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"The progress of humanity has replaced belief in divine providence. But this faith in humanity makes sense only if it continues ways of thinking that have been inherited from monotheism."

"Most atheists today are liberals, who believe the species is slowly making its way towards a better world; but modern liberalism is a late flower of Jewish and Christian religion, and in the past most atheists have not been liberals"

(From: John Gray: "Seven Types of Atheism" )

Matias 8 Feb 27
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The statement makes a lot of sense! I, on the other hand, have always been fiscally conservative, and socially liberal, so I'm not sure upon which fence people view me sitting, but I've never been a christian conservative, and when I joined the republican part when I was a wee lass, it was not as tight-assed religious as it has become. Nor was it the seemingly money-grabbing rich white man club as it appears to be. My daughter was quite proud of herself for being the only atheist in the high school's republican club. I like to think she helped some of her fellow students into thinking about their social stand!

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I'm an atheist, and I'm not a liberal.
I also don't believe that the species is making its way toward a better world.
If anything, we're regressing, and destroying our world.

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That idea of an objective God who created the world and is out there somewhere standing by, watching, caring, interacting—in other words, exercising divine providence—that idea doesn’t appeal to me. Maybe that idea has been replaced with a faith in humanity in some quarters, but the idea is still rampant.

Rather than just faith in humanity, I think faith in nature, of which humanity is a part, makes more sense. By nature I mean ultimate reality. In that model there is not some separate god “out there”. Rather there is the subjective Us. In a certain sense, “We” are God.

For sure let’s continue with our “progress”. Develop a better arrowhead, faster transportation, efficient clean energy, space travel, etc. That kind of know-how is valuable for survival of the human organism, but progress toward what? If progress is our mantra we darned well better figure out what we are supposed to be progressing toward.

The nuts and bolts are good and necessary, but IMO the main progress needed is courage to look directly at the significance of reality with deep appreciation and to realize our truly staggering value. The only progress truly needed is to take off our blinders. We are in heaven everywhere at all times.

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