments are one and the same, and it is called feudalism, into which socialism automatic degenerates in counties which have weak democracies.

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Yeah, posted this yesterday in the same group.

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View from a trumper supporter or a republican.

Both perhaps?

@Charlene True

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Right wingers tend to not differentiate between socialism, communism and totalitarianism. So, differentiating between different kinds of socialism is usually beyond them.

@Byrdsfan Uneducated in world politics, but I have even found that here on Agnostics. Someone told me that our NHS was a communist system of healthcare!

@Marionville I'd have corrected them and told then that the capitalist totalitarian system is fascism. Htiler pulled a bait and switch, as many politicians do.

They will try to point out that Hitler got elected chancellor on the "Socialist" ticket, but they seem to be ignorant that after gaining power he turned and purged the Socialists out of what became the Nazi (Fascist) government. You had to be a Nazi, not a socialist in Hitler's Europe in order to survive.

@snytiger6 you can’t make people who don’t want to listen, understand anything,

@Marionville True. However, when I bring it up once, they (usually) avoid the subject in future conversations. They may not want to learn, but they also (most often) don't want to appear ignorant (or stupid) either.

@snytiger6 They just don’t like that the facts interfere with their beliefs...now where have I heard of that phenomenon before?

@Marionville It most likely has to either be the religious or republicans... they have that in common.

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Oh dear

Do you have these problems in the UK?

@davknight No, not that kind of problem. We do have difficulty at present working out what either of the two main parties Conservative and Labour actually think about anything....they both seem to be at war with their own membership. I think most of the electorate would understand the difference between socialism, communism and totalitarianism. We have had many Socialist (Labour) governments, but are still a capitalist democracy.

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